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Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« on: April 07, 2021, 11:31:20 pm »
Well hello peeps, its another Madman's Diary but no video today. But ....

So the plan for today's practice was to start work on I guess 4 songs ! The next Madman's Diary is close but Open Mic distractions has pushed it back a bit. Then we go and agree on OM2 May 15 !! Shoot, choose new song and get a wriggle on. Then Justin pops up, Hi Justin here, why don't we do a Live Stream the week before. Jeepers, why did I commit, ok add songs 3 & 4 for global embarrassment mode, its only a month away. Simples.

So sat down for my nightly practice, brought up the 4 songs ready to work on. Looked at the acoustics, looked at the new yet to be abused LP Studio and thought wadda fuuda, grabbed the Gibson and dropped a Southern Rock 'Skynyrd style Mixolydian backing track into Reaper. Powered up the Mustang, put the cans on and went for it.

Its rough its raw and there's some places I lost my place in the world on Mixo madness and then came back.

 https://soundcloud.com/tobyjenner/smokey-and-the-mixo-kid

Not much prod wise. Doubled the BT and panned 75% L & R. Original sound from the Mustang was ok but I am never happy when it gets to Reaper, so whacked in Waves GTR Tool Rack and found a nice crunchy setting but decided to double and add a cleanish FX, then panned the crunchy n clean 20% L and R. Added some Scheps Omni Channel and found a nice preset that suited my gtrs. Messed with the levels for a reasonable balance, always difficult coz in the background someone * is roasting the lead and make me look like I am playing with me mittens on !!!!! So I could have pretended that was me as well but Nooo !

* sounding just like Gary, Allen, Steve or Ed and not me !!
 
So getting some where !! And sound OKish, so lets get on down to Abbey Road and slap some AR Chambers on the Master. Really liked Bernard Butler Graveyard Vocals for the guitars but decided to settle on Richard Chycki Echo Solo Gtr. Hit render and what you don't see is what you get.

So there you go its 5 past Grimbergen or 0015 in normal clock speak and its been a barking experience as always and pleased to share.

Wee N.B. for Mr Play Songs Play Songs Plays Yada Yada 2U - Now you know what that vi bvii i does to me!

Cheers peeps, sorry no vid but that the Madman's Diary pour Avril. Enjoy and if yeh don't like just say !




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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2021, 12:36:49 am »
Flat 7 ? ? ?

Is Flat 7 the address of the city apartment that Mr & Mrs Mad occupy when visiting town?

Is Flat 7 a choice bourbon to enjoy on the rocks in a crystal tumbler?

Is Flat 7 a raunchy rock note to squeeze and shake until the boogie runs wild?

Cool as cats!

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2021, 01:50:43 am »
I love it! Awesome rocky backing track and I love the winding, looping path you've cut through it.

I wound that one up on the external speaker and blasted it through the house. Sweeeet!!  8)
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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 01:52:37 am »
That was real tasty Toby, you could tell it wasn't a regular major or minor pent scale and there was something intriguing about it. It must have been this flat 7, brilliant! Man you should publish more of these and I am especially keen to hear you play some more of those good old modes in :) all the best.

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2021, 05:02:00 am »
Smokey you an' that mad man are SMOKIN'

Richard now look wot you done ...
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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2021, 06:17:34 am »
Me likey! Trippy and really groovy man. It has some sparkle and zing. Dug it! Interesting guitar tones. Very nice jammage. :)

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2021, 06:47:07 am »
Now that's what I was hoping for Toby, sounded great. Lovely tone, melodic, rocking the house down Mad Mixo Man.

Production wise ... seems like we have a toolbox brimming with a lot of the similar tools, at least until you brought out the Abbey Road kit.

The overall mix sounded pretty much right down the middle to me, though listening on my audio-buds rather than home studio gear.

You mentioned doubling and panning the BT. Did you do anything to the double to make it sound different to the other?

Loved the diary entry and the image.

Keep the songs, jams, and chats coming.

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2021, 07:57:46 am »
Nice one, I listened whilst having my morning coffee. Very enjoyable

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2021, 08:23:30 am »
QUICK THANKS TO STITCH
When I started looking at modes and Mixolydian in particular, Stitch suggested some Allman Brothers BTs on Youtube which I have jammed over but not recorded. That in turn took me down the Southern Rock path and as most know I love me some Skynyrd. My Mustang has the facility to load and play BT, so I have been mainly firing up the band and impro over the top. I currently have around 5 SR tracks in the Key of A (as Justin teaches Blues Lead in that key). So that set up is good for a jam but the tracks are sometimes sticky, so recording the whole caboodle doesn't stack (and the level are static). So the BT was dumped into Reaper and off we popped.

So cheers Stitch, you and Close have a lot to answer for ! 8) 


@Close = Richard thanks you. I know I started this mode journey a while before you launched that wonderful Modal thread ( https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=48972.0;topicseen for anyone whose missed it ) but the information has really help me move forward in this area. Its great to put the theory into practice. Anyway, just down the hall from Flat 7 is Flat 3 where someone called Dorian lives and I think I'll go knocking on his door next.  8)

@Boobook - Thank you Anna. If it was good enough for you to crank the volume via speakers not cans, job done. Glad you liked it and thanks for the SC comment.  8)

@Adrian - Great feedback big thanks. Yeah there is something about the modes beyond major and minor which sound so different and at times exotic which is what drew me to this path. And the fact that ACDC play a lot of mixo had little to do with it !  8)

@Maggie - Thank you my dear. That short sentence spoke volumes to me. The cats out of  the bag !  8)

@Clint - thanks man, appreciate that especially as you seem to be the impro man these days. Did not do much on the LP just Neck pup and tone on max, as it was the first real ride. I think doubling with two different FX on the same piece made that tone your hearing. All experimental. But yep big thanks.  8)

@David - Tripple M is just the start, other avenues to pursue but glad you liked it. I probably do this a couple of times a week but just don't record while I've been focusing on the singing and playing.

As to the prod. Yes I slapped Abbey Road Chambers on the Master track, as I wanted a consistent verb effect across the final mix. Verbing individual tracks sometimes leads to the effect being lost.
When I had the BT and my 2 tracks (clean n crunchy) straight down the middle, the lead on the BT was cutting through. Now what I should have done and normally do was EQ the whole lot to tidy it up but it was getting late. So yep I doubled the BT and pushed it way wide, then slight panned my tracks 20%. Ok so there was a little experimenting and adjustments to get the final balance but it seemed to get the separation I was after quickly. I'd probably spend a couple of hours just mixing normally but hey ho.

And yes the Diary had to be done even without video and the studio logo is here to stay. At the moment the background colour is to remind me Cherry is at the Doctors but will feature in this particular story, once she's back home.
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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2021, 09:16:42 am »
IMO the mix is good. Lead part is most enjoyable through the mix. Cool stuff !

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2021, 10:03:27 am »
Very nice track! I loved the lead guitar jam, very well put together!

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2021, 10:32:17 am »
@Billy and Byron - thanks for the comments guys, glad you liked it. Need to record more of this stuff but as I said earlier in the post, the last 4 months has been focused on singing and playing, now I can do the multi-tasking gig. And with such a small repertoire of songs I can sing and play, I am looking to add to the potential set list. But yes more of this to come.

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2021, 10:56:20 am »
@Billy and Byron - thanks for the comments guys, glad you liked it. Need to record more of this stuff but as I said earlier in the post, the last 4 months has been focused on singing and playing, now I can do the multi-tasking gig. And with such a small repertoire of songs I can sing and play, I am looking to add to the potential set list. But yes more of this to come.

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in that case looking forward to more from you!! :d

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2021, 12:07:23 pm »
This guitar-learning business is indeed a long and winding road...
One day I hope to follow the dust trail of a madman on a hog  8)
Have some post-mixo-pre-open mic vibrations!

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2021, 02:58:48 pm »
This guitar-learning business is indeed a long and winding road...
One day I hope to follow the dust trail of a madman on a hog  8)
Have some post-mixo-pre-open mic vibrations!

Brian oh the irony of your comment, which I truly appreciate. There's me sitting here looking at you and some of our friends, playing fingerstyle thinking man oh I wish I could do that, one day maybe. So lets go down that road side by side. I'll be on the Hog in the dirt n grit of the hardshoulder flies in me teeth and you can amble along besides me, windows down and a call warm breeze. We'll shoot past a couple of service stations, chew some fat then swap lanes for a few more miles. Sound like a plan ?

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2021, 03:06:48 pm »
Well done Toby. Focusing on the flat 7 really brought out the Mixolydian sound.
Gotta Love Souther Rock  :)
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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2021, 03:53:35 pm »
That is awesome. Really well-done man. I love it when I hear a song like this and get super pumped to get back to practicing in the hopes that one day I can do the same!

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2021, 04:04:34 pm »
Toby, hello buddy! It was great work, great sound and performance,
I really, really liked it. Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2021, 04:08:27 pm »
That is awesome. Really well-done man. I love it when I hear a song like this and get super pumped to get back to practicing in the hopes that one day I can do the same!

Trevor if I can inspire some to make progress with my mediocre skills I am more than happy. You will get there with your attitude and approach for sure. Thanks for the kind words, now go practice there's an OM looming !!  8)
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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2021, 04:11:44 pm »
Toby, hello buddy! It was great work, great sound and performance,
I really, really liked it. Thanks for sharing!

Mike

Hey MSP so good to see you drop by man. As you can see, back to doing some improing after focusing on the singing and playing, and dipping my toes in the world of modes. Its all still a bit wooden in my opinion but its creating a more solid platform than previous efforts. And if you really really liked it, that's double cool with the madman.

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2021, 04:52:52 pm »
Sound like a plan?
Virtually the opening lines of the latest song I'm working on  ;D
I'm good to go...

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2021, 05:08:48 pm »
Virtually the opening lines of the latest song I'm working on  ;D
I'm good to go...

When do we leave .................

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2021, 06:40:15 pm »
Well done Toby. Focusing on the flat 7 really brought out the Mixolydian sound.
Gotta Love Souther Rock  :)
Glad I could help you on your journey.

Hey Stitch missed this for some reason. Anyway hope you liked it, as you say can't beat some good old Southern Rock. The Allman Brothers stuff is stacked up in the Backing Tracks folder and jammed over a few. So maybe a future recording will emerge but yep having some fun and as ever appreciate your help and feedback.

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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2021, 10:07:34 pm »
That was terrific Toby, although I have to confess that flat 7 mixolydian sounds like Klingon to me. Really enjoyed it and you certainly captured the Southern Rock vibe my friend. 
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Re: Smokey and The Mixo Kid
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2021, 07:22:13 am »
That was terrific Toby, although I have to confess that flat 7 mixolydian sounds like Klingon to me. Really enjoyed it and you certainly captured the Southern Rock vibe my friend.

Thank you for you kind words Gordon. And yes I agree when I first encountered the mode names it all felt a bit sci-fi and the theory side seemed out of this world as well. But its really nice to start applying that into making different sounds and vibes. Smokey needed breaking in and some good old rock Southern style seemed the  way go and we aint talking Watford !

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