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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2019, 11:59:01 am »
Congratulations Pam!

We also played out in our yard a few weeks ago. It was fun and felt good. No one threw any rotten tomatoes. Haha.

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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2019, 10:16:31 pm »
My only suggestion is come out of the bedroom and start playing in shared living space. It's important to weave your playing into the fabric of your family's life.
Couldn’t agree more. Playing with family listening is a huge step forward. Next one is with friends listening too. I enjoy playing ‘with’ family and friends. Quite different and a lot easier than playing ‘for’ family and friends as that implies you have to ‘entertain’ them.
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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2019, 04:22:54 am »
Thanks, Maggie. Wow, three cheers!  I appreciate that. And for liking my voice. However, the last two or three I’ve sang have given me trouble. Parts of each one are a bit outside my vocal range. But going to keep trying to push them.


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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2019, 04:31:03 am »
Hey David. Thanks!  If I have time and incentive, I may try a video for the contest.

Concerning consolidation,  tonight I was a bit perplexed about where to go next & what to study. I did add another practice bullet in my rotations. ET-303 The Mental Fretboard. Something I have seemed to accidentally overlook until now. I’ve already added practicing E-Shaped Barre chords up and down the fret. From there, not sure yet where to move forward to.  But as you say, I’ll keep on rocking & rolling!


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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2019, 04:34:25 am »
Thanks Toby. You’ve got that right - slow & steady. Seems I’m pretty much methodical in many cases.


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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2019, 04:35:46 am »
Thanks, Richard for stopping in my RC and congratulating me. Means a lot.


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« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2019, 04:37:29 am »
Thanks Lynn!  Haha!  Rotten Tomatoes! 


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« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2019, 04:41:06 am »
Thanks sairfingers! That’s a good way of looking at it. Good advice. Playing WITH someone & not FOR them. However, today, I recorded and played for my brother the Happy Birthday Song. I think he was surprised! 


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« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2019, 05:16:49 am »
That's the stuff! You've roped them in. Give them time to chill and dig your vibe. It takes time and you're working to move your skills forward. Onward and upward.

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« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2019, 05:54:09 am »
Hey David. Thanks!  If I have time and incentive, I may try a video for the contest.

Concerning consolidation,  tonight I was a bit perplexed about where to go next & what to study. I did add another practice bullet in my rotations. ET-303 The Mental Fretboard. Something I have seemed to accidentally overlook until now. I’ve already added practicing E-Shaped Barre chords up and down the fret. From there, not sure yet where to move forward to.  But as you say, I’ll keep on rocking & rolling!

Pam, I chatted to Justin about moving on post BC during my Skype lesson with him. 

A key piece of advice was not to start up too many different things.  And also not to be too worried about following the path strictly.

In my case, he watched me playing my basic BC finger-picking and encouraged me to look at the advanced folk finger style module ... not being worried that it is "advanced".  Then played some pentatonic scales, spoke about blues.  Could start the blues lead.  During the session I'd played some E and A shape barre chords, which he said were pretty much OK.  So next in Intermediate for me is the 1/16 note strumming and counting. He suggested to pick a couple of things and focus for a few months, give it time to make some progress.

In the end, I started on the finger-picking.  Turns out the thing I never made any progress at all on prior to Justin is now something I really enjoy.  Did try some of the 1/16 note work but wasn't getting into it, so pass on that one for now :)  But that is fine since to a degree, it is my adventure to enjoy as I choose.

So I reckon it comes down to what and how do you want to play.  Maybe in the short, medium and long-term.  Then pick something that helps move you towards that goal. 

I can say learning the E and then A shape barre chords, really opens things up in terms of being able to play more songs and mix things up using more of the fret board, different voicings for chords.  And that is all good without 1/16 note strumming.  I say that since A shape comes after some of the strumming work and maybe one might feel you have to do the strumming first ... I don't think so. 

You could look at the video lessons Justin is posting with Tammy, and follow along.

I want to be able to play that acoustic folk-country-blues style eventually, with a slide.  So getting into finger-picking made sense since it moves me towards being able to play that style of music.  But also want to play simple lead on the electric, so could do blues lead but that would be where the too many focus points could come into play.

And of course, consolidating by playing songs.  And for I like to make the recordings, not aiming for flawless just good enough, as the end result of learning a song.

Gosh, rather a long reply, with maybe more of my experience than is appropriate in your RC.  But hope some of the thoughts may be help you figure things out and make some choices.

And above all, keep it fun.

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« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2019, 03:16:23 pm »
Thanks CT. Will keep on trying.


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« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2019, 03:25:26 pm »
No problem, David. It’s all helpful advice. I figure I will probably head towards the folk finger style but I discovered that I also like songs like “Rather Go Blind” which I believe is Blues. So I may do a little research on that first. I’m just starting on the E shape Barre Chords. Will check on Scales lessons also. I also haven’t done much on 1/16 Strumming. Good advice on following along with Tammy & Justin videos.


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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2019, 08:17:31 pm »
What a great read your RC is Pam and what a great journey the last 4 years has been for you.   I hadn't felt the need to comment until now as you are all over this guitar playing.    You've made the transition from a regular person to a guitar player and a musician and it shows.

I would love to see you comfortable playing for people because I can tell that it is important to you. So it should be.   Pam, we're the same.  I mean, i'm a man and you're a woman so we're not exactly the same, however we are in that I struggle to play for an audience of 1 or 100 people. 
This may not work for you Pam but it does for me so I hope it helps.

Ok so previously my mindset when I was ever confronted with an audience was one of 'I must impress, or I must give'  My emotions were that of pure excitement and anticipation but my nerves were gone due to the pressure I'd put on myself.    I was talking with a counselor one day and she offered this piece of wisdom.    As the musician, playing for anyone is a privilege, in fact they are giving us an amazing gift by being an audience.   We are the ones on the receiving end when we perform.   As musicians, every opportunity we have to share our music is a gift we should cherish and not let the chance pass.   We wouldn't give a gift back that's been given to us, we'd be excited and thankful.  Pondering this helped me realize what I was really doing and took so much pressure off.  Maybe it will for you to Pam.  :)
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Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2019, 08:51:05 pm »
As musicians, every opportunity we have to share our music is a gift we should cherish and not let the chance pass.
I can see where you’re coming from Alex, but where does the confidence come from when you’re not sure of your ability and skill to entertain? We have to be sure our gift is of an acceptable standard before offering it. Otherwise we’re deluding ourselves that others want to listen.
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« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2019, 10:28:22 pm »
Absolutely sairfingers,  having the ability and knowing your material back to front is first and foremost.     I would never play for anyone if I wasn't confident in what I was about to play.    Nerves and stage fright affect individuals regardless of their ability or talent.    Performing is a completely separate skill to playing which is not always acknowledged.   You play guitar,  well you can play for us then,  is often the false assumption.   

I should have been clearer in my post.   Absolutely, good preparation and knowing your material is step one.   If then performing or the thought of it is a big problem then perhaps a change in mindset might help.

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« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2019, 11:00:18 pm »
Alex & sairfingers. All are comments, thoughts, & insights to seriously ponder on. I realize it could be either in different cases. Is it actually fear or the fact I may not completely know the material. For me, it can be both. The song I played for my grand babies, I knew well enough at least for them. Not afraid of my grand babies. But if the adults in the family would have been listening, I wouldn’t have been so confident. My main fear is forgetting the words, chords... & if I bore them.  Anyway, thanks for your comments. They are always helpful and appreciated.


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« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2019, 09:53:44 pm »
Well, I’m still working on “Let Her Go”.  That’s why I haven’t posted much besides the contest entries. I’ve watched Justin’s lesson on the song.  I found some tab & printed it off. Some of it I had to use whiteout on to make it as close to Justin’s lesson as I could.  It’s a fast song too. Which I can’t play that fast. The fingerpicking in the beginning of the song is the hardest for me. I don’t want to just strum the whole song so I want to learn it & include the fingerpicking. I don’t know if I will be able to play it to my satisfaction for quite a while; so I decided I will keep trying, but move along with something else in addition.

I’m practicing along with the First module in the Consolidation Course & maybe soon to advance to Module 2. I plan on also buying the Fingerpicking Book.  I’m practicing for the current contest with a song in the Bonus Module of the Beginners Course Book. Not a song I ever would have picked, but it seems my vocals work better on that song than on others I have in my repertoire. It also has a challenging strumming pattern - at least for me. So I’m going with that one. Looking forward to giving it a go.


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« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2019, 10:14:00 pm »
Good to get an update from you, Pam, and glad yo hear you are still strumming and picking. No big deal how long it takes you to get the songs down...took me months to be adequate with some of the coverx I've posted recently.  Look forward to hearing and hopefully watching your contest entry in due course.

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« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2019, 10:19:43 pm »
It's just music, something we do for fun, it's not a competition! Oh wait, never mind. :)




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« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2019, 11:22:04 pm »
Thanks David. Appreciate your encouragement.

Clint thanks for the laugh. You caught yourself before you hit send


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« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2019, 01:47:09 am »
You're making great progress Pam. Looking forward to your comp entry.

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« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2019, 01:43:58 pm »
Thanks so much, Maggie!


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« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2020, 02:59:30 pm »
Just wanted to mention, the song I did in my earlier posts was “Stuck in the Middle With You”. Which will be one I’m keeping in my Set List/Repertoire. I have finally built an actual Set List which, as of now, I have 10 songs and working on number 11. (Justin said in a video somewhere, that 20 is a good number to have, so I’m going for that - if I can keep that many in my memory bank). I’m trying to keep them varied as to Genres; from one Nursery Rhyme song, to Country, to Pop & my current favorite Genre - I think it’s called Adult Alternative or Indie Pop, maybe?  Plus the two, so far, that I’ve written myself to be added.

I’m still plowing through “Let Her Go”. I’m wanting to memorize it, and include in my Set List, but memorization is my nemesis, and for me, this is a hard one to memorize. Such a challenge.

I’m also working on “Broken Halos”. The Strumming Pattern is fine - except for the Bm. And I still can’t sing and play this one at the same time. I may just do separate tracks just so I can post a song, but want to sing/play together before it can go in the Set List. I had a forum post a while back from Richard, on how to practice that type of song. Here is a copy of that post.

“*Play along with original song, no singing, many times, until you get to “auto-pilot”
*Do the same with singing
*Then bring guitar & singing together playing along with the original
*Then on your own and at a slower speed if necessary”

So that’s why I haven’t posted anything in a while.

Also, back in Sep or Oct 2019, I was invited by Maggie to join in on a song collaboration. Of course I said yes! I’ve always been impressed by Maggie, her vocals, her custom-made guitar , and mostly her personality. I love to read her well-written, witty posts. So along with her, DavidP, LBro, & Oldhead49, we  did a cover of “Mockingbird”. Through illness, other pressing events, and hard work, we “got her done” in Jan 2020!  It was challenging, but a fun song to do. I enjoyed working with this team❤️.

The other thing I wanted to post is that I had been adding a lot of practice items to my practice routines & was rotating them on alternate days, but it was getting too overwhelming. So when Justin’s Practice Assistant came out, I decided to utilize it. It took some time to get it started. I had to rewatch the introduction video about three times to learn it, but I now have three routines created. That may be about one too many, but it really seems to have helped me get back on track a little better and not feel so overwhelmed. I’m sticking a little more closely to the Intermediate Book and letting go of some of the older practice items. Just keeping what I know I need to retain. Anyway, just a little plug for the Practice Assistant.

The only other thing I can think of mentioning now is that I have been practicing the E-Shape & A-Shape Barre Chords and so far am doing better on them. I did figure out though that my left shoulder had been hurting back in early January. At first, I felt like my shoulder joint was popped out of place. But after taking it easy and figuring out it wasn’t the way I hold my blow dryer to dry my hair; that it was most likely how I’m fretting those Barre Chords. So I’m just trying to shift my arm & hand position while playing. My shoulder seems much better now but I still need to be conscious of it and take care of it. Still not back to 100% but much better. I’m sure some of that is Arthritis & age. Which also got me back into a good exercise routine. That has certainly helped! 




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Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2020, 08:07:08 pm »
Great update Pam. I am especially impressed with your goal of building that repertoire to 20.
Well done on the 10 and a bit so far.
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« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2020, 12:35:07 am »
Thanks Richard; and thanks on your pointers on how to practice on playing/singing at same time! 


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