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Offline BCDC

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Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« on: July 26, 2019, 01:25:07 am »
Recently, I have noticed some inconsistencies between some official versions of songs on Ultimate Guitar versus what good people like Justin and Marty Schwartz teach online. A good example of this is AC/DC Dirty Deeds. Justin and Marty teach it differently to what is listed as the official version on UG. From what I can tell, Justin and Marty teach it the way AC/DC play it. I was surprised at this discrepancy because I automatically assumed that the official versions of songs on UG would be a trusted source. What are other people’s experiences with UG. Is this an anomaly, or something I need to look out for in future?


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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2019, 03:10:30 am »
Online tabs are usually done by people who have nothing better to do but post
what they think is right. Most are wrong.

People like Justin are real musicians who have spent thousands of hour learning
to play by ear and usually get it right.
This is why Justin is a huge believer in learning to trancribe music yourself is the
best way to learn.
Use your ears and you'll beamuch better player.





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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2019, 06:39:04 am »
Online tabs are hugely unreliable ... period.
UG especially.
Try Songsterr for an improvement in quality.
Or seek a trusted tutor online such as Justin.

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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2019, 09:41:37 am »
Although I'm probably not needed, I completely agree with stitch and close here.   I stopped using tabs many years ago unless they come from the artist themselves (even then I have found errors)  The point is start using your ear as much as possible early on and you'll be able to transcribe or work out a song with greater accuracy then any online tabs.
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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2019, 09:56:07 am »
Everything that people above said but there's one more thing that I still find hilarious.

Online tabs are usually copy&paste from another tab site. If you check other sources you will start seeing the same errors everywhere. I am always amused how somebody lists the tune as "version xyz" while it's literally a copy and paste from the "version xyz minus 1" :D

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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2019, 11:19:52 am »
I think the UG "official" tabs are only official in the sense that they've been contributed (and, perhaps, transcribed by) the UG staff themselves rather than a random submission, and they tend to be all of the parts rather than just the guitar.

I've tried Songsterr, and some of the tabs on that seem to be the same as those on UG.

TBH even with artist tabs they tend to be transcriptions by a third-party. The Frank Zappa guitar book, for instance, was famously transcribed by Steve Vai. I'm sure in a lot of cases, they are commissioned or licenced by the record label and the artist themselves have very little to do with it.

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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2019, 11:48:33 am »
I still have a bookshelf full of tab books when I was under the illusion that they would magically teach me how to play :-[ These were quite expensive at the time (easily the equivalent of €30 or more back in the 1990s). However compared to what you find on free tab sites, these books were lightyears ahead in quality.

I would not waste time hunting down good tabs from UG. Songsterr seems to have better quality in general, but it's still the luck of the draw. For song tutorials I would stick to a handful of trusted teachers such as Justin, Mike Pachelli, Carl Brown...

Nowadays I use tabs merely to double check what I have transcribed myself. My rule of thumb: what I cannot figure out by myself, is too difficult for me to play anyway.
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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2019, 01:01:18 pm »
Thanks for all of the replies folks. Much appreciated. I understand and appreciate the benefits of transcribing. I get it. Unfortunately, I only get 3 hours per week to do anything guitar related (4 hours if I am lucky!), so I have prioritized technique, skills development, learning songs, etc. as it stands, I don’t feel like I put enough practice in. I hope to begin transcribing one day, but it will have to be put on the back burner until I have more time. It looks like I have foolishly made the assumption that the OFFICIAL tabs created by the UG staff, not the tabs created by other unknown people who post on UG, were created by well seasoned musicians like Justin and Marty. Clearly that is not the case, and I appreciate being schooled on that issue. I will have more of a skeptical eye in future when using these tabs. BTW - UG version of Dirty Deeds sounds pretty good....to this newbie anyway!!!!! Lol. Thanks again.


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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2019, 01:59:45 pm »
Maybe it's because the word itself sounds rather lofty, but I think many people have the idea that transcribing is some sort of specialised activity that only "very serious" musicians engage in. It isn't. It really just means "figure out how to play something". You do not even have to write it down.

Just take a song (start with something straightforward, so no Dream Theater ;) ) and listen to the bass. That will give you a hint of the chord progression. There even is no need for theory: just try out major and minor chords and usually it will be obvious which is being played. Pick one of the strumming patterns that Justin teaches and you are done.

Do this a couple of times and soon you will be able to figure out more complex things, all by yourself without having to revert to faulty tabs and chord sheets that were uploaded by heaven knows who :)
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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2019, 02:51:02 pm »
Another thing to consider, is that artists will change and/or rearrange their own work as time goes by. Especially when the artists perform live, they almost never play a song a particular way exactly the same way twice. Take Simon & Garfunkel's "The Boxer". Compare the original release to one of the later live performances and you will find the lyrics have changed. It happens quite often.

So when you see a difference in tabs, it may also depend on which performance that the tab may be based.

And I agree, most of them do have errors too.
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Re: Ultimate Guitar Official Song Versions
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2019, 04:36:03 pm »
BCDC the best way to start learning to transcribe is to listen to the song you
want to learn a lot. I mean many many times get the song in your head.

Because you don't have a lot of time use tabs. You will find the mistakes
very quickly because they will just sound wrong. Use your ears to figure out
what sounds right to you.
Every time you do this you will get better at it. Next thing you know you'll be
learning songs just by listening.

 

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