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Offline Fresher

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Should I move on? I need some opinions
« on: September 20, 2019, 05:06:01 pm »
Hi guys, it's been a while :)

So, I stoped playing guitar for months and now I'm playing again but sadly not every day. But I wanna know if I'm ready to move on to Stage 4, here's a screenshot of the One Minute Changes:

https://i.postimg.cc/sfTBSpnd/Screenshot-20190920-125807.png

My goal was 90-100 on every stage, but I don't think that's possible.

I don't think I can improve much more than this, specially C-G and Dm-G.

Should I continue trying at least to 80 or 90 or should I move on? Because it's getting really boring.
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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2019, 06:05:48 pm »
The one minute change exercise is not the way to determine when to move on.
Are you only counting the clean changes? If half your changes are not clean you're
only doing 45. On the other hand if 75 out of 90 are clean you're doing great.

How many songs can you play. No point moving on if you can't use what you have
learnt.
Can you name the open strings?
Hows your basicfinger workout?
Hows your basic rhythm?
Can you play along with the Country Roads video?
These are the things you should be able to do to move on.

OMC is only a small part of learning to play the guitar.

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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2019, 06:28:51 pm »
The one minute change exercise is not the way to determine when to move on.
Are you only counting the clean changes? If half your changes are not clean you're
only doing 45. On the other hand if 75 out of 90 are clean you're doing great.


How many songs can you play. No point moving on if you can't use what you have
learnt.
Can you name the open strings?
Hows your basicfinger workout?
Hows your basic rhythm?
Can you play along with the Country Roads video?

These are the things you should be able to do to move on.

OMC is only a small part of learning to play the guitar.

1. Kinda (I'm not doing 90; it's going to take too many time to do all 90 changes right? What about the boringness?).
2. You mean the APP backtrack songs? If so, 4 songs. I don't play songs that I don't like/want.
3. E, A, D, G, B, E or Mi, Lá, Ré, Sol, Si, Mi
4. It's the easiest exercice ever since it's not about speed.
5. I'm not perfect at rhythm, I don't know how much good I need to be.
6. I don't like that song.
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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2019, 08:53:05 pm »
My opinion, for what it’s worth...

There are lots of songs on each stage, find something you do like. Learn that, the basic way. Then improve on that

I’m only 8 months in... but playing songs I like breaks it up. Don’t give up on the basics though, but don’t get hung up. Justin says the 1 minute chord changes don’t have to be perfect. Or drop 1 minute changes for change on the beat exercise (with a metronome)

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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2019, 09:12:42 pm »
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1. Kinda (I'm not doing 90; it's going to take too many time to do all 90 changes right? What about the boringness

It will take exactly 1 minute. You can also mix it up and use 3 or 4 different chords
If you get bored after a minute maybe guitar is not for you.

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2. You mean the APP backtrack songs? If so, 4 songs. I don't play songs that I don't like/want
App backing, song book, website. Makes no difference where you learn the songs as long
as you're learning songs. It not about playing song you like or don't like in the begining
It's about learning new skills.

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3. E, A, D, G, B, E or Mi, Lá, Ré, Sol, Si, Mi
Checked off the list

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4. It's the easiest exercice ever since it's not about speed
Your correct it's not about speed it's about dexterity
Checked off the list

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5. I'm not perfect at rhythm, I don't know how much good I need to be
Good enough to play songs using RUST 1 and RUST 2. Songs like Country Roads.
But seeing that you don't like that song you'll need to find one you do like.

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6. I don't like that song.
Like I said earlier it's not about liking or disliking a song it's about the skills you learn
and in turn apply to song you do like to play.

So the answer to your original question is.
Do you think you've mastered the skill taught in stage 3 to move to stage 4.

I'd say keep working on the stage 3 rhythm and move on. To fight any boredom
Find song you want to learn and use the skills you're aquired to learn them.
Even easy versions of song can be fun to play and as your skills grow so will
the complexity of the music you play.

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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2019, 11:07:52 am »
Just a little bit of advice, you are learning to play the guitar, not just learning to play songs you like; if you continue with the attitude that you will only play songs that you like it will just be more difficult to learn to play the guitar - you will be imposing a big restriction on yourself!
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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2019, 07:06:22 pm »
How many songs do I need to learn before moving on on each stage?

I need to know the song by heart (all the chords and solos)?
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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2019, 07:08:34 pm »

Justin said the OMC does't need to be perfect. So now what?
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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2019, 10:27:20 am »
My 2 cents:

I think we are all getting a bit obsessed with numbers.

A precise number of songs, a precise number of changes, a precise number of hours spent practicing per day, etc. Those precise things don't really matter. If you are somewhere in the range of Justin's recommendations, you feel (objectively) confident in your skills and you're having fun, you're good to go.

But at the end of the day, you are here to play music (read: songs). The ones you like, the ones you don't. I personally don't listen to any of the singer/songwriter music but still play it when my friends want to sing along. Do I like this style of music? No. Is it fun to play it and have good time with people? Yes.

I fully agree with what Stich and Darrell said. You're here to become a musician and you will get the most out of your time by sticking to Justin's course.

But do not be afraid to explore, try something outside your abilities and work on it. All of my heros (Justin included) learnt by listening to records and transcribing them. They didn't have the structured course (well at least most of them). I went this way and it worked out for me. But it does take way more time and you do have to be a bit obsessed with it since you're litreally spending hours listening the same section of the song.

But I will tell you the truth. I keep thinking where would I be if I've known about Justin those 12 or 13 years ago (a lot of technique was poor/had to be relearnt, etc.).

Welcome back to guitar and keep having fun!

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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2019, 07:04:22 pm »
Thanks for the message my friend. I have OCD, so I'm a perfeccionist, well it's bad and good, I mean I wanna be "perfect", so I'll enjoy the benefits later by wanna being so precise. By perfeccionism is never good.
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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2019, 06:46:31 pm »
How many songs do I need to learn before moving on on each stage?

I need to know the song by heart (all the chords and solos)?
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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2019, 07:08:42 pm »
Have you ever read the text under the videos in the last lesson(Practice Schedule)?

The last paragraph is
"When to move on"  in stage 1
"Should I move on" in stage 2
"When should I move to stage 4" in stage 3
The beginner course is more than just watching videos. You should be reading
what Justin has in the comments under every video.

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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2019, 08:05:04 pm »


I read everything, it doesn't say anything about my question.
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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2019, 09:37:07 pm »
I started learning (after a break of almost 50 years) in February last year. Earlier this year I posted about one minute changes. How many, are they necessary, are beginners fixated with them and should they be. Some forum members agreed with me, others chopped my head off!
I’m obviously no expert but I’m still of the same opinion - you only need to change chords as fast as a song requires. If a song needs a quick change from chord x to chord y then that’s the one to practice. If another song requires a fast change from chord ? to chord ? then again that’s the one to practice. Don’t be fixated by numbers. Enjoy your instrument! Learn songs. That’s what it’s all about. Yes, in addition to learning songs you love, learn songs and chord progressions you don’t particularly like and find difficult - that’s still more fun than endless chord changes that won’t come up in any song anyway.
If friends come to your house or ask you take your guitar to theirs, they want to sing, they want to hear you play songs, they won’t say “show us how many C to G changes can you make in one minute”.
Justin’s BC is terrific, I loved it, and whilst you must be diligent, methodical and stick with it, don’t be a slave to it. If you feel ready to move on to the next stage, do it. You can always come back and revise things if necessary.
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Re: Should I move on? I need some opinions
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2019, 09:56:03 pm »

Thanks man!
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