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Offline willsie01

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« on: October 10, 2020, 12:19:34 pm »
If you wanted to express a feeling of frustration at a decision you felt was undemocratic what 2 songs would you do?

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Re: Protest
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2020, 04:48:41 pm »
I'll have to think about that some more, but two that jumped to mind are:

  • If I Had A Hammer (Peter, Paul And Mary)
  • Iron Sky (Paolo Nutini)

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Re: Protest
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2020, 05:14:49 pm »
If you’re not looking to be polite about it:

Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name Of

.... I think people would get how you feel about the decision then :)

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Re: Protest
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2020, 05:21:32 pm »
In a 'no politics' forum I'm wondering where you're coming from / taking this willsie.
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Re: Protest
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2020, 06:09:38 pm »
In a 'no politics' forum I'm wondering where you're coming from / taking this willsie.
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If it was political I would have mentioned ------- straight away  :) Just kidding.

Apolitical (like me) situation totally removed from this forum. And all will be done in a friendly manner within a social group I am part of. I am known for my meek and mild nature!

So far I've settled on Times They Are A-Changing & Get Up, Stand Up.

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Re: Protest
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2020, 06:13:55 pm »
If you’re not looking to be polite about it:

Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name Of

.... I think people would get how you feel about the decision then :)

That's one hell of a protest song worthy of a big cause. For my need I only need a very gentle protest.
And I'd really struggle getting on top of playing it by Wednesday!
Plus, they will be played in a church based group. Some of the lyrics wouldn't go down too well!

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Re: Protest
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2020, 06:18:18 pm »
I'll have to think about that some more, but two that jumped to mind are:

  • If I Had A Hammer (Peter, Paul And Mary)
  • Iron Sky (Paolo Nutini)

Yes, good choices.

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Re: Protest
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2020, 06:52:20 pm »
And I'd really struggle getting on top of playing it by Wednesday! Plus, they will be played in a church based group.

Given that, Pete Seeger's We Shall Overcome or Patti Smith's People Have The Power might be worthy of consideration.

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Re: Protest
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2020, 07:48:19 pm »
I just worked out a chord progression for Iron Sky, if you're interested.

Capo on IV, with the following shapes (and optional variations to throw in):
  • Am7  (throw in A7sus2 and/or A7sus4 as variation during this chord)
  • G
  • F∆7  (throw in F∆#11 as variation during this chord). You could leave out the bass note on these if you have trouble with the thumb-over thing. The bass guitar will pick up the bass note, anyway.
  • D7sus2  (throw in as D7sus4 variation during this chord)
Chord diagrams/shapes shown relative to the capo on IV:





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Re: Protest
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2020, 07:06:16 am »
  • F∆7  (throw in F∆#11 as variation during this chord). Y
Don't know the song, JWC, but am intrigued by the triangle ... haven't seen that before in the naming of a chord.  A quick google suggests it might be F sharp 7?  So having tried to answer my own question, please confirm or correct. Thanks

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Re: Protest
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2020, 08:06:36 am »
Don't know the song, JWC, but am intrigued by the triangle ... haven't seen that before in the naming of a chord.  A quick google suggests it might be F sharp 7?  So having tried to answer my own question, please confirm or correct. Thanks

Very interesting!
I recognised it as the Greek letter delta, used as a math symbol, and also thought it was used for an Fmaj7 by JWC.
I did an internet search and came up with the info the symbol delta is used in music to indicate a major chord, particularly in jazz. Hope JWC or others can clarify. I think it looks like a very useful abbreviation. Any way of shortening the length of naming a complex chord is good news. Now, there must be a way to get Greek letters as symbols on my keyboard? iPhone & laptop.

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Re: Protest
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2020, 08:19:09 am »
I just worked out a chord progression for Iron Sky, if you're interested.

Capo on IV, with the following shapes (and optional variations to throw in):
  • Am7  (throw in A7sus2 and/or A7sus4 as variation during this chord)
  • G
  • F∆7  (throw in F∆#11 as variation during this chord). You could leave out the bass note on these if you have trouble with the thumb-over thing. The bass guitar will pick up the bass note, anyway.
  • D7sus2  (throw in as D7sus4 variation during this chord)
Chord diagrams/shapes shown relative to the capo on IV:






JWC, thanks. Love the use of the Greek letter. Something I will for sure adopt!
I wasn’t familiar with the song but will give it a go! ☺️

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Re: Protest
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2020, 10:55:46 am »
Muse - Uprising
and we must not forget the beautıful Born in U.S.A. I always see Bruce Springsteen a true citizen of US and it must be a quite talent to love your country but still be able to write a song the bitter side of it with such nice lyrics...For me that song is a symbol of an objective person who can criticise the things he love
now I've got to look for
Sanctuary from the law

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Re: Protest
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2020, 11:10:07 am »
Imagine.
John Lennon wrote the most beautiful and poignant protest song that is also about hope and humanity.
Regards,
Robert

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Re: Protest
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2020, 07:18:07 pm »
The triangle/delta means major. I think the idea behind it is that it represents the three notes of a major triad. I don't typically use it for a "normal" major chord (e.g., I'd write E major as "E"), but if there are any sevenths or extensions I'll often use the triangle, like F∆7 for Fmaj7).

While I tend to include the 7 when noting a chord like F∆7,  you might run across other music that just uses F∆. That usually means "F major seventh" instead of just "F major", but I think the practice varies a bit from person to person.

On my computer, I use the "character map" utility to pull in stuff like delta and musical symbols (e.g., ∆, ♭, ♮, ♯, etc.). I'm running Linux, but Windows also has a "character map" application, and Mac has a character palette you should be able to bring up with Cmd + Option + T. Not sure about Android or iOS, though.
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Re: Protest
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2020, 08:17:34 am »
The triangle/delta means major. I think the idea behind it is that it represents the three notes of a major triad. I don't typically use it for a "normal" major chord (e.g., I'd write E major as "E"), but if there are any sevenths or extensions I'll often use the triangle, like F∆7 for Fmaj7).

While I tend to include the 7 when noting a chord like F∆7,  you might run across other music that just uses F∆. That usually means "F major seventh" instead of just "F major", but I think the practice varies a bit from person to person.

On my computer, I use the "character map" utility to pull in stuff like delta and musical symbols (e.g., ∆, ♭, ♮, ♯, etc.). I'm running Linux, but Windows also has a "character map" application, and Mac has a character palette you should be able to bring up with Cmd + Option + T. Not sure about Android or iOS, though.

Thanks JWC

 

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