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Offline GuitarSenior

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Beginning Again
« on: September 10, 2020, 01:49:47 pm »
I am new to this group and excited to begin my guitar playing journey (again).

I am a senior who has had a good acoustic guitar for years and have started to teach myself with a video course by Steve Krenz a few times. The last time, January 2019, I found after a few weeks of practicing, that my fretting left hand thumb joint still hurt enough to discourage me from practicing. My guitar had not be setup professionally so that might have been part of the cause.

I am thinking of moving to an electric guitar and would appreciate your advice.

I am not into loud music and would likely stay with the soft rock, blues, folk, holiday genres of playing primarily for myself at home. A sales rep at a major online store has recommended that I purchase a semi-hollow guitar (Gretsch, D'Angelico, Epiphone) with a Fender   1x12, 15 watt tube amp. I had been looking at solid body guitars and solid-state amps.

Any thoughts on the above will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Beginning Again
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2020, 02:23:15 pm »
Hi GuitarSenior and welcome to the forum. You are going to get lots and lots of advice on here about what to do AND if you take a look at the forum you'll find plenty have asked the same questions before (although I appreciate not always easy to find). I'm not going to recommend anything specifically (others probably have better ideas)...but I'd say buy something (guitar and amp) that are "good enough" quality to start with AND then when you know for sure the guitar bug has bitten, and you can play a bit, look at upgrading to something that perhaps meets your needs more. At the moment I suspect you'd find it difficult to determine whether the semi hollow body guitar and tube amp are right....and might spend money that you don't need to. Also if you don't progress then you'll have not lost a lot of money.

The key thing is NOT to buy low budget i.e. starter packs, as these really aren't worth it.

Good luck with your guitar journey! you'll find lots of support on these forums.

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Re: Beginning Again
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2020, 03:56:30 pm »
I expect that any guitar that you feel passionate about picking up as often as possible is the best choice.  Probably good advice not to spend too much money too soon as well but I think I have violated that one  ;)

For my first electric guitar I went for a fully hollow body - an Epiphone Casino Coupe, the reduced size version of the guitar used by the Beatles.  I still love this guitar so I guess it was a good choice. The fully hollow body has much more volume when played unplugged than a semi-hollow but is still quieter than an acoustic so this guitar is my choice for early morning practice.  The light weight is a factor too.  I would like to buy another hollow body sometime, maybe a Gretsch  :)
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Re: Beginning Again
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2020, 04:33:45 pm »
I am new to this group and excited to begin my guitar playing journey (again).
I am not into loud music and would likely stay with the soft rock, blues, folk, holiday genres of playing primarily for myself at home. A sales rep at a major online store has recommended that I purchase a semi-hollow guitar (Gretsch, D'Angelico, Epiphone) with a Fender   1x12, 15 watt tube amp. I had been looking at solid body guitars and solid-state amps.
Any thoughts on the above will be greatly appreciated.
First of all welcome to the JG community, it’s a good place to be!
1) A hollow body or semi hollow body guitar would be a nice option, there are some really nice ones that are not too expensive.
2) A 15W 1x12 valve amp? definitely not, it would be way too loud for home use, you could blow the windows out with it! I would go for a decent quality solid state amp with up to about 25W output and preferably a 10” or 12” speaker - Fender, Blackstar, Marshall, Orange, Laney all make amps that would be good. So why 25W solid state when 15W valve is too loud? It’s purely down to the fact that if you push a solid state amp hard it will clip and sound awful, whereas valve amps actually sound nicer when being pushed. Solid state amps tend to sound better at low volume than valve amps which is one of the reasons quite a few Jazz players prefer Solid state amps. Basically it’s horses for courses, bedroom volumes are easier to sound good using a Solid state amp.
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Re: Beginning Again
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2020, 06:02:14 pm »
Welcome Mr Senior.
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I'd like to direct you to this conversation thread ... https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=24622.0

As to your questions ...

A hollow or semi-hollow would be a fair recommendation if you're coming from acoustic and want to play varied genres but nothing too heavy or loud.

Speaking of too heavy or loud, I do not recommend a 15w 1x12 tube amp.
It will be heavy and loud.

You can not compare watt output of tube amps with solid state amps.
They work differently.

As suggested, consider a fairly straight forward solid state amp.

And I would say it need not have a 12" or 10" speaker.

You can get very good home sounds from amps such as:

Blackstar ID:CORE series (these have two small speakers that give a 'wide' sound. They haev a few effects such as reverb and delay to give you some nice tones to play with.

Yamaha THR series of amps are also very well regarded for home use and again have a fairly simple and easy to use set of controls.

As to guitars ...

Epiphone Casino or Casino Coupe or Dot are worth considering at the medium budget.

Or consider a Squier CLassic Vibe thinline Telecaster.

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Re: Beginning Again
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2020, 01:39:47 am »
I am not into loud music and would likely stay with the soft rock, blues, folk, holiday genres of playing primarily for myself at home. A sales rep at a major online store has recommended that I purchase a semi-hollow guitar (Gretsch, D'Angelico, Epiphone) with a Fender   1x12, 15 watt tube amp.

The guitar recommendation seems fine. The 15W tube amp recommendation seems off-base for your use case. Now, don't get me wrong, I love tube amps (and one mine is a 15W Fender Blues Jr.), but I think it will be too much amp for what you're looking to do (i.e., playing primarily at home). The exception to this might be if the sales rep was showing you a Fender Super Champ X2. It's 15W and has tubes, but it's really a "hybrid" amp that also includes solid-state technology, and is more viable for home use than an all tube amp.

I'd look at some amps in the "small desktop type amps" category (e.g., Yamaha THR, Katana Air, Vox Adio Air, etc).

If those sound "too small" for what you want, then I'd look at some slightly larger modeling amps like the Katana 50, Blackstar ID:Core, etc.

(Keep in mind that you can't directly compare tube amp wattage and solid-state amp wattage. A tube amp will almost always be louder for a given wattage.)


 

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