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Root and 3 or b3 chords
« on: March 02, 2013, 06:43:55 am »
Hey guys,

I've been exploring the CAGED system and I figured that I've never heard or read about chords that are only build of root and 3 (maj version) or b3 (min version). But I saw John Mayer playing that kind of chords in his cover of "California Dreaming" (3 2 5 x x). I means I get that it's kind of a power chord consisting of only two notes but is it a common used chord, and how are those chords called?

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Re: Root and 3 or b3 chords
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 07:15:20 am »
Never really heard it called anything, but you could call it a voicing of a major or minor chord. Taking the 5th out actually doesn't change the character a ton (jazz folks do that all the time).

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Re: Root and 3 or b3 chords
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2013, 07:37:22 am »
Thanks for your help Joshs!
Maybe someone can help out with the name :)

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Re: Root and 3 or b3 chords
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 08:20:49 am »
Two notes can be called double stops or dyads ...


A double stop is made of two notes
mostly root and fifth
also
root / third = double stop major
root / flat third = double stop minor


A dyad ....

from Wiki ...

"In music, a dyad is a set of two notes or pitches.  Although most chords have three or more notes, in certain contexts a dyad may be considered to be a chord.
The most common two-note chord is made from the interval of a perfect fifth, which may be suggestive of music of the Medieval or Renaissance periods, or various kinds of rock music. When fifths are missing from major or minor triads, on the other hand, they may still suggest triads. For example, C and E may suggest a C major triad (C-E-G)..."

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Re: Root and 3 or b3 chords
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2013, 05:44:49 pm »
But there're three notes in that voicing, it includes the octave.

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Re: Root and 3 or b3 chords
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2013, 05:53:36 pm »
But there're three notes in that voicing, it includes the octave.

in other words two notes or pitches

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Re: Root and 3 or b3 chords
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2013, 05:54:08 pm »
Thanks for your help close2u!  :)

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Re: Root and 3 or b3 chords
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2013, 06:00:22 pm »
Double stop means playing two strings at once. If you're playing three strings, it's a triple stop. Either way, it's not a chord type, it's a technique. Similar to how a barre chord isn't a chord type, it's a way of playing a chord. Consider this, if you asked a piano player to play a double stop chord, what'd they say?

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Re: Root and 3 or b3 chords
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 07:56:05 pm »
Double stop means playing two strings at once. If you're playing three strings, it's a triple stop.

I agree.

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Either way, it's not a chord type, it's a technique.

I disagree

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Similar to how a barre chord isn't a chord type, it's a way of playing a chord.

I disagree.


Dyads are chord types.


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Consider this, if you asked a piano player to play a double stop chord, what'd they say?

bit of a red herring question really ... it is a guitar term, generally



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Re: Root and 3 or b3 chords
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 09:14:07 pm »
Oh, I was only talking about calling them double stops. Didn't read close enough to catch the dyad part!

 

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