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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #201 on: July 04, 2017, 09:08:39 am »
It's in BC stage 7 David.
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Thanks Darrell

Looking forward to that ...

But next step is record Before You Accuse Me to be well on the way to being OK with stage 5 and then I can start stage 7 ... I consider stage 6 done by posting a couple of songs using big F and using old faithful strumming pattern. 

Will cut myself some slack and continue on (and on and on and on) with 12 bar blues in G until I can play it ... that darn C7  :)  Not going to delay start of stage 7 because of that last piece of stage 4 & 5.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #202 on: July 04, 2017, 09:40:43 am »
A little tip on the C7, finger the C first and then just drop the pinkie down in the right place, slowly at first then speed it up until it's in muscle memory then try it in 1 go.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #203 on: July 04, 2017, 09:57:40 am »
A little tip on the C7, finger the C first and then just drop the pinkie down in the right place, slowly at first then speed it up until it's in muscle memory then try it in 1 go.
Thanks Darrell

I'm at the point of slow air changes to C7 with a tendency for pinkie to sometimes land up on the D string rather than G string.

But I am getting there !!

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #204 on: July 16, 2017, 04:14:17 pm »
so about the lessons in each stage, do you just do one each day until you make it to the practice schedule or do all of them all in one day?

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #205 on: July 16, 2017, 04:23:16 pm »
so about the lessons in each stage, do you just do one each day until you make it to the practice schedule or do all of them all in one day?
That depends on how quickly you pick them up. If you pick them up quickly then do all the lessons in the stage. If it takes a bit of time to pick them up then concentrate on the one lesson before moving onto the next lesson. With me the exception to that was when I learned F, because it takes a lot of practice to get right. Once I learned the fingering for F I moved on and kept coming back to it. I was on stage 8 by the time I'd been able to change to and from F with no problems.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #206 on: July 16, 2017, 05:16:36 pm »
so about the lessons in each stage, do you just do one each day until you make it to the practice schedule or do all of them all in one day?

The practice schedule is the daily practice schedule. Hence the seven check boxes.



Do all of the lessons in practice schedule daily (obvious), but you don't have to have everything perfect before moving on to the next stage.

However, you need to be honest with yourself, and do some consolidation of the parts you struggle with in each stage as you proceed with the course.
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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #207 on: July 16, 2017, 08:55:56 pm »
I'm 65 years old and I'm doing one stage of month. I'm putting in an hour or two a day. And I really miss a day. I'm sure any motivated 17 year old with a lot of time on their hands could do it at twice the speed. But I'm enjoying the journey having a great time and I think Justin's pedagogy pretty damn good!

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #208 on: January 31, 2018, 09:57:08 am »
Morning all,

How do you know when you are ready to move onto the next stage? I'm currently between 5 and 6 on the BC, mainly because I felt ready for 6 but realised I wasn't quite there with all the lessons so went back again. This can be a problem with me where I feel like I want to run before I can walk. 1 to 4 are ok for me now and I feel completely ready to just revisit as needed but I've been on 5 to 6 for a while now (and main sticking point is the 1 min changes) but I haven't had that clear "I'm ready to move forward" moment yet.

Luckily, I don't have any issues in wanting to give up but there are times that the irrational part of my brain wants to kick the amp over and walk out of the room, never to damage my guitar though, my PRS is a thing of beauty (particularly for a beginner) and I'd never knowingly damage it.

So I guess my question is, how did you know you were ready to move on? Stage 5 feels unlike stages 1-4 so, for me, I'm not as sure of when the right time is (for info, after realising I needed to go back I have stopped stage 6 learning, well aside from trying to nail F using full barre, which is relatively slow but I rarely get dead notes).

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #209 on: January 31, 2018, 10:30:49 am »
The short answer would be: when you can achieve the mini goals Justin has set up for each stage.

At the end of each stage you should find a set of consolidation requirements which are to be met before you move on.
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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #210 on: January 31, 2018, 10:52:39 am »
The short answer would be: when you can achieve the mini goals Justin has set up for each stage.

At the end of each stage you should find a set of consolidation requirements which are to be met before you move on.
Thanks and normally I would agree, but for some reason stage 5 is causing me to question if I am meeting them or not but I guess if I can't answer yes immediately, the answer must be no. Just second guessing and confusing myself!

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« Reply #211 on: January 31, 2018, 10:52:53 am »
I always do a ‘sneak peak’, and have a little bit of a try, if it’s too much wait a bit and try again when your comfortably doing your current stage, don’t rush yourself too much, you’ll just get frustrated and irritated, it’s all about patience and persistence.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #212 on: January 31, 2018, 12:24:22 pm »
I always do a ‘sneak peak’, and have a little bit of a try, if it’s too much wait a bit and try again when your comfortably doing your current stage, don’t rush yourself too much, you’ll just get frustrated and irritated, it’s all about patience and persistence.
I understand this approach! I have a degree of impatience that I am working so hard to surpress. Sometimes I'm successful, sometimes not. Persistence is no issue, thankfully. I don't mind the working across stages if it makes sense and works well together. Just wish I knew in my own head exactly where I was at:)

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« Reply #213 on: January 31, 2018, 01:48:25 pm »

Just wish I knew in my own head exactly where I was at:)
Yes I have a great deal of empathy with that, I think that recording and submitting something for critique is a great way to find out, you will get nothing but constructive comments and encouragement, I’ve found that it’s really helping me know how I’m doing!

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« Reply #214 on: January 31, 2018, 02:37:53 pm »
Yes I have a great deal of empathy with that, I think that recording and submitting something for critique is a great way to find out, you will get nothing but constructive comments and encouragement, I’ve found that it’s really helping me know how I’m doing!
I'm kind of building up toward that. I've recorded myself a few times but when I know I'm on camera I can feel it's recording so I almost always mess a little bit of it up:) That said, I agree I probably need to just submit something and get the feedback. No-one, except my wife, has seen me play and outside of being interested for me she doesn't care about the guitar, so I could do with some constructive friendly feedback:) Just gotta build up to it and decide what to submit!

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #215 on: February 28, 2018, 07:27:47 am »
I'm at stage nine and have not really focused on learning songs instead I have focused on skills and 'mastering' each lesson. I want to move on but wonder if I should focus on just songs for a few weeks/months. Also it's taken me a year to get to this point and I still struggle a little with the F chord and my while my pick strumming is fairly good my finder style is developing. What should I do next - focus on songs (I like rockabilly and surf guitar) or move on to intermediate... or a combination of both? And is my progress - a year to reach this stage common? Any help would be of great help. Also I should add Justin's teaching has been astonishingly good.

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« Reply #216 on: February 28, 2018, 09:35:07 am »
A year is OK to get to stage 9, it varies widely. I would definitely start on songs, if you have the beginner songbooks it will be easier. Even if technically you are good learning songs and playing along to them brings in many challenges. I wouldn't do songs exclusively though.
I only really mastered the F chord during the IM course.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #217 on: February 28, 2018, 04:13:58 pm »
Barry if you can't play songs you haven't finished the Beginner Course.
One of the criteria of finishing the BC is to play at least one song from each stage
from beginning to end with few mistakes.
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« Reply #218 on: February 28, 2018, 06:39:07 pm »
Learn songs, learn songs, learn songs.

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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #219 on: March 05, 2018, 04:12:57 pm »
...and the learn more songs...


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« Reply #220 on: March 05, 2018, 04:14:31 pm »
Learn songs, learn songs, learn songs.

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...and then learn more songs...


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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #221 on: March 05, 2018, 06:27:03 pm »
I'm a bit baffled you even made it through a whole year without playing songs all the time, Barry. That's what this is all about, isn't it? Yeah, go play along with some songs, dude. Playing along "with a band" is too much fun to miss out on.

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« Reply #222 on: June 07, 2018, 12:41:00 pm »
You have to Learn songs thats what it's all about.

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« Reply #223 on: June 07, 2018, 01:22:40 pm »
Mmmm...Barry has been AWOL from the board since his one and only post.
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Re: What to learn next? Should I move to the next stage? etc etc.
« Reply #224 on: June 11, 2018, 06:31:50 pm »
Hi!
I'm a complete beginner, working on stage 1 and I'm beginning to wonder when I should progress to stage 2.  I manage around 40 chord changes in a minute and I can play f.ex. Three little birds with 4 beats in a bar, decently.  Now, I am a perfectionist and a part of me is saying that I should not progress to stage 2 until I can manage 60 changes in a minute and flawlessly play all the songs available to stage 1 (app).  The other part of me is saying that I should go to stage 2 now, that the challenge of learning three new chords will help me develope faster than if I keep practicing these first three chords.  And so I go on and on in a circle....

When did you choose to go on to the next stage?
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