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Offline Rossco01

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Summer of 69
« on: March 26, 2015, 09:17:55 pm »
So powerchords are ace! and so is a bit of overdrive! really enjoying my electric guitar at the moment.

So I posted a really early recording of summer of 69 a couple of weeks ago tagged onto the back of my Polly thread. I've posted the original below and then two further recordings I've done tonight.The chords are starting to flow better now but I need to get the set-up right. Love the Humbucker for the verses but it gets a bit muddy on the choruses. The second is with the middle pickup and humbucker which makes it a bit cleaner but still need to do further work.

Just started to add a bit of vocal to this as well but needs more work before recording. I'll keep the thread going as I make progress.

Original Take - https://soundcloud.com/rossco01/summer-of-69-first-recording-guitar-only
   
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Latest Take - Humbucker and Middle Pickup >> https://soundcloud.com/rossco01/summer-of-69-middlehumbucker-pickup
   
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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2015, 09:29:17 pm »
Hi Rossco.

You can hear the progress being made, both in the playing and in finding the tone you are after.
You could perhaps get rid of some mud by lowering the mids a little to get a more scooped sound - not too much unless you want that thrash metal sound, and perhaps just ease the gain back some. I don't know if you have a gain and a volume knob on your amp, but if you do you could try lowering the gain and raising the volume. Might even just be a case of rolling off some volume on the guitar - instead of playing at 10, play at 8. One thing's for sure - we never seem to be happy with our tone.

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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2015, 09:37:21 pm »
Cheers digger.. The fender mustang has the lot so I'll give your suggestions a try. Been playing along to a live version and the sound is getting closer.
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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2015, 11:10:58 pm »
You'll need to add some palm muting to get that punch/chunk sound in the intro and verses. That's gives you the staccato sound. I play this on an LPs bridge pickup with a bit of the tone rolled off and as much gain as I need to keep the open chords that are used, cleanish.

This is a good tute on the muting. You can play it with power chords or an open Dsus2 and A.





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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2015, 12:54:42 am »
Hi,
I am more or less working on the same things (and more) as you are. I have to agree with the others. I kind of like a little growl and some nice bright upper tones all rolled into one and that is not an easy tone to nail right off the bat. On your "Latest Take - Humbucker and Middle Pickup" track I think at times it has a good tone but at others it needs maybe a tad cleaner/brighter mid to high end tone. Those suggesting less gain on that and more master volume would seem to me to be on the money. Also the palm muting is ultra important. Gosh I have not played much electric for a while and when I got a new Fender Blues Jr amp and put a Gibson SG through it I was amazed at how alive the guitar became. Every nuance and "mistake" were magnified. Thus when you palm it, a lot of the "extra" "noise" suddenly drops off leaving more of a clean sound. On power chords they will have a bit more thump to them.

EDIT: I forgot to add one more thing... Not only does less gain (on the input/preamp) help clean things up but you may have also noticed if you have your guitar volume Knob(s) up all the way it will induce distortion. If you cut those back to say, 7 or 8 (varies by guitar and pickup) it should clean things up in a hurry. Any volume needed would then be added back in via the master volume on the amp. Hope this helps. I see Digger mentioned this as well, hopefully this adds more detail to that!

Good job and keep up the vibe,
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« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 07:56:27 am by LBro »
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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2015, 07:56:41 am »
Thanks Drubbing and LBro hadn't come across the palm muting tip...not something I'm the best at but another technique to continue to develop.

Cheers for the suggestions on the amp settings as well will have a play over the weekend to see if I can get the tone better. Undoubtedly a bit more finesse on the playing would help as much as the guitar/amp settings..will continue to post progress.
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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 08:01:09 am »
@Drubbing just watched the vid and really good. Will try and apply some of it over the weekend.
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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2015, 05:02:37 pm »
Coming along nicely Rossco. 
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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2015, 05:40:52 pm »
Rossco,
That video indeed is a good one...

Also realize that the power chord is likely to be played on only the 2-3 low strings. In addition to the video, Justin has a couple lessons on this. If you have not seen them then do take a look. The first lesson he does on this talks about muting, how important it is and that the thinnest strings are muted out so that the chord is not as muddy. Here is a link to that lesson:
http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-172-G5-powerchord.php

I am working on getting tone(s) out of my amp & signal chain right now. One would not think 16 knobs would be so hard to adjust, but darn there is more to it than meets the ear.

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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2015, 06:46:45 pm »
cheers lbro im okay on the powerchirds bit and muting thinnest strings. The stuff im doing now is all about BC consolidation hence focusing on PCs, finger picking, blues etc in the songs area.  Starting to get a real feel feel for moving around the neck with PCs now. Its also helping where Im starting to practice e shaped barre chords. Palm muting is trickier although had a go this morning and it wasnt too bad. I dialled down the gain a little on my settings and I think Im about there with what I need...playing on the humbucker with an overdrive effect applied I get some nice crunch on the verses and it cleans up on the open chords on the chorus.
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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2015, 07:24:20 pm »
Hey Rossco taken me a while to get round to this one, as I've been a bit distracted.

Sounds like the PCs are coming along nicely and that you're having fun monkeying around with your amp. Takes a while to find that tone you're after but loads of fun searching 8)
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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2015, 08:39:00 pm »
Nice effort, and also a good song choice. I love jamming this tune.

As others have said, focus on getting that palm muted rhythm down in the verses as it really makes the song. Should be a good opportunity to practice your technique!


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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2015, 10:21:14 pm »
Cheers toby and Mike. Yeah definitely enjoying this one. Started to practice the verses base on the vid from drubbing... im nowhere near it yet but gettung there. Will try and re record where I am this week.
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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2015, 12:49:34 pm »
Nice one Rossco!

I just love hearing that Pacifica beeing used for what's intended: "Rock'n roll!"

I'd bet, you had a lot of fun learning this one ;)

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Re: Summer of 69
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2015, 10:24:26 pm »
Cheers DeConne. Definitely enjoying the Pacifica and Amp at the moment.

I did another quick recording tonight mainly as I've tried get the verses more right than they were taking on board the comments about palm muting (which I have to admit I'm still not sure I'm doing right). Still needs a fair bit of practice as none of it feels quite smooth at the moment but I think it sounds better than previous version.

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