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"You can get help from teachers, but you are going to have to learn a lot by yourself, sitting alone in a room." Dr. Seuss

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 09:42:00 pm »
The songbook says capo 1:st fret, altough you didn't mention it or use it in the video`?

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 06:20:37 pm »

   Theres no way i'm gonna i'll be able to pick ,n strum that fast :'(

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2012, 07:03:09 pm »
Giving up already? Where's your pride? Where's your sense of adventure?

Seriously, today's impossible is often tomorrows yawn (well, maybe not yawning here, but still). So keep at it, nice and slow, and before you know you'll be there. You might want to start without the up-stroke (that can be the killer at this speed), and take it from there.

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 11:39:30 pm »
 >:( i never give up you crazy fool ;)
 i know what to do jack ,but i've got the beginers prob of ,i want it now.
 Plus i'm trying to learn to many songs at once
   But thanks for your kick up the xx--xx :-*

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 05:30:19 pm »
The songbook says capo 1:st fret, altough you didn't mention it or use it in the video`?

For what it's worth... I found I could play along with the record (studio version) with the capo on the second fret.

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 11:16:30 am »
Pretty sure I checked when we did the book and to play along with the most common recording it's capo on the 1st fret.

 but Johnny played a lot different ways and if you check out several recordings you'll find some with the capo and some without.

 if I remember right I just thought that was easier  to sing the song in open position.
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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2012, 09:23:24 pm »
The Beginner Songbook is wrong in terms of the number of bars it shows.   

On Justin's lesson he specifically says it is 8xE,4xA,4xE,4xB7,2xE - and this is what I hear when I listen to the song.

The songbook shows 4xE,2xA,2xE,2xB7,2xE.   The only part that has the correct number of bars is the Guitar Solo part.

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 09:27:28 pm »
My book shows the correct chords.
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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 09:29:44 pm »
Must be fixed in the later printings.   Mine was from the first batch.

My book shows the correct chords.

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2012, 02:50:06 pm »
how to train the speed of the strumming :'( :'( i feel very tired of my muscle... :'( :'(

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2012, 03:24:59 pm »
Practice.
Practice more.
Repeat.

And relax your arm and hand when you're playing. It's easy to cramp up when you're playing fast, but it's a very bad habit.

I feel your pain... learning "Hazard" in the acoustic version right now. Anyone got some steroids handy?

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2012, 08:55:23 am »
how to train the speed of the strumming :'( :'( i feel very tired of my muscle... :'( :'(

I feel your pain. I have been playing about five months now, and since the second week began learning the alternate bass strumming pattern. I began doing 8 bars...pausing..then going to another chord. Once I worked my way through the first verse of this song. Then I began reducing the bars played till I was on point with the album. This style takes a long time from what I have been told. I got Mel Bay's country guitar book that has some great exercises in it. Best thing is when you get one J. Cash song you can pretty much play them all except for some of the new stuff from American recordings, which uses a lot of strange timing. Anyways, I practice 2 hours a day. I am still working out my kinks, and have added bass runs to my rendition and the solo. You just gotta practice...and start slow and improve. That is all you can do.

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2012, 11:19:06 pm »
hello! first time post, although ive been online for about 6 months now, and I bought the songbook when I went back too the UK last month. So now Im back in Mexico with the website AND the book....awesome! Anyway, gotta love Johnny, so FPB was the first song I went to 6 months ago. (I actually started learning the guitar 20 years ago, w asn´t bad, but never graduated onto bar chords so set it aside for 12 (!) years before getting motivated again earlier this year. Anyways, I digress. What I want to talk about is that bloody B7 chord; I never learned it all those moons ago, and even now, 6 months later, I still cannot for the life of me make a smooth change. I find that chord a real xx--xx! Anybody else got the same problem? Cheers!

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2013, 10:42:35 am »
Hi all
I'm learning this song to help get my picking accuracy better & cos it's a cool song!
My question is the alternate bass & muting, when playing B7 are you using the middle finger to mute the 6th when playing the 5th?
When I watch the vid it looks like Justin is playing alternate notes on the 5th then 6th, reason I say this is because he could do the same as the E chord & use his thumb to mute the 6th instead of his middle finger.
Also does anybody else find the capo gets in the way when playing the B7? I use my middle finger as the anchor & "swing" my other fingers into place but find the capo hits my first finger upper nuckle
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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2013, 02:03:03 pm »
... when playing B7 are you using the middle finger to mute the 6th when playing the 5th?
Yep!

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When I watch the vid it looks like Justin is playing alternate notes on the 5th then 6th, reason I say this is because he could do the same as the E chord & use his thumb to mute the 6th instead of his middle finger.
He might be accidentally hitting the muted 6th when hunting for the 5th.

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Also does anybody else find the capo gets in the way when playing the B7? I use my middle finger as the anchor & "swing" my other fingers into place but find the capo hits my first finger upper nuckle
I sometimes move the capo further away from the fret (closer to the nut) if it gets in the way.

HTH
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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2013, 11:17:53 pm »
I feel this strumming is a bit too advanced for me for some reason, or perhaps I'm just not into it; I really don't get it because I get the push in Mr. Jones. I get the concept of the triplet and these 7th chords are easy. I've moved on to the next stage because I don't have the blues in my soul. I feel much more comfortable with the big F bar chord and working toward songs and styles that make me feel good. I figure that I'll live with this. I may not be able to continue if I force myself into the blues, my life is the blues right now; I need Pollyanna feel good music and strumming patterns that are slower and consistent with my beginner ability. I just don't identify with any of the stage 5 songs in the videos and need the extra help offered by that format, for me it may be better to move on to stage 6, the big F, ties, and songs that I love. It's either that or I have to wallow in self pity as I contemplate quitting and turn this thing I was loving into drudgery.
I have to do what I can and not worry right now about what I can't.
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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2013, 03:29:30 pm »
..... I just don't identify with any of the stage 5 songs in the videos and need the extra help offered by that format, for me it may be better to move on to stage 6, the big F, ties, and songs that I love. It's either that or I have to wallow in self pity as I contemplate quitting and turn this thing I was loving into drudgery.
I have to do what I can and not worry right now about what I can't.

Hereby you are officially licenced to move to stage 6 and higher!  8)
Be lucky again, Lucky Tim.  ;)

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2013, 03:58:50 pm »
Or you could search for songs using the same chords, but that are more to your taste. Try Searchbychords.com - http://www.searchbychords.com/ According to them, Bill Haley's Shake, Rattle and Roll, which is a fairly cheerful ditty, uses A7,D7 & E7 - and there's a lot of other songs that do as well.

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2013, 06:43:09 pm »
Lucky Tim
From what Im reading you 'got the blues' so what better time to do some self interpritation of these songs.
I currently also have a very major reason to be blue and find that I can gain 'release' by playing these songs really free styling the strum patterns and cranking the amp(I even sing :-[) And this seems to help clear my system and lets me get on with life. Good luck and stay well  :)
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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2013, 08:25:31 pm »
Thanks for the help, really good suggestions.
Lucky Tim
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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2013, 10:46:47 am »
Hi my first post
im 45 years old this site gives impression i really can do this,, ok so on the strumming here is he hitting the base note on the 1 strum down and the third. ie
base1
 light string 2
and up
base 3
light strings 4
and round again to base 1
hope that makes sense

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2013, 11:45:01 am »
I think what you want is Bass note, down, and up.  Check out this page...

http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-175-RhythmBasics5.php

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2014, 01:29:27 pm »
Jesus! The barre chords are a walk in the park compared to this bum chicka thing. When i do it it sounds like a complete mess

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Re: BS-502 • Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2014, 02:07:38 pm »
You MUST start painfully slowly, and do it for a LONG time. Like, for 3 minutes straight (ie an entire song's worth). Stay as loose and relaxed as you can. You must use a metronome.  You want the motion to become completely second nature. Slowly increase the BPM. If you are doing it at a speed where you are not completely relaxed, but it sounds good, stay at that speed until you can do it relaxed for a good 3 minutes before you bump up the speed. Explicitly relax yourself mentally.

IMO the "boom chicka" strumming is one of the hardest things to learn. I've seen guys that can shred the whole neck up and down and can't do this right because it takes so much patience and practice.
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