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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2016, 10:02:36 pm »
@sweed77 thank you for that tip about the bass note. I'll try it out and see if it sounds more interesting than the 4/4. For now the link to the recording is sent so she gets what she gets ;-)
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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2017, 10:01:10 pm »
What the end bit justin plays?

Interesting version on songnotes if you youtube it.
It has a g and a b7! he even gets a plug in for justin!

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2019, 02:35:42 am »
Hi,
I have some confusion. I started on this song using the payed app with a karaoke type beat you can slow to suit your ability. This has 2 x bars per chord nearly all throughout.
I then got both hard copy songbooks and it has 1 bar per chord change.

I thought the app would be great as you can adjust the bpm to suit but it doesn't align with the book.

This isn't the only song I think, any advice please.

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« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2020, 11:38:03 pm »
This song (https://www.justinguitar.com/songs/johnny-cash-i-walk-the-line-chords-tabs-guitar-lesson-bs-105) is down as White difficulty so thought I would have a go. Well I can just about play the chords but doesn't sound anything like the video or the JC version, which I listened to on Spotify. )JG has a Beginners Playlist that includes this and a number of other White songs.) Having listened to the JC version I can't even tell where he changes chords to match the JG version!!

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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2020, 02:46:11 pm »
So first things first...you've got to understand that Justin simplifies a lot of songs so that those beginning can play something approximating the original. During the beginners stage this goes on all the way through slowly building to a point where the songs are more complex, more chord variations, more complex strumming etc. If you have the song books then Justin does in may say how you can take it to the next stage. In that video he starts off with the simple variation for the stage i.e. all down strums, then introduces something more complex (hitting the bass note as part of the strumming). The simple variation is what you're aiming for at this stage.

Secondly the tracks you're listening to on Spotify, in particular if it's an original, are going to be in a "band" situation with drums and probably at least two guitars with one playing rhythm and the other some form of lead guitar part OR if it's an acoustic they are probably playing a picked pattern over those chords...all just way to difficult for someone on that this stage.

Think of the songs as reinforcing the lessons being learning and slowly leading to a point when they sound more like them. Even without the complex picking this song sounds okay once you've got better at chord changes and strumming. Learning simple songs like this breaks you out of the pattern of just chord changes and prepares you for learning more complex songs as you progress....give it time
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« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2020, 02:47:52 pm »
So first things first...you've got to understand that Justin simplifies a lot of songs so that those beginning can play something approximating the original. During the beginners stage this goes on all the way through slowly building to a point where the songs are more complex, more chord variations, more complex strumming etc. If you have the song books then Justin does in may say how you can take it to the next stage. In that video he starts off with the simple variation for the stage i.e. all down strums, then introduces something more complex (hitting the bass note as part of the strumming). The simple variation is what you're aiming for at this stage.

Secondly the tracks you're listening to on Spotify, in particular if it's an original, are going to be in a "band" situation with drums and probably at least two guitars with one playing rhythm and the other some form of lead guitar part OR if it's an acoustic they are probably playing a picked pattern over those chords...all just way to difficult for someone on that this stage.

Think of the songs as reinforcing the lessons being learning and slowly leading to a point when they sound more like them. Even without the complex picking this song sounds okay once you've got better at chord changes and strumming. Learning simple songs like this breaks you out of the pattern of just chord changes and prepares you for learning more complex songs as you progress....give it time

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2020, 09:22:49 pm »
Don't forget that the original Johnny Cash song contains five changes of key - one each time a new verse comes along.

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« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2020, 12:22:37 pm »
Don't forget that the original Johnny Cash song contains five changes of key - one each time a new verse comes along.
That's another new word (key) which I have seen mentioned on here and am aware of but don't really know what it means. I even googled it but still not sure!!

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« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2020, 01:03:46 pm »
That's another new word (key) which I have seen mentioned on here and am aware of but don't really know what it means. I even googled it but still not sure!!

The chord progression you are playing in verse 1 is changed for verses 2, 3, 4 and 5. The vocals have to change pitch to match this.

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« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2021, 11:18:55 pm »
I have the Beginners Songbook and the Easy Guitar Songbook, which both have this song, but with different chords. Why is this and which ones right?

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« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2021, 12:20:56 am »
Which ever Key you can sing and play it in.

The Easy Guitar Songbook is exactly that a easy version of song so beginners can play
then using easy chords.

That's another new word (key) which I have seen mentioned on here and am aware of but don't really know what it means. I even googled it but still not sure!!

Key of a song is the chords a song is played in or it's tonal center.
for example If a song uses the chord A D E it is in the of A
If it uses the chords G C D  it's in the key of G

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2021, 01:46:15 pm »
Thanks but which book is the correct chord sequence?

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« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2021, 02:42:56 pm »
What are the chords in each book? I have neither book.
Both could be right. You can transpose songs to any key as long as the progression
is correct.

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« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2021, 02:43:45 pm »
Thanks but which book is the correct chord sequence?

I don't have both books to compare, Stuart, so may be off the mark, neverthless ...

My guess would be that both are correct.

If I recall correctly I Walk The Line is included as a Stage 1 song in the Beginner Song Book using the chords A D E.

It is presented there as a simplified version since I think the original changes key a couple of times

So the other version may include a chord progression that includes this.

You may also find that the original begins in a different key and the version in the BSB changes the key to make it simpler for the learners looking for songs to play that use the A D E chords.

All this makes more sense once one has begin to learn a little theory about the major scale and the chords in a key. I am not sure exactly where Justin introduces this, if it is covered in one of the first three grades, in the first free levels of Practical Music Theory, or maybe only in an Intermediate Module.

To illustrate, if I play a 12 bar blues using A D E or E A B both progressions would be correct for any song that makes use of a standard 12 bar blues progression.  You would just be playing either in the key of A or the key of E. And that choice could be based simply on the vocal range of the singer.

Hope that helps. And if I am way off the mark somebody will jump in and correct.
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« Reply #64 on: November 28, 2021, 12:43:58 pm »
I don't have both books to compare, Stuart, so may be off the mark, neverthless ...

My guess would be that both are correct.

If I recall correctly I Walk The Line is included as a Stage 1 song in the Beginner Song Book using the chords A D E.

Correct. The chords are bars of E A E A D A E A.  The tempo is not given but I think about 98-100 is about right.

In the Easy Guitar Book the tempo is down at 210, with the chords noted as E E A A E E A A D D A A E E A A.

Confused!

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« Reply #65 on: November 28, 2021, 12:55:43 pm »
Correct. The chords are bars of E A E A D A E A.  The tempo is not given but I think about 98-100 is about right.

In the Easy Guitar Book the tempo is down at 210, with the chords noted as E E A A E E A A D D A A E E A A.

Confused!

Stuart, the chords are the same, just doubled up. My guess is this could have something to do with strumming pattern. If I recall correctly, Justin made a comment in either the BSB or song video for One, that the rhythm for the song is a 1/16th note pattern, which he presented by showing it as two bars of the same chord with an 1/8th note pattern for each bar.  And if you play it counting as 1/8th notes then you would have to double the tempo to match the orginal. Maybe the same thing here?
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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #66 on: November 28, 2021, 04:59:20 pm »
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