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Offline PattheBunny

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2013, 01:02:38 pm »
I might just be griping, but I've just started to fingerpick and all of a sudden my fretting hand is making stupid mistakes.  What's up with that?  Has it happened to anyone else?  I think it might just be from changing my focus to getting the right strings with my fingers.  And the same thing kind of happens anytime I try to pick out a note.  What's weird is that I can fret the bass note when I'm strumming but when I'm fingerpicking all of a sudden I get buzz buzz buzz.   Or I could be one of the few people who start to go backwards at a certain point, like Benjamin Button.   I have a lot of practicing to do, but I would love to know this is not a freaky thing.... because I don't need any more of those. ;)
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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2013, 07:01:01 pm »
I found it difficult to fingerpick in the beginning as well. Heck, it's still difficult!
I guess that the sudden focus on the right hands picking patterns allocates a lot of brain power and that the fretting hand then suffers in precision just shows that we need a lot of practice still.

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2013, 09:27:57 pm »
Hey Pat-

I think the issue might be because when you play with a pick, you mainly just need to control your entire hand motion but when you fingerpick you are having to coordinate each of your fingers. The movements are probably similar enough to the movement of your fretting hand that your brain wants to try and sync the two up. Kind of like trying to pat your head and rub your stomach, both hands tend to want to do the same thing  :P

Just like anything else, starting slow and simple and then working your way up to more difficult things is the way to go and the problem will probably work itself out in time!

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2013, 06:15:55 am »
Hey Pat-

I think the issue might be because when you play with a pick, you mainly just need to control your entire hand motion but when you fingerpick you are having to coordinate each of your fingers. The movements are probably similar enough to the movement of your fretting hand that your brain wants to try and sync the two up. Kind of like trying to pat your head and rub your stomach, both hands tend to want to do the same thing  :P

Just like anything else, starting slow and simple and then working your way up to more difficult things is the way to go and the problem will probably work itself out in time!

Wow, I think you're right!!   How interesting mind mapping is... you do something just a few times and it builds a freeway in your brain -- well I suppose it starts as a little dirt road -- and then if you add another way to get there your brain fights you to stay where it's been.   Brain flexibiity exercises are as important as anything I think.  That's why singing and playing at the same time and being able to separate the two functions is so hard and so valuable.   
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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2016, 10:58:55 pm »
ive learnt patterns 1234 in the finger style im a little confused justin said in the video to play pattern 1 and then patern 2 together would you do that in a song or would you play pattern 1-3 together after each other as the chord prog is c,g,am,f. so my point is c chord patern 1 for 4 beats then g chord pattern 2 for 4 beats or c chord pattern 1 then g chord pattern 3, plus i would really like to know what kind of songs are these patterns used in as he said billions of songs use these patterns as a default. i love the lessons but would really like some advice if possible thanks. keep up the great work justin

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2016, 11:36:58 pm »
Pattern 1 and 2 for C and Am pattern 3 and 4 G and depending on what F your playing you could use
any of the 4 patterns.

You root note is always the lowers note played with these patterns. So if you're playing a full
barre F you could use Pattern 3 or 4 because the root note is on the E string.
If you're playing a 4 finger F the root is on the D string but you are plying the 5th on the A string
so pattern 1 and 2 will work.
If you're playing the mini barre F then the pattern you'd use the lowest string played would be on
the D string which isn't one of these 4 but like pattern 1 and 2 but everything is played from the
D string to high e.

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2018, 09:48:04 am »
Are these bars 4/4 or 7/4 or what? I cannot get the idea right. Maybe this question sounds stupid, but I had to ask.

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2018, 03:18:37 pm »
They are all 4/4 time the thumb is played on the beat. The fingers are played in between the beat.
If you have finished the Beginner Course think of it as 8th note stumming on the and.
If you have completed the Beginner Course and don't understand the concept gobackand redo
all the rhythm part of the course.

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2019, 10:55:18 am »
I am making progress on these patterns.  Have reached the point where I can now use the patterns over a chord progression.  Not yet fully comfortable but am doing well, so I think it is time to start thinking about song(s) to perform to put this to work, share where I am and get feedback. 

But a specific song is not yet coming to mind.  The chords I am comfortable to use are C Em F G Am.  So would appreciate some suggestions.  Nothing too complicated, by which I mean only a single chord per bar, no need for embellishments and not too up-tempo.

Many of you have a good appreciation for my vocal abilities and limitations, so if you can factor that into any suggestions so much the better  ;D

A gap in my learning is what to do with D chords, so at this stage specifically don't want songs that use the ii chord.

That said, I am wondering about how to deal with D and Dm.  Does one play open D on the 1 & 3 beats and then either F# or A on the 2 & 4?  or do you play a bass note with the thumb on the G string ... doesn't seem right to use my thumb on the G string.  And I suppose it might depend on the song and (as usual) the "if it sounds good, it is good" principle would apply.  But am wondering what the recommended approaches might be and perhaps missed it when studying the lessons. 

I'll appreciate inputs and trust you'll be tolerant if I end up not using your suggestion :)

Thanks

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2019, 12:01:19 pm »
@ DavidP

This doesn't use Em but E7 … not much difference in the right hand if any.

Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen.
6/8 time.


Intro
| C  / / / / / | Am / / / / / | C  / / / / / | Am / / / / / |

Verse
| C  / / / / / | Am / / / / / | C  / / / / / | Am / / / / / |

| F  / / / / / | G  / / / / / | C  / / / / / | G  / / / / / |

| C  / / / / / | F  / / G / / | Am / / / / / | F  / / / / / |

| G  / / / / / | E7 / / / / / | Am / / / / / | Am / / / / / |

Chorus
| F  / / / / / | F  / / / / / | Am / / / / / | Am / / / / / |

| F  / / / / / | F  / / / / / | C  / / / / / | G  / / / / / | C  / / / / / / |



You can play a simple and pleasing up / down fingerstyle pattern making sure you play 6 notes per bar.

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2019, 01:02:06 pm »
Thanks Richard.

I am working on Hallelujah using the kind of pattern taught in BC with a single bass note.  Would have to adapt the patterns of this lesson since they are 4/4 time.

That may be interesting to explore down the line but for now I think I'll stick with the pattern as I have been practising, as per the lesson.
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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2019, 01:07:15 pm »
my bad … I was thinking of finger-picked songs with those chords in a simple style rather than the 4/4 fingerstyle patterns.

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2019, 01:40:16 pm »
my bad … I was thinking of finger-picked songs with those chords in a simple style rather than the 4/4 fingerstyle patterns.

No worries,  Richard, keeps me thinking about what I am doing, rather than just taking inout on board without thought and understanding  :)

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2019, 06:12:53 pm »
David have a look at Justin's lesson on Wonderful Tonight.
At the end of the lesson he shows a sinple finger picking version.
It will show you how to deal with the D using both the F# and G string.
The nice thing is it a simple 1234 5678 picking pattern.
It not as hard as it sounds and will give you good practice for finger
independence.

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Re: FO-101 • Folk Fingerstyle Patterns 1
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2019, 06:41:26 pm »
David have a look at Justin's lesson on Wonderful Tonight.
At the end of the lesson he shows a sinple finger picking version.
It will show you how to deal with the D using both the F# and G string.
The nice thing is it a simple 1234 5678 picking pattern.
It not as hard as it sounds and will give you good practice for finger
independence.

Thanks Stitch.  I'll take a look.

 

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