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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #250 on: April 03, 2019, 12:32:53 pm »
You mean memorize the chord progressions of songs?

No.

Play along at slow speed (or even full speed if you can) with the chords in front of you on a page / in a book / on video with Justin / along with the App.

Memorisation comes with time.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #251 on: April 03, 2019, 12:33:56 pm »
No.

Play along at slow speed (or even full speed if you can) with the chords in front of you on a page / in a book / on video with Justin / along with the App.

Memorisation comes with time.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #252 on: April 06, 2019, 10:47:55 am »
Buy Justin’s beginner course book!!

For the first six months of learning guitar, I used Justin’s online videos and text and bought several of his songbooks. They are fantastic and I felt I was progressing well. However there were times when I wanted to revisit a lesson or go over something again or question when to move on and I found that despite using the ‘learning journey’ facility in the dashboard part of the website, I couldn’t keep track of where I was. Maybe it’s an age thing and I’m more used to ‘hard copy’! Anyway, I bought the book and hey presto using the book in conjunction with the website, I can find where I am, I can scribble notes on it and can pick it up and read without needing technology. And there’s stuff in the book that’s not online.

I’ve even bought Justin’s Intermediate Method coursebook and stored it in my guitar drawer ready for future use! (Although I have used the E shape barre chord lesson which was very helpful when tackling barre F).
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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #253 on: May 11, 2019, 01:16:34 pm »
If I had to wait until I mastered the F barre chords to move on from beginner lesson 6 it would be a couple years before I moved into beginner 7. I started Jason's lessons as an advanced beginner, but never studied the barre chords so a lot of this stuff is remedial for me. I move on from stuff I feel I already know reasonably well, and revisit things I don't know well. I revisit barre chords a lot...

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #254 on: June 14, 2019, 10:47:26 pm »
I've been working through beginner level six for almost two weeks, and the F chord is coming along. When I take my time with it, it sounds fine, but when I try to play it in a song it often sounds buzzy.

Should I move on to step 7, or should I wait until my F chord is really down pat?

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #255 on: June 15, 2019, 08:53:01 am »
You might be lucky but it'll take you ages to get your F chord (and barre chords generally) down to pat, particularly when playing songs. Some people do take to it straight away but it took me months if not a year or more to get to the point where I don't think about it. See how you get on with it in some songs but if you're comfortable you've got it as good as you can at the minute I'd move on. Plenty of songs which don't need it and you'll probably find it Bm that you'll need sooner than F.
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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #256 on: June 15, 2019, 09:18:33 am »
I agree with Rossco.

I'd suggest move on and retain a song in your practice/playing routine that includes an F.  I found it to be more fun using the chord in a song to keep working at it than doing one-minute-changes and drills.  Perhaps a slower approach but duration to get something to be usable in playing songs doesn't trouble me.

As an example House of the Rising Sun includes an F.  The other benefit of getting really familiar with HOTRS is that later in stage 8, you can move from a strummed version to a finger-picked version.  It is also 6/8 so adds that into your learning.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #257 on: June 18, 2019, 02:24:20 pm »
+1 for just playing.

++1 for playing songs you like!! Even a basic version (using 4 down strums per bar), then advance when you can

++1 for not giving up. Sometime it seems impossible, but you learn, your fingers stretch and you get there

Also, you might find that you should move on with the stages yet you can’t do the songs. Somebody on here said they play the songs around 3 stages back. Solid advice

Another tip that I took was to take lessons. I have 1 every 2 weeks and found them to make a huge difference. The course is brilliant, but to then have that feedback from a tutor is invaluable. Of course, that’s not always possible for everybody


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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #258 on: July 17, 2019, 02:37:06 pm »
Also, I don't know if it's only me, but I moved to stage 2 when I was at 40/min and the day after I added some A-D-E changes to the stage 2 lessons and I was doing them at 60-70/min. I think that's what he means with not getting stuck with perfection, everything will come easier when your focus (and tension) is on something different.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #259 on: February 06, 2020, 07:00:10 am »
I started the lessons 8 days ago and am in phase 1.
so nice to do but also frustrating that it doesn't work out the way I want.
Am now really watching to start with the A chord with the 5th string and with the D chord with the 4th string.
That is harder than I expected.
With the 1 minute changes I am now at 25. I can do more but then everything is false.

Very nice to do but I suspect that I will certainly stick to phase 1 for another 2 weeks.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #260 on: February 06, 2020, 10:08:09 am »
I started the lessons 8 days ago and am in phase 1.
so nice to do but also frustrating that it doesn't work out the way I want.
Am now really watching to start with the A chord with the 5th string and with the D chord with the 4th string.
That is harder than I expected.
With the 1 minute changes I am now at 25. I can do more but then everything is false.

Very nice to do but I suspect that I will certainly stick to phase 1 for another 2 weeks.

Keep at it and you will see improvement, I'm on stage 4 really but I'm trying to play songs beyond that too and surprised myself at taking really quickly to the Big F chord in that i could get it to ring out clearly in isolation. As you move through each stage I found most chords difficult initially with your fingers touching all the wrong strings and muting them but over time, and as your fingers toughen up and their flexibility improves, it all comes together and you start playing the impossible chords cleanly. One other thing I noted is the more chords you learn, you move from looking at each chord in isolation to realising many chord chages just need you to move one finger here or there. I find playing everyday, even if it's only for 10 or 15 minutes really helps and some days you can really see a step change in progress. It's tough at the beginning and to be fair it's just tough most of the time but all the little victories will hopefully spur you on.
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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #261 on: February 13, 2020, 10:24:21 am »
How long did you do on stage1?

Now 2.5 weeks via the app and stil don't get any further than stage 1.
The sounds are good so my fingering is good too. Only the speed won't work.
With the chord changes I rarely get above 30.
Faster will succeed but then I touch all strings or the majority does not sound good.

I am 34 years old. Maybe that's why I take longer to do it? Or is it normal that it is not good enough within 2 weeks?
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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #262 on: February 13, 2020, 10:45:24 am »
Two weeks is not a long time at all. I would suggest to keep on working through stage 1 and take a peek at stage 2 when it gets boring with stage 1. Playing guitar should be fun! But it takes a lot of practice!

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #263 on: February 14, 2020, 11:58:45 am »
How long did you do on stage1?

Now 2.5 weeks via the app and stil don't get any further than stage 1.
The sounds are good so my fingering is good too. Only the speed won't work.
With the chord changes I rarely get above 30.
Faster will succeed but then I touch all strings or the majority does not sound good.

I am 34 years old. Maybe that's why I take longer to do it? Or is it normal that it is not good enough within 2 weeks?

I can't remember how long I was on stage 1 but it was definitely longer than 2.5 weeks. Remember you're trying to do things you've never done before.
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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #264 on: February 29, 2020, 01:38:13 am »
I felt as though the moving on suggestion isn't clear enough. Should I be proficient in the songs that I am playing for lesson 2? I'm having a hard time with the 2 chord per 4 beats songs and switching chords. Should I practice some more first before moving to lesson 3?

Edit: I tried out a song and I played on on the first beat and I seemed to do better than when I was trying to play both the first and 3rd beat.

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« Reply #265 on: February 29, 2020, 11:38:02 am »
Hey guys, I've just wrapped up the Beginner's course and I'm excitedly anticipating what lies ahead in the intermediate course. But what Justin said in the last beginner lesson (BC-199) about us having to choose what area we'd like to specialise in really got me thinking.
Do I go for blues, or jazz, or rhythm? I'm someone who likes rhythm quite well and would like to progress a bit on that side, but then again, Clapton's guitar solos are quite tempting too.

This question becomes pertinent for me in view of my choice of my first electric guitar. Would a Squier Jazzmaster be better then, or a Yamaha Pacifica?(or something else that you guys could suggest that I've never heard of).
A little help here guys, with how can I choose my way forward here and what accessories and learning resources would be great for the same.
Thanks!

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #266 on: March 01, 2020, 02:51:27 pm »
Regards progression (no pun there) after the BC and IM, the Blues pretty much underpins all "modern" music ie from 1950s to modern the day and most likely a bit before that. So to broaden your foundation I'd strongly suggest the Blues Rhythm course and Blues Lead modules. Take your Clapton example, old Slowhands is not just about smoking sultry solo's he backs it up with rhythm. Learn them both and you'll have everything covered.

Consolidate the BC, then work on the IM and after that move on to those Blues courses. I'm still working on both as I got bogged down by some of life's other distractions and have stagnated for a year or so. But I'll be restarting them both this year, once my head settles down.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #267 on: March 11, 2020, 11:28:31 am »
Hi, I've been stuck on 35 changes per minute at Stage 5 for 3 weeks (G7 to C7, B7 to E, Fmaj7 to C7) and am wondering whether I should quit or move on?

I spent about one week per stage on the previous stages and was able to get to 50 and 60+ but have ground to a halt. Thanks.

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« Reply #268 on: March 11, 2020, 01:39:20 pm »
Andy

One week per stage is a bit quick IMHO but different strokes and all that. Especially if you've been learning the songs as well. But hey what do I know. ;D

As for Stage 5, 3 weeks isn't long so I'd stick with it and try and master those changes. If you've not done so already, make sure you learn plenty of from songs from the previous stages. You'll be consolidating the chords and changes from those stages and keeping yourself motivated.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #269 on: April 06, 2020, 02:26:55 am »
I’ve only begun and am struggling with the D chord in my practices.  I’m not giving up! When should one move to the next lesson?  Should lesson one be mastered before going to two etc.?  Is there a standard answer even if mastering a lesson  takes months?

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« Reply #270 on: April 06, 2020, 10:30:28 am »
Once you've "learnt" the lesson and are sure you know what you have to do then it should become part of your practice routine and you can move to the next lesson. The early lessons are quite short so you'll soon know WHAT you need to do but will need to practice it to get it to the right level.

Just make sure you don't move too far ahead and really do spend time consolidating what you've learnt through practice. If you're honest with yourself you'll know when you should move on. Things don't need to be perfect though.   
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« Reply #271 on: April 11, 2020, 12:20:21 pm »

Very nice to do but I suspect that I will certainly stick to phase 1 for another 2 weeks.
I started at Christmas and don't really feel to have made that much progress! OK, so I know half a dozen chords sort of (the don't generally sound like Justin videos) but can't get them straight away without turning the guitar to check! This is going to be a long slog.

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« Reply #272 on: May 11, 2020, 07:10:04 pm »
Just my opinion and everyone is a bit different but I’m always a 2 step forward 1 step back kind of learner.

I do have a tiny bit of piano background and pretty decent saxophone experience so I came into this with a bit of musical background that at least made things a bit easier. Not a ton but I think it helped with a slight jumpstart.

Anyway, due to current environment, I needed something to keep my sanity so dusted off the old acoustic guitar that had been in my attic.   Never learned it before and just started searching online.   Came across JG.  I generally play 3-4 hours a day with maybe an hour or so each day as focused learning and drills and the other part just trying to apply skills to play songs I like.  I hate to think about just how much my fingertips were on fire a few weeks ago but the skin thickened quite a bit rather quickly actually.

Started April 22 and have definitely seen a ton of progress.  In the middle of Stage 4 with pretty close to mastering Stage 3.  I record myself every ten hours to listen back to the progress and when you practice hours each day,  the progress is certainly quick.

But anyway,  just my experience the last few weeks and with music in general, a few things that work best for me.

-2 hour practice/playing time.  Half of it learning/drilling.  Half of it applying by playing what you like.  For me, I don’t seem to absorb much after that point and I don’t retain much if I practice less than an hour.  Two hours seems to be that sweet spot for maximum improvement.
-Practicing before you go to bed.   My biggest gains are while I sleep.  I’ll work on a chord change at 11 PM and I can’t break 60 for the life of me.  Sleep on it, wake up in the morning and I’m magically breaking 70 per minute.
-I spend roughly 1/4 of the time advancing and 3/4 refining.  Plowing ahead helps make things I learned in the past much easier.





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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #273 on: May 11, 2020, 09:24:48 pm »

-2 hour practice/playing time.  Half of it learning/drilling.  Half of it applying by playing what you like.  For me, I don’t seem to absorb much after that point and I don’t retain much if I practice less than an hour.  Two hours seems to be that sweet spot for maximum improvement.
-Practicing before you go to bed.   My biggest gains are while I sleep.  I’ll work on a chord change at 11 PM and I can’t break 60 for the life of me.  Sleep on it, wake up in the morning and I’m magically breaking 70 per minute.
-I spend roughly 1/4 of the time advancing and 3/4 refining.  Plowing ahead helps make things I learned in the past much easier.
2 hours a day!! Really? I'm lucky to get 15-30mins a day.

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« Reply #274 on: May 12, 2020, 12:36:06 am »
I am at 1 - 2h a day as well, but going over 2h more often than sticking to 1h.
Usually pick up the guitar for at least an hour before going to bed.
But sacrificing quite a bit of sleep to be honest, especially finalizing the session with song play along in the app. Up go date with what is available in the new beginner course, moving forward in the app as well on the classic course.
Started about 4 weeks ago.
Also doing the ear training and music theory as well.
Focussing more on motor skills, chords, strumming so technical stuff, less on learning songs other than playing along. Really feel need to improve the tech part, so I can get a decent play along sound.
Do enjoy riffs, scales, etc. Do that from memory without any issue.

Going to pick up guitar pro again as well for play along stuff.

Doing free stuff in another app as well that listens and scores what you are playing. That game effect forces speed, clean playing and rhythm. So that helps as well.

Been playing every day so far, really enjoying it.
Looking at other guitars and gear as well.
Like setting goals if I can manage to get to X or play song Y completely I will allow myself to buy something more.

Next step is to really focus on a few songs I really like, and get that really done properly. Riffs, chords, strumming, getting that together and recording it.
As a parallel to the course.

 

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