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Offline mouser9169

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2014, 12:06:05 am »
Thanks for the reply. But what's with those people who say they don't really know any music theory yet they can play in the band with others? Are they just playing by ear and try out different chords which might sound somewhat good to make a harmony?

You've asked two different questions:

PLAYING doesn't require music theory, though knowing it helps.

COMPOSING or arranging requires a pretty deep knowledge of music theory (yes, I know there are composers who aren't theory savvy, but they're the minority).

What you need to do is sit down, take a deep breath, and start at the beginning. If you want to play guitar, start with the beginners course and go through each lesson - some may be review and you'll breeze through, but I've found very useful tidbits tucked away in a lot of his lessons that true beginners probably miss if they never watch them again.

One of the Very Cool(tm) things that Justin's course does is provide actual metrics for you to see when it's time to move on to the next stage. When you can do so many chord changes a minute, and know this or that strumming pattern, or whatever else is in that stage: don't forget the ear training exercises, it's time to move on.

If you can do most of it but are stuck on one or two things, then practice those things like mad until you can do them, then move on.

If you're serious about learning to compose music, you've got to study music theory. You can do this concurrently with your playing, because honestly the two don't have a whole lot to do with each other at the beginning playing level, especially with guitar. Piano/keyboard is less forgiving in this regard.

Get a good, solid book. You can buy the old (2003) edition of Tonal Harmony on Amazon for under twenty bucks used, $45 new (the workbook is more expensive, but still a lot cheaper than the latest edition). That's a steal - the latest edition is over $150 new for just the text, though you can buy it packaged with the workbook at some reasonable prices through 3rd party sellers. In any case I can guarantee music theory hasn't changed that much over the past ten years.

How much of it you use will be up to you and how you choose to compose and arrange your music. There are metal bands that throw long 'suspension' chains in their music like something out of Bach or Hayden. Others just get by with knowing a few chord progressions and scales.

Oh, and learning theory is hard work. There's a LOT more to it than learning chord progressions and scale degrees. Only you can decide if you want to go down this route.

My suggestion is to focus on your playing for now - work especially on your TIMING. Do everything to a metronome, this way when you get the opportunity to play with other people, you'll be able to play IN TIME. Without that, jam sessions quickly become train wrecks.
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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2014, 01:56:35 am »
Thanks for the reply. But what's with those people who say they don't really know any music theory yet they can play in the band with others? Are they just playing by ear and try out different chords which might sound somewhat good to make a harmony?

They know theory. They just learnt its practical applications through playing, not studying. BB King is said never to have studied any theory in his life. He knows blue and jazz back to front and inside out.

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #52 on: September 15, 2014, 02:49:18 pm »
Hey everybody. Im new to playing the guitar.I'm practicing the d major chord and however hard I try it doesn't sound perfect but it sounds okay-ish. Is it okay if I learn another chord without being perfect in this?

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #53 on: September 15, 2014, 04:08:44 pm »
When you first start very little is going to sound perfect. Also when playing one chord over and over the
groove in your fingers become pretty deep and can mute the strings instead of letting them ring out.
So learning one or two new chord will actually help with the first chord. You can alternate between them
giving the grooves in you fingers time to puff back up and it make practicing more enjoyable.
 

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2014, 04:11:24 pm »
Thanks for the help stitch..:-)

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2015, 02:17:14 pm »
Hi Justin! what do you recommend learning first, arpeggios or triads?

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2015, 04:58:53 pm »
Devan

Guess it depend what level you're at or at what point you are on Justin's learning path. Triads appear towards the end of the Intermediate foundation course but Arpeggios have their own sub set of lessons.

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2017, 11:59:25 pm »
Hi everyone,

My name's J - I'm new to the forum and have a question about practicing and what to practice. I've been making progress Justin's timer method, for an hour a day, practicing each thing for 10 minutes e.g. scales/arpeggios/techniques etc. But my question is this: With each segment, how many exercises should I be doing? A couple for a minute or two each? More than that, or just one? If so, should I stick with those 1/2/3 exercises every time I focus on that area until I get them up to speed?

Thanks,

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2017, 12:44:19 am »
J,

I guess it depends where you want to go. The techniques lessons are not ends in themselves. They are means to a musical end. When doing the original Blues Lead course, I added an extra five minutes for each of the rolling technique, bending technique and vibrato lessons. I picked up rolling pretty quickly, so it only lasted a week or so, but the others, especially bending, needed longer. I did those techniques so I could do the Blues licks. And I learnt the Blues licks so I could rip solos during jams with my mates.

Don't learn a technique so you can do the technique. Practice what you need to get you to be the musician you want to be, and to play the music you want to perform. At times, that will be spending months with the metronome, honing your scales. But know why - so I learn my way around the neck, or so I can really cut sick, speed wise, during that solo in that song, or because I need to increase my left/right coordination so that I can...

I would say, focusing more directly on your question,, as I understand it, that 5 minute slots for the techniques you need to be doing to play the music you want to be able to play is about right. Don't learn scales so that you can play scales fast. That is not music. Learn scales fast so you can nail that solo. And balance it out. If you are doing scales, arpeggios, and 'techniques', don't forget that you should devote equal time to, say 16th note Strumming or fingerstyle, and to theory, and to aural training, and to songs. Always songs.

Learn the techniques that you need to play your repertoire, and that will help make you the musician you want to be.

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2017, 12:52:32 am »
Practice what you need to get you to be the musician you want to be, and to play the music you want to perform.
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Learn the techniques that you need to play your repertoire, and that will help make you the musician you want to be.

I don't think we hear that enough.  It should be repeated often.

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2017, 12:33:40 pm »
Thanks for your help everyone :-)
What a warm welcome to the forum. I'll write about myself on the 'welcome' page, but long story short, I'd love to become a music/guitar teacher myself. I've been playing for 6 years, I'm 26 and have always thought about it, but have really started to seriously look at my playing and knowledge in the last 6 months.  If I can get there by 30 I'll be a happy man!

Given that I want to be a teacher, I think I need to take a methodical approach - stick to a few things at a time; master them and move on, becoming back to them for a refresher when I can.

Up until recently I've always been a 'feel' player - my techniques have been okay but not where I'd like them to be, and since starting my practice schedules and working hard, I've seen good results so far.


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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2017, 02:37:39 pm »
I am a teacher of literature and language, and have learnt so much about how to present and sequentially structure courses from this site. If you want to learn to teach, the Beginner's Course on this site is a masterclass in presenting information in a way that really helps, supports, encourages and teaches students. It rewards study.
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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2017, 10:50:43 pm »
Thanks for the tip! I will definitely check it out :-)

J

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2019, 07:56:52 pm »
I'm not sure if I'll get a reply but I couldn't find anywhere else to write this since it's regarding this lesson.

I recently watched Justin's effective practice lessons after finishing the intermediate foundation level.
My current goal is to create covers of video game / anime music on Youtube, similarly to Youtubers such as FamilyJules. Howver, I'm not sure what I need to improve to get to that point, I've created a rough practice schedule based off of Justin's intermediate practice routine but I wondered if I could get any advice on how to make steps towards my goal.

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2019, 08:08:25 pm »
Unfortunately there's generally no magic ingredient that can make you get better faster other than practice. Of course, there's ineffective ways to practice and effective ways to practice.

However, one of the other really effective things you can do is transcribing. You may well need to do this anyway as most of the songs you're looking to cover probably won't have decent tab for them anywhere. This will develop your ear and your knowledge of the fret board and fingering as it requires you to work out where on the fret board to play particular parts of the song, as well as fingering to use.

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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2020, 11:55:41 am »
Hello, I have a question,

I know what my long term goal is but I have trouble with deciding what I should be practicing. I hope that in 5 to 10 years to be able to record my own Instrumental Rock/Metal Guitar. I recently picked up the guitar again but still feel like I miss a clear path regarding mini-goals. I just started with the beginners course but I dont have any idea as what I should be focussing on after that.


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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2020, 12:18:31 pm »
Hi Jordy. Welcome to the forum.

What a great long-term goal to work towards.

Your
... I just started with the beginners course but I dont have any idea as what I should be focussing on after that.

In truth - not much.
Your focus should be on the beginners course.
Patience.
Everything will unfold and become attainable to you as you make progress through the beginner course then the intermediate course.
But be in the moment.
Work in the present.
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"What's for breakfast? said Pooh. "What do you say, Piglet?"
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Re: PC-102 • Decide What To Practice
« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2020, 03:09:02 pm »
Follow the Tao of Pooh ...

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