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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2012, 08:27:46 pm »
Hello!
I love the sound of this pattern, and I hear a lot of variations of pick-strum in music. But I am having trouble getting my accuracy to improve with this when the chord root is on the 4th or 5th string. It seems like about 7 times out of 8 I'll hit the right root, but those misses are hard to stamp out. Is there any way to help "feel" where to pick? Or do I just need to slow waaay down below 60 bpm, like to 30 or so, until I've got perfect accuracy and then wind it back up? How've some of you overcome this challenge?

This is the one big thing that's keeping me from graduating the beginners course!

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2012, 07:49:16 am »
First off, occasional misses in alternate bass strumming are kind of normal, it happens to the best of them ;)

Slowing down is good, but only as far as makes sense. You should practice slightly below your limit to gradually extend your "comfort zone".

What helped me with this when I started out was doing picking excercises to learn to hit specific strings, e.g. (string numbers) 6 5 6 4 6 3 6 2 6 1 and back again, or 6 1 5 1 4 1 3 1 2 1 and back. You can make them up as you go along (variety is key, you're practicing accuracy, not learning a pattern).

The rest of it is really just practice. You need to get your picking hand to pick the correct root note without thinking much about it.

One useful trick: like in normal strumming, try muting the 6th string with your thumb when it's not wanted, esp. when it's a chord that doesn't contain the note E. That way, if e.g. you're playing a D chord an accidentally hitting the low E, you get a little "thud" at most, but you don't turn the chord into something different.

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2012, 01:14:26 pm »
Hi Freokid,

Good noticing. :) Generally, all chords have bass note on the thickest string that you play.

Having said that, as long as you play the right notes from the chords (in any order) it is still the chord and these are referred to as inversions.

A couple of specific types of inversions that will be useful for you to learn in time will be slash chords and triads - if you go to the justinguitar site and click on chords in the left hand side index all will be revealed :)

Edit: or to save time http://www.justinguitar.com/en/CH-000-Chords.php

Hi, everyone =)

I got a bit confused after watching the video, why did Justin say the bass note of A minor is on the 5th string?
Link to the video: http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-175-RhythmBasics5.php (from 2:24)

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2012, 02:53:11 pm »
Hi, everyone =)

I got a bit confused after watching the video, why did Justin say the bass note of A minor is on the 5th string?
Link to the video: http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-175-RhythmBasics5.php (from 2:24)

Hi, and welcome :)

Do you remember when you learnt the A, A7 and A minor chords that you had to avoid playing the thick E string (6th String)?

It's the same here - The lowest note in the normal A minor chord is the open A string, so that is the one that's used as the bass note.

Any clearer?

Andy

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2012, 01:42:04 am »
Hi, everyone =)

I got a bit confused after watching the video, why did Justin say the bass note of A minor is on the 5th string?
Link to the video: http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-175-RhythmBasics5.php (from 2:24)

Hi, and welcome :)

Do you remember when you learnt the A, A7 and A minor chords that you had to avoid playing the thick E string (6th String)?

It's the same here - The lowest note in the normal A minor chord is the open A string, so that is the one that's used as the bass note.

Any clearer?

Andy

Hi Andy, thanks for your prompt reply  :D

Just to make sure I can understand, is the bass note for D major chord the open D string? But then this is not the case for G major chord. (we have to play the open E string instead) ?

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2012, 08:57:23 am »
Just to make sure I can understand, is the bass note for D major chord the open D string? But then this is not the case for G major chord. (we have to play the open E string instead) ?

Yes, the bass note for the D chord is the D string.

For the G chord, it isn't the open E sting - When you're playing a G chord, the thick E string is fretted at the 3rd fret, so when you pluck the E string you get a G note - the correct bass note for the G chord (rather than the E note that the open string would give).

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2012, 04:35:59 pm »
Just wondering: on the end of that lesson, a more fancy strumming patern is shown. Is there any video that talks about these more advanced strum/picking paterns? I  bought the Really Usefull strumming 1 dvd, which gives some more details on how to alternate the base, which is also nice to do. Maybe there are some extra's on this in the second strumming dvd?

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2012, 05:02:04 pm »
What he does towards the end is (partially) 16th note picking/strumming. The 16th note strumming as such is covered in the intermediate foundation course and on RUST II, but I'm not sure if these little tricks are on the DVD.

It's a walk-up / walk-down, where he picks an ascending or descending bass line and strums in between. It's pretty neat, but your fretting hand needs to be pretty fast as well, so more of an intermediate thing.

Did you arrive at 16th note strumming yet?


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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2012, 01:45:51 pm »
I did not arrive at 16th note strumming officialy...i did experiment with it when playing some songs. I'll just buy the second strumming MP4 and see what it has in store.

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2013, 03:19:52 am »
Hey guys, this is my first post   ;D

  I'm having trouble with chord changes while playing this pattern.  For example, when playing DM to GM, I can only get a good sound when leaving my fingers down until the last possible moment. I've actually never gotten  a perfect, sustaining change with this pattern.  Does this make sense?

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2013, 07:11:26 am »
With alternate bass struming in it's typical form, you really need to be pretty fast with the chord changes. There are two little cheats (not sure Justin mentioned them):

1) You can do the up-strum on open strings while the rest of your fingers are changing chords. Don't go for all the strings on the up-stroke (sounds horrible), just the higher (sounding) strings.

2) You don't always have to play the up-stroke as well. I started to learn this kind of strumming very early on, but with just the pick on the bass note and the down strum, and added the up-strum later when my chord chamges had become faster.

That said, of course it's a good idea to practice this strumming properly and to try and become fast enough for it. But when it comes to making a song sound good with it, a little cheating might still be okay ;)

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2018, 02:59:21 am »
Do you guys just practice this strumming pattern with the strings muted like the other patterns or do you try to do it with.the chord changes right from.the start?

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2019, 11:23:48 am »
Hello people,

So I got there, and while previous rythm guitar lessons went very flawlessly, this one is hard for me. I continued on my journey and have the same kind of problems with https://www.justinguitar.com/guitar-lessons/12-bar-blues-style-bc-183 as well.

So simply put, I'm doing it pretty well when hitting the bass note on the 6th string. That's fine, I got the rythm part right. Ths issue appears when I'm starting to want and hit another string as the bass note, say 5th string for an Am or 4th for a D.

Then my pick is all over the place. I sometimes pick the wrong one - often the string below the one I wanted. Sometimes I will pick it but with one more string - below or above it. And when trying to hit the other strings, it happens quite often I do hit the bass string again as well.

So trying to continue on my journey since it's the only point keeping me from getting to stage 8, I started to train the lessons from there as well. And then the 12 bar blues style gave me the same problem - I'm either hitting the two wanted strings so slowly they sound separately, almost arpeggiated... And if I'm doing it stronger I lose the nice touch but also hit strings below. Which are muted, so it sounds ok I guess, but it's not the goal of the lesson.

So, how can I get to improve my one string picking when it's not the 6th string? Has Justin made a video specifically to give advices on this topic? Should I simply practice at a VERY slow pace and see if it improves over the time?

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2019, 06:44:41 pm »
Jerry did you miss the very first lesson on the D chord where Justin explains
the stum/pick/stum exercise?
The only way to get more accuracy with your stumming hand is to practice
accuracy slowly without mistakes.
Practice picking the bass note then stum the chord then pick the next bass note
stum the chord. Only picking and strumming the string you want.
Every day for 5 minutes for a week and it will become second nature.

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Re: BC-175 • Rhythm Guitar Basics 5
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2019, 07:45:21 am »
Jerry did you miss the very first lesson on the D chord where Justin explains
the stum/pick/stum exercise?
The only way to get more accuracy with your stumming hand is to practice
accuracy slowly without mistakes.
Practice picking the bass note then stum the chord then pick the next bass note
stum the chord. Only picking and strumming the string you want.
Every day for 5 minutes for a week and it will become second nature.

Hi and thanks :)

Yes I saw that course, and if practicing at 60 bpm I usually hit 3/4 well, but it's because it's very slow - when inserting even a little bit of energy in my movement, I immediately hit more strings than the one I was going for.

It's now something like two weeks that I'm doing this training 5 minutes at least every day, going for a chord progression like G - D - Am - C and back to G. I don't really see any noticeable improvements, that's why I was wondering if I was doing something wrong. But I guess I just have to stick to practicing it at 60 bpm and I will eventually get it right, hopefully.

 

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