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adi_mrok's Road case
« on: July 30, 2020, 11:05:07 pm »
Okay so this is my first post in I hope many more during my forum road case journey.

I have joined this forum recently and I find it quite interesting and peaceful space which is a nice of a change comparing to all the rest of the internet. :)

My plan is to post here my progress and set my short and long term goals in my learning adventure so there it goes.

I came back to playing after too long of a break due to being too engaged with my education and working my way out in my profession. Now I have finally seems like settled I bought a fairly appropriate guitar, amp with effects and I am cracking on.

Practice routine:
- G maj scale technique and pace - at the moment 90x4bpm pretty much spot on, still getting some errors on 100bpm, attempt taken on 110bpm but still not comfortable.
- Bending/vibrato - seems they are getting a lot better after weeks of practice, train during licks rather than on their own.
- Blues licks from the web - (recheck at home which one from the list still need working on)
- New practice - practice each lick on its own with a backtrack, experiment with it
- Song section

Songs I've learnt since getting back to guitar:
- Fast Car - comfortable playing, need to figure out how to play and sing along, really difficult to split my mind up
- Hey there Delilah - spot on, singing seems all right along playing, perhaps after polishing my first video on the forum?
- Betterman - pretty okay but still need to put some work on it
- Heartbeats - bridge still behind, polish and practice pace
- Gotten  - verse 1 transcribed, in process transcribing remaining song, 50% of chorus done. Focus on this mainly

Long term goals:
- Hey Oh Snow
- Sultan of Swings
- Pride and Joy (soul wrecking really how difficult it is!)
- Minor pentatonic over different keys and chords
- Mixing with major pentatonic
- what scales or modes during rock songs? Research
- more licks! Some rock ones as well.
- Rude SRV
- Yellow Ledbetter
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Re: adi_mrok's Road case
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2020, 12:31:49 pm »
Right so been a few busy weeks guitar wise since my first post. Will try to record a video soon but my perfectionism is getting in my way - I tried to record one of the songs I know but after about 50 attempts I gave up until I get better grip at it. I am still a bit clunky around bridge and during the whole song I knock off some random strings accidentally, but hope to get there one day!


Practice routine:
- G maj scale technique and pace - got to 100bpm 16th nores pretty well, now trying to get 110bpm but feels like still more work required,
- Blues licks from the web - most done, need to replace some easy ones with new from Awesome Licks chapter
- Song section became recently songs section to increase my repertuar so to speak :)
- At some point I plan to go through rock techniques section and I will definitely add a legato practice into my routine, but need to watch some videos first to know what I need to work on.

Songs I know and work on:
- Fast Car - comfortable playing, long term goal to sing along
- Hey there Delilah - spot on, defo my first video for the forum, need to crack on and try to get a version recorded that I am happy with
- Betterman - pretty okay but still need to put some work on it to get it smooth. Later on perhaps sing along?
- Heartbeats - actually tried to record this one but I was keep failing on a bridge section. I will start with something easier and come back to this one later once I nail it.
- Gotten  - all transcribed, now trying to learn playing it. I will get there eventually, hell of a song!
- Scar Tissue - I used to know how to play the main riff but never had patience to play along with the song. Figured it's going to be easier to learn something I know at least a bit rather than starting somethig from the scratch. Goes pretty well but still working on my memory to remember which notes are played when (usually John plays sort of first section the same and second bit is different each time you progress through the song).
- Anywhere by Passenger - figured out yesterday on my own how to strum the chorus which is quite tricky when I need to convert from Cadd9 to Em7 or from B7 to Em7 (I think it would be a lot simpler on an acoustic guitar in open position chords).

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2020, 03:16:08 pm »
Back to it then! I have been MIA for a month on the forum in September/October time during my father's in law fatal accident (hit by a car on a pedestrian crossing) so needed to fly back to my home country to get through all the stuff. It was quite emotional and I think those things make you realize how fragile life is and to cherish every single minute of it - do what you love in the first place, spend your time with those who you love/loves you and then everything else. Well enough of the sad stuff.

I think my guitar journey is still on course, I'm still enjoying it a lot, learning new stuff, practicing old and just trying to get better I guess. I am trying to limit amount of stuff I'm working on at the same time but it's sometimes difficult, especially if you hear something you love in your speakers and want to learn it ideally in next 5 minutes. One day at a time I suppose!

Good news actually - today I made quite a spontaneous purchase and I got an electroacoustic guitar! I went for a second hand one but had a good check before I decided to get it and I am very happy both with the look and sound, especially for my level of skill. I'm posting the photo on the bottom, it's Fender CD-60SCE in black, man it looks so badass! What do you guys think?

Practice routine:
- G maj scale mechanics for warmup - got to 120bpm 16th notes pretty well, I'm finishing on 130bpm with some successful attempts so I guess that's a nice progress!
- Licks - I'm focusing only on one recently until I nail it, it's the one at the end of Sultan of swings which I know most of you know very well :) I can get to 90% pace easily, but I still sometimes loose a grip on full speed - will get there! I am also looking at PJ's Garden song but that is hell of a difficult little licks in there, will take some time.
- Snow Hey Oh - I have dedicated a separate section in my routine to just practice this song. I still make a lot of mistakes but I am amazed how it's going, it's the song that made me play and buy my first electric guitar years ago and that also defeated me and my eagerness to learn playing guitar few years back.
- Song section - just generally practicing songs I know depending on a day. I leave it for last just to enjoy and chill. Hopefully some of those I can share with you during Christmas break - I am planning to take some annual leave and I am not planning to go back to my family this Christmas due to Covid so seems I will have plenty of time to practice, yay!  ;D

Songs I know and work on:
- Fast Car - comfortable playing, long term goal to sing along.
- Hey there Delilah - recorded and shared, click here to check out!
- Betterman - comfortable playing, lately trying to sing along which will take some time.
- Heartbeats - as previously said I left it for a while but now I bought acoustic I can detune it and play the song every time I need to :) earlier I was bit discouraged by constant detuning and tuning back up just to play a single song.
- Gotten  - all transcribed, know how to play all bits but got bit bored for now so will revisit once I want to again.
- Scar Tissue - recorded and shared, click here to check out!
- Anywhere by Passenger - playing it often during Song section, possibly soon I'll record it especially that I have acoustic now and I think chorus will sound a lot better on acoustic.
- Blackbird - great song, getting better and better, need some practice still.
- Slide Goo Goo Dolls - my first song I am able to play and sing, yay! Once I'm ready and figure out how to record my singing without any interface in place I might share it with you guys :)
- Gone PJ - second song which I am trying to sing along to, however still needs some more work as strumming is bit tricky on this one, especially AOL version I have found on youtube and I prefer :)

Okay so now the main guest - I present to you my new guitar! Really nice Xmas present I made myself  ;D


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Re: adi_mrok's Road case
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2021, 08:10:30 pm »
So this post will be slightly off from a usual pattern, I plan to set some goals for this year similar to others however I wanted something new and quick, so I will keep it short!

I am learning a new song, possibly many of you know, it's RHCP - Snow. Now Justin was saying in his lesson once you get progression you will have it, but clearly easier said than done!

I went back to basics - slow down, get it sorted and speed up. Songs bpm is 105, I am at 75bpm now. Supposed to be a quick question, so there it is - below is a quick sample of me playing, do you think I should still practice at this pace a bit more or am I ready to add another 5 bpm?

Becuse I play longer due to slowing song down my hand gets sour quicker so on one hand I would love to move on, on another I don't know if I should and I don't make too many mistakes! Have a listen and let me know your thoughts!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e9ZDH43RDt2ZAS3EHVm7YzQb2MTyglbl/view?usp=drivesdk

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Re: adi_mrok's Road case
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2021, 03:28:22 pm »
Okay so I have seen plenty of interesting posts around RCs since January with some goals set and expectations - I think it is a nice idea to do the same and post it in here, sort of a self-appraisal type of thing :) And to make things more interesting I will also update my practice routine and songs I am and have worked on so far.

I think so far so good with my practice, I feel I am making Gulliver steps since I started back which is very encouraging and keeps me well motivated. Community that appreciates your recordings - it only helps carry on with what I've been up to :) I will probably split my goals to three typical sections: short, medium and long term goals.

Short term goals - Technique (for next 6 months):

- To learn more songs obviously! I have decided to work on less songs at the same time so gaps between recordings can be shorter than usual. I don't want to end up with 3 months gaps and then publish 5 songs each week back to back (sort of like I ended up lately).
- Polish my G Major scale accuracy and feel more comfortable at the current speed - it's my eat your vegetables sort of exercise, to create my own music and impros will follow, for now it's all about a technique.
- Work on more licks - I am not doing many at the same time, lately it's been two licks from PJ - Garden, most recognizable lick from Sultans of Swing and... main theme from Power Rangers, something I was dreaming to play as a child :D
- That might be a challenge, but to finish songs I am learning now, especially my Mount Everest which is Snow by RHCP. At the moment I am at 85 bpm (song's pace is 105 bpm) and I think soon I can move the bar up to either 90 or 95.

Medium term goals - Technique + Musicianship (for next 12 months):

- Again songs songs songs, I would like to try more complex ones (like Sultans of Swing, some Santana, PJ and more RHCP) to improve the technique, so once I start making my own music I have plenty aces in my sleeves to use.
- Start thinking more about what I play, so what key I am in, what notes solos consist of and why is it played that way. I sort of do it now but to a very limited scope, so that needs to improve!
- That's an ambitious one - musicianship. I need to learn how to make my own music, I feel I should improve in this aspect, so I need to start learning scales, shapes and how to use those. For the moment I only know G Major scale in E shape and A minor pentatonic in all 5 shapes and that means nothing until I can use it over different chords.
- Probably that's when I will renew my PMT subscription to remind myself of the basics and work with Justin's material to become a better musician.

Long term goals - Proficiency (for next 12+ months):

- Knowing all notes on fretboard without a hesitation,
- Understanding scales, how to play and manipulate those over different chords and backing tracks,
- Start learning modes only when I feel I am able to understand those and when to use them.
- Write my first song,
- Enrol to a singing course.

I think those are very challenging goals but I am trying to be reasonable with time frames. If I don't make it - so be it, as long as I enjoy the journey I am happy to carry on as it is :)

Practice routine:
- G maj scale mechanics for warmup - got to 140bpm 16th notes, I can pull off 150 bpm after few mins of 140 so I think I am where Justin ended up which makes me super happy, as he mentioned once you get there you can play most of the solos there are.
- Licks - as mentioned above, at the moment it's Sultans of Swing last solo so I am practicing my right hand mostly during this exercise and fingerpicking, PJ Garden 2 licks + lately I have added up Power Rangers theme solo, it's super fan legato which also uses right hand finger hammering on the fretboard, super lots of fun this one!
- Snow Hey Oh - still on it! For now it's 85 bpm out of 105 bpm, probably next week I am raising a bar to either 90 or 95, we will see how it goes. I hope to be able to record it in next 6 months.
- Song section - as I said I limited amount of songs I am practicing at once now, so it's just two right now - R U Mine by Arctic Monkeys and Life is a Rollercoaster by Ronan Keating. I couldn't obviously resist myself and when it's late in the evening I sometimes play around with Devil's tears by Angus and Julia Stone not to wake up my neighbours :) I think all of those songs should easily be learned by me in my 6 months timeframe.

Songs I know and work on:
- Fast Car - on a shelf for now, comfortable playing, long term goal to sing along.
- Hey there Delilah - recorded and shared, click here to check out!
- Betterman - on a shelf for now, comfortable playing, lately trying to sing along which will take some time.
- Heartbeats - (haha made me laugh to read my last update on that song :D) recorded and shared, click here to check out!
- Scar Tissue - recorded and shared, click here to check out!
- Anywhere by Passenger - recorded and shared, click here to check out!
- Blackbird - recorded and shared, click here to check out!
- Slide Goo Goo Dolls - recorded and shared, click here to check out!
- Gone PJ - on a shelf, I think I got it right but I don't think I will record it until I get a proper mic and interface.
- Gotten  - on a shelf for now, all transcribed, know how to play all bits but got bit bored for now so will revisit once I want to again.
- Wish you a Merry Christmas - competition entry, click here to check out!
- Life is a Rollercoaster - easy chord progression, getting it smooth for now plus I am trying to incorporate some small extra additions to make it more interesting.
- R U Mine - a lot of gain and fuzz on this one! Enjoying it so much, still need to work on getting solo right and some bits and pieces at the finishing line, there are some tweaks to incorporate so need some extra work.
- Devil's Tears - beautiful song, very repetitive section which once sorted out makes you able to play a whole song. For now just playing it for fun few mins a day.
- Big Me - recording ready, need to trim it and upload, probably in next few weeks.

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Re: adi_mrok's Road case
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2021, 03:59:42 pm »
You have a good plan. Its nice to break them down into short, medium and long term goals.

Good luck.

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Re: adi_mrok's Road case
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2021, 04:18:52 pm »
Great update, Adrian. Goals are well defined and sure to take up to greater levels of playing.

Look forward to updates and hearing your recordings as you go.

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Re: adi_mrok's Road case
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2021, 02:50:48 am »
What a great set of steps you've laid out to climb you to reaching your goals Adrian. I suspect there'll be some other wins and successes along the way too.

You've already achieved a lot in a short time.
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Re: adi_mrok's Road case
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2021, 12:47:41 pm »
Wow that's a great & structured approach :)
Definitely looking forward to your future posts in AVOYP / here :)
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2021, 12:55:37 pm »
Thank you all, keeping it structured helps me to keep an eye on everything and making sure I am not neglecting any of the guitar learning departments

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