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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #100 on: December 11, 2014, 03:05:12 am »
@ Numbnuts

Good job here. We are about the same as I am about 5 weeks into the program. Interestingly, I am now going back and starting to record songs from the first few weeks before I move on any more. I think it will help me get to where I need to be with my chord changes. Keep up the good work.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #101 on: December 11, 2014, 03:06:39 am »
@ close2u
Thanks for the comments. I appreciate it. It's great that this forum is so supportive and helpful.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #102 on: December 11, 2014, 06:36:39 am »
@ Numbnuts
Looking forward to more (from a fellow Teessider) as you follow the structure of the BC.
Your first recording shows lots of potential with chord changes and rhythm all coming along.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #103 on: December 11, 2014, 06:45:21 am »
@close2u Thanks mate. I managed to "escape" the Boro in 2007 and fled to the land down under, been in Melbourne ever since. I haven't been back at all since I left, weirdly. Didn't intend not to come back to visit, but time has just sort of gotten away. I do miss the place, (30 years on the same estate Marton/Nunthorpe).

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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #104 on: December 11, 2014, 08:19:18 am »
@Numbnuts good start to "What's going on" . It's got a pretty tricky strumming pattern as I recollect and this one took me ages to get anywhere half decent (let alone add singing) so a big +1 for getting this one down. Probably just need to get the timing more even (use a metronome or tap the foot) and the strumming a little tighter. I'd carry on practicing this until the rhythm is absolutely second nature THEN try adding some vocal to it.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #105 on: December 11, 2014, 01:07:17 pm »
I'm pretty sure I was better when I didn't record the song
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #106 on: December 11, 2014, 03:49:14 pm »
I've worked my way all the way up to Stage 5, but realized I haven't done a good enough job of playing songs in each section. Since I posted Three Little Birds a couple days ago I decided I will continue recording one song from each of the other stages (2,3,4,5) -- then I will move on.

Stage 2 recording here (Wild Thing). I feel like it doesn't sound as good as it could have. I was being a little quiet on the electric on purpose. My kids were asleep and unfortunately my guitar and amp are right across the hall from them. haha. I have a hard time with that G6 chord and then putting down the A chord. Fingers just don't come down in a perfect A chord every time. Oh well, something to work on, I suppose.

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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #107 on: December 11, 2014, 08:14:51 pm »
Nice work Rolandson & phx1973.

@phx1973 - I'm with you mate, I'm up to stage 4 but haven't bothered too much with any of the songs aside from a bit of What's Up, so I'm also going back to the start and will record one or two from each stage before I move on.

I struggled with 3 Little Birds last night mind, I seem to find slower tempo, all down strum harder than a faster tempo strum timing wise. I seem to drift off mid way through and then my timing goes to pot.

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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #108 on: December 11, 2014, 09:03:29 pm »
@Numbnuts

Re: Three Little Birds. You mentioned having difficulty with tempo. You might try using a metronome if you haven't yet. As I said in my original recording, I was shocked at how slow I sounded. BPM of about 76 seems about right, which is way faster than felt natural to me at first. Just a suggestion.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #109 on: December 11, 2014, 09:20:39 pm »
@phx1973 thanks bud, definitely going to start with the metronome. I've some spare time this weekend so going to set up my stall properly, I grabbed a music stand and I'll commandeer some space in the spare bedroom so I can get set up a bit better. Back to the first lessons then, work back through them again with metronome, foot tapping and do the ear training before I move on to the next stages. I have sneaked forward a little, just to get a jump start on my F barre, other than that I want to get the early beginner lessons nailed with some of their corresponding songs before moving on.

A buddy is coming over tonight, he's a guitar genius. When he leaves I'll either be even more inspired and motivated to progress, or feel totally inadequate and chuck the acoustic on the fire. We'll see what happens, (I'm tipping inspiration).

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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #110 on: December 12, 2014, 01:58:46 am »
Stage 3 - Mad World.

   
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #111 on: December 12, 2014, 08:21:11 am »
Good one Phx1973. Had a listen to all of your tracks today and thought you show good progress. Personally I think getting three or fours songs under the belt from the BSB is key to getting some good progress. It's also a lot more fun.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #112 on: December 12, 2014, 10:29:42 am »
Hey guys!

I listened to most of your songs! I can't follow, commenting on every single track here.

Just wanted to say you're doing great! Keep recording, keep practicing, keep sharing!

Before you know it you'll be tackling Hendrix solo's ;)

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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #113 on: December 13, 2014, 05:21:04 pm »
@ de_conne

Thanks! I must say these forums, particularly this thread, have really complemented my learning progress in Justin's Beginners Course. I have found cases in which I thought I knew the song well enough for a particular stage. But after recording it I realized I wasn't happy and need to keep working. It is making the course take longer but will be beneficial to my playing in the end.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #114 on: December 13, 2014, 06:51:35 pm »
Haven't been in this thread nearly enough lately.  You guys are progressing nicely!

@ Numbnuts 

Very nice on What's Going On.  Your small head start on playing shows here, nothing wrong with that. Look forward to hearing this when you get your vocal and playing together in synch.

@ rolandson

Showing more progress on a hard to play California Dreaming.  Keep at it, it's getting there.

Phx1973

Nice sound coming from your guitar too.  It is a good decision by you to start recording songs at each level.  It is not only fun but a good teacher too.  Don't worry about how long it takes to get through BC.  The foundation is the important thing.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #115 on: December 13, 2014, 08:15:42 pm »
I will definitely take that advise. Thanks Sweed.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #116 on: December 14, 2014, 12:50:33 pm »
Sorry about the crappy recording, but here's an attempt at playing along with this years love:
   
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #117 on: December 14, 2014, 10:32:41 pm »
I'm pretty sure I was better when I didn't record the song

It's weird how that happens, huh? Nervous?

@numbnuts- good job!


@phx1973- Also a good job. I especially like wild thing. I have actually had a hard time getting motivated to practice any of the songs in Stage 2 but maybe I will try that. Someday.

@dbrx- Sounds good for only playing… four weeks now, right?

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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #118 on: December 15, 2014, 01:05:30 am »
Good changes for 4 weeks. I'd suggest working on your strumming, you seem to be strumming very hard with a thin pick, and so make an audible click on each string, as you can hear this over the top of the amp.

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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #119 on: December 15, 2014, 01:10:41 am »
I walk the line - guitar and vocals

One problem I am finding is by the time I get to the end of song I lose the pick in my hand and need to readjust. I have gone back to Justin's post about how to hold a pick but am still not sure why this is happening. It seems to be a new phenomenon. I might be holding it too tight. I think this led to the chords not sounding quite as good as in some of the other songs I've done recently.

   
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #120 on: December 15, 2014, 08:20:39 am »
@dbrx Good attempt at this years love. It's a tricky one with plenty of chord changes. Not too much hesitation and just concentrate on getting the strumming even.

@phx1973 Nice and clear recording. Good to see singing and playing coming together. What strumming pattern are you using?  would be interested to see how it sounds with just down strums at this stage.
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #121 on: December 15, 2014, 06:54:26 pm »

@phx1973 Nice and clear recording. Good to see singing and playing coming together. What strumming pattern are you using?  would be interested to see how it sounds with just down strums at this stage.

Hey Rossco, thanks for that. For walk the line I used the strumming as Justin writes it out in the songbook for boom-chik-a- boom. I think that is down strum on beat 1. Then DUD on beats 2 + 3. Then maybe a DU on 4 +. I don't remember exactly. I know it didn't exactly give that train sound when I did it...so you might be right that all down strums might be better. Eventually I would like to get to the alternating bass line thing, but obviously I am a far way off from there.

I appreciate the comment. I made me think maybe I should try all down strums now and see how it compares. 
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #122 on: December 15, 2014, 07:20:05 pm »
Good changes for 4 weeks. I'd suggest working on your strumming, you seem to be strumming very hard with a thin pick, and so make an audible click on each string, as you can hear this over the top of the amp.
I have noticed the pick sounding a bit raspy. It probably sounds worse on the recording because I didn't actually have the amp connected, just had the mic in front of the guitar. Is that the problem and there's nothing to worry about or am I strumming too hard, or should I be using a harder pick now? I've been using a 0.5 as it's the thinnest I've got.

Working on strumming could be good for a while actually as I need to give my left hand a rest for a while. Combination of the guitar and work (lots of sanding and machine polishing) is giving me some issues at the moment.

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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #123 on: December 15, 2014, 09:22:57 pm »
@ phx1973

Good job with Walk the Line.  Nice to hear you give the singing a go and the chord changes are pretty smooth.  The boom-chik-a- boom looks like it should be easy but it's just not :)  I found it to be the hardest pattern to do in the BC and I grew up listening to Cash so it's not like I didn't know what it should sound like.  I'm still working at being able to hit it consistently enough to record using it.
                                   
One thing you could try with boom-chik-a- boom to dress up the song would be to just pick the bass string on beats 1 and 3.   
So use  B  DUB  DU with B=6th string on E, 5h on A, and 4th on D.  You don't have to walk the bass yet just pick it on 1 and 3.

I'll also pass on a suggestion given to me when I was recording Walk the Line.  Instead of doing a full boom-chik-a- boom just do a boom-chik like this

1+2+3+4+
B  D  B   D 

If you look on my soundcloud you'll see I have a couple of recordings of Walk the Line both recorded using this simple pattern.  It really does sound quite nice and essentially the same as doing only 4 downstrums.  Only difference is 1 and 3 are picks and 2 and 4 are strums.   
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Re: Beginner's Thread
« Reply #124 on: December 16, 2014, 12:25:44 am »
@Sweed77

Thanks for the boom-chik-a-lite  suggestion. I am definitely going to try that!


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