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TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« on: February 24, 2010, 04:09:29 pm »
« Last Edit: May 16, 2011, 04:10:53 pm by justinguitar »
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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 05:36:47 pm »
Hey just a little tip: Is there a possibility to put a spoiler tag in the lesson sites? That way it is easier to hide the tips and also prevents accidiently scrolling down and seeing the chords.

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 11:49:11 pm »
what is a spoiler tag?

I get the concept, but not sure how to do it!

J
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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 02:20:30 am »
Well Justin, I'm not tech savvy but...

A simple solution would be some big bold letters that say something to the effect of:
DO NOT SCROLL DOWN PAST THIS POINT OR YOU WILL SEE THE ANSWERS AND THIS EXCERCISE WILL BE POINTLESS
followed by a few hits of the return key to add a white space buffer.

Glad I could be of service  :P

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 09:03:22 am »
Is "Song 2" by Blur??



"Song 2

Song 2- Blue @ iTunes

Song 2 has a great easy power chord riff. It's lots of fun to play and great for getting you moving your power chord shape around quickly. And cos it repeats a lot it should get into your ear pretty quick!"



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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 10:44:57 am »
Not a question. I just want to say that your "transcribing lessons" (this one include) are awesome! Now i can trancribe most songs i like. I don't use tabs or songbooks anymore.

it's a real pleasure when you can finally play a song just by listening to it. Yesterday evening i've trancribed "Wonderful tonight" (a live version). When you can play the same licks as Clapton and the the same time, it's great!

Thank you Justin.

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 02:28:08 pm »
what is a spoiler tag?

I get the concept, but not sure how to do it!

J
In certain forums there is a function which allows you to hide some text and some other has to click on the "spoiler" to make the message appear. A nice work around is to simple match the color of the text to the color of the background, so we have to mark the text to see it.
Anyways I really like your transcribing lessons, great work as always!  :)

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 03:52:33 pm »
Hey just a little tip: Is there a possibility to put a spoiler tag in the lesson sites? That way it is easier to hide the tips and also prevents accidiently scrolling down and seeing the chords.

+1

I just wanted to see what songs were listed, but you see all the hints when you do this.

How about having some links near each song that open another page with the hint on ? (Just that one hint on each page)

Like:

Teenage Kicks Hint 1 Hint 2 Give up!

If you wanted to get fancy, you could have pop-up boxes.

Thanks anyway for a great resource - just suggestions for the finishing touches! ;)

Andy

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 01:13:09 am »
Another great lesson. Almost makes me thing that having the record company give you grief might turn out to be a good thing.  They'll probably get cross with you for writing the chords or something, too!

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2010, 09:57:36 pm »
Thanks for the lesson Justin, another great one as always.

Just managed to transcribe The Undertones Teenage Kicks on my first attempt without using the tips ;D

When I checked it at first I did think I had got it wrong because I used the (1st Derry Demos '78) version from The Anthology and it would appear to have been shifted up a semitone!! Tried the album version and got the correct result.

A silly question....but should this be played across both 5th and 6th strings or just on 6th string, using both seems more sensible to me but im not sure.

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2010, 10:53:36 am »
Hey just a little tip: Is there a possibility to put a spoiler tag in the lesson sites? That way it is easier to hide the tips and also prevents accidiently scrolling down and seeing the chords.
I had the same idea. This could be done with a small snippet of javascript. An the page would look something likes this:

Song name 1
show tip 1
show tip 2


Song 2
show tip 1
show tip 2


Clicking "show tip" would expand that tip.

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2010, 02:20:13 pm »
DO NOT SCROLL DOWN PAST THIS POINT OR YOU WILL SEE GUESSES AND THIS EXCERCISE WILL BE POINTLESS

I think I worked this song out in about 2 hours without using any of the hints.  Pretty happy with myself for that accomplishment.  A few questions to check my work:

Song Structure - I written it out as follows:
Intro - Verse - Chorus - Bridge - Verse - Chorus - Outro

Is that about right?

In the bridge I hear the intro <<<REMOVED BY JUSTIN>>>

Would all this be about right?
Also - what key would this song be in and why?

« Last Edit: March 02, 2010, 06:24:16 pm by justinguitar »

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2010, 06:26:29 pm »
@Vincent - don't put the answers in this thread dude! spoils it for people that need help and want to read the thread... but there is not a suitable place for you to put your ideas... so kinda my fault.

And you didn't say what song it was...

What we need though is a place for you to add your own transcriptions, but I can't host that here or I might get the copyright nazi's on my case again... let me think about what to do about this...

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2010, 08:07:33 pm »
Sorry - no harm intended.

My transcrition sounds good - so I'm happy with it and don't really need the answer - however as a beginner "transcriber" it would be nice to find a solution where I can check to see if I am correct to reinforce proper progress.

Any place reputable where I can legally buy a TAB of a song to check my work against until I feel confident in my own transcriptions?

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2010, 11:09:20 pm »
or I might get the copyright nazi's on my case again...

LMFAO that made my day.  ;D

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2010, 02:46:00 am »
All right - I hope I can phrase this question properly and apologize in advance....

Song 2 by Blur

I came up with the proper progression BUT.....my chords were "sharp" where they apparently should have been written in the corresponding "Flats".

If this question makes sense - can anyone give a general explanation why that is?

Actually - I think I know why - I am assuming that its because the "key" or scale that the song is in does not have sharps. If I look at my major scale chart that I worked out (from J's Pratical Theory) - my sharp chords don't fit anywhere but the progression does match the notes found in one of the major scale - does that mean thats the key its in.

WOW - hard to ask a question without giving it away.....Maybe have a seperate thread with Spoiler in the title so we can discuss the actual chords and keys and get explanations without giving it all away to those still working it out?

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2011, 08:31:25 pm »
To people who use a transcription software programme: what speed did you put the song at? I'm using one (don't know what it's called, my brother who is a computer genius recommended it) which I have mostly learned the basics of how to use but when I slow songs down they just sound all mushy and a lot more difficult to hear the chords in. I've tried it at various different speeds but it just always sounds weird and I can't hear it properly.

Is this a common problem? What kind of speed did you find the most helpful.

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2011, 01:10:14 pm »

Hey McG,

I use a program called Audacity.  It's free on the web somewhere. Search the forum.  I can change the tempo (not the speed) down to -50% and have it sound okay.  Okay, enough to transcribe most stuff anyway.  Much slower than that it sounds mushy.  I hear Transcribe software is better.

Some stuff with distortion and lots of background is just tough to transcibe. 

Just to clear, when you change the speed, you change the pitch and the tempo.  You just want to change the tempo and keep the same pitch.  Thank goodness software will do that. 

(Makes me wonder how they did it in the old days? Slow the 45's down to 33 1/3?)
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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2012, 07:16:10 pm »
I'm confused on notation when writing in the notes. For Song 2 by Blur, are the chords written as flats or sharps? Is the key signature going to be C or would it be different based on what the chords actually are?

I don't want to spoil it by listing the chords, but you get the point...

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2012, 08:24:01 pm »
You can use whatever you're comfortable with. You can re-write your enharmonic equivalents according to it's key signature. I think. :P
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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2013, 09:17:23 pm »
Could someone tell me the aim for Monkey Gone To Heaven? Is it to work out all the bass notes or just the power chords in the intro and the chorus? I don't wanna look at the answers to find out.

Thanks.

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2013, 08:17:01 pm »
Could someone tell me the aim for Monkey Gone To Heaven? Is it to work out all the bass notes or just the power chords in the intro and the chorus? I don't wanna look at the answers to find out.

Thanks.
I did the whole lot anyway.

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Re: TR-201 • Listening To The Bass Note
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2017, 08:23:28 am »
First, I really enjoy studying with your lessons.
I did the transcribing of "this monkey..." by the Pixies, as this is the song I know best out of the list of songs offered in this. After I got the chords I thought I checked Tip1 and I think there's a chord missing.
I think that on top of the 4 chords written there (no spoilers for forum readers) there's an A, just before the chorus.
Am I right?

 

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