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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2017, 04:56:05 am »
@embishop sure, I’ll see you there ;)

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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2017, 06:56:05 am »
Remember there is the ‘Challenges’ section.
Maybe try and resurrect some of the threads in there.

Get stuck in - there are already several threads with great backing tracks to improv over ...


Two as per the October comp ...
A minor blues
https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=16788.0
G Major
https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=42429.0

C major / A minor country-ish style
https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=40208.0

Swamp jam in E
https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=37002.0

Slow country G major / E minor
https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=37076.0

Mellow in C major
https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=37285.0

Laid back blues in A minor
https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=37542.0


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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2017, 07:54:20 am »
Ooooo thanks for posting those, just the job for the next dunno how long!!!
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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2017, 09:13:29 am »
Sounds really good, I hear your difference between melody and solo for sure. I didn't particularly notice a different rhythm and in fact the part I like best is right after that at 40 - :45 and then continuing on for a bit. Anyway, I enjoyed it a lot.

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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2017, 08:10:22 pm »
Hey Joe Where you going wit that ...................... ok Jesper boy you've had me thinking about this since your initial post.

First off love what you have done over the BT. Sounded really good to me. I've listened a few times and reread a few time that first post.

Problem is there's a bit of a dilemma. It's kinda why I struggle with posting an entry to start with. When you're asked to do an solo/impro, what approach do you take. As you say the classic solo is relatively short, may occur along side a verse or chorus but more often or not fills a bridge. Then you take some classic "solos" like Stairway To Heaven or Freebird which take over a long long long outro. Which I luuurvv, but then you get the opposite with really long intros. Wow where does it all stop.

But how do you differentiate from a solo to an instrumental ? When presented with a backing track with no vocals, verse or chorus, there's no natural place for that solo to fall but you've been asked to jam over the top of it ! So it turns into an instrumental. The today I was listened to some ACDC while out for a run and Brian's chirping away, Malcolm's giving it large and providing the engine and Angus, well he's walking all over the lot, constantly !! And it works, no different from when he just chips in now and then, as your vision of a solo.

So just like human communication, when presented with silence, we seek to fill the void. That's when we move on from your classic view of a 12 - 16 bar solo, to for example my trampling all over that BT as nothing else was going on. Guess at the end of the day its down to the old adage Justin keeps banging on about, IF IT SOUNDS GOOD IT IS GOOD.

We are all different but are all the same. There's no right or wrong, what is is. If your ears are happy you're happy but yes there's a whole lotta carp out there in the music world but that just my opinion.

So play it long play it short, whatever floats your boat. Some will sound good some bad some will just sound. But at the end of the day play and go with the flow, wherever it takes you.

My 2 cents - do they have solos in Country ?  ;)

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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2017, 09:00:06 pm »
@tobyjenner wise words. The mistakes you do while playing will be avoided next time. Bit by bit, you eliminate them all. As you said, there is no right or wrong in the way you improvise, be it short or long.

I’m reading an article about Consonance and Dissonance, really interesting. Music is about resolving to correct notes on chords changing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonance_and_dissonance

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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2017, 08:06:20 am »
Toby, thank you for your kind words on my solo. It wasn't really thought through, but I needed to get it done.

I like your thoughts on the matter, and we are pretty much aligned on the differentiation from solo to instrumental piece.
In my mind an instrumental piece does the same as a song with a singer, a solo part and what have you. In this arrangement the guitar plays a melody line and at some point it breaks off to do a solo. After the solo break it returns to the melody line.
A couple of references here are Steve Vai, Joe Satriani and from the older days you have The Shadows. All good stuff in its own rights, but I get so very bored very quickly.

On your thoughts on AC/DC, Skynyrd and Led Zep, back in the days of Skynyrd and Zep were the golden era of guitar xx--xx and you would have those extreme solos which also were great. But move it up ten years or so you sort of tame the lead guitarist who has now learned to fit in with the band and play together with the rest. I like that a lot. I like that the lyrics carries the tune and the piano/guitar/sax does fills and solos. This is usually for 8, 12 or 16 bars.

My 2 cents - do they have solos in Country ?  ;)

Oh boy! There are some mean players in that segment! But you have to realize that Country is as broad a genre as jazz, rock and pop.
Here are a few clips to give you a feel:

On the bluesy side of Country: Brad Paisley, solo starts at 1:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_NyQ5N0ntM

Rocky side of Country: Blackberry Smoke, Pretty little lie, 2:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56XKfwTO1vM

A classic Country tune: Here Johnny Hiland sits in and damn..... That's country pickin' for ya!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc-A8ygO5eU

Johnny Hiland again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYVwYN8mmYw

And there are so many more....
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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2017, 05:09:20 pm »
Joe you left out the rap side of country.

https://youtu.be/WDxSgq88Clw

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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2017, 06:24:50 pm »
Joe you left out the rap side of country.

Haha! Yes, I did forget about that. Perhaps on purpose...
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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2017, 06:53:03 pm »
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Re: Soloing over Justins G Major backing track
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2017, 07:41:24 pm »

I know I know ! I was only pulling you leg.  ;)

I kinda knew that, but a good excuse to pull out a few videos.
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