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Re: David P's Road Case
« Reply #250 on: September 25, 2021, 10:24:12 am »
Just one word David..
Wow.
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I don't do one word, Richard  :o 😂

Thank you, from first post to last, you've been like a second teacher for me, always encouraging and helping me to keep on improving. 🙏

As have so many other Forum Regulars, to whom I am always ever so grateful and appreciative. Too many to name, too easy to make unintentional hurtful omissions.

Justin's programmes and lessons plus The Forum ... undoubtedly one of the finest means to learn to play and grow as a musician.
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Re: David P's Road Case
« Reply #251 on: September 25, 2021, 11:14:38 am »
Great post David, what a fantastic journey (so far).

You are so right, Justin’s course with the support of this forum is a great way to progress.

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« Reply #252 on: September 26, 2021, 06:09:35 pm »
That is an impressive portfolio sir and I would like to think inspirational to anyone who drops by. You have achieved a great deal in a relatively short time but have provided support and encouragement to others, as you ploughed your own journey. I am sure there will be a lot more to come but thank you for taking stock and providing a window for others to see what can be done, with hard work and dedication.

I can say hats off again, as they all returned to terra firma not long after the Larsen Circus left town.

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« Reply #253 on: September 26, 2021, 06:27:07 pm »
Wow what a list David, probably took you a whole week to write this down, would take you another 6 to get all the links together! I had a go at few first links to see how much you improved and I must say you did hell of a step forward in youe music journey! Always keen to see how your story will continue further, keep at it David!

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« Reply #254 on: September 29, 2021, 06:43:04 am »
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated

@Rod ... guitar and music is now such a meaningful part of my life, including the Forum. It's been a blessing, all the more so in these pandemic times

@Toby ... with the right mindset and approach I think we can all make progress. And I think taking stock is important, so easy to get overly focused on the road ahead and forget where you've come from.

@Adrian ... LOL ... I can't lie, it took a while to curate all the songs and upload to Google Drive and set up all the links. And then all the sidetracks, so I dabbled and nibbled for a while before finally posting. Appreciate your extra mile effort to listen to some of the early recordings. For me the primary goal is just to keep improving, however slowly. Keep doing that and eventually one will reach an OK level.
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Re: David P's Road Case
« Reply #255 on: September 29, 2021, 08:11:19 am »
... just to keep improving, however slowly. Keep doing that and eventually one will reach an OK level.

Perhaps even mediocre! haha  ;) ;)

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« Reply #256 on: September 29, 2021, 02:34:48 pm »
Perhaps even mediocre! haha  ;) ;)

LOL indeed Richard. I watch Clint as a yardstick of working towards mediocre (as he always says) and based on that mediocre may be beyond me.
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« Reply #257 on: September 29, 2021, 11:19:57 pm »
I really enjoyed reading this, David. I feel like in a way I’ve been on this ride along with you, as I believe we joined the forum around the same time. You’ve improved so much. Keep it up!


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« Reply #258 on: September 30, 2021, 05:53:47 am »
I really enjoyed reading this, David. I feel like in a way I’ve been on this ride along with you, as I believe we joined the forum around the same time. You’ve improved so much. Keep it up!

Thanks Tosh, glad you enjoyed it and appreciate recognition of progress. I know what you mean about being on the ride with other folk. It is encouraging to be taking the ride with friends, observing each other to be improving, as indeed I've observed your growth over time.
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Re: David P's Road Case
« Reply #259 on: September 30, 2021, 01:21:54 pm »
A great read David, thanks for sharing.

So I take it that playing a 12 string is the same as a 6 string but you just have to hold down 2 strings instead of one?  :)
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« Reply #260 on: September 30, 2021, 03:01:05 pm »
A great read David, thanks for sharing.

So I take it that playing a 12 string is the same as a 6 string but you just have to hold down 2 strings instead of one?  :)

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it, Stefan.

That's correct on the 12 string. The tuning on some of the strings is different, an octave apart, which is what gives the guitar it's characteristic sound.  Apart from the holding down of the notes, I think picking can be a little more tricky as well.

If you did read my full Road Case (that's dedication above and beyond) then you'll know I only had a 12 string for a short while. It just didn't sound wonderful to me, not what I imagined and remembered from my student days when a friend had a beautiful 12 string that sounded magnificent. Perhaps that is the years deceiving me but also I think the guitar had a maple body that tends to be a brighter sound and I have now learned I am more a fan of a rosewood guitar which has a darker, warmer sound.
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« Reply #261 on: September 30, 2021, 04:38:49 pm »
I had never experienced the sound of a 12 string or indeed seen anyone play it until one of our most recent Open Mics. My band colleagues compared it to a visit to the local pub in Royston Vasey (if you don't know where that is you'll need to google it). It was indeed quite a strange affair...a very very small playing space..in a pub miles from anywhere (you can see our performance their on YT). All local people who knew each other and had played together many times...everyone almost north of 60 and almost each and every one of them played a 12 string acoustic. Undoubtedly one had started and the others had followed...we were indeed a bit of oddity bringing electric to this corner of deep dark Monmouthshire....that said we had a great time, they were all very welcoming and I think a few appreciated the change in genre/songs and decade of music..well they asked if we'd come back anyway...and sure enough there were lots of 12 strings again!

I should have course have said that I was might impressed by your back catalogue..it's a extremely interesting walk through your recent history on guitar...I have to admit I culled quite a lot of my soundcloud when I started to run out of space but I did keep some earlier stuff there just so I remember how it started. Great to look back as you say.
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Re: David P's Road Case
« Reply #262 on: September 30, 2021, 04:56:29 pm »
David, you just didn’t have the right 12 string; take a look at this one but be prepared for a sharp intake of breath when you see the price!!!
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« Reply #263 on: October 01, 2021, 08:07:05 am »
I did read it all. You were going to sell your 12 string and your 6 string to buy another guitar but you didn't you just bought the new one anyway. Now that's rock and roll. ;D They do say that childhood (I know not strictly childhood) is filled with a million false memories.

That's for explaining the 12 string. So even if you are picking do you still play 2 strings together? I've never had the pleasure of trying one but then I struggle with 6 strings at the moment, so maybe that's something for the future.
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« Reply #264 on: October 01, 2021, 08:30:27 am »
Yes you do play the two strings together, they are very close together so it’s not that much of a problem but it’s definitely more difficult to play - take a look at this.
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« Reply #265 on: October 01, 2021, 09:57:05 am »
Thanks for that video David.

A nice looking guitar. I thought the 12 strings gave it a bit of an overdubbed sound.
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« Reply #266 on: October 01, 2021, 10:51:17 am »
And in the end I did sell the 12 string, Stefan. I took the money and bought an amp  ;D  GAS is real  ;D

Darrell added more on the playing of 12 strings, nothing more for me to say.

@Darrell, thanks for the videos
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« Reply #267 on: October 01, 2021, 12:25:43 pm »
Tell me about it. I've posted a "buying a new guitar" thread already  ;D

Oops, sorry David and Darrell. Yes, thank you Darrell for posting that. That's what I get for reading at work.  ::)
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« Reply #268 on: October 07, 2021, 01:22:17 am »
David, that's an impressive repertoire! So far, I've listened to Chocolate Jesus and Wish You Were Here because they're two of the songs I'm working on. Thanks for the inspiration. I'll be revisiting to listen to more.

As for 12-string, it's a challenging instrument that takes lots of practice & patience, and may not be everyone's cup of tea. Good action & tone are critical. Also, because the neck is wider and string tension is greater, it requires plenty of finger stretching & strength, but a good instrument will reward your efforts.
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« Reply #269 on: October 07, 2021, 04:40:50 am »
David, that's an impressive repertoire! So far, I've listened to Chocolate Jesus and Wish You Were Here because they're two of the songs I'm working on. Thanks for the inspiration. I'll be revisiting to listen to more.

As for 12-string, it's a challenging instrument that takes lots of practice & patience, and may not be everyone's cup of tea. Good action & tone are critical. Also, because the neck is wider and string tension is greater, it requires plenty of finger stretching & strength, but a good instrument will reward your efforts.

Thanks Twin Six. Rather than a repertoire I'd say this represents steps along the way. In this year I think I have started to develop a repertoire and will post more about this soon. I too will come back to Wish You Were Here at some point to have another go and add it to my repertoire.

And my intention in posting is to show what can be achieved, how one can progress if one sticks at it.  I think I am an example of slow and steady leads to progress. So if you've found it inspiring then mission accomplished.

As for the 12 string ... I think you are right. And who knows, maybe one day I'll get another.
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« Reply #270 on: October 25, 2021, 07:11:23 pm »
David, that's an impressive repertoire! So far, I've listened to Chocolate Jesus and Wish You Were Here because they're two of the songs I'm working on. Thanks for the inspiration. I'll be revisiting to listen to more.

As for 12-string, it's a challenging instrument that takes lots of practice & patience, and may not be everyone's cup of tea. Good action & tone are critical. Also, because the neck is wider and string tension is greater, it requires plenty of finger stretching & strength, but a good instrument will reward your efforts.
^ This.  I have been practicing almost exclusively on my 12 string for the past few months.  I just love the sound and in a masochistic sort of way the added challenge playing the 12 adds.  It forces me to work on my grip strength, finger placement and accuracy of picking so much more than my Gretsch.  I'm sure I'll get back to the Gretsch at some point but I'm hopeful focusing on the 12 will improve my overall playing.  That's part (a small part) of why my progress has slowed.
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« Reply #271 on: October 26, 2021, 06:48:21 am »
^ This.  I have been practicing almost exclusively on my 12 string for the past few months.  I just love the sound and in a masochistic sort of way the added challenge playing the 12 adds.  It forces me to work on my grip strength, finger placement and accuracy of picking so much more than my Gretsch.  I'm sure I'll get back to the Gretsch at some point but I'm hopeful focusing on the 12 will improve my overall playing.  That's part (a small part) of why my progress has slowed.

Good to hear from you, Joe. I'm sure the effort to improve your technique on the 12 will pay off all round. Look forward to a RC update and recording from you down the line.
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« Reply #272 on: October 26, 2021, 07:23:22 pm »
Great achievement and progress David.

I totally agree with you about how important it is to record yourself from the start even if you don't want to share it. It will reveal your errors and improve your practice sessions. But most importantly it will give you a boost of confidence and a feeling of great accomplishment (also a few giggles and cringes) when you look back on your journey. For those who haven't done it yet and are thinking about it, take the plunge, after a few recordings the nerves start to take a backseat and soon enough you are releasing more quality stuff.  And then share it. I released my first video after 4 weeks of lessons.. I shared it here, and got some good feedback... I still remember the feeling of joy and pride after receiving such accolades.
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« Reply #273 on: October 27, 2021, 06:19:27 am »
Great achievement and progress David.

I totally agree with you about how important it is to record yourself from the start even if you don't want to share it. It will reveal your errors and improve your practice sessions. But most importantly it will give you a boost of confidence and a feeling of great accomplishment (also a few giggles and cringes) when you look back on your journey. For those who haven't done it yet and are thinking about it, take the plunge, after a few recordings the nerves start to take a backseat and soon enough you are releasing more quality stuff.  And then share it. I released my first video after 4 weeks of lessons.. I shared it here, and got some good feedback... I still remember the feeling of joy and pride after receiving such accolades.

Thanks Sandra. Very useful to have those early recordings for those moments when you feel frustrated about progress. Looking back to early recordings reminds me of the progress made whenever I feel I am getting nowhere fast with what I am working towards.

As for cringing ... yup, I know that feeling.  When I listen to earlier recordings and my singing.  As my brother tells me ... just there to add words over the music, rather than singing with a guitar accompaniment. I can hear my own improvement now and who knows, maybe in a few years time I'll be looking back again and repeating the cycle.
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« Reply #274 on: October 31, 2021, 06:31:19 am »
#25 Three Types of Songs

Justin posted the video "3 Types of Songs You Should Practice (To Play Guitar Better)" in August 2021. It recommends an approach to learning and improving based on working concurrently on three types of songs:

Campfire - Songs that you can play (and sing if that's your thing) from memory
Developers - Songs that you are working on as part of practice to develop technique and ability
Dreamers - Songs you want to play in the future, likely above your current play-grade

If you've not watched the video, I'd recommend it.

In this year I've made unexpected progress developing my Campfire Repertoire. I can't put my finger on any particular reason but I've found myself able to memorise lyrics more easily and effectively, and am markedly more comfortable to perform from memory. Perhaps it is just more playing years behind me or maybe my playing has become more on autopilot, freeing up mental capacity to focus on lyrics and singing.

The repertoire now includes 12 songs. The trick is to keep them all fresh. Ideally I would like to be able to play all 12 on any given day if asked to play a set rather than just one song. Within this set, my ability to play flub-free varies. My aim is to reach a level where flubs become more rare and less obvious to a listener.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and I was able to enjoy performing a 4 song set at a local mic a couple of days ago at short notice. You can check out an audio-only recording of that performance here.

While Justin has a sub-category of Campfire songs, I have two types of Developer songs.

The first are songs as Justin defines the category. Currently in that category is Neil Young's Only Love Can Break Your Heart, another great song from Neil off the After The Goldrush album. Firstly, it includes a G7 chord. I struggled with the stretchiness of G7 when taking the Beginner Course, now I can make the chord. Secondly, it requires a change from G to G7, which is achieved by playing a two finger G (ring finger 3rd fret 6th string, pinky 3rd fret 1st string). This is my first time working on this and as is to be expected, the pinky was initially not cooperative.

The second are songs I am working at adding to the Campfire Repertoire. These are songs that I can play and sing with the song sheet in front of me. Just a matter of memorisation and practice to reach a performance consistency so as to be comfortable to play live. Currently I'm working on Deep Purple's Wasted Sunsets. Then perhaps Bad Moon Rising, JC's version of Hurt.  I am not short of options.

Like everybody I have songs in the Dreamer category.  I'll just trot out a few as I sit here: Needle And the Damage Done, Powderfinger, Norwegian Wood, One ... I'll stop there. Right now I practice the chord progression for One periodically, the strumming pattern from Justin's Songbook. And one day I'll be able to sing the song at the same time ... boy, I find the phrasing tricky over the strumming pattern. The beauty of this adventure is that with time, learning, and practice dreams do come true  ;D

It has taken me nearly five years to reach this point. I have watched others here achieve more in less time (I applaud and celebrate with them) and seen others begin and lose motivation as progress perhaps fails to meet expectation. Learning to play and sing is a joy for me, not a race nor a competition, not a quest to achieve specific time-based goals. So if you are dreaming, then take it one step at a time, at your own pace, and you can make those dreams come true. 



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#24 Biennial (The SoundCloud Years)
#23 About the 3Ps: Practicing Playing Performing
#22 Funny how it goes, just going as it flows
#21 My 4th JGversary
#20 5000th Forum post and 4 keys to learning
#19 My 3rd JGversary
#18 First Open Mic and setting up the music room
#17 My 2nd JGversary
#16 First live performance
#15 First two originals and winning the Forum Contest
#14 18 month update
#13 My 1st JGversary
#12 Going beyond my dreams
#11 September songs and success
#10 RC up to date, 8.5 month reflection
#9 A severe attack of GAS
#8 It’s not a linear journey
#7 Consolidation, Forum Contest, and BC Stage 4
#6 The onset of GAS
#5 Joining the Community and my first recordings
#4 Playing where other people were around
#3 Beginning Justin’s BC
#2 Starting the guitar adventure
#1 Discovering a love of music
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