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Offline FLH1313

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Beginner acoustic
« on: December 01, 2018, 06:26:16 pm »
I am looking a a fender FA-100 for $85 CAD.
Was wondering if anyone knows anything about this guitar and if the price is worth it?
I have been playing about 8 months

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Re: Beginner acoustic
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2018, 07:28:35 pm »
FA-100 is the Fender brand's entry level acoustic guitar. I tried to post a couple of review links for you, but the daft permission constraints of this forum wouldn't permit it. "You are not allowed to post external links". o.O

Going street price for a new FA-100 is USD$149ish. CAD$85 for second hand in very good condition sounds about right. Good buying if it's near new in very good condition, a little less if it has any signs of wear and tear. Negotiate the price of a set of new strings off it if it's more than 6 months old. Pass if it has any damage.

FA-100's target demographic is new entrant, and functionally it's fine for a first guitar to learn on -with the caveat, it's a Dreadnought. While I wouldn't buy one new with alternatives available around similar price points, plenty do because of the name on the headstock.

Why?
A. Yamaha, Cort and others offer a better product around the same new price point, and Cort in the particular offers a basic but superb quality Concert bodied acoustic in their AF-510 OP. Their Dreadnought version is the AF-810. Yamaha's equivalent of the AF-810 is the F-310.
B. Personal predilection. I detest Dreads.
C. Fender is Basswood body with laminate top. I'm no guitar snob, but I can tell you from first hand experience, whilst just fine as a learning/training tool which is really all about the neck and fingerboard, a Chinese made Basswood body won't sound near as good as any of the alternative offerings I've mentioned. Trust me. Made in Indonesia production quality and a Pacific Mahogany body tone beats Basswood any day. Cort even at entry level also come fitted out of the box with 80/20 Phosphor bronze D'Addario OEM. 

I guess whether you buy the FA-100 or not depends upon your purpose for it. What are you currently using if you've been playing 8 months?
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Offline FLH1313

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Re: Beginner acoustic
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2018, 07:58:05 pm »
First off thanks for the info. I am learning on a Jackson JS22 electric. I was looking to grab something that I didn’t need to plug in and sounds good. What would you suggest that won’t break the bank?

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Re: Beginner acoustic
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2018, 11:17:20 pm »
I was looking to grab something that I didn’t need to plug in and sounds good. What would you suggest that won’t break the bank?

Depends upon what you want to do and budget.

As you're aware, even a solid body electric can be heard acoustically.

A few things to consider, primarily what you want an acoustic for? i.e. actual purpose. Acoustic tones or?

Any acoustic is going to make noise. No good for practise when silence for the household or neighbours (late at night) is a prerequisite consideration.

Options I see are buy a headphone amp like one of the Vox AmPlugs or a clone, if quieter practise is your goal?  I have a NUX GP-1 and it works a treat. Sure technically you have to plug it in, but without a lead, and it's silent insofar as others are concerned, yet you can rock to your hearts content with it. And of course, portability. Second option is use a headset with the Jackson and your existing amp. Most amps will have a 3.5mm headset jack these days.

OTOH if your reason for wanting one is for acoustic purpose flexibility, e.g. "Don't Get Me Wrong", "Ventura Highway" et al, or merely curiosity I heartily endorse getting one. I realised I wanted arguably needed one about two months in, and I did. Be aware fretting an acoustic is usually very different from an electric due to the fingerboard radius, action and often, string gauge.

That said, what's your budget? No shame in going low if that's part of the requirement. And do you want a Dreadnought or Concert or?

My pick in the entry level stakes is either a Yamaha or Cort. But there are plenty of alternatives. Yamaha don't make an budget Concert body equivalent of their F310 at this juncture. Their APX is a fantastic e-acoustic guitar for those used to fretting electric, but its narrow neck won't suit everybody, and depending upon where you live, it's around twice the price or more than entry level altenatives like Fender's FA-100.

My pick of the cheapies is inarguably Cort's AF510 OP. I put my money where my mouth is. I own and play one, but my opine isn't ego driven misplaced buyer pride.  I already had two acoustics including the APX, but I bought an AF-510 after playing one a fair bit in the realisation of what a hidden gem they are despite their affordability.

Cort make an e-acoustic version too, the AF-510E and cutaway version AF-515E, but you're paying a premium for the prefitted preamp and piezo with them. Any of those are really sweet players with loads of warm tone and projection for concert bodies. Importantly IME, Corts QC is superb, those units are constructed of quality materials and components no-one else offers anywhere near their price point, and their necks do play very very nicely.

Hopefully there's something in there of use to you? Cheers.  8)
 

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Re: Beginner acoustic
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2018, 08:21:20 pm »
I am looking a a fender FA-100 for $85 CAD.
Was wondering if anyone knows anything about this guitar and if the price is worth it?
I have been playing about 8 months

I have this guitar and I am looking to swap it out.  Not sure what I am going to move to but I have also only be playing for less than 18 months.  I got the guitar as a gift to see if I liked to play.  I have learned a few chords and honestly can't really play any songs (nothing very well yet anyway).  About 8 months in to my playing the high e string just seems to ring long so I took the guitar in and had it setup and had the strings replaced.  Cost about $60 and the guitar sounded better but to me it still just doesn't sound great.  (again I have a beginning ear too).  Over the past weekend I was at a friends house and he put a Babicz Dreadnought acoustic in my hands and I was strumming some basic cords and not only did the cords seem easier to hit, there was no "ringing" or buzzing and even my wife said, "wow, that sounds so different" than my guitar at home.

Now I am not ready to drop 1200 on a Babicz but I am not starting a new guitar search.  Hoping this forum will help me out.  Before I buy I am going to hit up guitar center and play several guitars now that I have played a little I think I have a better understanding of the guitar and how it fits me.  I have a top end budget around 350 but I am not sure what guitars land in that range.

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Re: Beginner acoustic
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2019, 08:40:27 pm »
I am also learning on an electric (Pacifica 112 VMX) but found that I am doing a bit of rhythm and decided on an acoustic as well.  Given the crimbo sales were just on I was looking around and I was between a few but got down to the:

Fender 125 Acoustic or the Fender CD60S with the solid top.  Now my research tells me that the solid top is a better guitar overall and should sound way better.  The truth is that my ear at the moment could not tell between them when i heard them both at first hand, there was a £70 difference in price between them and given Im just learning and dotting around at home with the instruments went with the 125 rather than the CD60s.

Only one thing I would say is that the guitars definitely need set up and the 125 is currently in the shop awaiting the set up to be done, it was really painful to play in comparison to the pacifica. 


 

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