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D5 or Dsus2 - Help with Hollis Brown required
« on: January 05, 2016, 07:05:49 pm »
Friends, Romans, forum members lend me your ears  ;D

Started learning this at the weekend and picked it up surprisingly quickly but as my ears are still not adept to picking up the nuances between similar chords, I thought I'd reach out to the experts.

First thing the capo is on the first fret so I'm talking shapes here, so apologies for not transposing to the actual chord.

There's are repetitive bass bass strum pattern to this song but I can't make out if the strum is being played as an open D string power chord (D5) or if the e string is being played as well making it Dsus2. Shapes.

Around 1:40 the non talking tutor switches from the fingering to the picking and from what I can tell he's only playing string 4 3 2 on the strummed chord but I'm hearing a high F which could be my imagination.





Just wondered what the experts are hearing or if anyone plays the 1964 tale of happiness is it D5 or sus2 or if it frigging matters anyway  ???

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Re: D5 or Dsus2 - Help with Hollis Brown required
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2016, 08:18:00 pm »
I do not hear the 'open' note on the high E string (F withe the capo).  I think he is playing D5.

I just sat and played only the 'open' (F) note everytime the strum happened and it sounded sour to me...

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Re: D5 or Dsus2 - Help with Hollis Brown required
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2016, 08:53:25 pm »
I'm not a Dylan fan so I could be way off base here. But I always thought Hollis Brown
was in a Double Drop D tuning. So I looked it up and here's what I found.
In DDD you would play the high e open to get a drone sound.

http://dylanchords.info/03_times/ballad_of_hollis_brown.htm


In the video it does sound tuned down.



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Re: D5 or Dsus2 - Help with Hollis Brown required
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2016, 09:02:45 pm »
Just watched the video you posted on youtube so I could read any note left by the guy in the video.
Here's what he noted.
Capo 1

e---------------------------------------­------------
b--------------3------------------3-----­-----------
g--------------2------------------2-----­-----------
d--------0----0-------3----0----0-------­---------
a---3-----------------------------------­------------
E---------------------------------------­------------ PLAY 2 TIMES

e---------------------------/-----------­--------------------------
b--------3--------------3--/---------3--­--------3-----------3--
g--------2--------------2--/---------0--­--------0-----------2--
d---0---0----------0---0--/-------------­--------------0----0--
a--------------3------------/---3-------­---2--------------------
E---------------------------------------­-------------------------

Here's my take
He's not playing either E string.
If you tune down to a DDD you would play the E strings when needed.
When playing the D chord 0230 When playing the open D string play the open bass E(D) instead sometimes.

Edited to fix the D chord I had 0320 and try and make my post make more sense.

« Last Edit: January 05, 2016, 09:58:45 pm by stitch101 »

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Re: D5 or Dsus2 - Help with Hollis Brown required
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2016, 09:45:34 pm »
Imma just pretend there ain't no capo. 

So it is a D5.  If you want to hit the open high E string you tune down to D and get another root on top, the same pitch as the fretted second string.

Just makin' sure I am following...

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Re: D5 or Dsus2 - Help with Hollis Brown required
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2016, 10:01:47 pm »
I screwed up my previous post Shadow. I edited it. Hope it makes more sense.

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Re: D5 or Dsus2 - Help with Hollis Brown required
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 08:07:56 pm »
Guys

Thanks very much for the help as it sounds much better now I'm muting the e string. And cheers Stitch for putting the tab up, as it showed me where I was lashing up the walk down pick strums at the end of the section - I was keeping the 'D5' down and couldn't work how to finger the B note as my index was already engaged. With the open G string it made sense and actually sounds much better.

This has been a bit of a challenge for me as its a bit off track from the more vanilla 1/8 and 1/16 strumming I'm doing in the IM but its something I always wanted to play. Didn't think I'd be able too as it sounded more complex, although I know there's a lot more fancy stuff going on with the strumming and twiddly bridge bit about 2/3rd thru. But so far so good.  ;D

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Re: D5 or Dsus2 - Help with Hollis Brown required
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2021, 12:45:38 pm »
NOTE - OLD POST RESURRECTED AS I NEED TO EXTRACT THE REPLIES.

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