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Offline Humbuck

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Condenser Microphone
« on: May 30, 2010, 05:52:06 am »
Hey, I'm graduating from college in about a week, and as such my parents decided to grab me a gift :).  I knew immediately I wanted some recording equipment that's better than the cheap USB mic I have now, but I'm not quite sure what condenser mic to grab.  I was looking at the Rode NT2-A Condenser Mic, but I'm not really sure if that's a good choice or not.  My price range for the mic tops out right around $400 USD.

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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 08:05:03 am »
Have a look at the Shure SM57. It's used by pros all over the world and it will last forever!
The SM57-X2u has a XLR to USB adapter onboard. Should be around 200$.
Or get a single Mic and a usb audio interface like a E-MU 0404 wich is also highly recommend here.
I would go for the second option.
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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 09:02:59 am »
Justin recommends a few condensers here
http://www.justinguitar.com/en/RT-004-MicrophoneGuide.php
including the one you're looking at.
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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 11:02:11 am »
Humbuck-

A point to consider: Most condenser mics will require a DI box or interface capable of supplying 48v phantom Power, so you'll need more than just the mic.

Nt2a is a good choice, though; It's very well thought of.

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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 03:20:20 pm »
MAdcat, SM57 is a dynamic mic.


Some suggestions to try out..... Do -not- let price be your guide.

ADK A6  ~$250
MXL MCA SP-1 ~$50
Blue Bluebird ~$300
KARMA K35 ~$200

also check out
Studio Projects
Audio Technica
Rode other than the one you mention as well


There are just so many really good choices that it's hard to say.

By far though the most important question is what is it's intended use?

Electric
Acoustic
Vocal
Other



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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 03:54:40 pm »
I know TB, just missed the word condenser.  ::)

But why it has to be a condenser mic?
Ok, the sound is better, but you'll need a power supply and the diaphragm is quiet damagable. I wouldn't record an electric guitar with one.
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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 05:48:33 pm »
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I wouldn't record an electric guitar with one.

Perhaps..., but many recording engineers over the years have.

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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 06:05:15 pm »
I know TB, just missed the word condenser.  ::)

But why it has to be a condenser mic?
Ok, the sound is better, but you'll need a power supply and the diaphragm is quiet damagable. I wouldn't record an electric guitar with one.

I guess I should have mentioned that I'm already planning to pick buy a used Apogee Duet off of an old friend, and pick up an SM57 with it (with my own cash, figured I might as well have the rents pick up the tab on the more expensive mic ::)).  I'm planning to record both acoustic and electric, but the vast majority will be electric (my voice makes babies cry so I don't really have to worry about trying to record that).

Also, I'll definitely look into the mics you suggested TB thanks for all of the suggestions!

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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 06:28:02 pm »
TB, no offend was ment by my posts.

I think all mics have their advantages and disadvantages.
I just don't see the need for paying a lot of money for a good condenser when you can have a very good dynamic mic for half the price.
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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 06:45:47 pm »
None taken

Yes, all mics do have advantages and dis-advantages. Thus relying on one is never a good idea.

The point is there are many very good LDC mics now that would have cost thousands of dollars years ago. Some for as cheap as an SM57.

An SM57 is generally not classified as a "very good" dynamic mic. Very good dynamics generally cost several hundred dollars. EV RE30, Shure SM7, etc..

There's nothing wrong with an SM57, everyone should have one. With today's technology and prices everyone should have a LDC and SDC as well.

Even if budget were a concern you can still get a LDC for the price of a 57 and it will be more versatile. Unless you only intend to record say a snare drum or rock electric guitar.




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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 07:06:33 pm »
Got your point, TB.
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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2010, 12:32:42 pm »
Try to get another 100 together and get an Audio-Technica AT4050. Or don't, and find a good used one. Just my .02 ;)
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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2011, 12:41:36 am »
Reviving this old post..

I used to have six AKG C451 condenser mics and really liked them. I sold all my gear a few years ago so last week I went looking for a condenser mic to record my acoustic guitar. I couldn't spend $500+ on a good condenser mic. For $160.00 US I ended up with an Audio Technica Pro 37. It has flat frequency response with a rise between 4K and 10K. The signal to noise is only 65db @ 1Pa but if you're close-micing I don't think it would be an issue. (I didn't notice any noise when micing from around 6-8 inches away.)
I probably wouldn't use this mic for a hi-hat or overhead because the frequency drops off pretty steep at around 12K, but if you're wanting an affordable condenser mic for recording acoustic guitar, I think the Pro 37 would be a decent choice.
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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2011, 07:32:52 pm »
One trend I notirce with all AT mics is their S/N ratio. My discontinued AT825 stereo condenser has one of 60dB (which is the worst I've ever seen a microphone rated at). It's best for louder sources.
I would have recommended an Oktava. ;D
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Re: Condenser Microphone
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2011, 08:55:46 pm »
It's best for louder sources.

Just out of curiosity; Did you use it on "louder sources?"
(a lot of condenser mics like to clip when they get around really loud sources.)
« Last Edit: January 20, 2011, 09:14:24 pm by Scooter Trash »
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