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IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« on: December 03, 2010, 12:13:32 pm »
Questions or suggestions for songs that might be good at this stage using only things covered so far!

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2010, 09:05:08 pm »
I tried to transcribe Dont Look back in Anger - Oasis, but could not get the chords sound right while playing along to the record.. is this song in any alternate tuning on the original recording?

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 08:18:09 pm »
Oasis songs quite often use a capo - try that
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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 09:23:55 pm »
Don't Look Back in Anger is in standard tuning and doesn't use a capo as far as I'm aware.

A good song for this stage would be Oasis' All Around The World as it uses all barre chords (I think). The only stumbling block is it contains a couple of key changes.

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 09:51:23 pm »
Thanks for the tip Iris!

I checked my chords on a few different sites and they were almost correct. I found a karaoke-version on spotify and it sounds right when I play along with standardtuning.

I found this on wikipedia:
"The song has a tuning of A at 455 Hz instead of the standard 440 Hz which is used on live performances. The same special tuning can be heard in the song "Some Might Say".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Back_in_Anger


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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2010, 05:22:24 am »
It's not a guitar song, but Rent by Pet Shop Boys is all E-shaped major and minor chords.

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2010, 03:33:21 pm »
I have done the JUSTIN method foundation 1 and managed to get the E shape major and minor barre progressions and the A minor pentatonic solo mostly correct so decided to move onto trying to transcribe Don't look back in anger. I have had a few goes at this in the transcribe programe and it all just sounds like mush to me I can't even pick out a base note to give me a start.
So should I
1. persevere with attempting to transcribe songs like this or
2. Continue with the Justin method throughout the course untill my transcribing skills improve.
This has been my first attempt at transcribing

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2010, 03:50:03 pm »
Hi Dropd,

I also came across this problem, see my post above.
There is something going on with the tuning on the recording, i transcribed a karaokeversion on Spotify and it worked just fine.
When you play along with the record in standardtuning your guitar sounds completely out of tune.

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2010, 03:56:29 pm »
Another tune that also uses just E-shape barrechords is Everlast - Black Jesus,
not that hard to work out because its repeats same 4 chords all the time..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiUTfk3pkII

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2010, 09:52:22 pm »
If you get real stuck, a good thing to do is to try the lesson in the Trascribing area, called Finding The Bass notes!

That should help get your ear tuned! ;)
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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2010, 05:55:00 am »
Everlong, by the Foo Fighters, is a good one for this stage. It uses 16th note strumming, octaves, and proto-barre chords. It sounds great on acoustic or electric, solo or with a band. It's in drop D, and once you do that, it's not too hard to work it out yourself - and there's heaps of really good versions on youtube.

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 10:54:56 am »
A few more songs for this stage - All Along the Watchtower, for which Justin has a lesson. Also Creep by Radiohead. If you play the acoustic version off of the My Iron Lung EP it's just G, B, C and Cmin, with 16th note strumming. The electric one uses octaves too.

For the Aussies, there's Heavy Heart by You Am I too, which mixes open and E-shape barre chords.
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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2011, 03:19:21 pm »
Yeah, the tuning for don't look back in anger is a little off the normal A = 440hz which is why no matter what you do you can't seem to find the right chords! ;D  You can still sort of get them, but they sound pretty off, even if they're right.

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2012, 01:54:29 am »
Thanks for the additional song suggestions everyone. Any more you can suggest that cover what's learned in Int. Meth. Found. 1? I'm not too keen on any that Justin suggests. Not to transcribe, but to play. We need an intermediate method songbook!  ;D
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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2013, 10:09:11 pm »
The Pyramid Song by Radiohead uses only the E-shape barre chord (Maj  & Min) and one open chord, it's a pretty simple sequence, not too much harder than the J.U.S.T.I.N ear training stuff for this level.

It's a piano on the song but it sounds great on guitar. Really nice song to play.  :)


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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2017, 06:25:48 pm »
Anyone know off the top of their heads if any of the songs in the Beginner book have e-shaped bar chords that could be used in this section?

I'm generally more familiar with the songs in the book than any of the foundation 1 songs Justin listed on the website.  TIA.
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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2017, 07:19:46 pm »
Anyone know off the top of their heads if any of the songs in the Beginner book have e-shaped bar chords that could be used in this section?

I'm generally more familiar with the songs in the book than any of the foundation 1 songs Justin listed on the website.  TIA.

Not sure I understand the question.

Remember everyone's favourite - F? This is a E maj shaped barre chord, which I assume is why Justin stuck the damn thing in the BC to ease us gently into it. :D





https://www.justinguitar.com/en/IM-111-EShapeMajorMinorBarreChords.php


So a partial answer to your question is 'any song in the Beginner's Songbook that has the Dreaded F Chord in it' - which includes the Stage 6 songs, and beyond.
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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2017, 08:12:47 pm »
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Any song you want.
eg
Stage 1 - Three Little Birds A D E
Open E Barre A at 5th Barre D at 10th
Stage 3 - Working Class Hero
G barre at 3rd Am barre at 5th open D or D barre at 10th

Just a couple to get you thinking - note song wise you need to be a bit more intuitive in the IM and start thinking for yourself, especially on how and where to apply these shapes.

Apply same logic to all songs mixing major and minor E shaped barre, just find the root you want on the 6th string. Same for those stage 5 blues and 7th. You know the shapes work the chords out and apply.

Gets easier once you know the 5th rooted A shaped barres as well but you can pretty much play any song in the BC using these shapes.

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2017, 02:53:15 pm »
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Any song you want.
eg
Stage 1 - Three Little Birds A D E
Open E Barre A at 5th Barre D at 10th
Stage 3 - Working Class Hero
G barre at 3rd Am barre at 5th open D or D barre at 10th

Just a couple to get you thinking - note song wise you need to be a bit more intuitive in the IM and start thinking for yourself, especially on how and where to apply these shapes.

Apply same logic to all songs mixing major and minor E shaped barre, just find the root you want on the 6th string. Same for those stage 5 blues and 7th. You know the shapes work the chords out and apply.

Gets easier once you know the 5th rooted A shaped barres as well but you can pretty much play any song in the BC using these shapes.

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Thanks.  My question was related to Justin's comment to playing songs that have the "E-shaped bar chord" here:

https://www.justinguitar.com/en/IM-117-Songs-IF1.php

I misinterpreted his sentence about finding songs with that particular shape, I read it that he was saying only certain songs use it when it is the other way around - all songs can use that shape when playing chords instead of using an open chord, its where you choose to apply it.
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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2017, 07:02:33 pm »
- all songs can use that shape when playing chords instead of using an open chord, its where you choose to apply it.

Yes and you'll find sometimes the open chord sounds better than playing a barre. Its all down to building experience. For example you could play an E as an E shaped barre chord up at the 12 th fret 6 th string root but find an open E suits that particular song better. Or an A shaped E at the 8th fret with a 5 th string root which you'll get in IM stage 2.

What I do is mix it up a bit for the sake of practice. I'll play a song from the BC that I know well, using E shapes A shapes and Open chords swapping around during verses or chorus, messing about with rhythm patterns, just for the experience to hear what works and what doesn't.
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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2020, 04:43:57 pm »
Hi, Nice to be here-)
Am doing Intermediate Course and cannot find text lesson IM117 on the website although Justin says in video lesson IM 118 that it is there ... Anybody help??? Thank you from a non-techie!

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Re: IM-117 • Songs for Foundation 1
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2020, 04:51:16 pm »
Welcome to the forum ...

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