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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 11:40:32 am »
Just amazing! Thank you :) Nice cover!
I play the F part like this:


Difference here (*)


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-4-------------4--------
------------3-----------
--------2----------2----
-----4------4-----------
----------------------2-
-0----------------------


...but i will try your version ;)
Anyway...just awesome :D

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 03:17:45 pm »
I need help how to tune strings to  F/Bb ....  with a normal guitar tuner?
I tuned my guitar in OPEN G and then when i put capo on the 3rd fret i dont know how to check if the guitar is in tune.

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 03:39:34 pm »
Check if your tuner has a chromatic mode. if it does you should be able to use the tuning notes justin provided with the capo.

If it doesn't, it's worth picking up a few manual tuning methods (justin covers some of the most common in the basics but there are a few more you can pick up with a little research.
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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 03:57:00 pm »
As I've seen in another video, could that chord between the Gm and the Bb be an F/A? I'm not sure if it's correct but it sounds very logical.
Like, transpose it up a step and you get the very common Am G/B C walk-up.
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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2011, 04:38:38 pm »
I need help how to tune strings to  F/Bb ....  with a normal guitar tuner?
I tuned my guitar in OPEN G and then when i put capo on the 3rd fret i dont know how to check if the guitar is in tune.

Thank you



Hi Vasja,
I put the capo on and check every string by fretting it on a the nearest E,A,D,G or B.

Example:
We know the 6th string should be a F.
We know fret 2 behind the capo should be a G (full step from F).


So we have:

6th: F   -> 2nd fret G
5th: Bb  -> 1st fret B
4th: F   -> 2nd fret G
3rd: Bb  -> 1st fret B
2nd: D   -> open
1st: F   -> 2nd fret G


Not perfect (it´s not 100% accurate) but it works ;)

Edit: Relating to my first post: I play the F part now like justin teached it ;)

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 10:46:54 pm »
Hey guys

Why can't we tune it directly with the capo on ?

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 11:43:21 pm »
Hi Moriador,

you can ;)
Be sure to tune every string from "low to high" (low tension to higher tension).
If you reduce the string tension with a capo (tune down), some strings can stuck on the capo and slide down later (out of tune).

That´s why it´s the easiest way to tune the guitar first, then put the capo on and do the fine tuning (from low to high).

Next problem Vasja descriped:
Many cheap tuners show only the "basic" notes E, A, D, G and B.
That´s why some people need the little "trick" from my last post to tune to F and Bb.

I have some problems to express myself properly in English.
I hope you understand what I mean. :)

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2011, 08:58:35 pm »
I´m afraid to strecht my strings so much that they break...
what should I tune the string in ? open E something? just putting the capo higher?
I´m completely lost :P
please say it like EADGBe, in the new tones
Ty :)

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 09:05:14 pm »
I´m afraid to strecht my strings so much that they break...
what should I tune the string in ? open E something? just putting the capo higher?
I´m completely lost :P
please say it like EADGBe, in the new tones
Ty :)

Thick -> D G D G B D <- thin

Thinnest string and thickest two strings *lower* than standard by 2 semitones.

With the capo on the 3rd fret, the notes become:

Thick -> F Bb F Bb D F <- thin

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2011, 01:32:47 pm »
i'm struggling with the strumming in the corus, is Justin playing a slap?

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2011, 01:56:03 pm »
Yes, he's playing a slap. But I'm not particularly sure if that's in the original. I personally don't play it like that anyway.
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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2011, 01:30:16 am »
Amazing song and thank you for this lesson.

I'm really struggling getting to grips with the strumming rhythm in the chorus at 10min 08sec in the video.  Here's what is sounds like to me in terms of U (up), D (down), X (slap)  but clearly I'm getting this wrong: 

(Bar chord) D (F chord) D D U X (Bar chord) D D U X (open chord) D D U X (Bar chord) D (open) D (Bar chord) D

Would appreciate if someone could share their thoughts on this?

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2011, 11:03:25 pm »
I've been struggling with this also but this is what i'm playing and it sounds ok to me
DUXD(on the F chord)then the same on the one finger bar chord
then DUX on the three finger chord then
D(one finger bar) D (open) D(one finger bar)

for the "i forget, forget the movie song" bit i play the last two lines but stay on the open chord at the end.

It sounds more like a slap in the lesson that it does when Justin plays it at speed at the end, i've also tried just relaxing the strings a bit without any muting with the strumming hand and thought it sounded ok

If anyone has other strumming patterns for this please let us strugglers have them.
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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2011, 07:37:20 pm »
Awesome song, Awesome lesson, Thanks Justin!

I was looking at Knopfler's "A night in London" version of the song and it looks like Knopfler plays the third fret from the capo first finger second string for the D Minor like chord..also on the weird chords when it goes "when're you gonna realize..." part are also visible in the video and they look quite different from what Justin has suggested..I can't quite sus out what he's exactly playing..any suggestions people?

Cheers,
Srini

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2011, 10:33:12 am »
Thank you, Justin, for this awesome lesson!
I just can't stop playing this song. And this lesson was also the reason, that I bought a Resonator-Guitar (had an eye on it for quite a while...).
It's a Recording-King model RM-998-1D-FE and sounds really great for that affordable price.

OK, I would like to post a link, regarding the uncertainty with the end of the refrain:

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/d/dire_straits/romeo_and_juliet_ver7_tab.htm

I watch also that vid on youtube and I think the cords in that link above are right. Also the complete notation is very exact.

Keep on keepin' on

cheers Michael


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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2012, 05:08:59 pm »
It would be really nice for an insight into some of the strumming pattern, especially at the beginning
"sing a street serenade" point. A lot going on in a fraction of a second that I can't figure. (I got to up+click/down but not all strings/chord change and full down, but its not right!?!?!.....)

Once that effect is figured rest should fall into place.... help pls

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2012, 03:44:55 pm »
@jb, You might try recording that part and slowing it down to see what's happening?
...where the deer and the antelope play.  Well, they're not really playing.  They're fleeing in terror.

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2013, 01:11:12 pm »
Hi!
This link doesn't work :( RF-018-RomeoAndJuliet.php
Can anybody repair it ? :(

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2013, 01:26:44 pm »
the link in post 1 of this thread works

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2013, 02:31:38 pm »
It doesn't work on my pc...

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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2013, 02:42:24 pm »
Yes, i've tried it from the main site, and still nothing... Can you put it on other hosting?

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2013, 10:17:39 pm »
I need help how to tune strings to  F/Bb ....  with a normal guitar tuner?
I tuned my guitar in OPEN G and then when i put capo on the 3rd fret i dont know how to check if the guitar is in tune.

Thank you

Yes the manual methods as Tourniquet says.  A different option is to buy a chronomatic tuner then it shows you the actual fretted notes based on the capo.  I bought a "Snark" clip on tuner for about $6.00. It's worth it to me and quite accurate for personal use.

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Re: RF-018 • Romeo And Juliet - Dire Straits
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2014, 03:08:58 am »
I'm new to alternate tunings and I am curious about something.  What is the reason behind tuning to open G and then use the capo on the third fret?  Why not tune straigh to Open Bb?  Is it to avoid straining the first string?

 

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