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BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« on: September 12, 2011, 10:05:39 pm »
« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 11:29:10 pm by Indigo »
"You can get help from teachers, but you are going to have to learn a lot by yourself, sitting alone in a room." Dr. Seuss

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 12:57:31 am »
Is the A chord the right one for this song? It's the only one that just doesn't seem to sit right with the tune. Yes, my guitar's tuned. I've seen other YT vids on the net and a couple use G,C,D instead. I realise there's probably different ways to do it, and ADE should work too, Justin vid shows that. But my A chord just sounds like it's too high in this song.

I'm playing my electric unplugged at the moment though, as I haven't had time to demo/buy an amp yet. This might be a factor?

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 07:24:46 am »
Is the A chord the right one for this song? It's the only one that just doesn't seem to sit right with the tune. ...

What do you mean by 'right'?
Are you playing to the original and thinking it is in a different key to Justin's lesson?
If the D and E sound 'right' then the A should too.

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 07:54:15 am »
I mean it sounds like too high a chord for the tune. As I said, others do it with GC&D. Justin's sounds fine too, but mine doesn't sound quite the same, but I'm hitting the chords well. Could be down to different guitars/sounds acoustic vs unplugged electric. My ear isn't tuned to hearing the same thing on different types of guitars perhaps.
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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 07:58:42 am »
A, D, E are I, IV, V chords

G, C, D are also I, IV, V chords

same chord relationships and movement, different keys

I don't have my guitar or original track in front of me ... but try following along with just the root notes of those chords and see what your ears tell you

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 08:10:04 am »
I'm still trying to get my head around theory mate. What are the root notes?
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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 08:17:04 am »
the note that the chord is named after ...

the root note of the A chord is the note A, the root note of the G chord is the note G etc

so just play those notes, not the chords, and see if it sounds like they are 'right'

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 08:31:01 am »
Damn. Now I've no excuse not to open my Practical Music Theory book. At least these are the easy bits... Once it gets past key notes, I start flailing.

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 11:05:04 am »
@Drubbing

It'll make a huge difference in your understanding if you stick with it :) understanding theory takes practice just like everything else!

The original is certainly A D and E!
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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 11:56:04 am »
@Drubbing

It'll make a huge difference in your understanding if you stick with it :) understanding theory takes practice just like everything else!

The original is certainly A D and E!

Thanks Justin. Look, it's not impenetrable and I can glimpse the possibilities it opens up, so I'm not giving up on it. It's just hard still being on the outside looking in.

I'm not doubting WT isn't ADE, I think it'll probably sound a lot more familiar when I'm not unplugged. It's not like it sounds off as it is, just not how I expected it to sound.

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 05:46:36 am »
I love justins videos explaining how to play songs. They are great if you just want to get play the main chorus & verse, but they are a little superficial if you want to play the entire song. I tend to be very detail oriented so I like having basically full sheet music. In all fairness I don't have the book yet (waiting a few days until I get paid), but based on the samples of the book I think I would still need something a little more detailed to feel comfortable playing a full song. So I took some time to write out sheet music for Wild Thing. I'm posting it here in case somebody else would benefit from looking at it. I have tried to expand on justins video by references tabs online & just listening to the song over & over myself to be able to follow along with the entire song (troggs version not hendrix). I'm only on stage 1 of the beginner course & have literally never touched a guitar before this week so I can't comment on how accurate this is, but I do have some experience with other instruments so hopefully it is usable. I hope it copy & pastes from word correctly

Strumming is all down, but only on appropriate beats (not constant rhythm) 
Played at about 100 BPM

Intro
1+ 2 + 3 + 4 +     
E (play first string as open cord & let ring out as loud high pitched E for entire measure)

1  +   2  +      3  +  4 +     1 + 2 + 3 + 4 +
A       A              D D        E E E E    E E       


Verse
1  +   2  +      3  +  4 +     1  +   2  +      3  +      4     +
A       A              D D        E      E              D      D
Wild   Thing                                             You make my

1  +   2  +      3  +  4 +     1  +   2  +      3    +       4       +
A      A              D D        E        E              D      D
Heart Sing                                           You make ev-
 
1 +  2  +        3  +       4   +     1  +   2  +      3  +       4       +
A    A                 D     D          E        E              D      D
ery thing        Groo – vy

1  +   2  +      3  +  4 +     1+ 2 +  3 + 4 +
A       A              D D        E E E E     GABA [beginning of chorus]     
Wild Thing                                               


Chorus #1
GAGA                       GAGA
         Wild Thing I think I love you          but I wanna know for sure
GAGA                            GAGA
         Come on & hold me tight          I love you

[Repeat Verse #1 without lyrics]
[Repeat Verse #1 with lyrics]
[Repeat verse #1 without lyrics + Flute solo (which could potentially be played on guitar, but would be way more difficult than stage 1)]

Chorus #2
GAGA                            GAGA
        Wild Thing I think you move me       but I wanna know for sure
GAGA                                 GAGA
         Come on & hold me tight          You move me

Verse #2
1  +   2  +      3  +  4 +     1  +   2  +      3  +       4        +
A       A              D D        E        E              D      D

1  +   2  +      3  +  4 +     1+ 2 +  3 + 4 + 1 + 2 +  3 + 4 + 1 + 2 +  3 + 4 + 1+ 2 + 3 + 4 +
A       A              D D        E E E E     E E    E E E E     E E     E E E E     E E    E E E E E E E

[Repeat Verse #1 with lyrics twice as fades out]

Tips:
For G just lift all fingers off & play all 6 strings as open
For A following G in the verses, using simpler more traditional A with 3 fingers in a row is easier (anchor finger doesn’t make a difference here because you just finished playing an all open cord G rather than an A or E)

I'd appreciate any suggestions or comments

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2012, 12:00:29 am »
Why is Wild Thing in stage II? I think it's a lot easier to play than The Gambler.

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2013, 09:16:57 pm »
I love being able to play this song so early on!

The only thing I'm having difficulties with is getting the switch from open strings to A and vice versa in the chorus.  does anyone have any tips on getting this part to sound clean?

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2013, 01:24:02 am »
You will come to it later, but use your index finger to barre across the 4th, 3rd, and second strings. you will probably mute the 1st string, but as fast as you are going, if it is muted or sounds doesn't really matter.

Peek ahead at the lesson "The A chord again" or something like that.

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2013, 04:50:47 am »
I assume you are talking about the G A G A part. Int he songbook, Justin show how to play it. The G, actually G6 I think, is played with the 1-6 strings open. I strum them then play the A mini-barre The G6 then A, one strum each,  all down, holding the last A. 


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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2013, 01:10:37 pm »
Ah, i get it! That's pretty clever, and should improve the execution. thanks a lot.

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2013, 04:08:12 pm »
I assume you are talking about the G A G A part. Int he songbook, Justin show how to play it. The G, actually G6 I think, is played with the 1-6 strings open. I strum them then play the A mini-barre The G6 then A, one strum each,  all down, holding the last A.

It is actually the 1-4 strings open on the G6. Just play the top 4 strings.

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2014, 01:31:48 pm »
I have noticed something between the "normal" downstrums on the beat, there are some kind of little strums on just 1-2 strings?! is that right? how do i play this?

i think if i just strum as justin tells, there is something missing.
Do you know what i mean?


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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2014, 05:39:44 pm »
QuAntum I haven't tried this song myself.  But I experience what you've described in other songs as well.  Not that I expect my playing to sound like Justin's.  But that I often feel like I'm missing strums when I play what he explains along with what he is playing at the beginning of the video.

My thoughts (could be wrong) is that he adds a quick upstrum in places that feel right in the song.  This happens particularly at the end of a bar especially changing between verse and chorus.  At least that's what I think I've heard in the early songs  I've tried.

Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in.
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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2014, 02:33:36 am »
I have noticed something between the "normal" downstrums on the beat, there are some kind of little strums on just 1-2 strings?! is that right? how do i play this?

i think if i just strum as justin tells, there is something missing.
Do you know what i mean?



Yes, Justin misses out a quick UD in between the beats 2 and 4. This is a beginners version, it's aim is to get you playing the song, and help develop good timing. Squeezing in embellishments like that extra few strums is hard to learn for beginners, throws off timing, and would detract from the aim of the lesson.

There are lots of beginner versions that keep things a bit simpler. Best to learn those first before you think about trying to sound like the recording. Which is often a waste of time IMO.

You often find a lot of your favourite music has guitar overdubs and is impossible to replicate exactly. Lay down Sally is a good example. There's 3 guitar overdubs running through that. A beginners or acoustic version will simplify it, to allow one player to play it.

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2014, 09:43:31 am »
I'm trying to learn The Troggs - Wild Thing
There are some questionable things on that post though. The Slashes mostly.
For an example something like this:
A   D    E
/ / / /  / / / /
This element is quite new to me. And  it goes on and on throughout the whole piece in various places.
How am I to understand it?

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2014, 09:56:45 am »
Think it means two beats of A followed by two of D, and finally four of E. All down strums. If you listen to the song you'll get the timing.
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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2017, 06:27:12 pm »
What's the foot tapping like in this song? I assume it's consistent 1,2,3 and 4, but what happens with the a bit more advanced version where the strumming on the D chord is faster? And because the strumming on the D happens a bit later is it actually 1,2,3,4 and 5? And are both two strums on one foot tap?

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2017, 10:44:29 pm »
You tap to the beat, not to the strumming pattern

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Re: BS-210 • Wild Thing - The Troggs
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2017, 05:39:27 pm »
I know, but are the strums on the D chord done only during the 4th beat?

 

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