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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3255 on: September 06, 2017, 08:50:08 pm »
Started on More than words trying to get the syncopation taps right and also having a go at Don't speak by No doubt and finally Dust my broom by Elmore James (will be a l o n g time, need to learn slide)!!!
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« Reply #3256 on: September 07, 2017, 11:53:28 am »
Started on More than words trying to get the syncopation taps right and also having a go at Don't speak by No doubt and finally Dust my broom by Elmore James (will be a l o n g time, need to learn slide)!!!
That sounds challenging, Darrell ... look forward to hearing renditions in due course.

I am currently working on Before You Accuse Me.  I can play and sing through using simple triplet strumming.  But have no caught the variations bug and everytime I think I may have decided exactly what I want to do I stumble over another idea ... it has jumped up a notch without ever having recorded the basic version.  But such fun  ;D

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« Reply #3257 on: September 12, 2017, 08:17:41 am »
Beginning to incorporate a lot more power chords on strings 3 to 5 and single note riffs in my rhythm playing. Good fun and creates new kinds of dynamics I haven't been used to before.
We have a mix of old and new Country/rock songs on the repertoire and the songs from more contemporary artists seems to favour this type of playing compared to the older stuff where strumming especially acoustics were much more the norm for a rhythm player.
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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3258 on: September 14, 2017, 12:57:51 pm »
Currently trying to get Bon Jovi Wanted Dead or Alive down.

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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3259 on: September 14, 2017, 02:36:26 pm »
Finishing off learning She Casual by the Hunna and then finishing learning My Favourite Room by the Blossoms. Interestingly this has led me back into using my electric and also looking at how I can get a decent video setup which incorporates my interface for some better quality audio alongside it. Certainly kept me most focussed than I've been for along time.
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« Reply #3260 on: September 14, 2017, 03:05:49 pm »
Finishing off learning She Casual by the Hunna and then finishing learning My Favourite Room by the Blossoms. Interestingly this has led me back into using my electric and also looking at how I can get a decent video setup which incorporates my interface for some better quality audio alongside it. Certainly kept me most focussed than I've been for along time.

Please share your findings on the video. I'm hoping to find a solution myself on how to hook it up. I must admit, though, that I haven't spend time on trying yet.
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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3261 on: September 14, 2017, 04:41:24 pm »
So my progress so far on the video is to use Cyberlink Youcam 7 software. I use a Logitech C920 but the Logitech software only picks up a single channel of my focusrite 2i2. The Cyberlink software picks up both channels, it's light weight from an install perspective and just works. I'm not looking for anything fancy just something that will record video but with higher quality audio.

Output sounds significantly better and the video/audio is in sync.

The DISADVANTAGE of Youcam is that whilst you get both channels from 2i2 there are no options to do any mixing/blending. There may be other software out there to do that BUT I'm actually just going to try routing into a small mixer to see how that works first.

I've also briefly looked at free software OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) which looks really flexible (multiple cams, multiple inputs etc). but isn't as easy to use. Apparently you can also use some software on this to route your DAW output to OBS as an audio output. I really haven't had time to look at this but can't believe that this is going to run very effectively on my laptop, it's got to be pretty process heavy. I might look at this again when I've got to see how it would work with multiple cams. What I couldn't get it to do right after install was keep the video and audio insync.

I also bought a Focusrite iTrack Pocket mainly for on the go, you plug your phone into it as the video source and it's then got a semi decent mic to play into (or you can plug your guitar directly). Obviously inferior compared to using a decent mic but actually not bad. I'll post a couple of samples so people can see them.
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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3262 on: September 14, 2017, 07:52:21 pm »
Finishing off learning She Casual by the Hunna and then finishing learning My Favourite Room by the Blossoms. Interestingly this has led me back into using my electric and also looking at how I can get a decent video setup which incorporates my interface for some better quality audio alongside it. Certainly kept me most focussed than I've been for along time.

Hi,
Just a few thoughts on improving your audio. Ok so I would think your interface has at least 2 inputs? Plug the electric guitar DI into input 1.  The option here is to use a mic on the guitar amp. Either way lets just put that into input 1. If you go the direct in route then run the guitar into a Guitar track 1 where the "dry" guitar is recorded. Make a folder above that and in there you can put the VST amp simulator. We do this so we can alter the tone of the guitar when we apply the guitar sim later. I would  use a VST sim within Reaper. If you don't have a guitar sim then google:

"http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2012/02/21/bpb-freeware-studio-best-free-guitar-amp-simulator-vstau-plugins/"

You should find something.

Next plug your mic into input 2 and record that on a separate track (2) in Reaper. If you have no mic then take a feed off the camera sound out and route that into the interface input. Route that to track 2 input into Reaper.

So now we have the guitar on track one and the vocal on track two in Reaper. You can then work on the track 1 (guitar) by sifting tones in the sim and or adjust it to your liking. Once you settle on that you could play back track one and record the "wet" track to a new track.  Add affects as needed. Take track 2 and add any effects you desire, such as reverb and what not.

Put your mastering on the output master and adjust as needed. That should get you started. If you have questions and ore can enlighten us on what gear you do have then let us know.

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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3263 on: September 14, 2017, 08:05:14 pm »
By the way,
I recommend you use Reaper to do your mixing and mastering in. It comes chock full of plugs and is incredibly cheap. You can use it for 60 days for free. Those are some reasons to use Reaper but in addition it is incredibly powerful, configurable and best of all it has well over 100 plus videos that run no more than about 10 minutes each explaining just above every aspect of the program and DAW recording techniques as you could want to know. I use the video library ALL THE TIME as it is very handy and if I forget how to do something I can relearn it instantly. No other DAW that I know of has this extensive of a video help library available for it. Even if for instance you use something like Cubase or Pro Tools they don't have as much help and you will spend 10 times as much minimum!

So in the end we have an excellent DAW and a massive amount of videos that show you how to use it!

What more could you possibly want or need?

If you use a hardware mixer you will not have any effects other than what you equipment provides. You will not be ablet to mix and master very well. You will not be able to apply an Amp Sim. You will not have a built in metronome. Using that will allow the addition of drums as you can find free sims for that as well. I could go on but you should be getting the point that a DAW is WAY more FLEXIBLE and you sound will be MUCH BETTER!

When it comes to Rocking and Recording - Reaper is the Last word!
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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3264 on: September 14, 2017, 08:51:40 pm »
Cheers Lbro for the useful advice but Im a big Ableton user and have been using it for 3-4 years. Im comfortable with effects, mixing etc. using it. The challenge is getting a setup to record a mix using the same audio equipmemt alongside a video track in one shot, rather than recording the audio in a DAW, video separately then matching them up. I know people do it but its a bit of a faff. I also wanted something I can switch on plug in my zoom G5 for guitar fx, my Harmony for voice and get a nice mix out into my headphones or powered speakers.

I agree i dont need a mixer as a lot of the time I use the Daw however for the price I actually fancied one to play around as part of my growing kit and it'll help as part of this project. I'll post progress shortly!
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« Reply #3265 on: September 14, 2017, 09:05:14 pm »
Reaper will do video.... I have not used it that way as I do would simply get my sound right then import that and the video into Vegas. Mind you the audio is mixed and master in the DAW BEFORE it hits Vegas. I don't think the video capabilities in Reaper are as strong as Vegas so that is why I tend to consolodate the processed audio and raw video there. Then I line the 2 up. YOu may be able to using timing codes to sync both the Audio and Video so they sync up perfectly.

This 27 min video for Reaper on VIDEO should give you a good idea of how to and what is involved in doing video in Reaper. It should tell you about the timing code and more. Even if you use Ableton you will learn some things I would think on how to pull this all off!. The video is in the library. But to help you here is a direct link to it:
https://www.reaper.fm/videos.php#QHcjUEOfAA0

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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3266 on: September 14, 2017, 09:21:31 pm »
Cheers LBro ill take a look at that video
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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3267 on: September 28, 2017, 02:30:27 pm »
I just got back from my guitar lesson with my teacher and I am learning Lynard Skynards Simple man.  It's not that hard but takes a lot of concentration.  It's always fun to learn something thats also a challenge.

So tell me, WHAT ARE YOU LEARNING NOW? I'm always interested in what everybody is learning.  We can always trade little tips and tricks.

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Im trying to learn Gimmie Shelter doing ok with the guitar but the singing to it is driving me nuts im hoping Justin will do a version (is there a request a song to Justin on here?)

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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3268 on: October 02, 2017, 10:10:12 am »
Im trying to learn Gimmie Shelter doing ok with the guitar but the singing to it is driving me nuts im hoping Justin will do a version (is there a request a song to Justin on here?)

The song request area is closed. Justin gets flooded with suggestions.
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Re: So, what are you learning now? (on your instrument/s)
« Reply #3269 on: October 02, 2017, 04:47:13 pm »
The song request area is closed. Justin gets flooded with suggestions.

It's not closed just moved to the home page of the website. Some mobile devices can't access it.
On the home page it's abouthalf way down the page bigwhite box with blue lettering.

 

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