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Batwoman's Road Case
« on: January 22, 2018, 03:15:00 am »
Today I ordered my custom made acoustic guitar  :)  and I'm excited!

I'm documenting this once in a lifetime experience for a few reasons. One of my reasons is to extract every drop of enjoyment out of it.

As some of you know I've been searching for a guitar for some time. Thankyou to all of those who've given me good advise  :). I thought my dream guitar was a Maton. Nah, even when I went beyond my price range. Nor did Gibson, Taylor, Martin or Takamine pass my test.

My test? When somethings really right for me it will give me goosebumps or bring tears to my eyes. The day I heard a prototype of the guitar I'm having built played, I had both goosebumps and tears. There are so many things about this project that tick the boxes for me. One of them is that Pete the luthier crafts his guitars from recycled timber.

Here's the three pieces of timber we are considering for the back and sides. The timber is silky oak (Grevillea robusta) an Australian timber. The neck and headstock and some of the inlay around the sound hole will also be silky oak. The one in the front is my fave. It was a door. Yet to be completely milled. The white stuff is paint.

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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 10:30:02 am »
Awesome, congrats Batwoman!! Keep us updated :).

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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 02:47:02 pm »
Hey Mrs B

Sounds like a really exciting project, can't wait for the updates and the finished guitar !

Cheers

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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2018, 01:08:38 am »
Very cool. Can’t wait to see the finished product!


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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2018, 01:18:47 am »
The electronics are LR Baggs Element Stage Pro Advanced Undersaddle Pickup With Side mounted preamp. I'm going to have a lot of fun learning to use this toy. My current guitar doensn't have a pick-up.

Here's the blurb from the website. "Unlike typical undersaddle acoustic guitar pickups that are dependent on string compression for their sound, the Element was engineered to mirror the soundboard’s actual movement as you play. At the heart of the pickup, a flexible film sensor only 2 thousandths of an inch thick picks up the guitar’s most delicate nuances. Tracking the motion of the top rather than a direct string attack suppresses “quack” caused by compression and unlocks the Element’s unrivaled dynamic range. The pickup’s minimalist construction lessens any influence on the acoustic properties and creates an intimate coupling between the pickup and guitar for the highest fidelity possible."

Its features:

  • Includes Element pickup
    Side mounted preamp/controls
    Master volume
    Bass, mid & treble control
    Notch filter
    Phase inversion
    Onboard tuner with mute function
    9V Battery access drawer
    Battery life indicator
    Battery life: 100+ hrs

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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 09:44:49 am »
I'm going to follow with interest.  8)

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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 02:38:45 pm »
Batwoman,

I'm thrilled for you.  I read the conversation about the Gibson and the Maton without reply.  What an experience now to have a custom guitar that raises goosebumps.

On that note, can you point us to a website or YouTube where we can hear a sample of these guitars?

You have been around since I joined the Community, offering wonderfully encouraging feedback and tips to improve, your original song and then you shared the big moment of a first public performance.  Now this to take things on to a next level.

Have fun and look forward to hearing more from you in 2018!

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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2018, 01:57:40 am »
You have been around since I joined the Community, offering wonderfully encouraging feedback and tips to improve, your original song and then you shared the big moment of a first public performance.  Now this to take things on to a next level.

Ha ha David with your 1533 posts made in just over a year I would consider you to be the Master of Feedback :) I'm not talking about the nasty kind that can come from the sound system which causes one to cover ones ears, which I've discovered is called the Larsen Effect.  You also seem to have a remarkable memory. Thankyou for your kind words and for your quality posts. Always well worth a read. Here's some of Peter's guitars. Mine will be a little like the one third from the left. It's an OM or orchestra size/shape. My fingerboard will look more like the timber in the one second from the right. It's kwila or merbau.



 
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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2018, 02:07:48 am »
I'm going to follow with interest.  8)

Thanks Close. Having the folk in this community with whom I can share this makes it all the better.
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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2018, 02:09:31 am »
Hey Mrs B

Sounds like a really exciting project, can't wait for the updates and the finished guitar !

Cheers

Toby
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Thanks Toby. It's going to be about 6 weeks before the guitar is finished. Pete plans on starting next week. I have yet to choose the timber for the soundboard. I'll be sure to get photos I can post.
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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2018, 04:55:23 am »
On that note, can you point us to a website or YouTube where we can hear a sample of these guitars?

Here y'are David.


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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2018, 06:28:26 am »
Well, so far I resisted saying anything but can’t wait any longer!!!
The Demo says it all!!!
What an amazing guitar, if the Demo is like what you’ve in for OMG, you definitely can’t go wrong with one!!!
Glued to this thread!!!

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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2018, 07:31:09 am »
Here y'are David.

Thanks for this Batwoman. 

Wow, what a wonderful sounding guitar.  I can hear the richness of the tones and its dynamic.  And boy oh boy, I wish I could sit and play just like the guy doing the review ... practice, practice, practice and I'll get more like that this year  :)

Thank you for your kind words and for your quality posts. Always well worth a read.
I appreciate that ... I strive to be has helpful and supportive as I can, to be a positive contributor to this global community.

Pete sure does produce some beautiful looking instruments.

Looking forward to the next post as your guitar comes into being ...

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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2018, 01:01:09 am »
Well, so far I resisted saying anything but can’t wait any longer!!!
The Demo says it all!!!
What an amazing guitar, if the Demo is like what you’ve in for OMG, you definitely can’t go wrong with one!!!
Glued to this thread!!!

Thanks Darrell. My guitar will be made of the same timber combo - silky oak back, sides and neck and a cedar sound board, so there's every chance she will be as good as if not better than the demo model. My guitar won't be finished with gloss either. Some folk believe that you get a better sound with a natural finish.

She won't be a Cupboard Queen that's for sure.
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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2018, 09:31:08 am »

She won't be a Cupboard Queen that's for sure.

That's a new phrase on me ... like it.
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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2018, 01:32:00 am »
That's a new phrase on me ... like it.
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Can't take credit for this it's one of Darrells.
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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2018, 02:27:50 pm »
What an incredible journey to find your guitar, it doesn't get any better than that. Very very happy for you, can hardly wait to hear you together. :)

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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2018, 06:20:29 pm »
Can't take credit for this it's one of Darrells.
Who? Me? Scoobie oobie doooooo ;)

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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2018, 02:02:20 am »
What an incredible journey to find your guitar, it doesn't get any better than that. Very very happy for you, can hardly wait to hear you together. :)

Mari

Thankyou Mari, it's all the sweeter to have folk like you with whom I can share. You might have to wait a while before you hear us play together  :D
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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2018, 03:39:04 am »
Just back from a meeting with the Pete the luthier. He has all the components ready and has bent the sides.  We had a long chat about electronics and how I would use the. He showed me all the options, plugged them in, demo-ed them. More about that in a future post.  Here's a few photos. Warning: I think I'm going to be like a mother with her first born baby .... lots and lots of photos  ;D

Front to back, Kwila fingerboard, Silky Oak sides that have been shaped (made from an old door), my gold Grover tuners, and at the back Western Red Cedar which will be the soundboard.


Close up of the sides.


Close up of the Silky Oak neck, also part of the door. The hole is where the lock was.


More of the components, front left the soundboard, back left the Silky Oak back, neck
and profile, the rest you'll figure out.


Lovely Pete the luthier.




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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2018, 07:27:36 am »
Warning: I think I'm going to be like a mother with her first born baby .... lots and lots of photos  ;D

And why not?
I think we'd be deeply disappointed if you didn't post loads of pictures.

It's exciting to see something taking shape and I will try not to be jealous!

Pete looks like a man who is happy in his work.
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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2018, 10:49:47 am »
Great to see things happening, yes please post plenty of photos - it’s great to see this sort of thing!
The birth of your new guitar is really going to be something special to you and all of us who are champing at the bit in anticipation!!!
I’ve been following someone who’s building their own guitar and done a series on YT documenting it, it’s a bit long winded but she goes through every single detail comprehensively showing all of the things that can happen. It’s a fascinating watch if you’ve got the time!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNZrIoijCmgEi15FSreYERMvcsw49USjL

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Re: Batwoman's Road Case
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2018, 11:10:58 am »
Keep them coming - pics and updates.  :)

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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2018, 01:03:48 pm »
Agreed, the more pics the better. It's fun to follow along in this story. Especially for somebody like me, who loves these instruments but knows absolutely nothing about how they are actually made. How fun for you to be going thru this process, Batwoman!
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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2018, 03:35:27 am »
Thankyou lovely guitarists and musicians for indulging me. More photos? Oh yeah happy to oblige  :)

Here's the back, with the Tasmanian Oak pieces resting on it. They will be inlaid between the silky oak and the cedar.  It's an OM (orchestra) model.


Pete cuts his kerfeling by hand.


Some detail about the electronics. One of the fantastic things about Pete is that he spends a lot of time asking his clients about their music, their style, where they want to go etc. I was going to have this put into my guitar. I didn't know any better or that there were other options.


He'd been thinking about what I'd told him and suggested it would be good to look at other options. What Pete walked me through yesterday, complete with plugged in demo's, was the range of electronics available and what suited me better. I doubt I'll ever play in public more than a few times a year. That will be Open Mics etc, where there will be a desk (I think that's the right word?) and a sound tech. So I don't need this super duper thing.

I've never liked the look of them, and Pete showed me how they sit inside the guitar. He also explained how they affect the sound of an unplugged acoustic, which is how I'll be playing most of the time. I don't want a big, rectangular hole cut in the side of my guitar either. I love looking at the wood.

He was so thorough, won't go into detail of all he demo-ed, but what I've chosen is this. I like its minimalism, and that the only hole cut is the small hole in the base for the jack input (right name?) If I want to I can buy an external pre-amp. Really happy he talked me through this. He also said that if my use/needs change and I want the black one, he can do that.


Here's how it sits inside the guitar. Picture from the internet.


That's today's instalment.



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