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"Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« on: September 07, 2019, 08:31:25 pm »
So I have two versions here, can't decide which would be better to play at the local open mic....... so some opinions please of which you like better fingerstyle or strumming? (still working on my technique for both)

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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2019, 09:43:23 pm »
Don't know that one, it's a goodie. So thanks for sharing, Len.

I'm leaning towards the strummed version.  The technique of bass note with thumb and strumming with index finger looks effective... (yet) another thing to try. Sounded really good and I think worked for the song.

I think some bass linking runs would sound good here.  Help accent the start of some of the different sections.

When is the Open Mic?

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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2019, 10:42:29 pm »
It is a tough choice and both versions are very nice. I think the strum version has more drive to it, so I will hang my hat on that one....

All the best at the open mic!
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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2019, 03:47:33 am »

I'm leaning towards the strummed version.  The technique of bass note with thumb and strumming with index finger looks effective... (yet) another thing to try. Sounded really good and I think worked for the song.

I think some bass linking runs would sound good here.  Help accent the start of some of the different sections.

When is the Open Mic?

I actually worked on a third version combining both techniques, starting fingerstyle and then going into the strumming on the chorus and back but found it awkward (maybe just needs practice).

I've seen Tom Petty do this live with his band, he uses a down strum with his index finger only but the band does the rest of the work including a steel guitar type solo.

Trying for my one person approach, to me it's a combination of the playing and singing that I think makes it interesting for the audience (unless of course you are playing to a group of guitarists that only focus on your  guitar expertise and style!), My test audience (my wife) is interested in the whole thing, so nice music thru the song with good vocals. When I play an open mic I try for the middle ground, nothing too fancy  or I get uncomfortable!

Open mic in 3-4 weeks, I'm working on 6 songs, will probably do three of them depending on how I feel that day! Then if time permits, sometimes an extra.

Thanks for the feedback!

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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2019, 03:49:20 am »
It is a tough choice and both versions are very nice. I think the strum version has more drive to it, so I will hang my hat on that one....

All the best at the open mic!
LB

Thanks, I like the strumming better as well, thought it had a better flow and the audience would like it better but thats why I'm asking.....want to see how this group sees it!

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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2019, 10:50:59 am »
Hi,

I do like the third version idea.
Start with finger picking, then ramp up into the the strum - maybe carry this through till towards the end, perhaps revisit the picking around 2.08, before back in to the strum for the ending?

Not a tune I'd heard before. But enjoyed it.

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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2019, 02:03:00 pm »
Hi,

I do like the third version idea.
Start with finger picking, then ramp up into the the strum - maybe carry this through till towards the end, perhaps revisit the picking around 2.08, before back in to the strum for the ending?

Not a tune I'd heard before. But enjoyed it.

Digger

Yes, certainly more interesting....if I can pull if off while singing then probably a good idea but sometimes playing and singing, one gets in the way (in my head). But assuming one way or the other, do you prefer strumming or fingerstyle?

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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2019, 04:35:15 pm »
My el cheapo headphones are being used by my wife this morning, so I'm left with mac laptop speakers. That said, I liked both versions but really couldn't tell much difference. You should choose the version that is more automatically under your fingers for open mic, or perhaps choose the one that allows you to raise your vocals a bit more above the guitar. Both covers were very good, so either one should work well.

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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2019, 08:43:10 pm »
My el cheapo headphones are being used by my wife this morning, so I'm left with mac laptop speakers. That said, I liked both versions but really couldn't tell much difference. You should choose the version that is more automatically under your fingers for open mic, or perhaps choose the one that allows you to raise your vocals a bit more above the guitar. Both covers were very good, so either one should work well.

that sounds like good advice! as to volume, some is lost in the process of recording as it's all done on my android for these videos but I get what you are saying! Thanks much for the feedback!

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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2019, 12:45:23 pm »
here's a link to Tom Petty doing this song .

https://youtu.be/l_om5u2Fb6Q

..... I tried for a while to imitate his strumming style to no avail which is how my two versions came about!

Thanks all for the feedback, I'm still working on it, I think it will depend on what else I decide to play that day. But I don't like too many fingerstyle in a row as they start sounding the same and I have others I do better that way so probably the strumming version wins out, it's a bit faster as well which I like!

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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2019, 01:58:36 pm »
I prefer the strummed version, although they both have their own unique feel, both are excellent. Great skills on show Len!
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Re: "Square One" (Tom Petty cover) fingerstyle or strumming
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2019, 02:31:58 pm »
Thanks for the link to the original, Len.  I think you did a fine job with it and will stick with my preference for the strummed version. 

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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2019, 03:25:37 pm »
I prefer the strummed version, although they both have their own unique feel, both are excellent. Great skills on show Len!

thank you much!

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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2019, 03:26:06 pm »
Thanks for the link to the original, Len.  I think you did a fine job with it and will stick with my preference for the strummed version.

thanks David!

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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2019, 07:46:58 pm »
ok, for those still following along.......

still working on a few new things here vs. my other video of the same song (https://youtu.be/d7cqMlk6gyI) that you folks felt my strumming version was better than my fingerstyle version ...... so this new one is a different key ("A" using a capo vs "G" in the others, spliced in a solo and also trying to get closer to Tom Petty's strumming technique (https://youtu.be/l_om5u2Fb6Q) ..... (Tom Petty btw playing his in "Gb" capo on 6)

here's my latest attempt


updated 09/11,
 faster, some video edit and volume adjusted (again) on the solo

again, feel free to comment this vs. my other strumming version in the link above ........and then I'm done, gonna practice one way going forward (without the solo unless I find a friend to join me for the open mic!)

Len

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