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« Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 12:20:25 pm by justinguitar »
"You can get help from teachers, but you are going to have to learn a lot by yourself, sitting alone in a room." Dr. Seuss

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2012, 11:12:08 pm »
I was wondering What speed should i set my metronome to to play along with this song.
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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 01:16:20 pm »
Hi edward, and welcome :)

When you're learning, you should set the metronome as slow as you need to to be able to play the through 100% correct (without regard to the tempo of the original).

If you want to play along with the original, then you should be able to pick up the beat from the original recording (important skill to practice). If your metronome has a 'tap tempo' feature, you can use this to 'tap in' the rhythm of the original and get a tempo setting.

(Or you can cheat, and do a search for sheet music on the internet - this usually gives you a preview of the first page with the key signature & tempo - 'moderately' or 104 bpm, but *DON'T* just plug this into your metronome and try to keep up - learn to play it *S-L-O-W-L-Y* and gradually work up to seed as you improve.)

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 08:40:33 pm »
I really struggled with getting the song to sound "right" with the "Boom Chicka" rhythm when played slowly.
However when I thought "sod it, I'm going to go for it" and tried it at "full speed" it sounded so much better.
Trouble is it got a little sloppy in the middle but tightened up up again towards the end.

I know this approach is wrong, but it seems more relaxed, what do I do?

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 10:16:52 pm »
Country shuffle isn't easy, like you said it's a feel. One thing you can do is play along with the record at lower speed. There's a lot of software that can slow down recordings. I'm using Audacity (it's free). That helps to get the fine points in rhythm.

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2013, 10:48:53 am »
I second the idea of playing along with the recording slightly slower to make sure you get the groove right. It's a tricky one and one that I'm still working on!
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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2013, 09:15:30 pm »
Anyone have a link to the tabs for this song? I find it hard to lern it just by listening to the instructions and then going for it

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2013, 09:46:17 pm »
No tabs on site, legal reasons.  I believe you can buy one of Justin's song books that has the song written out.

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2013, 05:04:19 pm »
What is the ending that Justin plays after the alt base section?

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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2013, 11:09:40 pm »
I am confused. It seems that Justin says to play one bar each of E A E A D etc.. But, when he goes to the faster 'boom chick-a boom chick-a'  playing it sounds to me like he is playing two bars per chord. Is this the case or is it just my hearing?

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2013, 02:18:42 pm »
... sounds to me like he is playing two bars per chord.

I listened to the intro again.  It's only one bar per chord, he's just getting four of those boom-chickas in each bar. 

Who you gonna believe?  Justin, or your lying ears?   ;)
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2013, 02:58:15 pm »
... sounds to me like he is playing two bars per chord.

I listened to the intro again.  It's only one bar per chord, he's just getting four of those boom-chickas in each bar. 

Who you gonna believe?  Justin, or your lying ears?   ;)

So, does that mean he is playing 1/16 notes instead of 1/8 notes? My ears do play tricks on me  :)

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2013, 03:11:30 pm »
I think it's like quarter notes
1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
D   D   D   D

where D are the downstrums.

Versus 16th notes
1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
B duB duB duB du

where B is the "boom" and the du is the "chicka".
...where the deer and the antelope play.  Well, they're not really playing.  They're fleeing in terror.

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2013, 08:22:09 pm »
I think it's like quarter notes
1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
D   D   D   D

where D are the downstrums.

Versus 16th notes
1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
B duB duB duB du

where B is the "boom" and the du is the "chicka".


But if I count it out he seems to be playing 1 2& 3 4& twice through with the E chord before switching to A. This is either two bars of E or ???

I'll just keep at it and see if I can work it out.

Thanks for your help.

Phil

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2013, 11:04:15 pm »
Quote
But if I count it out he seems to be playing 1 2& 3 4& twice through with the E chord before switching to A. This is either two bars of E or ???

Yes, you say potato, I say patato....

1 2& 3 4& 1 2& 3 4&
B du B du B du B du

1e+a 2e+a 3e+a 4e+a
B du B du B du B du
...where the deer and the antelope play.  Well, they're not really playing.  They're fleeing in terror.

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2013, 12:13:55 am »
maybe i choosed the wrong thread, maybe not
but
i finaly got my songbook yesterday ;-)
and the first song i tried to play is this one

but my question isnt just about this song and more about strumming at all, anyway the question occured while practising this song so i ask here

here we go
i have no problems to play that song with these chords and the boom chika while listening to the recording -  need practise but am ok

but when i start singing, well i probably could stay strumming that way, but i dont want to,... let me call it, that it feels like i have to strumm differently and add here and there some strumms, maybe just some fast dududud

so i could work on strumm correctly
i also could strumm like i feel
maybe it just feels like it because while singing i dont strumm correct and have to speede up sometimes to fit in , i dont know

 i know playing and singing at once is a differenrt thing then just playing
but here its just that it feels like i have to add some strumms, is that in genneral ok not to strumm accurate and sometimes more and sometimes less?

i know ...if it sounds good , it ist good
but i am not sure how it sound, i am a beginner and probaqbly all i do sounds terible anyway ;-)
what should i do?
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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2013, 01:31:20 am »
Can somebody post the chord changes according the the lyrics? This is always hard for me to know on what word to change chords.  :o ;D ;)

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2013, 06:50:39 am »
you have to do the counting 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4 and listen to the song, making sure to listen for the chord change and when it happens .... training your ear to hear the movement of chords is vital ... don't try to get around it for some easy fix that won't help you in the long term

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2013, 07:55:21 pm »
Could someone answer to the Andreas Fischer's post please  ? As this is happened to me too and i suppose we are not the only two!

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2013, 09:14:25 pm »
is that in genneral ok not to strumm accurate and sometimes more and sometimes less?

No (and yes):

I found that there is a temptation to play to the sound of the lyrics and/or melody, especially when trying to sing at the same time. This is a BAD thing.

Varying the rhythm whilst keeping in time can be a good thing.

I get the impression from the question that Andreas is likely to be strumming with the lyrics, so should concentrate on NOT doing this, but to keep to an accurate and strict rhythm. Once this becomes second nature, then - sure - it is OK to vary the rhythm. But only after being able to keep a strict rhythm easily.

I think that the rhythm needs to be solid before trying to sing along.

YMMV :)

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2013, 09:17:55 pm »
Could someone answer to the Andreas Fischer's post please  ? As this is happened to me too and i suppose we are not the only two!

No, you're not the only two: I did have the same problem (and sometimes still have), but like close2u said, there is no easy fix or shortcut. You'll have to practice and try and try and try and one day, suddenly you will get it and realise it was not that difficult after all. "Sadly" you'll have to put in the time. It's all part of the learning process. 
Not the answer you were looking for, I think, but sorry, unfortunately there is no other. My own experience, but who am I to know? (I'm just another beginner, but I'm finally getting the hang of it  ;)).
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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2013, 11:37:28 pm »
is that in genneral ok not to strumm accurate and sometimes more and sometimes less?

No (and yes):

I found that there is a temptation to play to the sound of the lyrics and/or melody, especially when trying to sing at the same time. This is a BAD thing.

Varying the rhythm whilst keeping in time can be a good thing.

I get the impression from the question that Andreas is likely to be strumming with the lyrics, so should concentrate on NOT doing this, but to keep to an accurate and strict rhythm. Once this becomes second nature, then - sure - it is OK to vary the rhythm. But only after being able to keep a strict rhythm easily.

I think that the rhythm needs to be solid before trying to sing along.

YMMV :)


So you're just saying that because a begginer is not so good keeping rythm, he has to try keeping rythm. But later on, that he will always be in time, then he can change patterns. Do i get it right?

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2013, 11:40:35 pm »
^I think that sounds right.

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2014, 04:12:53 am »
Where can I find translation for the strumming notations?
Simple enough until I get to "I walk the Line" and then I think it might be helpful to know why some strums are attached, the swoops underneath or the notation in "Walk of Life".

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Re: BS-105 • I Walk The Line - Johnny Cash
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2014, 09:01:51 pm »
it's really difficult to manage the boom chick-a rythm pattern, it's ok if you're playing an E chord, or whatever chord that has the root in the 6th string, but it's really difficult to keep it accurate in the other 2 bass strings. Except from the usual advice of practice practice practice, is there any other tip that maybe it will help to be more accurate without hitting other strings in the Bass hit ? Thanks people :)

 

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