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Offline Jamolay

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« on: August 31, 2021, 05:18:51 pm »
Has anyone tried this software? Is it worth it?

It is on sale with some other bundled stuff today.

I am probably not ready, by a long way, for it, but am curious, and if it is good, maybe someone else might be interested.

https://songsurgeon.com/guitar1/?not_load_main_video=true&anchor=order_now


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Re: Song Surgeon
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2021, 05:34:31 pm »
Not sure on this one...

Riffstation is what a lot of folks use. From what I can tell it does a lot of the same things as your link shows. Even better, they claim it is free. I downloaded it, giving up a bogus email address, so they could not sell me. Point is you can likely try this one for free!

https://sharewareonsale.com/s/free-riffstation-pro-100-discount

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Re: Song Surgeon
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2021, 06:21:43 pm »
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We know of no other audio slowdowner software that provides these three features in one program. And of course, that’s just the beginning.

Well Riffstation does all that and has done for years, so they aint looking very far or bigging up their product. Riffstation - slow tempo, change key, use capo or choose full or power chords - has a lot going on.

Like LBro this is new to me but very much like Riffstation, which is not always accurate, especially for "busy" songs. But Transcribe hits the same issues on muddy tracks but will suggest a number of chord possibilities. Not sure how much they are asking for it and would have to investigate further. But think I'll stick with Riffstation for now.

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Re: Song Surgeon
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2021, 02:51:58 pm »
How about Reaper? Can it do some of these things?


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Re: Song Surgeon
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2021, 07:05:55 pm »
Reaper is a Digital Audio Workstation ie mixing/mastering studio program, as far as I know there is no functionality for tone or chord identification that I have encountered but maybe I missed something. Problem with all the progs like Riffstation they tend to identify based on standard tuning, so can only used as a guide. For example The Black Crowes played a lot in open C and you could drop something like Remedy into a program and it would not id the original chords as used on the recording but it may give you something close that is adaptable for standard tuning or at least a bit of a guide to steer you in the right direction.

So I tend to use Riffstation, Transcribe and listen to the OT but a video of the guitarist also pays dividends.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Song Surgeon
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2021, 01:10:40 am »
Hmmm, I wonder if that Song Surgeon isn’t too bad a deal. Seems pretty comprehensive and independent reviews are pretty good.

I looked at the “free” riffstation offer and it looks pretty scammy. Paid is $35, so are the song surgeon additional features worth $50 more?

There are a million partial options it seems, like the spark amplifier, which does a lot, audacity, riffstation, and on and on. How does one choose? Which would be easy for beginners yet would let me grow into it?


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Re: Song Surgeon
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2021, 09:29:48 pm »
I have both Riffstation Pro (mac) and Song Surgeon

Riffstation pro is not longer available, sadly.

I find both of them quite useful.  They keep me lazy and such.  As in I should develop my ear to work out the chords in a song, but alas there's software that does it for me. :-)

What I like about song surgeon is you can add extra space in front of the song, and a 4 beat click track.  What I found frustrating with Riffstation is no ability to delay the start of the song.  Why is this a problem? Well, when I want to play along to a song, by the time I click the play button and get my hands back to the guitar, the song is already under way.

With Song Surgeon that problem is fixed.  The 4 beat click track sort of works as well but the main song I've done that on it's out by a half a beat or so.

Both applications have their flaws with recognizing the correct chords.  If you are an absolute beginner this may throw you.  Because I've been playing for a few years and I have some understanding of what should happen in a song according to music theory, when the chord shown is not correct, I can often work it out myself.

Overall I'm thrilled with these applications, they've helped me out in learning many songs and in playing along to the songs.  The down side, as I've said earlier, is they don't encourage one to develop their ear.

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Re: Song Surgeon
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2021, 09:32:04 pm »
Two features I use a lot in both riffstation and song surgeon is changing the tempo and changing the pitch.  That way I can play along to the song as I want to play it, not at the original temp or pitch.

It's also cool in that you can change the tempo in small increments which is much better than youtube where you can only easily change in large increments.

 

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