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Title: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on January 03, 2010, 03:09:22 am
I'd played on and off mostly on acoustic for 27 or so years and apart from 1/4 tone curls and a bit of vibrato I never did any bends.

This year I decided I wanted to expand my electric playing skills and found bends a bit of hurdle for a couple of weeks. On .10s I found it physically difficult to push the string the distance required for even a full-tone bend. Other things I had to get the hang of was palm muting whilst bending and also not having the other strings ring out during the bend or getting the string above the one I was bending caught on my finger tip on the release and doing an inadvertant flick-off.

All these things took me a couple of weeks to get the hang of. I remember thinking after the first session of trying "this is impossible" - like so many other things on the guitar - but like with all those other things a bit of work and I've got it now.

Maybe I'm just slow.

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Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 03, 2010, 09:32:23 pm
@mbarret12: dude, so the first time you grabbed a guitar, you could bend pitch perfect, both 1/4 step up through 2 notes up, pre-bend, bend-release, add vibrato's to all those,  wide, slow, tight and fast, and do that over most of the neck, and also know where and when to bend good and sound good in all scale positions?  :P well, if you could, good for you, now you know what other people have to practise, if not...well, go practice!  :)
Sorry, I don't really know the names of the bends, but basically I listen to a song, have the tab and it says 10b I can make it sound like whatever it sounds like in the song.  I find scales pretty boring, I know a couple but I don't really see the point of them, they seem to make music less free and more constricted.  But knowing where to bend is found out pretty quick tbh. 

Maybe it's because I grew up playing guitar since I was 8, I never really put alot of effort into it until I was about 13 or 14 but I probably had all the basics down.  Bootstrap I understand what you mean now with the bending, took me a while when I first started to just do the bend and not do anything else.  Thanks for clearing that up.  When do you need to palm mute while bending?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on January 03, 2010, 10:07:36 pm
At the top of the bend before you move onto the next note - there are times you might want to get the reverse sound back to the original note (or partially back) but mostly it sounds awful if you don't mute.

And I LOVE scales.

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Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on January 04, 2010, 12:13:27 am
@mbarret12: well...what is the point of scales you say? they make music less free and constricted? Id say, rather the opposite. Knowing scales (at least some basic ones, and knowing them good)  opens the whole fretboard for jamming and making your own music!  :D Less free? who says that if you know a scale, its illigal to go outside it? Ofc we all want to break the rules, but you must know them first. Learning the miner pentatonic and later minor scale all over the fretboard is one of the things im the most glad i put a big effort into when it comes to guitar.  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 04, 2010, 12:24:11 am
@mbarret12: well...what is the point of scales you say? they make music less free and constricted? Id say, rather the opposite. Knowing scales (at least some basic ones, and knowing them good)  opens the whole fretboard for jamming and making your own music!  :D Less free? who says that if you know a scale, its illigal to go outside it? Ofc we all want to break the rules, but you must know them first. Learning the miner pentatonic and later minor scale all over the fretboard is one of the things im the most glad i put a big effort into when it comes to guitar.  ;)
You don't have to know them first, you being a slash fan of all people should know that, his first guitar was a 1-stringed thing he found in his grandma's closet.  He came up with the opening riff to paradise city by playing around.  He didn't know any scales and he came up with some of my favourite music.  If you know scales you'll feel like you have to stay inside them, if you don't, you can go anywhere without thinking "Oh no, am I in the right position for this key?"  If it sounds good, great, if not, oh well.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on January 04, 2010, 12:47:25 am
@mbarrett12

Good for you for having a view but keep your mind open mate.

The theory of evolution tells us "that which survives, survives" - scales - the foundation stones of western music have survived for a mighty long time - and like the crocodile they may seem a little simple to you, but they are uniquely suited to their purpose and also a bit like the crocodile you can ignore them but if you do they might end up biting you on the xx--xx.

Knowing and playing scales isn't just about soloing, it is the foundation knowledge you need to understand chord grips, key changes and a whole bunch of good stuff that can help you be a great player.

Sure there are greats out there who don't know a scale from.... well.... a crocodile - would they have been better had they learned their scales? We will never know so the point is moot.

Frankly anyone who points to a so-called great and says "they didn't so I don't need to" - is either, lazy, arrogant, a fool, or in a very few cases - gifted.

Hope you're one of the latter - me - I'm just a mere mortal trying to make music.

B
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 04, 2010, 01:10:26 am
I've tried several times to get into learning scales, but I don't know anything more than the maj scale position 1 (E) and 3 (C), maj pent pos 1 (E), min pent pos 1 (E) and 4 (A).
Do I know them well? No.
I just can't make myself stick to it.
Help?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on January 04, 2010, 01:12:07 am
gah, as a slash fan im so tired of people saying that slash doint play scales. ofc he does. ofc he has practiced them. but he is not a slave to them. thats what he means, when he says "im not sitting and going like this" *plays a major scale up and down fast* in this one japanese interview he says this and then shreds up a perfetct normal major scale. so he must have learned it sometime!

 I mean, a guy that never looks up lessons or talk to people, but find a bunch of notes that sound good together in a certain setting (a key and style), memorizes those notes, or patterns of those notes, and later uses them as this, IS USING A SCALE. Even if he dont know the name of it, or hasnt looked it up in a theory book. If you improsvise over something, you are playing a scale that you have memorized. saying you know no scales is the same as saying youll never ever sound good improvising.

and ofc, even if you dont know any scales, if you make a cool lick and gonna add it to a song, and know no scales, how will you make the key of the lick fit the song? impossible, or atleast very hard.

Its also down to how you practice scales.dont just sit there with the scale, make a backingtrack going and learn the scale by playing around!  :) ofc, do as you want. but i dont like it when people tell others not to learn scales, because its so much fun to know.

those gifted people bootstrap speaks of, are merely people who learnt scales very fast imo. thats where their gift is i think.  ::)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 04, 2010, 01:32:24 am
gah, as a slash fan im so tired of people saying that slash doint play scales. ofc he does. ofc he has practiced them. but he is not a slave to them. thats what he means, when he says "im not sitting and going like this" *plays a major scale up and down fast* in this one japanese interview he says this and then shreds up a perfetct normal major scale. so he must have learned it sometime!

 I mean, a guy that never looks up lessons or talk to people, but find a bunch of notes that sound good together in a certain setting (a key and style), memorizes those notes, or patterns of those notes, and later uses them as this, IS USING A SCALE. Even if he dont know the name of it, or hasnt looked it up in a theory book. If you improsvise over something, you are playing a scale that you have memorized. saying you know no scales is the same as saying youll never ever sound good improvising.

and ofc, even if you dont know any scales, if you make a cool lick and gonna add it to a song, and know no scales, how will you make the key of the lick fit the song? impossible, or atleast very hard.

Its also down to how you practice scales.dont just sit there with the scale, make a backingtrack going and learn the scale by playing around!  :) ofc, do as you want. but i dont like it when people tell others not to learn scales, because its so much fun to know.

those gifted people bootstrap speaks of, are merely people who learnt scales very fast imo. thats where their gift is i think.  ::)
Never said he doesn't use them, I said he didn't know them.  I know a scale already, major pentatonic I think, but I just find playing scales boring, it's much more fun to mess around and find something that sounds good than use a scale because everyone using a scale can find the same things, it's only when you think outside of them that you can find unique ideas.

@ Bootstrap, I'm not saying I don't need to learn scales, I'm saying I don't want to.  And I'm not saying that because Slash didn't I don't.  I also really like Matt Bellamy - Plug In Baby is practically a scale in itself, it even sounds like one, although a much cooler one.  I don't shun scales saying they're useless, (I don't think I did earlier, if I did I take it back) but I just find them monotonous and I don't think they're absolutely necessary to make good music.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on January 04, 2010, 01:59:24 am
hehe, yeah, i understand that you want to be original, but I bet that if you just mess around and find something thats cool, i can almost promise you that that lick is made up by notes from a certain scale....so everyone will still be making licks from the same notes anyway. Maybe we will understand each other more with time!  :P gonna sleep now, but looking forward to watch your new vid tomorrow!  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 04, 2010, 02:05:06 am
hehe, yeah, i understand that you want to be original, but I bet that if you just mess around and find something thats cool, i can almost promise you that that lick is made up by notes from a certain scale....so everyone will still be making licks from the same notes anyway. Maybe we will understand each other more with time!  :P gonna sleep now, but looking forward to watch your new vid tomorrow!  ;)
Cheers, you can be completely critical on my bending :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 04, 2010, 02:12:32 pm
I learned this:
Quote from: http://www.guitartips.addr.com/tip145.html
Bronze - Bronze strings, which really aren't bronze but brass alloy over a steel string, give you a medium tone.

Phosphor Bronze - I remember in my incoming inspection quality control days working in factories, specifying phosphor bronze as the material of choice when receiving connector pins because they were denser, harder, and lasted longer than the other pins used.  The same holds true in the guitar string world but you have to know some precautions.  The phosphor bronze strings will probably sound brighter or louder even though they're the same gauge as you used before not only because they are a different material but also because they pull harder on the bridge / sound board due to their greater mass over regular bronze strings.  If you replace say a medium set of bronze strings with a medium set of phosphor bronze strings (same diameters) be aware that they will pull harder on your guitar.  Keep an eye on the face of your guitar after installing them to make sure your guitar can handle them or else when you decide to change over to phosphor bronze, get a gauge a little lighter.  The phosphor bronze strings do last longer than the two previously mentioned types of strings.
I now have Phosphor Bronze's on my Taylor, and I've bought two sets of 80/20 Bronze... uh-oh.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on January 04, 2010, 11:55:00 pm
I put Phosphor Bronze Elixirs on my Maton Custom on Christmas Eve - they sound great but what I like most is the way they feel - I've been using Elixirs for ages but these feel somehow softer/silkier?

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Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 05, 2010, 12:03:17 am
You might be using Polyweb coated ones?
I broke my baby's G-string (ha ha) while tuning it up from E back to G (wanted to tune from DAEEAA to DGDGGD). It's fricken 1:02 in the morning here and I don't want to come home from school and have to restring her (ha ha).
Gonna do it now. I hope she's alright though.

Edit:
She's alright, she now sounds better than ever. (L)

What did I learn?
Putting strings from one guitar onto another is a real pain!
I put the old strings from my Taylor onto my dad's old parlour guitar. While changing, the high E also snapped while trying to get it off the tuning peg. Fortunately there was enough left to put it on the little parlour guitar.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 05, 2010, 01:29:06 pm
@mbarret12: well...what is the point of scales you say? they make music less free and constricted? Id say, rather the opposite. Knowing scales (at least some basic ones, and knowing them good)  opens the whole fretboard for jamming and making your own music!  :D Less free? who says that if you know a scale, its illigal to go outside it? Ofc we all want to break the rules, but you must know them first. Learning the miner pentatonic and later minor scale all over the fretboard is one of the things im the most glad i put a big effort into when it comes to guitar.  ;)
  To be frank, I just love fooling around with scales. Everyday I come up with something different, something bluesy, something cool, something like neo classical(lol :D).
Quote from: Mark Knopfler
Just using those different scale and chord positions; I learned to fall asleep with a guitar over me.
I stand by that. And I always will. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 06, 2010, 02:02:54 am
Went to my lesson tonight and sounded like crap AGAIN.  Why is it I sound half decent when playing by myself in my own room and then go to sounding like garbage in front of my teacher?  I'm so frustrated.  He's very caring and really supportive and not just because I'm paying for the privledge of his teachings.  He said that I may be too over enthusiastic.  I want to know everything there is to know and play like professional this instant.  I'm getting myself all worked up because I'm trying to cram so much theory into my head when the journey takes years or a whole lifetime to learn.  Why do we always want instant gratification?  I come here as you know daily and look at theory stuff constantly.  Stuff I don't know but think I need to know right now.  Some of this stuff is light years beyond my abilities at the moment but I'm so adamant about learning that's it's causing me overloaded brain syndrome!  Maybe I should just take a vacation from here and concentrate on what my teacher gives me.
Don't know what to do.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 06, 2010, 02:47:09 am
LnK, I think I'm sort of the opposite, I don't like theory, I find it boring and it isn't necessary, also I think somewhere I saw people saying they practiced for 9 hours...jaysus that's too much, I practice, don't know how long, just whenever my guitar's beside me.  I had to play in front of an examiner for a music test before, I imagine you're getting embarassed or something in front of your teacher, only thing I think will help you with that, is taking a deep breath, pausing for a second and then say "can I start again?".  Of course, I didn't do that in the test, as it's a test but I would do it in my guitar lesson if I screw up a riff or whatever.  Also, don't strive for perfection, work around small goals.  They all add up.  For the fast ending part in sultans of swing I was gonna just play the starting note once, cos I didn't think it sounded too different, then I just decided I wanted to do it, took me a day or two to get it to speed but like that, just go for small things.

Hope any of that big bunch of words up there helped.

What exactly are you messing up on?  Is it something simple or tough?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on January 06, 2010, 03:13:08 am
Keep aiming high Lnk - enthusiasm and persistence WILL get you everywhere. And only ever look back to see how far you've come :)

And eat this elephant one mouthful at a time.

B
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 06, 2010, 03:24:44 am
I'm messing up on everything.  Scales, skipping notes like suggested in one of Justins lessons, just doing songs like Hey Joe with barre chords.  After like a month now I finally get them and had so much difficulty getting them,  for example all the notes of the A major barred chord as well as the G to ring clear.  I sounded like a fool trying to play tonight at my lesson.  I think I feel like I have to perform in front of him or something.  Playing Black Sabbath's Paranoid with the solo. Yes, I redid the song cause I made a mistake and on the second attempt not only made the first mistake but added a lot more to the list.    Not a real brain teaser for me and I sound pretty good at home but I was just scattered just like my last lesson.  My teacher said to concentrate on just a few things and not to spread myself so thin.  I too actually think I'm so embarrassed when I make a mistake and I know how excellently he plays.  I know he's not there to judge me but to help but I just can't get over this stupid "everything has to be perfect" attitude.  If anything this is the one thing that will cause a lot of frustration like it hasn't already.   I really need to get over this as the benefits from the lessons I go to provide me with so vital information, skills and techniques and besides  I love to jam with my teacher.  That' so much fun.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on January 06, 2010, 12:15:42 pm
@LnK: I LOVE your attitude! you never stop that, and always keep on like that! like bootstrap said, its gonna get you somewhere! But just be sure to focus on one, or just a few things at the time.  :P I also sometimes are trying to learn everything in a day, and it ends up with just not learning anything properly!  ::)

about bad performance with teacher: my thoughts on this is that all people no matter what they are doing, have their "best" and "worst" level of performance. Footballplayers, pokerplayers, gymnasts, guitarists, runners...you name it. The thing is, younger people or people that have not played very long, (but not just started) have a big difference between their best and worst. Proffesional people, like justin i can imagine, has a very high "worst" level, and most good professional have a worst level that is not very far from their best. So the "worst" level is a bar for how bad you possibly can play, and i think its important to raise this level, so if you find yourself there when with your teacher, thats great, since then he can help you raise that level. am i even making any sense here?  :D anyway, i have kinda felt my worst level raise the whole time. to practice it..well...play for strangers, play for a video cam, play for family members if that make you sweat   :P just my thoughts on this anyway ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lemming on January 06, 2010, 01:42:10 pm
Licks ..... you need to keep that enthusiasm but wind in the "trying to do too much at one time" part of it. Concentrate on smaller parts rather than the whole picture (I like the "eating the elephant" analogy, it fits really well !?!) ...... are you taking your guitar & your amp to your teacher or are you using his gear, that can make a difference to your feel & sound, but sometimes it really is just the fact that you're playing in front of someone else, I had a riff that I can play with my eyes shut, but I went to a friend (who's a brilliant player) & tried to play it for him & came across like i'd never even picked up a guitar before !?!? Now THAT was embarrassing !?!?  :D
You'll get there, there's more than one person on this board that believes in you  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 06, 2010, 11:50:47 pm
Thanks Lemming and thanks everyone else for your support. I will just concentrate on a little bit at a time and will get excellent in my own time.  I shouldn't compare myself to anyone here as I am always looking at people's vids or audio here and hear how they sound.   

So I was just surfing around on Youtube and came across Joe Satriani
playing with Funtwo.  Funtwo did his interpretation of Canon rock and made a quite a few mistakes in front of the world to see(starts at 1:53) but did he let that stop him.  Hell no!!  I guess I just have to get over these feelings of inadequacy and try my best.  Mistakes are a good thing not to be frowned upon  but they can also be pretty painful when you record yourself and play it back.  They can up your learning curve in a whole new way though

Licksnkicks. 






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBHfb2sVWV4
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 07, 2010, 12:06:07 am
There's a pretty funny video of Slash making an absolute mess of the Welcome to The Jungle intro somewhere on YouTube, could be at the Ritz
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on January 07, 2010, 12:14:14 am
There's a pretty funny video of Slash making an absolute mess of the Welcome to The Jungle intro somewhere on YouTube, could be at the Ritz

its actually not slash making the biggest mistake, as most people seem to believe. the one doing the mistake is Matt Sorum (drummer), which comes in to late, then slash turns around, and counts him in by bobbing his head while still playing that really hard intro riff. ofc, slash is drunk, and missing a couple of notes  :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdqtxp0xNhc

but slash makes a mistake at the sweet child of mine intro here which is kinda funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzKRcA8hCns

but I think slash is very good live, he does normally play very solid.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 07, 2010, 01:04:16 am
Sorry I was thinkin SCO'M, but said WTTJ.  I said Ritz I think, that's the part I was right about  :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 07, 2010, 02:01:09 am
Messing with EADGAD tuning now. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 07, 2010, 02:54:51 am
There's a pretty funny video of Slash making an absolute mess of the Welcome to The Jungle intro somewhere on YouTube, could be at the Ritz

I watched the suggested vids and he did make a huge mistake on
Sweet Child of Mine.  He was pretty intoxicated to on Welcome to the Jungle.  I can't even imagine playing with a few drinks in me. 

But nevertheless..............I do really like Slash and he is extremely talented.  I'm sure there have been concerts that I have been to where a lot of mistakes have been made but was not fully aware of them.  I'm going to see Motley Crue Feb 4th and I know for sure I will be really aware and listening. 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 07, 2010, 05:18:30 am
Licks ..... you need to keep that enthusiasm but wind in the "trying to do too much at one time" part of it. Concentrate on smaller parts rather than the whole picture (I like the "eating the elephant" analogy, it fits really well !?!)

Well I just had a long practice session and started off with a warm up and then I wanted to practice and polish my Back in Black song.  I was playing the whole song through and was getting so ticked off at myself for not sounding crisp instead sounding very sloppy(after playing the song about 7 times through) so I took everyone's advice and broke it down into doable chunks and you know what?  I noticed an improvement almost immediately.  I think with concentrating on just a bit I was able to focus on technique and timing a lot better and slowed my speed down a bit. I really noticed something about my finger placement and that it was not as accurate as I though to be.  I really concentrated on placing fingers accurately everytime I hit the different notes on the fretboard.  I really didn't like doing this as I was not living up to my expectations of myself but it did pay off and now I will use this method when I get frustrated trying to be perfect. 

Thanks you guys are great.
Licksnkicks 

P.S.  The elephants big but there's so many ways to take it down. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 07, 2010, 06:13:12 pm
There's a pretty funny video of Slash making an absolute mess of the Welcome to The Jungle intro somewhere on YouTube, could be at the Ritz

its actually not slash making the biggest mistake, as most people seem to believe. the one doing the mistake is Matt Sorum (drummer), which comes in to late, then slash turns around, and counts him in by bobbing his head while still playing that really hard intro riff. ofc, slash is drunk, and missing a couple of notes  :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdqtxp0xNhc

but slash makes a mistake at the sweet child of mine intro here which is kinda funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzKRcA8hCns

but I think slash is very good live, he does normally play very solid.
He is drunk, so that's a MAJOR factor to these mistakes. I do agree about him being good playing live. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 07, 2010, 09:03:40 pm
The whole band looks drunk.  I did manage to see Gun' n Roses in concert in my city and they sure weren't drunk that time!  They put on an incredible show.  Front and centre seats about 8 rows back.  My ears rung for 2 days after that but just seeing the energy of the band and the talents of Slash was well worth it.

Licksnkicks

Slash is excellent live or recorded.  I can't stand Axl.  He's so full of himself, arrogant and just such a jerk.  Why do egos get in the way.  There are so many more talented singers then him and they are a whole lot more humble then him.  I guess he thinks he's god or something like that!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on January 07, 2010, 10:02:04 pm
The whole band looks drunk.  I did manage to see Gun' n Roses in concert in my city and they sure weren't drunk that time!  They put on an incredible show.  Front and centre seats about 8 rows back.  My ears rung for 2 days after that but just seeing the energy of the band and the talents of Slash was well worth it.

Licksnkicks

aaaahhhh, i envy you soooo much!!! I saw slash at quart festival from the front row....so ive seen him, but to see him with old guns n roses.....wow..... you are lucky!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 09, 2010, 04:52:57 pm
  I can't stand Axl.  He's so full of himself, arrogant and just such a jerk.  Why do egos get in the way.  There are so many more talented singers then him and they are a whole lot more humble then him.  I guess he thinks he's god or something like that!
  Who can. That guy is a real arrogant person. He thinks he's the best singer of all time. I mean even Fergie sings Sweet Child O'mine better than him! :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 09, 2010, 08:28:31 pm
@mbarrett ... Woah!

I've just caught up with the last few pages of this thread ... and there's me suggesting that in sultans of swing your bends are an area for improvement and something you should practice !!   :)

I do, however, stand by what I said there. I think a major weakness in your performance is that you play too many bends where you only just reach the note from the bend but only enough to be just 'suggesting' what the note is - not staying there long enough and not getting to it with confidence and certainty ... and sometimes you don't quite make it to the note ... plus, because you come off the bend so quickly you give yourself no chance to put vibrato on it. And the bending downwards  ... mmmh!

I know I'm coming across as a harsh critic ...and you may think I'm being a bit too harsh ... but I can only see problems down the line due to you not developing strong, consistent, good habits. I hope you're cool with this and take it in the spirit intended.  8)

Additionally, I disagree with you on scales too. I've played guitar for nearly 30 years. It was not until about a year ago - when I started to study the blues lessons on Justin's site ... when I first learned and practised the minor pentatonic scale .. that I was free and not restricted in my playing - enough to be able to put on a backing track and play something over it, to improvise - yes, being creative - that sounded kind of okay.
I tried this when I was much younger and knew no scales and had no idea ... it didn't sound good, it didn't sound good at all. I just turned up the distortion and volume and made a truly awful racket.

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 09, 2010, 08:59:20 pm
One day I'm gonna learn this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcanWkRbnwQ
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lucianot on January 10, 2010, 11:52:03 am
I'm learning "The rakes of Kildare", it's difficult because of the rythm at 6/8 which I confuse with 4/4....anyways I am getting there.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 10, 2010, 10:42:22 pm
Mr. Close2u I did not know that you had 30 years of experience playing guitar.  Wow I wish I had a 1/3 of those years behind me.  Only 9 and a bit more to go.  :)

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 11, 2010, 11:34:33 am
  Just this close to learning the whole Hotel California Solo. I got everything down except the ending harmony parts(not the reall end, the one that leads into that part). :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 11, 2010, 11:49:29 am
  Just this close to learning the whole Hotel California Solo.
Love that solo, can only play it on guitar hero tho  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 11, 2010, 11:55:43 am
Mr. Close2u I did not know that you had 30 years of experience playing guitar.  Wow I wish I had a 1/3 of those years behind me.  Only 9 and a bit more to go.  :)

Licksnkicks

I have to qualify that 30 year measure

I first started guitar with a few simple chords learned from a friend when I was mid-teens.
I did play and make some progress with chords and songs and stuff over the next few years but it was totally unstructured and without tuition.
When I did pay for some lessons ... well, it's a long story that I've described elsewhere in the forum. Suffice to say I was put off big style by what the teacher gave me (theory, theory, scales and theory).
From then on my electric guitar pretty much liveed in it's case. I played acoustic almost exclusively until mid-twenties (I learned mainly songs from books of varying quality).
From then until about a year ago, I played very sporadically ... and sometimes went years without playing. However, because I had learned chords and songs I was always able to pick up the guitar and play something when the fancy took me.

So, a period of about 30 years has elapsed ... but ... what I can do at present is no more than someone learning properly could probaby achieve in a few years.
I am still a beginner ... so take heart!

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on January 11, 2010, 01:05:06 pm
@Close2U our stories are almost identical - except I never had any lessons and I also never let a year go by without playing but it was like you very sparodic - like maybe 3 or 4 times a year for a couple of weeks. Also it is only 27 going on 28 years for me :) I think you are well ahead of me though in terms of getting stuck back in - I only started back solidly since Feb '09 and you are certainly doing a better job at transcribing RUBS!

Same with the electric in the case thing - I recently took my 81' Blazer Series Ibanez to a guitar tech to have the selector switch replaced and he couldn't believe just how pristine it is.

As I keep telling Mrs Bootstrap - as a midlife crisis it beats running off with the secretary or buying an expensive red sportscar ;D

Cheers, Bootstrap

PS Hehe - I've gotten over calling them my wife's grandkids and just accept the fact that I am a devilishly good looking young Pop!  ::)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on January 11, 2010, 04:55:31 pm
its interesting what you are saying close2u, because even if you consider yourself a beginner, I feel some kind of steadyness in your playing. When your fingers grips the guitar you can see/hear that they have done it before, quite much, even if they struggle to to play the wildest solo's and stuff. So I think all those years, even if you didnt practice perfect/everyday its alot better than nothing!  :)

I hope to achieve that kind of steadyness myself, I guess no matter how much you practice a day, you need to have played some time for it to settle in. ..if anyone understands what im saying..  :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 11, 2010, 05:09:16 pm
Arranging again, trying to challenge myself with a mad tuning this time.
Trying to arrange Taylor Swift's Love Story in CGDGBD with the capo on the strings C, G, D and G.
Which results in DAEABD.
I still suck at it but I've tried enough to conclude it's possible.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 11, 2010, 05:41:53 pm
  DONE! Learnt it. Phew, but still having trouble with the note that you catch on the b string after you bend the high e a tone. Thanks Deadly Chicken for the ending harmony parts before the end. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 11, 2010, 09:35:34 pm
@Close2U our stories are almost identical - except I never had any lessons

I think I had about 5-8 lessons in total .... I have the notes he wrote and homework I completed to this day ... I tell you truly ... in those few hours I was trying to learn to play the G major scale in position 1 and working on a few songs that he transcribed with me and his additional input and tasks for me comprised :
1] the theory and analysis of the major scale and all of its modes (Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian. Lydian, Myxolydian, Aeolian or natural monor, Locrian)
2] theoretically working out and drawing on a neck diagram all the notes in the major, major pent and minor pent for given keys
3] theoretically working out which scales could be used over given chord progressions ... and not easy I, IV V ones either ... but complex jazz-ified ones like Blue Bossa ... Cm7 / Fm7 / Dm7b5 / G7 / Cm7 / Ebm7 / Ab7 / Dbmaj7 / G7 / Cm7 / Dm7b5 / G7
4] analysis of complex chords ... what notes they comprise and what keys they could belong in (examples ... Bb6/9 ... notes 1,3,5,6,9 keys Bb, Eb, F and Cm7/11 ... notes 1,b3,5,b7,11 keys D,E,A
5] analysis of tonal centres, chromatic joining notes and lower appogiaturas and other such stuff

And this was when I was still at the stage of being able to play some open chords, some barre chords and a few rock songs and riffs.

It was desperate ... he was a mega technique geek in to Steely Dan and improvisational jazz ... and I wanted to rock out like Angus Young and Tony Iommi .... we did not get along


 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: amok1 on January 11, 2010, 10:55:50 pm
Haha that's nutty. I had that same problem. I took around 10 guitar lesson from a EVH freak teaching way over my head, so went it alone for awhile. Then I'd go through stages of playing/not playing. I join the military and get sent overseas for three years. I didn't touch a guitar the whole time, and I was on my way to being a really good guitar player too.  That's was about 5 years ago.  Since I can't put it down.

That's makes laugh cause I just finish transcribing Van Halen's "Everybody Wants Some" for a buddy of mine. Hahaha. Any EVH fans feel free to email me for them.

I'm getting ready to start working on What You Give by Tesla. It has some really taste riffs. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 12, 2010, 12:54:10 am
I remember my 1st lesson... it was about 2 months ago, I had been playing for 2 months non-stop. I had been on this site for a few weeks and couldnt wait for my 1st private lesson. I think watching Justins lessons raised my expectations too high because i was utterly dissapointed.
 I sat down infront of my teacher and he told me to play what I know, I remember playing the rift from 'times like these' and he went on to teach me the entire song and I was sitting there thinking 'I don't even want to learn this song, what a waste of time', I would keep asking him to comment on my technique etc but he had nothing usefull to say, and just regurgitated the tab.
I want private lessons with Justin!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 12, 2010, 06:58:50 am
continued ... sorry  ;) ... I had to leave off yesterday ...

As I keep telling Mrs Bootstrap - as a midlife crisis it beats running off with the secretary or buying an expensive red sportscar ;D

PS Hehe - I've gotten over calling them my wife's grandkids and just accept the fact that I am a devilishly good looking young Pop!  ::)
:D again

its interesting what you are saying close2u, because even if you consider yourself a beginner, I feel some kind of steadyness in your playing. When your fingers grips the guitar you can see/hear that they have done it before, quite much, even if they struggle to to play the wildest solo's and stuff. So I think all those years, even if you didnt practice perfect/everyday its alot better than nothing!  :)

I hope to achieve that kind of steadyness myself, I guess no matter how much you practice a day, you need to have played some time for it to settle in. ..if anyone understands what im saying..  :P

There's a compliment in there marcus and I'm grateful ... I guess the steadyness you describe is a long established ability to wrap my hands around the guitar and play something with a decent rhythm, tempo, use of strumming dynamics etc ... when I was younger and really playing a lot I could / would play for several hours a day ... rhythm, songs, chords, strumming etc so I guess I did gain the ability to play with steadyness that I have never lost ...
I never really moved beyond the basics of chordal/easy-ish fingerpicked accompaniment in rhythm guitar terms though...
and as already said I did not learn one 'useful' thing that helped me to even begin to play a guitar solo or lead line ... the only thing close to that I could ever do was play the main riff from Wonderful Tonight ...
so that's why I consider myself a beginner still ... albeit one with a lot of experience and some grounding in the fundamental skills of playing songs and rhythm

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 12, 2010, 07:01:52 am
Anyway .... back on topic ...
I'm learning some transcription thanks to RUBS solo 1 and another study piece from a guitar mag.
I'm paying a long overdue visit to my collection of backing tracks to get back to practicing my improvisational skills.
I'm hopefully going to have some cash flow soon to buy equipment that will let me record some more tracks too.
 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 12, 2010, 11:58:48 am
so that's why I consider myself a beginner still
I just had another look at some of your vids, very un-beginner-like
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 12, 2010, 03:34:30 pm
@ bigoli ... very kind of you

 :)

I remember a discussion a while back about what is beginner, intermediate etc in terms of ability .. maybe I'll be able to find it some time ...

I suppose I am extending a little beyond the skills taught in Justin's beginner course ... I'll have to keep working and learning and see what comes in the intermediate course ...

Anyway ... I suppose the most imortant measure is how confident you feel about your playing and how much you're enjoying it ... and over the last year both of those have risen immensely ... need I say ... down to lessons from Justin and the support of you good forum folk !!

 ;D

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 12, 2010, 04:43:19 pm
so that's why I consider myself a beginner still
I just had another look at some of your vids, very un-beginner-like

I so agree.  I have sat and watched quite a few of your vids and I think that you are an amazing player and you play from your heart and soul.  I can hear and feel it.  You are very humble!!!

P.S.  I have pmed you a few of my playing difficulties and you have always been so gracious to help me out.  I regard you as my virtual mentor!  Maybe one day I will play 1/2 as good as you.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 12, 2010, 04:46:44 pm

That's makes laugh cause I just finish transcribing Van Halen's "Everybody Wants Some" for a buddy of mine. Hahaha. Any EVH fans feel free to email me for them.


I admit it!  I'm an EVH fan and I would love if you email them.  My email addy is in my profile.  Please and thank you so kindly.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 12, 2010, 05:05:48 pm
  Just fooling around with my capo, making up melodies in major scales, and through that I've written 3 instrumentals today! Now I gotta find a way so I can think of lyrics. I just suck at song writing. ::)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 12, 2010, 08:01:07 pm
continued ... sorry  ;) ... I had to leave off yesterday ...

As I keep telling Mrs Bootstrap - as a midlife crisis it beats running off with the secretary or buying an expensive red sportscar ;D

PS Hehe - I've gotten over calling them my wife's grandkids and just accept the fact that I am a devilishly good looking young Pop!  ::)
:D again

LMAO!!
Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 13, 2010, 01:51:53 am
I learned how to change my own strings.  Yeah me! I had a nightmare that I broke the strings on my guitar and woke up in a fright only to find my guitar safely nestled in the corner.  It's not the big deal I made it to be in my head.  Not complicated at all.  I have brand new, nicely tight strings and NO twangs happening.  They feel so incredibly luscious.  I absolutely love the feel of new strings.  It's better than chocolate and coming from a female well hell, that's really saying something.:)

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 13, 2010, 01:58:21 am
Good job lnk!
Changing strings can be fun, actually. I tend to play some (guess which) music loud and take my time, it always works.
I'm rather afraid of breaking strings while retuning like two to five times a day. These strings cost like €12,50 for a set.
I've changed strings like five times (all different guitars, 3 normal acoustics, 1 slot-head parlour and one les paul copy electric) and already bought me the string cutter + winder from Planet Waves. Also for the bridge-pin tool, I never seem to be able to pull those out. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 13, 2010, 02:13:36 am
Good job lnk!
Changing strings can be fun, actually. I tend to play some (guess which) :P

Hey Cue Z.  would that be your girlfriends music Taylor?  lol

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 13, 2010, 02:50:50 am
I just got to my beach house, ready to settle in for a week or 2 with my guitar when i snap the A string within an hour of being there, No music stores within hours, couldn't think of anything worse happening to me (possible exaggeration). At least i'm getting good at triads. Any1 no any songs which are played with triads? All i know is sheriff by clapton.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 13, 2010, 12:37:17 pm
  Substitute by the who's main riff has triads, or so i think? ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 13, 2010, 01:20:58 pm
Yeah, or some Andy McKee/Antoine Dufour/Michael Hedges/Don Ross/Ewan Dobson fingerstyle. :D
I want to learn Woman Of The World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMUdV5IzAc).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 13, 2010, 01:41:52 pm
lol... ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 13, 2010, 02:42:36 pm
Any little secrets or tricks to remembering the 5 positions for the pentatonic scale.  I'm getting them thoroughly mixed up with the 5 major scale positions.  (My forehead is starting to hurt as I have smacked myself countless times already)  I can't for the life of me remember them.  Maybe one position over several days and ingrain it in my brain.  My memory sucks lately, too much going on.  I can't even remember 5 minutes ago most days. 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 13, 2010, 03:28:30 pm
  I usually go up position one till 7th fret on the g, then i slide to the 9, the play the 8 and 10 on the b, then slide to the 13b, then play 12g. After that play 14g, slide to 17g, 19g, then play 19d. Keeps my memory fresh, lol... :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: schect on January 13, 2010, 04:02:06 pm
Lnk,

I have found over the years that focusing on the entire neck works better for me than putting things into positions. See if you can find any info on the extended pent scales. Or, what helped me was to learn all the notes for a particular key on a single string then move on to the next string and do the same. I even make a little game out of seeing if I can improvise over a blues jam track using only one or two strings. You would be suprised how good you can make it sound.

For eample: Key=G, on g string play frets 3,5,7,10,12,15,17

If you figure this out for every string you will never forget where to play and won't even think about positions.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: PJMCM on January 13, 2010, 04:27:13 pm
Maybe one position over several days and ingrain it in my brain. 

Lnk

Yep!!

Peter
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on January 13, 2010, 09:59:38 pm
Yeah I learned them one at a time - maybe spending 4 to 6 weeks on each one before moving on. I'm not all the way through the minor pentatonic yet (only up to posi 3) but I never mix up the first 2 with the major scale.

Also I learned and practiced the major scale in G and the pent in A which maybe makes a difference as I have probs when I switch keys?

One last thing is I also add in the blue notes after a few runs through the pent and kind of play it with a blues cadence skipping quickly through the blue notes (not to a metronome like I do the major scale) so it sounds very different to the major scale as well.

B
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 13, 2010, 10:04:35 pm
How much benifit would I have from learning scales and using different tunings?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on January 13, 2010, 10:12:39 pm
I meant to say "no probs when I change keys" - can't modify or preview from Blackberry....
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 13, 2010, 11:00:15 pm
I want to learn Woman Of The World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMUdV5IzAc).
Lol thought you meant Ladies of the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFjrbmj0CUc&feature=fvw).
both would be cool to learn.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 13, 2010, 11:01:04 pm
 clicked quote instead of modify and dont know how to delete :/

cant even report my own post to the moderator!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 13, 2010, 11:12:17 pm
I want to learn Woman Of The World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMUdV5IzAc).
Lol thought you meant Ladies of the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFjrbmj0CUc&feature=fvw).
both would be cool to learn.
Gotta love that song "Hermaphrodite - Lady, man, lady"
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 14, 2010, 12:17:10 am
Yeah I learned them one at a time - maybe spending 4 to 6 weeks on each one before moving on. I'm not all the way through the minor pentatonic yet (only up to posi 3) but I never mix up the first 2 with the major scale.

Also I learned and practiced the major scale in G and the pent in A which maybe makes a difference as I have probs when I switch keys?

One last thing is I also add in the blue notes after a few runs through the pent and kind of play it with a blues cadence skipping quickly through the blue notes (not to a metronome like I do the major scale) so it sounds very different to the major scale as well.

B

I think my problem is that I want to know it in the shortest time possible.  When I read how much time you are spending learning each position I had a light bulb moment.  Maybe I should just give myself more time on learning and upping the curve.  I thought maybe a month tops and I would know it.  NO WAY though. 

Thanks Schect for your input and I will definitely look into it.

Question for anyone who wants to answer it.....................................

I really like to just sit after practicing and jam and do whatever comes to my fingertips for whatever length of time.  Now should I dissect everything I'm playing to up the learning curve or just leave it for the sheer joy of entertaining myself.  I'm trying to learn myself as much as possible as well as what my teacher gives me.  Good idea or not?  I just think if I get ahead of the game by learning myself that I will advance myself at a faster rate then say someone who just practices what there teacher gives them. I'm aiming to get to a certain point in my playing.  (I want to be advanced enuff to play some EVH's songs and the only way I will get there and sound excellent is by pushing myself to aim for the sky and then the planets).  Am I asking too much of myself?or (slow down and smell the roses type of deal here)
Will I get thoroughly frustrated?  10 months since day 1 of playing for me.
Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: PJMCM on January 14, 2010, 08:43:59 am

I think my problem is that I want to know it in the shortest time possible.  When I read how much time you are spending learning each position I had a light bulb moment.  Maybe I should just give myself more time on learning and upping the curve.  I thought maybe a month tops and I would know it.  NO WAY though.  


There are no shortcuts or quick ways to learn. If you try and get to where you want to be 'in the shortest time possible' you'll only get frustrated - it takes time, probably lots of it.

Question for anyone who wants to answer it.....................................

I really like to just sit after practicing and jam and do whatever comes to my fingertips for whatever length of time.  Now should I dissect everything I'm playing to up the learning curve or just leave it for the sheer joy of entertaining myself.  I'm trying to learn myself as much as possible as well as what my teacher gives me.  Good idea or not?  I just think if I get ahead of the game by learning myself that I will advance myself at a faster rate then say someone who just practices what there teacher gives them. I'm aiming to get to a certain point in my playing.  (I want to be advanced enuff to play some EVH's songs and the only way I will get there and sound excellent is by pushing myself to aim for the sky and then the planets).  Am I asking too much of myself?or (slow down and smell the roses type of deal here)


Most teachers - or anyone else, for that matter - will recommend that after your 'disciplined' practice session, you should also spend some time just messing around. Jamming, soloing, singing along - whatever takes your fancy. It's supposed to be fun as well, so that part is equally important IMHO. Sounds to me like you're moving in the right direction, so I wouldn't 'dissect' what you play in your wee jam session - just let that flow and have fun!!

Will I get thoroughly frustrated?  10 months since day 1 of playing for me.
Licksnkicks


10 months is nothing, in guitar terms. I've heard Justin say that he doesn't know everything, and he's been playing for years! I first started almost 40 years ago (God, that makes me feel old) and have been playing on and off for all that time, but still suck at lots of things!

Back on the topic of what I am learning now, last night I learned a very good lesson. Don't do lots of full-tone bends on an acoustic guitar with 12-gauge strings fitted, cos that rips your fingertips to shreds!  :-[

Peter
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 14, 2010, 11:44:00 am
  I learned a lesson too: Don't bend on acoustic guitar after playing only electric guitar for two months!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 14, 2010, 07:24:48 pm
...
I remember a discussion a while back about what is beginner, intermediate etc in terms of ability .. maybe I'll be able to find it some time ...


found it
http://www.justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=17373.0
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 14, 2010, 07:26:32 pm
...  I have sat and watched quite a few of your vids and I think that you are an amazing player and you play from your heart and soul.  I can hear and feel it.  You are very humble!!!

too kind by far ... I thank you humbly  :)

P.S.  I have pmed you a few of my playing difficulties and you have always been so gracious to help me out.  I regard you as my virtual mentor!  Maybe one day I will play 1/2 as good as you.

Licksnkicks

you are more than welcome ... just paying it forward you know !!  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 14, 2010, 07:32:57 pm
ps

I've just trawled back through loads of this thread ... until a couple of days ago I'd not read it for some time ... and I found this ...

This thread was deemed too fluffy but OMG doesn't it show how incredibly motivated we all are!!!  Some people on this thread are struggling to play thngs and boy when they get it, they sure do deserve bragging rights.  Then we have our resident excellent player Mr. Close2u who I don't think really has to practice as much as us newbs and intermediate players.  I went to his channel and that boy can play.  Talented YES and wow I just love his red guitar.  Don't know what kind it is but it is a beaut!  I'm just motivated by watching his vids cuz I know for sure one day I will be there too.  Not a dream but it's reality.  

Licksnkicks

lnk - you've rendered me speechless and made me smile  :)

pps

red guitar is the SG400 in my sig .. you seen this vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIi73t87twI


ppps

I only post my most bestest vids ... and I practice them first ... you'll be an ace guitarist one day for sure
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Simo on January 15, 2010, 05:55:11 am
I learned how to change my own strings.  Yeah me! I had a nightmare that I broke the strings on my guitar and woke up in a fright only to find my guitar safely nestled in the corner.  It's not the big deal I made it to be in my head.  Not complicated at all.  I have brand new, nicely tight strings and NO twangs happening.  They feel so incredibly luscious.  I absolutely love the feel of new strings.  It's better than chocolate and coming from a female well hell, that's really saying something.:)

Licksnkicks

Congrats. The first time I tried changing strings really was a nightmare. Took hours. I've got it all figured out now though.

As far as what I want to learn...I'm in the mood for something simple. I think I'm gonna give Justin's lesson on CCR's "Have You Ever Seen the Rain?" a try.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 15, 2010, 06:16:44 am
Hi Simo, I don't think I've ever seen you here!  Are you new to this site?  If you are a big hardy welcome comes your way!

Sometimes simple or easy is better.   I know that when I jam it's whatever is easy on the mind and on the fingertips and you know what,  it sounds pretty damned fine.  I love just putting on a really slow blues pentatonic backtrack and going crazy over it.  I don't care who loves it as my kids are always my worst critics but when it comes to jammin' it's whatever is burnin' in my soul and exudes out to the fingertips that play the strings and that always floats my boat.  Whatever makes you happy.  That's a fact Jack!!!! lol

Licksnkicks 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 15, 2010, 04:38:41 pm
  1/2way through the solo to Stairway to Heaven. I learned it  on my acoustic before, but I just thought to relearn it properly. And when I'm done with that, I'm gonna learn Layla(both versions). :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 15, 2010, 07:33:00 pm
I once tried playing some notes from the Stairway To Heaven solo, but I can't bend on my acoustic. :P
I should try it on the elctric, but I can't seem to find enough drive to really learn it front to back.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 15, 2010, 09:04:42 pm
Transcribing Drop Dead Legs atm EVH is alot harder to transcribe but at least he's in standard
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 16, 2010, 01:04:30 pm
I'm gonna learn Layla(both versions). :)
me 2, just got the first fart down  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 16, 2010, 02:13:56 pm
  I actually transcribed the intro to the acoustic one and the chords. I'm not gonna learn the solos as they are alway improvised. So now learning the electric riff. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 16, 2010, 04:58:04 pm
  Man, I'm on a roll! I transcribed Layla(both versions), transcribed Life's Been Good(the whole intro), and transcribed I shot the sheriff, all by playing along! Cool, I just can't stop... :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 17, 2010, 04:16:56 pm
  Man, I'm on a roll! I transcribed Layla(both versions), transcribed Life's Been Good(the whole intro), and transcribed I shot the sheriff, all by playing along! Cool, I just can't stop... :)

Wow you are an ambitious lot aren't you?  That's so cool though.

I'm just on doing air changes  in J's lessons and I feel like a totally uncooridinated imcompetent!

My fingers just aren't doing what my brain wants them to. 

Does anybody know if there is any other exercises that I could be doing to enhance the experience!!

Licksnkicks

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 17, 2010, 04:30:15 pm
  Thanks lnk. About the air changes, I don't know. I haven't really used Justin's Beginners Course except for the JUSTIN exercises(which really helped). When I checked the consolidation test, I just knew everything, and I just knew I wasn't a beginner anymore. One day that day will come for everyone(of course after hard work). :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: George S on January 17, 2010, 05:42:41 pm

I am using the info in the following :-

"A simple & powerful pattern to help understand scales"

posted by Zapped in Aug 2008..... I came across it a couple of days ago, you can trace it through the Tips and Tricks thred, and it really opened my eyes on how to get round the fret board especially the second part of the lesson.

I can now find my way round all the scales I know and it is helping me memorise where the individual notes are on the fret board

Its the best bit of instruction I have found in the last 3 years
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Simo on January 17, 2010, 06:53:53 pm
Hi Simo, I don't think I've ever seen you here!  Are you new to this site?  If you are a big hardy welcome comes your way!

Sometimes simple or easy is better.   I know that when I jam it's whatever is easy on the mind and on the fingertips and you know what,  it sounds pretty damned fine.  I love just putting on a really slow blues pentatonic backtrack and going crazy over it.  I don't care who loves it as my kids are always my worst critics but when it comes to jammin' it's whatever is burnin' in my soul and exudes out to the fingertips that play the strings and that always floats my boat.  Whatever makes you happy.  That's a fact Jack!!!! lol

Licksnkicks 

Yes, I am new. Thanks for the welcome!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 17, 2010, 10:28:00 pm

I am using the info in the following :-

"A simple & powerful pattern to help understand scales"

posted by Zapped in Aug 2008..... I came across it a couple of days ago, you can trace it through the Tips and Tricks thred, and it really opened my eyes on how to get round the fret board especially the second part of the lesson.

I can now find my way round all the scales I know and it is helping me memorise where the individual notes are on the fret board

Its the best bit of instruction I have found in the last 3 years
 

Hey George can you send me a link please and thank you. 

Much appreciated.

Licknkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 17, 2010, 11:49:12 pm
I'm practising Drifting again, trying to hit EVERY note EXACTLY right with the rhythm SPOT ON and at FULL SPEED... while beaming at my wallpaper (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Dusky1991/desktop_2.png?t=1263772080)!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 18, 2010, 12:04:59 pm
  lol, that wallpaper... ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: George S on January 18, 2010, 12:57:02 pm


Hey George can you send me a link please and thank you. 

Much appreciated.

Licknkicks

Hi Licknkicks

Please find the following as requested I hope you find it as usefull as I did.

I actual fact I have been using this system this morning.

 
http://www.justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=10992.0


Have Fun regards George S
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 18, 2010, 02:58:47 pm
I'm practising Drifting again, trying to hit EVERY note EXACTLY right with the rhythm SPOT ON and at FULL SPEED... while beaming at my wallpaper (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Dusky1991/desktop_2.png?t=1263772080)!


Good Morning Cue Z!  I knew soon as I saw "beaming at my wallpaper" how could I not guess it was Tyler Swift??!!  You crack me up.  I would say that you are obsessed with her!  That's ok though cuz everyone has an idol or mentor or in your case someone they drool over in life.  I have one too!

Hey George thanks for the link bud!  Zapped is an amazing person and knows his theory like the back of his hand.  I will check it out when all is calm at my house.  Utter chaos right now! 

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 18, 2010, 03:32:12 pm
More drool than lol fro me @ my wallpaper.
Taylor is the one that can get the 'my idol' label, but not just that, she's just... rawrrr.
Edit: Maybe that movie 'Valentine's Day' coming out on, well you guessed it... maybe that will clean up my thoughts/dreams/fantasies like dirt gets cleaned off with a high-pressure cleaner.

Other idols worth mentioning include Michael Hedges and Andy McKee.
My 'songs to learn' list keeps growing and I have no clue what to start with!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Humbuck on January 18, 2010, 08:13:47 pm
I'm working my way through Under the Bridge.  I've got pretty much everything down except the intro.  My fingers are slow when moving into that D barre chord which throws everyting off >:(.  Hopefully I'll have that remedied with some practice though.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 18, 2010, 10:51:14 pm
I'm practising Drifting again, trying to hit EVERY note EXACTLY right with the rhythm SPOT ON and at FULL SPEED... while beaming at my wallpaper (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Dusky1991/desktop_2.png?t=1263772080)!

It's interesting you find her hot...is it that she plays an instrument and has talent or her looks?  Honestly, don't think she's that hot.  But obviously that's completely imo.  Mila Kunis > all imo but hey each to their own.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 18, 2010, 11:31:28 pm
Seriously, WHO?!
It's a combination of all that.
I love the way she acts so normal, I love the way she sings, even though she's one of the less gifted singers, and I can say she needs some singing lessons. She also writes her songs (both lyrics and I assume the basic song structure/chords too) herself, and of which I like a lot, also explains why 90% of her songs use either the chords D A Em G or G Em C D, which lead me to think she can't play barre chords. I just loooooove the way she looks for some reason. I'm all mad about her beautiful blonde curls, her beautiful blue eyes and that sweet smile. She doesn't have a huge rack/huge jugs/WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM like what many guys seem to dig.
More?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 18, 2010, 11:51:07 pm
Seriously, WHO?!
It's a combination of all that.
I love the way she acts so normal, I love the way she sings, even though she's one of the less gifted singers, and I can say she needs some singing lessons. She also writes her songs (both lyrics and I assume the basic song structure/chords too) herself, and of which I like a lot, also explains why 90% of her songs use either the chords D A Em G or G Em C D, which lead me to think she can't play barre chords. I just loooooove the way she looks for some reason. I'm all mad about her beautiful blonde curls, her beautiful blue eyes and that sweet smile. She doesn't have a huge rack/huge jugs/WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM like what many guys seem to dig.
More?
She's Jackie from That 70s Show...was in Forgetting Sarah Marshall.  Anyway I can vouch for you on the "huge jugs" front. Just google Mila Kunis and you'd know that lol.  After a certain size it get's waaaaaaaaay less attractive.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 19, 2010, 12:09:52 am
Whatever floats your boat man (fakes float better btw).

On topic...
I'm trying to get my thumb used to the thumb picking technique.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 19, 2010, 12:43:39 am

 I'm all mad about her beautiful blonde curls, her beautiful blue eyes and that sweet smile. She doesn't have a huge rack/huge jugs/WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM like what many guys seem to dig.


Cue Z I think you really look at what makes a person tick!  Not all the superficial crap.  I think that you SIR are such a gentleman and I applaud you for that kind of thinking.  It's not what's in front but what's up top that matters to you.  I think Taylor is adorable and she does have talent.  Her beautiful blonde locks and sweet smile is enuff to make men all over the world fall hopelessly in love with her and you happen to be one of them.  I think her playing guitar helps too!

So I'm trying to practice scales and more exercises with alternate picking but here's my dilema, I have the wondering pinky finger that seems to do a lift  off from the fretboard during playing.  I never noticed how really bad this prob was until I start playing scales last night.  I try to keep it very close to the frets but it seems no matter what I do I can't get it close enuff.  Will I over come this? Is it just  a matter of time so to speak?  I'm not playing anymore new songs and just trying to concentrate on theory and technique.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 19, 2010, 07:09:17 pm
You know what is really pathetic?
I've been crazy about Taylor for a longer time than I have sustained a relationship with a girl.
It's really funny because I'm not so obsessed that I live in another world.
Also I can't seem to want to sleep before I have listened to some of her tunes. :P


Trying to play tunes in DADGAD which were originally in standard. I'm too lazy to tune back to standard! And it sounds cool as well!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 20, 2010, 01:14:49 pm
  I'm getting used to playing acoustic, because my high e on the electric snapped, and I'm probably gonna order the pick-ups then change them and etc... :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 20, 2010, 06:00:16 pm
Doing some exercises that incorporate alternate picking and the jumping of strings.  Fun little exercise once you get the hand of it.

As for songs I'm learning Black Dog, Jimmy Page, Led Zepplin.  My teacher thinks I'm ready for it but I don't necessarily agree.  It will be a challenge. 

Last night was my lesson and I had the best time of my life!  We played Back in Black together and I managed to make just a couple of teeny mistakes but we sounded so awesome together and then we played some blues. Incorporating the minor pentatonic, the blues scale and the Dorian scale!  Me doing rythym and my teacher doing solo and then vica versa.  I walked out of there feeling 20 feet tall.  My teacher noticed I was playing a lot better and with more confidence.  I totally felt like I owned the world too.  To think I have come this far!  I never for one doubted that I wouldn't make it this far but there were a few naysayers in the crowd and thank God I turned a deaf ear to them.  Got to learn more theory though!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 20, 2010, 07:04:33 pm
I'm practising alternate thumb picking while I haven't even got my alternate normal picking! Haha.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 20, 2010, 08:18:11 pm
If you guys want a fun alternate picking exercise watch Justins 'wipeout' song lesson and learn it in alternate picking. Much more fun than doing scales.

Blues package arrived today  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 21, 2010, 12:38:29 pm
If you guys want a fun alternate picking exercise watch Justins 'wipeout' song lesson and learn it in alternate picking.
I did that before I lost all my picks intentionally. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 21, 2010, 02:58:05 pm
Learning the solo in Back in Black!  Not easy!  Too all you seasoned players in may seem like a walk in the park but to get it right it sure isn't easy.  This will be no overnight project more like a month or so.  The end results though will be worth the effort.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 21, 2010, 03:16:14 pm
  Good luck with the solo lnk! :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 21, 2010, 07:57:27 pm
Doing some exercises that incorporate alternate picking and the jumping of strings.  Fun little exercise once you get the hand of it.

As for songs I'm learning Black Dog, Jimmy Page, Led Zepplin.  My teacher thinks I'm ready for it but I don't necessarily agree.  It will be a challenge. 

Last night was my lesson and I had the best time of my life!  We played Back in Black together and I managed to make just a couple of teeny mistakes but we sounded so awesome together and then we played some blues. Incorporating the minor pentatonic, the blues scale and the Dorian scale!  Me doing rythym and my teacher doing solo and then vica versa.  I walked out of there feeling 20 feet tall.  My teacher noticed I was playing a lot better and with more confidence.  I totally felt like I owned the world too.  To think I have come this far!  I never for one doubted that I wouldn't make it this far but there were a few naysayers in the crowd and thank God I turned a deaf ear to them.  Got to learn more theory though!

Lnk

Full song?  End solo and all?  If so that's impressive.  Even just the first solo and then the cool bit after is pretty good.  I've never gotten round to learning the end solo.  Is it that hard?

EDIT: Just saw you said you're learning it atm.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 21, 2010, 08:25:39 pm
I did that before I lost all my picks intentionally. ;)
Dedicated MK fan right there
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 22, 2010, 02:39:43 am


Full song?  End solo and all?  If so that's impressive.  Even just the first solo and then the cool bit after is pretty good.  I've never gotten round to learning the end solo.  Is it that hard?

EDIT: Just saw you said you're learning it atm.

What song do you mean?  AC/DC or Led Zepplin

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 22, 2010, 01:06:58 pm
I just learned that I put the high E on incorrectly. Now it has snapped. T_T'
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: strapp75 on January 22, 2010, 01:35:03 pm
I'm learning "Born under a bad sign" by Albert King.  :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 22, 2010, 02:59:02 pm
  Playing around with DADGAD. Cool, I like it. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 22, 2010, 04:03:10 pm
Play around with CGCFGC? :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 22, 2010, 04:28:17 pm
  Tuned my guitar up to open E, and I decided to check Justin's She Talks To Angels lesson. I just learnt it now. Just gotta fix my timing with the intro and the occasional harmonic parts(I don't strum hard enough on those). So, I love Open tunings!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 22, 2010, 04:34:11 pm
I like modal tunings over the open ones actually. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: George S on January 22, 2010, 10:26:18 pm

I have been working my way through this for a couple of days ..... sounds great through a small valve amp


http://dl.guitarworld.com/Lessons/Soloing_Strats/0606-Soloing-King.pdf
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 23, 2010, 02:43:54 am
Her Majesty by The Beatles - 26 seconds yet harder than many 5 minute songs.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on January 23, 2010, 09:06:15 am

I have been working my way through this for a couple of days ..... sounds great through a small valve amp


http://dl.guitarworld.com/Lessons/Soloing_Strats/0606-Soloing-King.pdf

Hi George, welcome to the forums ... I  learned that piece last year when I was just starting with the pentatonic stuff ... it is a great little solo ... probably time to revisit and see if I can do a better job cause my skills have improved in the time since .... anyway ... it's here if you'd care to take a look ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs8LCa0F7dU

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 23, 2010, 02:02:56 pm
I think I need to learn an intro somewhere... :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 23, 2010, 02:07:04 pm
  Fixed my timing with She Talks To Angels. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mike42 on January 24, 2010, 12:03:31 am
Right now I'm working on Definitely Maybe by FM Static. I transcribed the intro easily, but I had to look at a video to figure out the chords. Right now I'm trying to figure out the bridge because the version on the video doesn't sound quite right to me.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 24, 2010, 01:33:22 am
I was just messing around when I played something familiar, it was only 4 notes and it lead me to transcribing all of "Woman" by Wolfmother.  Admittadly it's a simple song but I'm proud of myself :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 24, 2010, 12:55:30 pm
Just tried to improvise in a position of the major scale I wasn't familiar with, which turned out to be quite fun.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 24, 2010, 01:09:47 pm
  Improvising and playing along to Cocaine. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: schect on January 25, 2010, 02:28:08 pm
Currently working on the solos to "Let It Be" and "Something" for a jam next week.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 25, 2010, 03:30:41 pm
  Improvising blues solos. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 25, 2010, 08:17:31 pm
I just broke my high E string when playing the Wanted Dead or Alive solo, I was finally getting the pinch harmonics to scream like Sambora so I might've gone overboard on the bends :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 25, 2010, 08:19:24 pm
I broke it whilst tuning down from D to C, so you've done a whole lot better than me! Haha.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 26, 2010, 01:01:25 pm
  I'm so bored that I'm just playing around with the settings on my amp. :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 26, 2010, 09:09:06 pm
I broke it whilst tuning down from D to C, so you've done a whole lot better than me! Haha.
It was getting a little rusty, but I hate changing strings, today I bought two packs of unusual strings.  Super Slinky and Hybrid Slinky Ernie Balls, hoping they'll be awesome.  Super Slinky are going on atm.  Couldn't get 10s though so my guitar will feel weird to me for a while now.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 26, 2010, 09:17:02 pm
I hate it when a string snaps while tuning down, and even more because a set costs €10...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 26, 2010, 11:08:29 pm
I hate it when a string snaps while tuning down, and even more because a set costs €10...
€8 for Ernie Balls here, Elixir are the top end ones which are coated in nano...xx--xx and are €20
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 26, 2010, 11:57:08 pm
I have coated D'Addario EXP and they feel much nicer, as if they were uncoated.
They are a tad cheaper too. Though there aren't many places where they sell the EXPs
There used to be Elixir nanowebs on mine, they were very nice, but I'd say the D'addario's are just as nice. Wait until I throw on a set of EXP17... (I have a set of EXP12 now).

I ought to get me tons of sets of cheap ass Martin strings, then I can snap as much as I want and not break the bank.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Simo on January 27, 2010, 01:27:25 am
Can't stand elixir strings. Way too slick. Got some as a gift and took them off my guitar very quickly after using them. Don't know if the slickness wears off but I didn't want to find out.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 27, 2010, 03:04:41 am
I have the D'Addario EXL120 9/42's on my desk but decided to give the Gibson hybrid 9/42's a try and dammit they feel so amazing.  Mind you there only like 2 weeks old. 

Anyhow I'm learning the Spider which J has a tutorial on, it's damned hard though.  Putting my pinky through a grueling regimen so I have a pinky of steel.  Why couldn't we be born with all the same strength fingers.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 27, 2010, 01:01:51 pm
I have EXL110 or 110+ on the electric, they are really nice. I would like to try the 140s sometime (10-53 or something like that).
Elixir's are indeed a bit different, you either like them or not, and the slickness does not wear off quickly, I snapped a string even before I could say it wore off. The thing that's nice about them is that they don't screech as much when sliding up and down the neck. Especially handy for recording.
I do recommend trying the coated D'Addario's though.

And I WAAAAAANT to learn this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPB-ShG_UWY
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 27, 2010, 03:17:24 pm
  I use NickelSteels on my electric, and Alchemy's on my acoustic. Anyway, getting really into the improvising thing. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 27, 2010, 03:28:32 pm
  I use NickelSteels on my electric, and Alchemy's on my acoustic. Anyway, getting really into the improvising thing. :)
What are you improvising over?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 27, 2010, 04:32:07 pm
  The 12 bar blues in A.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 28, 2010, 02:05:51 am
Got the opening riff down cold to Black dog by Led Zepplin.  What a nice solo riff!  I really feel like I'm becoming a guitar player finally!!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on January 29, 2010, 08:12:00 am
Pink floyd's Is there anybody out there, quite easy piece to learn for a beginner like me :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: PJMCM on January 29, 2010, 11:32:40 am
Pink floyd's Is there anybody out there, quite easy piece to learn for a beginner like me :)

You'll find some tips in this thread (http://www.justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=17179.0) where other Forumites have posted their covers of this song on YouTube. Why not post your's there too when you learn it!!

Peter
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on January 29, 2010, 12:27:21 pm
Pink floyd's Is there anybody out there, quite easy piece to learn for a beginner like me :)

You'll find some tips in this thread (http://www.justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=17179.0) where other Forumites have posted their covers of this song on YouTube. Why not post your's there too when you learn it!!

Peter

Owh, thankies! I'll check it out, though I got it all memorized now, just need to get those mistakes out of the way and hopefully one day I can play it faster than I do now
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 29, 2010, 02:48:10 pm
  Got my hendrix style fixed, now gonna take a more serious look towards Little Wing. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 29, 2010, 11:35:06 pm
Learning the gospel blues, already bleeding from sliding too much  :'(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 29, 2010, 11:36:32 pm
Yay!  My guitar teacher is now giving me transcription homework.  He just shows me two random licks and I transcribe them, hopefully this'll be a continuous thing.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on January 29, 2010, 11:40:46 pm
I've been practicing a bunch of different major scale positions and coming to terms with my rhythm being effed. Once someone pointed it out though it was only a matter of practice practice practice, tap tap tap. 1-2-3-4 all that basic stuff, but it's really paying off and has actually quite improved my left right hand synchronization.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 30, 2010, 12:21:52 am
I NEEEEEEEEEED to re-record my 'solo' because I missed every single beat there was to miss and it isn't very coherent with the rest of the arrangement... BLEH.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 30, 2010, 04:01:55 am
Just snapped my high e string improvising to some blues  :'( . I seem to have a knack for breaking my strings either at the start of the weekend or when I leave on holiday.

Btw how often do you guys break a string? I have broken about 5 in 2 months.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on January 30, 2010, 05:00:08 am


Btw how often do you guys break a string? I have broken about 5 in 2 months.

I have never broke a string YET!!  I dread it happening though.  I have seen something pretty nasty lacerations because of this!  BTW what kind of strings are ya using?

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 30, 2010, 10:19:14 am
 I have snapped 3 in 9 months... :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on January 30, 2010, 10:51:44 am
Haven't broken any of my own recently but did break one on a friends guitar - she wanted me to evaluate it for selling - the strings were so old and corroded that when I tried to tune it the D string snapped before it even got close to being in tune.

Just put new strings on my Missy my Maton Messiah - Phosphur Bronze Elixirs - I've been very remiss and haven't played her since before Christmas because her strings needed replacing - but absence does make the heart grow fonder. It was such a joy to play her again today - she has such a bright sound and the full gloss finish makes the neck a delight to play. This may sound a bit weird - or indeed even kinky - but Missy is my best smelling guitar I own. I had to wait for her to be finished and so she shipped to me literally the day she left the factory floor and because I always keep her in her case she has retained the glue smell that freshly minted guitars have. I always delight in opening the case and getting that glue smell with a whiff of Indian Rosewood.

Happiness is a new set of strings and a beautiful guitar........

Now to change the strings on my 2 other acoustics that desperately require new strings.....
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 30, 2010, 01:33:31 pm
The Stairway To Heaven solo!
My cousin said he was learning it (and he has lessons), so I thought, "hey I can do that".
:P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 30, 2010, 01:56:08 pm
  Good luck Cue. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 30, 2010, 03:05:19 pm
Thanks zkash! I'll need it!
I just learned that the cheap electric that used to be my grandpa's, really is a cheap guitar, I'd been bending on it and now it's detuned! The solo I'd recorded (for my project!) is now juuuuust a liiitle flat.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 30, 2010, 04:02:32 pm
  My guitar's a nightmare when I change tunings. It seems to go sharp when I tune to Eb, and flat to standard.  ::)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 30, 2010, 04:39:56 pm
I need to work on my timing, I can't get it sorted!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 30, 2010, 06:26:49 pm
Just snapped my high e string improvising to some blues  :'( . I seem to have a knack for breaking my strings either at the start of the weekend or when I leave on holiday.

Btw how often do you guys break a string? I have broken about 5 in 2 months.
It's always the high E for me.  This happened to me once the night before a music practical test...needless to say I was xx--xx it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: rendelven on January 30, 2010, 08:00:57 pm
I've broken two strings. I was practicing some bends on an acoustic and my G string broke twice. It was right around the nut so I brought it in for service and it never happened again.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 30, 2010, 08:14:08 pm
Just snapped my high e string improvising to some blues  :'( . I seem to have a knack for breaking my strings either at the start of the weekend or when I leave on holiday.
Btw how often do you guys break a string? I have broken about 5 in 2 months.
It's always the high E for me.
Ditto for me, I just bend, snaps in my fingers... ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on January 30, 2010, 09:40:00 pm
Just snapped my high e string improvising to some blues  :'( . I seem to have a knack for breaking my strings either at the start of the weekend or when I leave on holiday.
Btw how often do you guys break a string? I have broken about 5 in 2 months.
It's always the high E for me.
Ditto for me, I just bend, snaps in my fingers... ;)
Scariest thing too, for a second I'm always like "Wtf?!"
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on January 31, 2010, 12:17:03 am
Hurray for the rock shop being open on Sundays!
BTW what kind of strings are ya using?
I always get different strings just to try and see which i like the best, I had slinky strings last, now i am using Justin's recommended DR strings.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on January 31, 2010, 10:34:41 am
  I do wish I could try out some DR's, but I can't find them anywhere...Meh, gotta settle for my Dean Markley's...   ::)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Humbuck on January 31, 2010, 05:08:44 pm
I'm just about to start trying to work out Valleys of Neptune by ear (although I'm sure I'll make a fair amount of mistakes).  Just been sitting around listening to it for the last little while so I at least have a general vibe of the tune.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 31, 2010, 05:17:34 pm
I took a brief look at Page 99 and I've memorized about half of the Stairway To Heaven solo. I really like the solo tbh.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Xaromir on January 31, 2010, 06:17:31 pm
Page 99 is really nice, also took a quick look,
but i continue to work on something else, since greensleves really starts to sound very dull,
now that i'm getting to the end.
Maybe i post some bars in my rc at some point.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on January 31, 2010, 06:19:11 pm
Page 99 isn't too hard (I've practised this kind of fingerstyle before), it's just the little details that I have to memorize. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mike42 on January 31, 2010, 07:49:02 pm
I've just started looking at Page 99. It's such a catchy song, but I haven't learned much fingerstyle yet so I have a feeling it's going to take a little while to get that pattern down.

I have all day today to practice, so hopefully I can get the basics down before the day's over :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Sl8sh on February 01, 2010, 12:12:27 am
I'm going to attempt Motley Crue's Wild Side.  I've pretty much learned most of the GnR songs I was interested in and most of the parts that I can play. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 01, 2010, 03:52:58 pm
Page 99 is really nice, also took a quick look.
  Ditto, but I'm not really into playing that sort of stuff(complex acoustic stuff with capos). Good vid though Justin. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Sl8sh on February 01, 2010, 04:44:48 pm
Oh thanks for reminding me!!!!! I need to get a capo.  Anyone know how much they usually are?

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on February 01, 2010, 05:56:03 pm
Oh thanks for reminding me!!!!! I need to get a capo.  Anyone know how much they usually are?


Fairly cheap, under €10 or £5
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 01, 2010, 06:37:37 pm
Around €20, I own a Dunlop Trigger Capo, a Kyser (though short-cut), and a Shubb C1k. These were all around that price.
Stay away from the G7th capo, it's too expensive, haha.

@ zkash:
It's not THAT complex... but hell what can I say? :P

Just tried to play an easy progression (D Em G A) with barre chords halfway up the neck. I think I'm gonna stick with that to sort out my barre chords (E A C and D shape).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on February 01, 2010, 07:30:58 pm
Around €20, I own a Dunlop Trigger Capo, a Kyser (though short-cut), and a Shubb C1k. These were all around that price.
Stay away from the G7th capo, it's too expensive, haha.

@ zkash:
It's not THAT complex... but hell what can I say? :P

Just tried to play an easy progression (D Em G A) with barre chords halfway up the neck. I think I'm gonna stick with that to sort out my barre chords (E A C and D shape).
Woah, I must've got mine cheap then...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Xaromir on February 02, 2010, 04:55:31 am
Page 99 is really nice, also took a quick look.
  Ditto, but I'm not really into playing that sort of stuff(complex acoustic stuff with capos). Good vid though Justin. :)

DUDE! You so have to try it! :D
I get into classic these days,
it's very rewarding once you figure that fingerstyle stuff out.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 02, 2010, 10:00:20 am
it's very useful too, and it's fun to play it over non-fingerstyle songs. I still need to get my alternate thumb picking down as wel as alternate flat(normal)picking.

Yesterday I checked out all five positions while I only knew position 1 (E) and 4 (C) and had to look up 2 (D). I figured out A and G by ear, it's so much fun. Next up I want to find out the other maj and min pent positions (though I am not too familiar with the sound of either).
Also, yesterday I started writing down some cool chord shapes to try and use, including some jazzy chords (7 and 9 stuff).
I have to look up some but others I can figure out by just knowing the notes on the neck and knowing which note I need to add, which is also quite a lot of fun.

Oh, I'm a 'Stadium Superstar' now. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 02, 2010, 12:34:59 pm
@ zkash:
It's not THAT complex... but hell what can I say? :P
Just tried to play an easy progression (D Em G A) with barre chords halfway up the neck. I think I'm gonna stick with that to sort out my barre chords (E A C and D shape).
  I know, but I dont like using my 3rd finger in fingerstyle. BTW, good to see you back in standard tuning... ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 02, 2010, 01:06:34 pm
LOL!
That actually made me chuckle a bit! :P

Oh, try finger picks btw. I'm not so great at using them but the thumbpick is very very useful.
I mostly use my nails, I just slide my fingers off the string until it gets plucked with the nail.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: strapp75 on February 02, 2010, 04:50:58 pm
I'm learning to play "Layla". I bet i'm not the only one...  ;)

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Tinman402 on February 02, 2010, 08:10:44 pm
Currently I am working on Bon Jovi's Dead or Alive..  Also looking at "you give love a bad name"...

I just got done with:

Learning to Fly
Wondreful Tonight


Next on the agenda I want to learn Warrant's "Sometimes she Cries"..


Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on February 02, 2010, 09:56:53 pm
Texas Flood, I had it down once, forgot about it and now have to re-learn. Transcribing is a heck of a lot easier the second time around though.  :)

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on February 02, 2010, 10:04:36 pm
Currently I am working on Bon Jovi's Dead or Alive..  Also looking at "you give love a bad name"...

I just got done with:

Learning to Fly
Wondreful Tonight


Next on the agenda I want to learn Warrant's "Sometimes she Cries"..



Wanted Dead or Alive you mean...great intro, the chords are fun to play too.  Do you mean Learn To Fly by Foo Fighters?  I played that a few years ago, can't remember it anymore, starts in Em right?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Tinman402 on February 02, 2010, 10:07:26 pm

Wanted Dead or Alive you mean...great intro, the chords are fun to play too.  Do you mean Learn To Fly by Foo Fighters?  I played that a few years ago, can't remember it anymore, starts in Em right?

Yeah "wanted dead or alive"..

And the other one is an easy old Tom petty song "Learning to Fly"..
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on February 02, 2010, 10:09:34 pm
Texas Flood, I had it down once, forgot about it and now have to re-learn. Transcribing is a heck of a lot easier the second time around though.  :)

W

Hey Quark this is a great SRV song.  I can't play it yet on my guitar but it's my fav Rock Band song.  This song is as smooth as silk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Love it.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 02, 2010, 11:33:15 pm
And the other one is an easy old Tom petty song "Learning to Fly"..
I guess he failed because he's Free Fallin'. :P
I'm now trying to strum and then pick notes and then strum again. It's fun for embellishments, which I like.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on February 03, 2010, 12:08:44 am
Quote
[Hey Quark this is a great SRV song.  I can't play it yet on my guitar but it's my fav Rock Band song.  This song is as smooth as silk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Love it.

Lnk/quote]

Yes, it is a great song, one of my favorites from Stevie! Love the intro!

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Tinman402 on February 03, 2010, 02:05:03 am

I guess he failed because he's Free Fallin'. :P
I'm now trying to strum and then pick notes and then strum again. It's fun for embellishments, which I like.

LOL..
"Learning to Fly" is a good song to learn to sing while your playing. Easy to sing and pretty easy to strum... :)  I am using it as a warm up tune..

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on February 03, 2010, 02:52:50 am
Learning arpeggios the baby step way!  These are beyond difficult.  They sound beautiful when done correctly and being played by my amazing teacher  and sound like crap when I do them but oh well I can only get better and tonight was my first night at doing them.  I made a pact with myself and that was not to get frantic over something I couldn't understand or play.  I used to worry that I wouldn't get things and slowly but surely I'm doing it. The theory is totally a different thing and anything that boggles my mind you can be sure I will be asking questions about whatever it is and will ask until I understand.  My mantra now is PRACTICE, PLAY AND BE HAPPY!

Licksnkicks

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on February 03, 2010, 04:37:31 am
Learning arpeggios the baby step way!  These are beyond difficult.  They sound beautiful when done correctly and being played by my amazing teacher  and sound like crap when I do them but oh well I can only get better and tonight was my first night at doing them.  I made a pact with myself and that was not to get frantic over something I couldn't understand or play.  I used to worry that I wouldn't get things and slowly but surely I'm doing it. The theory is totally a different thing and anything that boggles my mind you can be sure I will be asking questions about whatever it is and will ask until I understand.  My mantra now is PRACTICE, PLAY AND BE HAPPY!

Licksnkicks



The acousticy intro to fade to black by metallica is a great song for practicing arpeggiations, as well as songs like don't fear the reaper, and kryptonite by three doors down. One that is a little more advanced would be like under the bridge. I personally used fade to black to practice my arpegiation as it is really your right hand you want to focus on, making your timing even between each note your striking and what not. Remember arpeggiations are simple ascending and descending chord patterns.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 03, 2010, 10:35:27 am
And the other one is an easy old Tom petty song "Learning to Fly"..
I guess he failed because he's Free Fallin'. :P
  LOL! Anyway, everytimer I listen to Cocaine, I pick up a different lick, which I then use in the key of A. Quite fun actually. Still having failed attempts at writing songs(lyrically)...  ::)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 03, 2010, 01:50:41 pm
I ought to check out "Learning To Fly" then.
You know what, Blackbird is a nice one to play and sing simultaneously. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Tinman402 on February 03, 2010, 02:19:29 pm
I ought to check out "Learning To Fly" then.
You know what, Blackbird is a nice one to play and sing simultaneously. :D

strum it like this

F = down, up
C = up, up, down
Am = down, up
G = up, up, down

then repeat... Thats the song... Easy enough to learn to sing too.  My singing sucks..lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 03, 2010, 05:39:22 pm
Now I don't wanna check it anymore, lol.
But thanks anyway. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 03, 2010, 05:53:19 pm
  OK, uploaded my Cocaine cover in the audio/video of you playing. If you wanna hang out, you gotta check out , my cover... ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on February 03, 2010, 08:12:16 pm
I ought to check out "Learning To Fly" then.
You know what, Blackbird is a nice one to play and sing simultaneously. :D
omg - so it is.  Maybe it's because I have it memorised but I can actually sing this one...if only I could sing higher.  My voice is waaay too deep for mccartney :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 03, 2010, 08:23:02 pm
I can't go that high either. Well, comfortably that is, I mean, I can hit a D5 if I want to. I can even sing in the same key as Taylor if I want to (her range sucks), haha.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on February 03, 2010, 08:26:16 pm
I can't go that high either. Well, comfortably that is, I mean, I can hit a D5 if I want to. I can even sing in the same key as Taylor if I want to (her range sucks), haha.
It's really annoying because whenever I try to go high my voice goes sort of raspy and it sounds like I can't breathe.  For example, Master Exploder has a huge high part to it which I just cannot do, I can do the rest of it though :(  I was wondering if people can get vocal lessons to allow them to sing at higher pitches or lower pitches...anyone know?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Tinman402 on February 03, 2010, 08:29:29 pm
The only place I hit high notes is in the shower after my 5 year old has flushed the downstairs toilet...  :o

I can't sing very well. I just want to be able to do back up mumbling if needed..
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 03, 2010, 08:46:04 pm
It's worthy to note that my lowest note I can sing is around Eb2.
I used to have a vocal range of 1.5 octaves which I can now stretch up to 3 with practice.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 03, 2010, 08:54:09 pm
It's worthy to note that my lowest note I can sing is around Eb2.
I used to have a vocal range of 1.5 octaves which I can now stretch up to 3 with practice.
  I just go out there and sing. No proper technique(sitting down, straight up...) although I focusn on not using my throat. Some songs in the key of G I just can't stay in tune. :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on February 03, 2010, 08:59:06 pm
It's worthy to note that my lowest note I can sing is around Eb2.
I used to have a vocal range of 1.5 octaves which I can now stretch up to 3 with practice.
It might be...to someone who knows vaguely what you're talking about lol

I have no idea on my range, I've never checked, Eb sounds pretty low though, I'm guessing that's the same sound as tuning a guitar down half a step and hitting the thick E yes?  So if you were to sing in Eb would you play with half-step down tuning?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 03, 2010, 09:26:12 pm
Yes, that's true, although it depends on the song which tuning I use.
If I'm playing fingerstylish bits that I need to do in a particular key, I might want to change tuning or capo somewhere.
In some cases I'd be better off getting a baritone, but these are expensive, unfortunately.
For singing Blackbird, I'd probably hate to tune down to Eb or D. Or C# in extreme cases, it can't go lower though (I use mediums).

There's nothing wrong with sitting down when playing guitar and singing, I'd say. I mean, I have singing lessons and I have to take my guitar everytime and I also sit down when singing there. I either have to go fingerstyle or Hedges style if I want to make my guitar playing less boring during singing...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on February 04, 2010, 12:36:17 am
Haha i cant sing to save myself, I can only sing with a deep voice to a select few songs, eg "you get a shiver in the dark, it's raining in the park..."

Right now I am learning Justin's solo arrangement of Yesterday. I have decided I will make it into my 1st youtube video when I have it down  (maybe 2day or 2moro). Lol even turning my video camera on makes me a bit nervous and I make more mistakes  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 04, 2010, 02:48:28 am
I can do that one too, as well as "Getting crazy on the waltzers, but it's the lfe that I choose..."
However I can also do "If you could see that I'm the one who understands you, been h... - ... so why can't you see, you belong with me...", or "We were both young when I first saw you, I close m...", but it sounds kinda naff (well duh :P), lol.
Not that I can save myself with it now, but maybe later. There's always a possibility, and I will never deny that.

I should get myself together and start posting some proper covers on my channel.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 04, 2010, 08:47:28 am
I can do that one too, as well as "Getting crazy on the waltzers, but it's the lfe that I choose..."
However I can also do "If you could see that I'm the one who understands you, been h... - ... so why can't you see, you belong with me...", or "We were both young when I first saw you, I close m...", but it sounds kinda naff (well duh :P), lol.
Not that I can save myself with it now, but maybe later. There's always a possibility, and I will never deny that.
I should get myself together and start posting some proper covers on my channel.
  I can sing like Knopfler(the way he does). Taylor's songs however, are not pleasing my neighbors... ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Sl8sh on February 05, 2010, 04:35:09 am
My vocal range is naturally close to three octaves.  I just don't sing in front of people.  I can sing on key and on tune, it's just not natural for me to sing in front of people.  I prefer playing, there are no words and you can say so much more with out words. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: strapp75 on February 05, 2010, 09:39:46 am
Slashette,

Would you sing a song and record it for us? We'd like to hear you!

;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on February 05, 2010, 03:02:46 pm
Slashette,

Would sing and a song and record it for us? We'd like to hear you.

;)
That would be excellent!  Even just to see a pic of here in the Show yourself thread!

Hell no one told me how hard arpeggios were!  I want to play them fast and when I do they should like xx--xx!  I know, I know just slow down, play them perfectly then increase the speed.  It's just trying to get the brain in a different thinking pattern.  They are hard suckers to play but it's all a part of the process!  I dreamt all night long of playing them but in my dreams I was so good and played everything perfectly with no mistakes.  I kid you not!  When I woke up reality took it's toll!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: schect on February 05, 2010, 04:09:21 pm
Just started Jonny Lang's 'Still Wonder'. Odd rhythm, difficult chords, and killer solo. This could take a while!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 05, 2010, 04:18:39 pm
  I've decided to take on flamenco strumming, I find it very fluid, and gives very interesting sounds.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 05, 2010, 04:24:11 pm
Is it that rasgueado technique or something else? If so, I really like that technique for as far I know, understand and use it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on February 05, 2010, 06:11:21 pm
well then --- you'll really like this particular vid showing how mark knoopfler uses the techniques

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7pHwTgOvP4
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on February 06, 2010, 12:53:52 am
I've been working on some triplet riffing. Kind of a gallop type thing, working on chord progressions in the key of E, kind of going for a Randy Rhodesish type sound
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 06, 2010, 06:26:50 pm
From Katie's Window.
:P
Terribly inconvenient to not have the song to listen to. xD
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 06, 2010, 06:50:59 pm
Is it that rasgueado technique or something else? If so, I really like that technique for as far I know, understand and use it.
  Yep, that's the one. :)
From Katie's Window.
:P
Terribly inconvenient to not have the song to listen to. xD
  You can find a demo of it at Justin's MySpace. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 06, 2010, 07:37:26 pm
I was listening to Justin's Maton Court Jester demonstration. :P But he's playing it a semitone lower there so that's not so convenient. :P Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Linsen on February 07, 2010, 01:29:51 pm
As some know, I recently got my first electric. So far I've only been messing around a little trying my hands on a couple of songs like 'I love Rock'n Roll' or 'Island in the Sun' and 'Say it Ain't so' by Weezer. Especially the latter is so way over my head, that it seems like it'll take months to even get the intro down somewhat satisfactorily. I also started on the solo, of which the first part sounded at least recognizeable relatively soon. But not more.

So, today I decided to give the Blues Lead Guitar Series a shot, even though I'm not really a fan of the Blues. But I thought it may help with my electric guitar skills in general. After having a quick look at the first lessons I jumped right in and started on the first five licks. And around half an hour later I was improvising over the backing track using first only the 1st lick, then the 1st and 2nd lick and then 1st, 2nd and 3rd lick - all the while having extraordinary fun. I'm glad I tried despite my dislike for the Blues. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on February 07, 2010, 03:12:04 pm
@ linsen

you're right - it'll help in so many ways ... and fun too  :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on February 08, 2010, 11:31:16 pm
As some know, I recently got my first electric. So far I've only been messing around a little trying my hands on a couple of songs like 'I love Rock'n Roll' or 'Island in the Sun' and 'Say it Ain't so' by Weezer. Especially the latter is so way over my head, that it seems like it'll take months to even get the intro down somewhat satisfactorily. I also started on the solo, of which the first part sounded at least recognizeable relatively soon. But not more.

So, today I decided to give the Blues Lead Guitar Series a shot, even though I'm not really a fan of the Blues. But I thought it may help with my electric guitar skills in general. After having a quick look at the first lessons I jumped right in and started on the first five licks. And around half an hour later I was improvising over the backing track using first only the 1st lick, then the 1st and 2nd lick and then 1st, 2nd and 3rd lick - all the while having extraordinary fun. I'm glad I tried despite my dislike for the Blues. :)

Music is music. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on February 09, 2010, 08:50:43 am
Trying to learn Tommy Emmanuels arrangement of Day Tripper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYzajpeAWuA). Never put so much effort into learning 1 piece before, so hard!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on February 09, 2010, 09:15:24 am
That is one of my favourite Tommy pieces.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on February 13, 2010, 05:15:27 am
Learning a few really cool licks using the E minor pentatonic scale.  My teacher wrote these out for me a while ago and every once in a while I start at the beginning of my lessons just to refresh myself and found these little gems.  I think we(me and my teacher) forgot about these.  I can hardly wait to go to my lesson on Tuesday and play this for him.  I'm aiming for perfection but prolly will screw it right up so it's unrecognizable. I just worry myself to death.  I'm my own worst enemy!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 13, 2010, 12:17:41 pm
I'm halfway there! :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on February 13, 2010, 05:57:49 pm
I'm halfway there! :D

Hey Cue 1/2 way to WHERE?

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 13, 2010, 07:46:34 pm
From Katie's Window. :P
I'm just about to start learning the solo, but I think I'd better wait until the CD is out.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 14, 2010, 03:27:48 pm
  Sorting out my clawhammer, I'm having a bit of trouble putting my pinky and ring fingers just right next to the bridge. Thing I'm gonna try putting just in front of the bridge pickup. Also, starting to play around with "So Far Away". Listening to it over, and over again, I realise that the tone on it is pretty special. It sounds like a synth, but I'm not quite sure... ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mrodgers on February 14, 2010, 04:55:33 pm
Haven't posted in here yet...

I'm learning Shine on You Crazy Diamond on my electric Christmas present.  I already play around with it on the acoustic.

I was going through Comfortably Numb, but switched it up.  I'll switch back and forth.  Learning is tough because I don't have much time and anything I have printed out in TAB, I have no where to lay it down to look at it other than the floor.  Need to get me some kind of music stand or something.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on February 15, 2010, 05:51:59 am
Hey Mrodgers welcome!  I too got me an electric last X-mas.  It's just too much fun. 

Well tonight I had a party by myself.  I was learning some AC/DC riffs and I think I made the poor dog deaf.  I just cranked up the volume and a way I went.  I was set in my ways about learning Back in Black but I found out a few different and easier ways(for now) on how to play this song.  What a blast.  I'm still so madly and passionately in love with my guitar and it's almost been a year now.  I so knew I wouldn't never give it up or get so pissed off at it and throw it in a corner only to collect dust.  Things just keep on getting better.  There's always something else to learn.  It's never boring!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on February 15, 2010, 08:57:09 am
I too got me an electric last X-mas.  It's just too much fun. 

Good to hear your having fun. I was having a blast on my electric yesterday, practicing some blues licks to a long backing track, however all of the string bending sort of ripped up my calluses now have a couple of very raw finger tips!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 15, 2010, 04:01:24 pm
The left and right solo from You Belong With Me. X)

You can start laughing now. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on February 15, 2010, 05:06:48 pm
The left and right solo from You Belong With Me. X)
You can start laughing now. :P
  There's a solo in there? I gotta listen to it again... ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 15, 2010, 06:22:36 pm
Yes, there's an easy one on the right and a bit less easy one on the left, just before the bridge ("Ooh, I remember you driving to my house in the middle of the night..."). I'm now learning both to use in my remix.
Though my remix is set to 6 BPM quicker than the original, so I have to play them even quicker than they are in the original. :P

I swear I'm gonna kill myself if I can't play From Katie's Window by the end of the week!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on February 18, 2010, 05:50:01 pm
Quote from: Cue Zephyr link=topic=17315.msg144912#msg144912


I swear I'm gonna kill myself if I can't play From Katie's Window by the end of the week!
[/quote

Hey I have been playing and perfecting Black Sabbath's Paranoid song for like almost 5 months and your going to kill yourself by the end of the week if you can't play the above song.  Hey cut yourself some slack my friends!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 18, 2010, 08:59:53 pm
Hey, no sweat, I have memorized it from front to back. I haven't said anything about playing it perfectly have I? :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on February 18, 2010, 11:05:31 pm
Paranoid is a lot of fun. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 19, 2010, 12:45:55 am
Jeez, is there any easy way of getting into lap tapping Erik Mongrain kind of playing guitar..? :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Xaromir on February 19, 2010, 03:11:53 pm
Maybe i post some bars in my rc at some point.

Done. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: strapp75 on February 19, 2010, 03:14:31 pm
I'm still working on Layla (final solo) then i'll learn "tears in Heaven" and i'll try to find something i can play on my electric guitar.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 23, 2010, 03:10:19 pm
Michael Hedges - Ritual Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPB-ShG_UWY)
It looks so easy, it so isn't! :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on February 24, 2010, 02:06:18 am
Chord inversions from my lesson tonight.  I'm up to my ying yang with the theory stuff.  I think I have to just schedule two theory nights a week and NO playing allowed!(boo hoo, self restraint!!)  The stuff my teacher wants me to know and the other stuff that I want to learn.  My notebooks are getting crammed with stuff.  I just don't know how the hell I'm going to remember all of this. 

Just learning my AC/DC licks off of a cool CD my son bought me for X-mas.  My talent show is fast approaching too so I need to outshine everyone else( sorry but I just have to kick some ass, I'm so competitive) and I want to win first place which is $100. 

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sanied on February 24, 2010, 10:58:31 am
Started working on "the Dance", Garth Brooks version.

Been working on some transcriptions lately, and it seems to be paying off, got the inital chord sequence sorted out and the finger style picking within an hr, the intro and outro are also quite easy.

i think i broke through a self imposed glass-ceiling this past few weeks, making really good progress in all aspects of playing that i am focusing on.

Finally nailed Chet Atkins version of "Vincent"
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on February 24, 2010, 06:19:41 pm
I Will See You Again by Andy McKee. This should be easy enough...
Oh, and screw transcribing, I can't transcribe songs like these. :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on February 24, 2010, 11:12:16 pm
Learning Cat Scratch Fever, by the Nuge.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on February 26, 2010, 04:31:56 pm
Led zeppelin - Stairway to heaven

A bit of an challenge, but me likes it!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on February 26, 2010, 11:29:09 pm
Led zeppelin - Stairway to heaven

A bit of an challenge, but me likes it!

:O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O:O :O:O :O :O :O :O
Learn it well, it's a fun song, but not one I would play for people. That's almost sacreligious. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 02, 2010, 09:43:14 pm
Michael Hedges - Ritual Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPB-ShG_UWY)
It looks so easy, it so isn't! :P
This is giving me more pain than I had expected. Appears that the tutorial I had been following was just all wrong and that I rule. Haha.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on March 02, 2010, 10:43:00 pm
Rude Mood by SRV. Tough one, just have to keep telling myself to go slow and learn a little piece at a time.

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on March 03, 2010, 06:23:28 pm
Back in Black solo.  It sounds easy but OMG it's NOT!  My teacher and I are going through this step by step.  Angus never played it the same way twice.  Always improvising!  So I'm using tabs just as a guide along with what I hear.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 03, 2010, 06:46:26 pm
I'm using tabs just as a guide along with what I hear.

Lnk
That does seem to work the best in many cases indeed.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: lorezolutions on March 03, 2010, 10:14:58 pm
Currently working on "The man who sold the world" by David Bowie, "Message in a bottle" by The Police and "I Feel Fine" by The Beatles
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on March 03, 2010, 10:22:44 pm
Currently working on "The man who sold the world" by David Bowie, "Message in a bottle" by The Police and "I Feel Fine" by The Beatles

That's a great Bowie song. You ever listen to the Nirvana cover on the Live and Unplugged in New York?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on March 04, 2010, 01:38:07 pm
  The talent show auditions are coming up, and I'm really starting to get hang of the rasgueado technique in Sultans of Swing, and the correct movement of my clawhammer when playing Money for Nothing.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: lorezolutions on March 04, 2010, 02:23:06 pm
Currently working on "The man who sold the world" by David Bowie, "Message in a bottle" by The Police and "I Feel Fine" by The Beatles

That's a great Bowie song. You ever listen to the Nirvana cover on the Live and Unplugged in New York?

Yeah its pretty good also. Intestesting song with different time changes, riffs, etc and really fun to play.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 04, 2010, 02:51:37 pm
The name Bowie carries something annoying, and it will always do...
What is it?
My ex used to be Bowie-obsessed juzt like I am with Swifty :D.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Dan Graves on March 04, 2010, 03:11:22 pm
Well, not learning anything on guitar, but i'm working out a transcription of the piano tune that's at the end of Pennywise's Bro Hymn Tribute on their Full Circle album.
It originally came from the movie "Poison Ivy" if i remember correctly.
Doing ok with it, but it's not as easy as i'd hoped.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 06, 2010, 04:30:03 pm
For some reason I don't play as much when my guitar is in standard tuning. xD
Learning Catching the Light by Antoine Dufour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAfCcyWUIwI)
Wish I was good enough to transcribe this, but I'm using Guitar Pro tabs instead...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Loco on March 06, 2010, 09:31:35 pm
Wish I was good enough to transcribe this, but I'm using Guitar Pro tabs instead...

have you at least tried? you can see his fretting hand during the whole song, so that's a big help...

on the other hand, i think i would use the tab too, because i would be too lazy to follow every note he plays and try to transcribe it :P

and i like his playing btw :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 06, 2010, 10:43:28 pm
I always miss out on the basic fingering positions, I use the video to observe the movements and fingerings and I rely on my ears to pick out the sublte details.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on March 07, 2010, 12:18:04 pm
Just 'finished' Bowie: Space Oddity (by finished I mean I can play it from start to end to a steady beat, not that every chord is perfect with all notes ringing out and no rattle from the frets. Still some of that).
Anyway, that one has quite a few bar chords, but the chord changes are not so quick, so now I'm looking at something a little more up-tempo.
Prince: Raspberry Beret maybe? Easy enough chords, but faster changes.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Da_Soulman on March 07, 2010, 12:36:21 pm
Been workin on learning "Somewhere My Love" tremolo picking style... definately a work in progress... was working on it yesterday at the beach on my acoustic... and outside of my crappy guitar makin me wish I was deaf, the folks sitting around me enjoyed what sections I had figured out so far anyways  :o
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: freigeist on March 07, 2010, 01:07:31 pm
Working on my bar chords with sultans of swing (strumming part with western guitar)...veryvery nice song. (next song: layla..but missing the tab ..;) )
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on March 07, 2010, 01:26:04 pm
On the beach indeed! Here's a picture of what Norway looks like at the moment.
(They're having a go at getting the mountain passes open before easter):
(http://www.aftenbladet.no/dynamic/00336/Risa_336668c.jpg)

Not that bad in my driveway, but still complete ice/snow cover without a hint of spring.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on March 07, 2010, 01:35:08 pm
@gandsfjord: haha, awesome, where is that? Im in Bergen now, its ALOT of snow here too, not as much as that pic, but very much for Bergen!  :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on March 07, 2010, 02:05:47 pm
Hi Marcus. It's in Sirdal - if you want to go from Stavanger over to Setesdal without talking the coastal road (E39), you go over Sirdal / Suleskard.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 10, 2010, 12:29:00 am
This song totally gets to me, I want to learn it but I don't know where to start... I know the tuning but nothing more...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yJncIVcBz8
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on March 11, 2010, 12:12:12 am
Classical Gas - Clapton (I know original is by Mason Williams, and I don't think there's much difference, but thats the one my guitar teacher knows)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on March 11, 2010, 02:24:48 am
I'm learning arpeggios.  So far GM7, Am7, and CM7.  Now I'm trying to learn alternate picking doing the previous mentioned.  Still working on and perfecting the Back in Black solo.  It sounds so easy but it ain't!  I have my work cut out for me!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on March 11, 2010, 06:52:33 am
Almost Cut My Hair - CSN

Just gettin in the mood for the gig in July  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on March 11, 2010, 06:31:36 pm
Wishbone that's a classic by Crosby, Stills and Nash but wasn't Neil in there too?

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on March 11, 2010, 11:02:15 pm
gah, I have to learn the song afterlife by avenged sevenfold!  :o The solo is gonna kill me. And I need to play it before next friday! I have no idea how im gonna pull this off...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on March 12, 2010, 07:22:26 am
LnK-

Yeah you're right, there. Crosby wrote the bugger (completely smashed as he was at the time), but the line up was CSNY for 'Deja Vu'. i tend to forget the particulars and, knowing that, it always reminds me of an interview that CSN did with Q music magazine years back. The interviewer made the mistake of referring to them as a 'group'. They protested that label; they'd always thought of themselves as a 'collective' of musicians who get together from time to time (read: a lot) to make music and play gigs. They didn't like the notion that they were somehow less a sum of their equal parts, each part bringing together something unique.

It was somehow the one concept that made the greatest sense about them. If you look at their work over the years, it pretty much plays out. There have been times when Crosby and Nash, or Stills and Nash, or any combination of the three, have wandered off and done their own thing; but there were never any headlines proclaiming that CSN had 'split'. Generally owing to the fact that they were never together as a 'group' in that sense.

I haven't got a link for it right away, but if you get time to look check out the live cover by Gov't Mule with Davy Knowles of Back Door Slam. It's worth having a listen, trust me :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: PJMCM on March 12, 2010, 07:37:28 am
Almost Cut My Hair - CSN

Just gettin in the mood for the gig in July  ;D

What gig? have I missed something here? Do tell.....

If you're playing, though, I'd wait until nearer the time before getting the hair-cut. It'll only grow back in again before July comes along :D

Peter
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on March 12, 2010, 12:54:13 pm
LOL...... CSN are gigging Liverpool Echo Arena in July, mate. Got my tickets 3 minutes and 42 seconds exactly after they went on sale.

My last gig was a dive near Liverpool town centre, sometime back in '95/'96.....ish :)

Things went downhill after that..............

Possibly owing to the fact that the lead guitarist was a consummate tosser and it got to the point whereby I was going to wreck my axe on his noggin if I'd had to do another jam with him  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Sl8sh on March 12, 2010, 05:03:11 pm
Still working out of A Modern Method for Guitar, I'm writing out my favorite rock songs in Standard notation and in full score (except drumsets because I still can't figure out how to notate it) and I'm currently working on learning Driftaway by Motley Crue when John Corabi was singing. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on March 12, 2010, 06:12:08 pm
Got the intro and first fast bit of classical gas down, now the harder bits
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 12, 2010, 07:27:32 pm
Cool stuff! Started learning it months ago but never gotten around to finish it. Hope to hear a bit soon!

Gonna learn to change my strings with the PW string winder/cutter in a little bit! :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on March 12, 2010, 10:25:50 pm
mbarrett

good luck with classical gas

I taught myself this last year and it's on my youtube ... but far from perfect


btw

it is not and has never been recorded by Clapton

last paragraph here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Gas#History


3rd FAQ here
http://www.classicalgas.com/gasfaq.html

9th comment here:
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=6421

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 12, 2010, 10:39:55 pm
Btw, mbarrett, are you doing this by ear or are you learning it from somewhere? I might need your help if you don't mind. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on March 13, 2010, 01:26:20 am
Interesting close2u, I'm actually learning it from my guitar teacher.  I always wondered why I couldn't find Classical Gas by Clapton, now I know.  Cue I'd be happy to scan the tab for you if you want.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on March 13, 2010, 02:55:03 am
I'm currently learning Night Moves by Bob Seger and American Pie by Don Mclean. I'm going through an acoustic stage, I was working on some speed metal stuff but I kind of got turned off to that whole deal jamming with my friend Jesse, he didn't want to slow down and get it tight first. And constantly playing a gallop at full speed gets really effing boring. LOL
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: misterg on March 13, 2010, 10:29:39 am
Btw, mbarrett, are you doing this by ear or are you learning it from somewhere? I might need your help if you don't mind. ;)

As an aside - have you seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnAFXazFtaQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnAFXazFtaQ)

It's on my 'to-do' list, but not for a while yet :)

Andy
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on March 13, 2010, 10:42:33 am
misterg

that's the one I taught myself from

it's here if you want to view
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrClose2u#p/u/15/1SEC71EZKzQ

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: misterg on March 13, 2010, 12:03:07 pm
misterg

that's the one I taught myself from

it's here if you want to view
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrClose2u#p/u/15/1SEC71EZKzQ

 :)

Well it certainly did the job! Nice work - I've subscribed to your channel.

While I'm here, I'd like to say thanks to you for the comments and critique that you take the trouble to provide when people post videos, etc. of themselves. Always honest, always encouraging and always constructive. (I haven't posted anything yet, but one day... .... )

Anyway: "Cheers".

(Sorry for the OT, folks).

Andy
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 13, 2010, 03:41:49 pm
@ mbarrett:
That would be very nice of you. Take your time though, just see when you find the time.

I got back to From Katie's Window yesterday, after having successfully restrung my guitar with the lovely antique-looking but great sounding Dean Makrkleys.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: strapp75 on March 15, 2010, 10:36:55 am
Wonderful Tonight by Eric Clapton. Easy song to play but great to work some bluesy licks and arpeggios.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on March 15, 2010, 11:04:36 pm
Btw, mbarrett, are you doing this by ear or are you learning it from somewhere? I might need your help if you don't mind. ;)

As an aside - have you seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnAFXazFtaQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnAFXazFtaQ)

It's on my 'to-do' list, but not for a while yet :)

Andy
only reason I would say watch out there is that his timing is awful compared the original if he's mimicking it.  There are quite alot of pauses that you have to listen to the song to get.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 15, 2010, 11:12:52 pm
I can learn it now, I'm learning another song in standard tuning so I could do two at once.

No... that would be a bad idea...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sanied on March 17, 2010, 03:43:12 pm
was working on some garth brooks stuff,

but ya know, country music gets depressing, and i was losing the will to live


so im working on Classical Gas now

can anyone recommend a Camera so i can start to record and broadcast my stuff on youtube
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 17, 2010, 03:54:06 pm
Just to do something else, trying to figure out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yJncIVcBz8
I'm in for a long ride...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on March 18, 2010, 12:49:52 am
I'm learning something fairly easy but it's just a little hard to get it really clean and it's Day Tripper by the Beatles.  I learned this song in about and 1 1/2 hours.  The main riff I transcribed all by myself, it was so easy!  It's one of those tunes that keeps looping in my brain.  It's just so much fun!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on March 18, 2010, 04:46:02 am
I'm learning something fairly easy but it's just a little hard to get it really clean and it's Day Tripper by the Beatles.  I learned this song in about and 1 1/2 hours.  The main riff I transcribed all by myself, it was so easy!  It's one of those tunes that keeps looping in my brain.  It's just so much fun!

Licksnkicks

George Harrison was not a shabby guitarist.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on March 18, 2010, 05:22:58 am

George Harrison was not a shabby guitarist.

Defintely NOT!!  This song though was one of the easiest to transcribe because I could hear it verbatim whilst it was flipping over and over again in my brain.  Once you get the pattern of the main riff it becomes easy and hence the fun factor starts to kick in.   It's the solo while being very short that I have to really focus on.  All in all though one of the most fun songs I have learned to date.  I have to try another Beatles song.  Any suggestions????

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on March 18, 2010, 06:41:49 am
...  I have to try another Beatles song.  Any suggestions????

Licksnkicks

L 'n' k

I Want You

 :)









btw
that's a Beatles song suggestion ... not a proposition  ;)

good A minor / D minor pent workout for the most part
 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Dan Graves on March 18, 2010, 01:32:28 pm
Trying to work out this tune by Therapy? :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfbLR3TNs8g
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: rolling56 on March 18, 2010, 01:42:02 pm
I'm learning something fairly easy but it's just a little hard to get it really clean and it's Day Tripper by the Beatles.  I learned this song in about and 1 1/2 hours.  The main riff I transcribed all by myself, it was so easy!  It's one of those tunes that keeps looping in my brain.  It's just so much fun!

Licksnkicks

LnK the main riff for Pretty Woman > Roy Orbison is very similar to Day Tripper  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: schect on March 18, 2010, 03:04:27 pm
The riff for Honey Don't is also similar. If you want to challenge yourself a bit learn the solo to Let It Be. The rockabilly riff for I Feel Fine is also a hoot.

+1 on I Want You, It's really easy.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on March 18, 2010, 06:41:25 pm

L 'n' k

I Want You

 :)


btw
that's a Beatles song suggestion ... not a proposition  ;)

good A minor / D minor pent workout for the most part
 :)

Aw shucks Close2u I thought you  were getting serious ;)(A real big wink and a grin)

I know so many Beatles songs but I can't recall this one.  I probably know the tune though and not the song title.

Will give that and Pretty Woman(thanks Rolling56) a go through.  Thanks guys for the brilliant suggestions. 

Learning a song because I want to and NOT having to is making playing rather easy these days!  Some girls they want to have fun!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on March 18, 2010, 07:00:41 pm
Btw Rolling56 do you mean VH's version or Roy Orbison's version of Pretty Woman.

I just looked at the tabs for I want you and they go on forever.  I think I will concentrate on Pretty Woman.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: old-and-in-the-way on March 18, 2010, 07:14:56 pm
I know so many Beatles songs but I can't recall this one.  I probably know the tune though and not the song title.

The last song on side one of Abbey Road (listed as "I Want You (She's So Heavy)"). (I want you // I want you so bad // I want you-oo-oo-oo // I want you so ba-a-a-ad it's driving me mad // it's driving me mad ... )
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: rolling56 on March 18, 2010, 10:04:27 pm
Btw Rolling56 do you mean VH's version or Roy Orbison's version of Pretty Woman.

I just looked at the tabs for I want you and they go on forever.  I think I will concentrate on Pretty Woman.

Lnk

Well i was talking about Roy's but if you cut out all the fancy stuff Eddie is doing it's the same  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on March 18, 2010, 10:15:47 pm
Btw Rolling56 do you mean VH's version or Roy Orbison's version of Pretty Woman.

I just looked at the tabs for I want you and they go on forever.  I think I will concentrate on Pretty Woman.

Lnk

Well i was talking about Roy's but if you cut out all the fancy stuff Eddie is doing it's the same  ;)

I will check out the Roy Orbison version but I'm really wanting to play the Eddie version.  Maybe one day soon though.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on March 18, 2010, 11:57:05 pm
@CZ would you like me to PM you it in its entirety when I get it or in parts?  So far I have about 2 minutes.

@LnK try A Hard Days Night, got a beautiful opening chord and it's not too difficult with a nice sounding solo.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on March 19, 2010, 01:23:06 am
K, I'm doing the bends the few that there are in Day tripper and I find that the other strings are getting caught under my almost non existent nails.  What's wrong with this picture.  The other strings are ringing on the bend.  It's sounds so crap.

Lnk

mbarrett A Hard Days Night sounds good too.  I just find with all these great songs that I grew up with I'm singing to them too.  I sound like a dead cow but no one else can hear me and it's fun.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: old-and-in-the-way on March 19, 2010, 01:42:48 am
K, I'm doing the bends the few that there are in Day tripper and I find that the other strings are getting caught under my almost non existent nails.  What's wrong with this picture.  The other strings are ringing on the bend.  It's sounds so crap.

Sounds like you are bending by straightening your fingers to push against the string (which causes your fingers to flatten and raise your nails up away from the fretboard.  When you release the bend, your fingernails claw down against the strings that you pushed out of the way, snagging them,, and causing them to ring).

Well, that's what has caused the same thing to happen to me on occasion, at least.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 28, 2010, 05:10:52 pm
Learning Heartbeats by José Gonzalez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_4abCWw-w) now.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on March 28, 2010, 10:40:00 pm
I'm not bothering to learn them - but I recently purchased the chord charts to the rock-opera Jesus Christ Superstar and have been playing along to that.

The music is in all sorts of uncommon keys (for me) so it has been fun working out optimal fingering for chords I normally don't play and a real barre chord workout

It may have even inspired me to look into the C-shape barre as even using A & E there are some biggish jumps that have to be done very quickly.

Had the LP as a young tacker (still do) and recently downloaded the album from i-Toons - I'm not into religion of any kind, but I really dig this music.

Might even try transcribing some of the lead riffs.

B
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: ilpit89 on March 29, 2010, 01:40:30 am
mostly focused on page 99 and heart of life by john mayer right now
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 29, 2010, 02:11:25 pm
You're all so focused... I must be doing something wrong! :P

Instead of exploring alternate tunings, I'm exploring alternate chords!

So, simple progressions like these:
Em - C - G - D
Am - F - C - G
will turn into:
Em9 - Cadd9 - Gmaj7 - Dsus2
Am7 - Fmaj9 - Cadd11 - G6


Playing with the simple chords I found this cool melody in the top strings:
C (x32013) - Cadd11 (x32011) - C (x32010) - Cadd9 (x32030)
Am7 (x02213) - Amaddb13 (x02211) - Am (x02210) - Asus4 (x02230)
Fmaj7 (103210) - F (103211) - G7 (320031) - G6 (320030) - G6add11 (320010)

I obviously needed a chord dictionary to actually be able to denote what I'm doing. xD

This is so much fun! :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on March 31, 2010, 02:30:08 am
Learning Heavy Metal by Sammy Hagar.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: ilpit89 on April 01, 2010, 04:22:24 pm
just learned wind cries mary and manic depression off of justin's videos
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: plukey on April 01, 2010, 04:44:46 pm
just learned wind cries mary and manic depression off of justin's videos
+1 for that. Wind cries mary sounds great through my new tube amp! Have you had a try at a solo for manic yet? I've been attemting a pentatonic noodle but just can't seem to get anything to fit right. May be because it's 3:4...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: ilpit89 on April 01, 2010, 05:51:02 pm
yea know it feels very different if you've always been playing in 4/4. i guess the way it's just keep trying again and again counting 1-2-3 in your head!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on April 17, 2010, 03:17:21 pm
Sweet Home Alabama.  Not a terribly difficult song but nevertheless a challenge to get it to sound sweet.

Trying to refine the solo for Back in Black.  Not that easy.

and of course..............

Shoot to thrill.  It's not as hard as I assumed.  Gave Justins vid a look and decided to tackle it.  The solo I'm not quite sure about.  Isn't that how we learn though by tackling things a little bit bigger than our given talents. 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on April 17, 2010, 03:38:15 pm
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Isn't that how we learn though by tackling things a little bit bigger than our given talents. 

Very true. Pushing ourselves beyond our perceived limits. Good luck with the STT lead. You entering the contest?

Presently working on Your Choice.

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on April 17, 2010, 04:05:26 pm
Ebon Coast for a week now.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on April 17, 2010, 04:34:47 pm
You entering the contest?

I would like to but I think I lack the confidence I need!  My teacher wants to Youboob me playing Back in Black in about another 2 months(enuff time to try and perfect the solo) and I can't think about that.  It just makes me nervous.  I guess I'm just thinking negativily. Playing in front of people as opposed to the whole world.  **drums fingers nervously on the desk top**

Quark, you entering?

I wonder if Mr Close2u is entering?

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on April 17, 2010, 05:55:53 pm
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Quark, you entering?

I am learning the song now. After that I will determine if the next bridge can or should be crossed  :).

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on April 17, 2010, 07:03:55 pm
I'm shaping the new saddle for my Taylor!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on April 17, 2010, 09:07:48 pm
Actually Shoot to thrill is relatively easy it's just the damned solo and for the contest Justin wants us to improvise.

This tune is addictive. I've been practicing this all day long.   The really loud volume sounds so cool and makes the song.  Thank god my family is empathic!  It's such a great little tune to play to and put your dancing shoes on to. 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on April 17, 2010, 09:45:39 pm
Todays learning process has involved 'Shape of My Heart' by Sting, 'Haven't We Lost Enough' by CSN and 'I Don't Want to Talk About It' by Rod Stewart...... all on acoustic.....

I did a little on electric for fun and came up with this realisation:You can never have too many patch leads.

I got onto something I liked and thought it needed a little bit of pimp-funk wah........... No bloody patch leads or even guitar leads 'cos I've lent my spares to my brother so he can do some recording.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on April 17, 2010, 09:59:05 pm
Sweet Home Alabama.  Not a terribly difficult song but nevertheless a challenge to get it to sound sweet.

Trying to refine the solo for Back in Black.  Not that easy.

and of course..............

Shoot to thrill.  It's not as hard as I assumed.  Gave Justins vid a look and decided to tackle it.  The solo I'm not quite sure about.  Isn't that how we learn though by tackling things a little bit bigger than our given talents. 

Lnk
If you learn the second Sweet Home solo you won't be thinking it's that easy...the rest of it is just fun to play, it's one of my favourite songs to play.

@Cue - would've thought you'd prefer http://www.youtube.com/user/hchsknights08#p/u/13/bkWdGUG3w8Y
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on April 17, 2010, 10:44:47 pm
So, I dropped in the new saddle after 4 hours of persistent sanding. Big whoop.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on April 20, 2010, 07:38:32 pm
Sweet Home Alabama.  Not a terribly difficult song but nevertheless a challenge to get it to sound sweet.

Trying to refine the solo for Back in Black.  Not that easy.

and of course..............

Shoot to thrill.  It's not as hard as I assumed.  Gave Justins vid a look and decided to tackle it.  The solo I'm not quite sure about.  Isn't that how we learn though by tackling things a little bit bigger than our given talents. 

Lnk
If you learn the second Sweet Home solo you won't be thinking it's that easy...the rest of it is just fun to play, it's one of my favourite songs to play

Nope definitely not easy!

Some things are easy but you run into challenges and that's what makes guitar playing exciting for me at least!! 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: lorezolutions on April 21, 2010, 02:09:55 pm
working on Radioheads Street Spirit (Fade Away)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on April 21, 2010, 05:13:16 pm
  Got Shoot to Thrill ready to Kill(I know it's lame xD), but I can't enter the competition. I'm not really quite sure what to do no, I'm so bored. I think I'll sign out and practice... ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on April 24, 2010, 08:13:49 am
Sweet Home Alabama.  Not a terribly difficult song but nevertheless a challenge to get it to sound sweet.

Trying to refine the solo for Back in Black.  Not that easy.
Exactly what I'm doing too! That's some coincidence.
Trying to get the right 'bounciness' in the Sweet Home Alabama. That's a requirement if it is to sound right.

And - another thing I've been thinking about on the subject of record companies / music publishers (are they the same ?) wanting payment for use of TABS (and soon songs ?): Whenever I start learning a new song, I always pop over to iTunes and buy an album with that song, unless I already bought it of course. Latest example is "Lynyrd Skynyrd - Rock Legends". I already owned "Back in Black".
I buy the album, not just the song I want to learn, because I want to get a better feel for the music.

So the promotion of a song through an instruction video indirectly leads to cash flow for the record companies.
(I may be mistaken, but I think most record companies love cash flow more than they love music).

This is hard to measure, but if this could be proven it might lead to a relief for some of the music websites that are currently under pressure form the music industry?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on April 26, 2010, 05:46:06 pm
Gandsfjord, do you need the tabs for Back in Black.  I have 2 different ones the only difference being a slight variation in the solo.

Let me know if you need them!

Lickskicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on May 07, 2010, 04:39:56 pm
Joe Satriani's Tears in the rain.

Way out of my skills, but Im not giving up! must learn at least half of it.  :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on May 07, 2010, 05:37:56 pm
Done learning 'Ebon Coast' as well as 'You and I'.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on May 07, 2010, 08:30:50 pm
Trying Texas Flood again. Hopefully I don't give up on this again. More discipline darn it!

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on May 08, 2010, 06:42:28 am
Excellent song by the way.

Do you play with the picking hand closed like fist or with your middle, ring an and baby pinky pointing downwards.  I play like the latter but is this wrong , I'm sure there are disadvantages to it.  I have been playing like this for a year now.  I don't see the great ones every play like this.  I'm doing it wrong am I?  Or is it whatever is comfortable for each individual.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on May 08, 2010, 12:55:19 pm
I feel my hand to be a tad more relaxed when picking with my hand opened up like you described. But then again I'm not a true pick-player and I tend to hybrid-pick when I have to skip strings.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on May 08, 2010, 01:35:24 pm
Just got a jack for my headphones so now if I'm up at 4 in the am I can play and not wake up a soul.  I should of bought this a long time ago but didn't.

Anyhow........... Justin did a lesson on new Angus Young licks and it's just what I needed.  A lot of stuff from AC/DC orginates from the blues.  This I did not know.  This makes total sense though!

http://www.justinguitar.com/en/RO-101-AngusYoungLicks.php

check this lesson out for all of those who wanna rock!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on May 08, 2010, 01:57:46 pm
Yeah, headphones. I play acoustic... lol. xD
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: rolling56 on May 08, 2010, 02:30:12 pm
Just got a jack for my headphones so now if I'm up at 4 in the am I can play and not wake up a soul.  I should of bought this a long time ago but didn't.

Anyhow........... Justin did a lesson on new Angus Young licks and it's just what I needed.  A lot of stuff from AC/DC orginates from the blues.  This I did not know.  This makes total sense though!

http://www.justinguitar.com/en/RO-101-AngusYoungLicks.php

check this lesson out for all of those who wanna rock!

Licksnkicks

Your amp has a jack......you mean an adapter?  8)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on May 09, 2010, 07:32:45 pm
I'm learning Thomann's (yes the shop in Germany) acoustic guitar 'Country' jingle. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on May 12, 2010, 02:23:08 am

Your amp has a jack......you mean an adapter?  8)

Ya that's what I meant.

So had my lesson tonight and my teacher has been sick for the last couple of weeks which meant learning on my own.  I'm fine with that.  When I played all my new stuff for him he was impressed with how much I have learned on my own but he says that I'm overwhelming myself trying to learn to much and play like I have been playing for 30 years.  I have to slow down and go for the quality factor of what I'm playing and not the quantity.  I guess being considered new still he says that's what he encounters with most of his new to guitar students.  They want to be Angus, Joe, or Eddie right off the bat.  So now he has me concentrating for the whole week on the 3 things only!  It won't stop my brain from being in overdrive though.  I think to myself when I look at vids on youboob why oh why can't I play like that, even half as good. Have to take it one lick at a time.  I have to Shoot to thrill on the back burner for awhile as well as  a lot of other things.  It sucks but I have to listen to the voice of experience and not chomp at the bit quite as much.

lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on May 12, 2010, 06:46:01 am
what are the 3 things lnk?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on May 13, 2010, 03:25:34 pm
what are the 3 things lnk?

The 3 things are:

1.  Pentatonic scales first position. Make up some licks and play the ones I already know slowly and methodically with my metronome.

2.  Practice "Bang your head"  by Quiet Riot again slowly and meticuously.  Very easy song to play, it's just trying to make it sound "perfect"!

3.  I made up a song in D minor but the verse, chorus, intro all blend together and can't be told a part.  Each part is just not distinct enuff.  The only part I got right and was noticeable was the outro. 

This is all good but I have to really control myself from playing other stuff and just focus.  Like when everyone is out of the house I just want to juice the amp up and play some really loud Angus licks without the headphones on and let all hell break loose.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Sl8sh on May 13, 2010, 04:29:25 pm
Hey guys

Okay, first I feel really stupid for posting the "I'm Back" column.....I was and then predictably, college has been busy.

Anyway, I've been learning Back From Cali off of Slash's new solo album.  I bought the standard issue without realizing there were bonus tracks.  However, I had to do research to figure out what album released in what country would have the bonus tracks I was looking for.  So I had to order the European bonus edition.  Can't wait to get it. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on May 13, 2010, 06:48:19 pm
Hey Missy!  How u doing?  I was wondering when u were coming back.

I know though you were busy with college and stuff. 

Glad your back and your learning some new stuff I see!  Good on ya!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Sl8sh on May 14, 2010, 04:42:21 pm
I'm drained with homework.  Been having a tough time trying to get any kind of practice in on any of my instruments.  When I can play, it's been a escape from thinking about homework.  How are you doing?

 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on May 14, 2010, 05:09:09 pm
trying to improv a solo for the end of shoot to thrill

it's tough to improv rock a solo
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on May 15, 2010, 07:20:30 am
Slayer - Dead skin mask
This is some awesome song! :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on May 15, 2010, 11:54:42 am
Thinking of learning Stay Close To Me by Tommy Emmanuel...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on May 16, 2010, 06:31:20 pm
I'm drained with homework.  Been having a tough time trying to get any kind of practice in on any of my instruments.  When I can play, it's been a escape from thinking about homework.  How are you doing?

 

I'm doing fine!  I did get a  new guitar.  My Parker Nitefly and I'm taking pics of it today and will get it on the forum.  It's quite girly looking with it's beautiful pearl pickguard.

Hey are you still trying to get a band together?  I don't know how you can squeeze so much into a 24 hr time period Slash.  You must be exhausted!
Your energy levels are amazing.  Don't know how you do it!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on May 16, 2010, 06:34:38 pm
trying to improv a solo for the end of shoot to thrill

it's tough to improv rock a solo

I can't imagine you having a tough time with anything!  You have so much skill, amazing technique and oodles of experience.  I know cuz I have been to your Youboob channel to watch you several times for some inspiration.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on May 16, 2010, 08:45:19 pm
thanks lnk - it's good to have some positive vibes flow towards one


seriously though - I've only been playing scales / lead / solos since Jan 2009 ... the solos you like that I have played on youtube have been learned pretty much rote fashion then played over and over until they're passable enough to record ...
I am working on blues improv ... and my old fingers do their best work at slow shuffle speeds ... so a fast rock solo (albeit blues drenched) in a 4/4 thumping song is not so easy -

I can play all the rhythm parts pretty good I reckon - gotta nail those last few bars of mega-histrionic guitar hero stuff
 :)

I've got some holiday coming up soon so I hope to get a recording done then ...


btw

I have posted a new vid today ... somethin I started learning a while back and it's been on the back burner since


btw (again)

you must, you simply must, post something - anything - of you playing your new guitar

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on May 16, 2010, 09:46:30 pm
[quote author=close2u link=topic=17315.msg158752#msg158752 date=12740391
btw

I have posted a new vid today ... somethin I started learning a while back nad it's been on the back burner since


btw (again)

you must, you simply must, post something - anything - of you playing your new guitar

 :)
[/quote]

I will but I'm so nervous!  I know there is a first time for everthing!

I did come up with all by myself some real cool riffs in the A minor pentatonic so maybe I will just record a bunch of riffs.  I feel really good playing those but it's just getting my fingers to function properly knowing that the whole world will be listening to me. 

Will check out your new vid!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on May 17, 2010, 07:53:33 am
Thinking about Opeth's Hope leaves.
It just has nasty stretch that feels... very nasty!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: strapp75 on May 17, 2010, 02:31:16 pm
"Live forever" and "Stand bye me" by Oasis (acoustic versions).

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: plukey on May 17, 2010, 03:25:47 pm
Slayer - Dead skin mask
This is some awesome song! :)
Nice, one of my favourites from my 'thrash and only thrash' years!!
I'm currently learning 'You Shook Me All Night Long', halfway through transcribing the solo. I thought I might as well carry on with DC, seeing as how I enjoyed shoot to thrill so much.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on May 19, 2010, 07:06:29 pm
Learning Memories Of The Future by Antoine Dufour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRvRBQTqUKI) now.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on May 20, 2010, 01:23:05 am
Learning Memories Of The Future by Antoine Dufour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRvRBQTqUKI) now.

Beautiful choice Cue but that intricate picking and fretting.  Way beyond me.  When you get 'er done yu have to post a vid to watch or an audio. 

Still diddling around with the pentatonic scales!  Lots of fun!  Such a cool scale to make up some rockin' riffs with!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on May 21, 2010, 02:38:47 am
A couple of my flat mates are into playing guitar and making music so we are trying to start a band  ;D So im practising my soloing and improv, it is so much fun making your own songs, once we get decent recording gear ill post up a song we've made.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mrodgers on May 21, 2010, 02:58:29 am
More Pink Floyd for me.  I did SOYCD and my kids (girls age 9 and 6) both love Money.  So, I'm on to Money.  Haven't had much time lately though.  Been too tired from work.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mattinoz on May 21, 2010, 06:44:52 am
Just starting to learn Fire & Rain by James Taylor.
Just about got the intro down.
Not really a James Taylor fan but I'm finding it a really good song to play around with.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on May 21, 2010, 01:07:23 pm
After I've finished Memories of the Future I want to learn another song, but which one...
Don Ross - No Goodbyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg0EbxTHUHw)
or
Craig d'Andrea - Girl's Longer Hair (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulKvtk4cyMQ)
or
Craig d'Andrea - In with the Purple and Out with the Blue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_R60vFZzGI)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 02, 2010, 11:29:46 am
Just trying to practice "perfect".  My teacher has said that  I know quite a bit song wise but he wants me to breaks things down into smaller parts and play until it is perfected.  Even if it means playing something over 100 times.  He says I'm a certain stage in my playing.  Knowing a lot but not playing it precisely. 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 02, 2010, 12:59:48 pm
chord changes, but a little bit different then the one minute changes (i do those too)

I start a chord, lets say G, and I go to every different chord i know so far, then I do the same with A, E, .. and everything I know till now (stage 5)

Takes a bit long, but I love doing it and i see a lot of improvement. It's a good way of picking up chord changes I can't do very well, the latest one was: G to Dm
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 02, 2010, 01:47:07 pm
Just trying to practice "perfect".  My teacher has said that  I know quite a bit song wise but he wants me to breaks things down into smaller parts and play until it is perfected.  Even if it means playing something over 100 times.  He says I'm a certain stage in my playing.  Knowing a lot but not playing it precisely. 

Lnk


Cool! That's where I am now too. But instead of breaking it down I just play a 5 min song like 2-5 times every one or two hours. Most importantly I need to be able to hide my mistakes, just to keep on playing without losing the rhythm or the beat. I know, I shouldn't be making mistakes at all, but when there's a mic, a camera or more people near, I always tend to mess up.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 02, 2010, 04:12:06 pm
Why does it need to be 'perfect'?

Some say Keith richards is a sloppy guitar player, but the Rolling stones are known to give one hell of a show people go excited about.

And okay, Rolling stones are big ass. But then again, personally I rather see a show from a band where the vibe is very good, and they show a lot of energy with maybe some small mistakes here and there.. then a band that plays clean as hell.. but doens't know how to bring over a good vibe

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 03, 2010, 02:58:09 pm
Okay maybe not perfection but excellence!  I have a problem in that I want to run before I can walk.  I would love to rip off a rocking tune without regard for quality but that's not the way it works.  As you know there are many technical aspects to making a song sound great and the faster you play obviously for a beginner like me the more mistakes I make and thus the song would sound like pure unadulterated crap. Technical abilites suffer along the way.  As for the emotional depth of the song I have no problem with that.  One of my personal qualities is that of being anal and I get very discouraged and upset if things are not perfect so I'm following my teachers advice.  He has been playing for 17 years, has a band, has a cd out and is absolutely amazing and that is how in very beginning of his career he learned to play the way he does.  Tried and proven way to learn. 

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Sl8sh on June 03, 2010, 04:39:12 pm
I have the same problem licks does, at least when it comes to playing faster.  No matter how much time I spend working on my legato skills, I still don't have it down.  I conceptually understand the idea and technique and I think "oh, this is gonna be easy" and then I go and try it and I suck big time.  If I can play something slowly perfectly, then my brain thinks I can play it perfectly at tempo and that's not always the case. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on June 03, 2010, 05:38:54 pm
@sl8sh: just keep pracicing it!  :) From my experience it goes in bumps....Ive been stuck at lets say 120 bpm for three weeks, and then suddenly I can do 130! and then after two weeks I can do 135, and so on. Sometimes it seems i get slower too  :P The main thing is just to keep practicing, but also practice playing slow stuff. After I had really focused on speed for some weeks I found it very difficult to play good slowly. It was like my mind was set on playing 100 notes per second no matter what, so I sounded horrible over slow blues-tracks.  :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 03, 2010, 09:43:31 pm
Okay maybe not perfection but excellence!  I have a problem in that I want to run before I can walk.  I would love to rip off a rocking tune without regard for quality but that's not the way it works.  As you know there are many technical aspects to making a song sound great and the faster you play obviously for a beginner like me the more mistakes I make and thus the song would sound like pure unadulterated crap. Technical abilites suffer along the way.  As for the emotional depth of the song I have no problem with that.  One of my personal qualities is that of being anal and I get very discouraged and upset if things are not perfect so I'm following my teachers advice.  He has been playing for 17 years, has a band, has a cd out and is absolutely amazing and that is how in very beginning of his career he learned to play the way he does.  Tried and proven way to learn.  

Licksnkicks

I do know how songs are made, yes, and I see how right you are. When we first started recording at the age of 14 we made very bad music, but friends loved it, we loved it too, we had nobody to tell us at that point what could be better and we had too find out the hard way, trough expierence, thats all. But at some point you are just not satisfied anymore with how the song sounds when it finished, and you are going to push your limits to make it as perfect as you can get.

I see how that translates to playing the guitar excellent. But what I know about making songs is that a song is never really perfect, there are always little flawns in it which actually makes the song what it is at times, not always, but sometimes it has its beautie. Like you will hear in interviews with "rockstars": Do you ever make mistakes during shows? The answer is: Yes, but we hope nobody hear them, and sometimes the mistakes looks like it was meant that way and the crowd goes "wow, how did they do that?!"

It's a thin line though, being happy with how it sounds because you had enough trying it for the 500th time, and going for excellence. Sounds like you have one hell of a teacher

Good luck!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 03, 2010, 09:53:41 pm
Currently on page 8 of Justin's PMT. So far it's great as there are already a couple of interesting concepts that are new to me! I'm determined to memorise all of the notes of the fingerboard though. Downloaded that "Fretpro" software and it just doesn't seem to be helping! I still find that i'm counting up from the 1st fret every time :-\
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 03, 2010, 11:04:50 pm
Currently on page 8 of Justin's PMT. So far it's great as there are already a couple of interesting concepts that are new to me! I'm determined to memorise all of the notes of the fingerboard though. Downloaded that "Fretpro" software and it just doesn't seem to be helping! I still find that i'm counting up from the 1st fret every time :-\

I still count up too and that concept of counting is ingrained in my brain.  I'm starting to slowly pull away from that though with being able to find notes using the octave concepts in the PMT.  It's hard, it's not an easy task to remember every flipping note on every string.  Sometimes when I practice things become very depressing cuz I just don't get it and then the next day that I play the exact same the brain cells have absorbed the info and I'm able to accomplish my mission.  We all have are good days and we all have are bad days.  I just have to learn to accept those bad days, it's tough though.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 03, 2010, 11:17:24 pm
I still count up too and that concept of counting is ingrained in my brain.  I'm starting to slowly pull away from that though with being able to find notes using the octave concepts in the PMT.  It's hard, it's not an easy task to remember every flipping note on every string.  Sometimes when I practice things become very depressing cuz I just don't get it and then the next day that I play the exact same the brain cells have absorbed the info and I'm able to accomplish my mission.  We all have are good days and we all have are bad days.  I just have to learn to accept those bad days, it's tough though.

Lnk

This is the thing, bad habbits are hard to break. You try and randomly point somewhere on your fingerboard, then without thinking, you naturally start to count up from the 1st fret of the string.. it's quite frustrating! I only really gave the octave thing a shot for about an hour so maybe i'll give it a chance and come back to it tomorrow ^^ Could take weeks for all I know but it'll be worth the effort.

I've decided that I will only progress with the manual once i've completed each section properly though (as Justin suggests). I'm keen to move on to the major scale theory which is after the notes bit - but it's best to dedicate attention to each area and learn it step by step. Otherwise i'll start scanning through it aimlessly, will lose interest because it's too difficult and consequently fail to learn anything!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 03, 2010, 11:30:45 pm
Quote from: VanGilse link=topic=17315.msg161283#msg161283 date=12755978111

 Sounds like you have one hell of a teacher

Good luck!
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He's not only my teacher he's my best friend!  I love him because he is so kind and caring and has the patience to teach me to become the best player than I can be.  He's on call 24/7 for any problems that might occur when I practice.  He totally supports me.  Isn't it amazing how some doors in your life close while others open.  This whole scenario was meant to be.

I couldn't ask for a better teacher than him.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 04, 2010, 11:48:29 pm
F chord, after practicing it for almost the whole night I most of the time only have 1 string muted.

I learned it laying down on my couch. Made it easier to press harder

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on June 05, 2010, 05:12:58 am
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F chord, after practicing it for almost the whole night I most of the time only have 1 string muted.

Well I see that you are making progress. Down to just one muted string from 2 last I read!  :)

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I learned it laying down on my couch. Made it easier to press harder

That should make for any interesting show when you start playing out.  :)

Anyway, whatever works. Good to see someone making some progress.
I seem to have hit the wall again.

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on June 05, 2010, 09:24:43 am
You and me both Walt - I seriously want to learn something new but I think I have Learning Fatigue Syndrome. LFS is an extremely serious condition that manifests when one knows how much it takes to learn something new but that the law of diminishing returns means that I'm going to have to work even harder for even less improvement....

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on June 05, 2010, 09:42:29 am
Well, I'd been spinning around in the world of minor pent improv over backing tracks for ages and not really seeing much improvement ... partly a lack of discipline to really learn and embed new licks in to my playing I guess ....

just had an injection of enthusiasm and change of guitar style with the acoustic solo blues and I'm also doing some acoustic folk songs with my wife

a change is better than a rest

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 05, 2010, 09:50:02 am
Learning Fatigue Syndrome.

Think i've just been diagnosed..
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 05, 2010, 10:03:05 am
normally I sit or stand when I play, but at some point my laziness kicks in and I want to lay down ..but I don't want to stop playing

so I just keep playing while laying down. It's kind of akward and probably very poor technique, but i just love the guitar to much to leave it alone

hitting walls is good, it means you got somewhere you wanted to be, and now you have to look further
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on June 05, 2010, 11:28:28 am
@vanglise: can you still play as good as usual while lying down? I have tried that, and i really have problems with playing anyhthing at all  :P
Maybe I have bad lying-down-while-playing-technique.... :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 05, 2010, 11:44:03 am
Playing standing up doesn't work for me most of the time, I don't see how laying down would be any better! ;)
And I want a travel guitar!
And my new-to-me mic has been delivered!
And I have a little song-swap/round-robin session coming up!
And a guitar-try session, specially visiting a store in Vlaardingen to try the Czechian Furch guitars from Frantisek Furch. My dad said we could go visit The Hague another time to visit some of the guitar stores, because there's just not enough time today.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 05, 2010, 01:20:09 pm
Learning Fatigue Syndrome.


Very interesting diagnosis. Do you think it's contagious?  lol I think I'm encountering this with the PMT booklet.  I don't feel like reading and just want to play now.  I have been playing Gnr's tune Knockin on Heaven's door probably 10 times a day now.  It's just a little tribute to my father.  Because it  being a tribute I always manage to play this song perfectly everytime and with so much emotion an passion. 

Playing the rest of my stuff at a snails pace as per my teacher's request.  I play stuff at 60 bpm and then when perfection is had add another 5 bpm and do it all over again.  This would drive some people over the edge I know there is a method behind the madness.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: teela on June 05, 2010, 01:44:51 pm
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I always manage to play this song perfectly everytime
Lucky you Licks, good on ya! I wish I could play something perfectly, even just once. But I seem to be going no-where. I think you and I are maybe the same age? How long you been playing?
I think the older you are the harder it is to learn stuff.
Like someone else (can't remember who?) on here said...wish I'd stated learning guitar at age 5...oh boy I wish I did.
I seem to be in a rut. I wish I had someone to practice with, someone to jam with.
Sometimes learning guitar can be lonely...
I do not feel good today:(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on June 05, 2010, 03:11:26 pm
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LFS is an extremely serious condition that manifests when one knows how much it takes to learn something new but that the law of diminishing returns means that I'm going to have to work even harder for even less improvement....

Best review I have ever read of this cursed affliction Boot!! I know it will pass but something else has started lately that truly sucks and that is this memory loss syndrome. I think my brain only has so many bytes. Once I use up those byte, anything new I learn erases some of the other bytes. I think I need an external brain drive. God I have to get a life.

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zeitgeist1 on June 05, 2010, 09:06:57 pm
Right now I'm trying to master the solo from Seek and Destroy.  I'm almost there, the only thing holding me back is that ridiculously fast lick in the middle.  Luckily I seem to be too insane to be afflicted with LFS; I've started practicing that lick for an hour a day just to get a 5-10 bpm increase, because that will mean I can play the entire solo up to speed.  So close...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 05, 2010, 10:44:44 pm
@vanglise: can you still play as good as usual while lying down? I have tried that, and i really have problems with playing anyhthing at all  :P
Maybe I have bad lying-down-while-playing-technique.... :D

haha maybe not as good, but I can do it. It's just a little bit different in putting your fingers on the fretboard

I love it. Its just a lazy form of making music ;-)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on June 05, 2010, 11:31:59 pm
Just learned Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 and a bunch of blues improvision in the 12 bar and whatnot.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 06, 2010, 06:38:36 am
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I always manage to play this song perfectly everytime
Lucky you Licks, good on ya! I wish I could play something perfectly, even just once. But I seem to be going no-where. I think you and I are maybe the same age? How long you been playing?
I think the older you are the harder it is to learn stuff.
Like someone else (can't remember who?) on here said...wish I'd stated learning guitar at age 5...oh boy I wish I did.
I seem to be in a rut. I wish I had someone to practice with, someone to jam with.
Sometimes learning guitar can be lonely...
I do not feel good today:(

Hey Teela I get those times when I feel like I'm in a rut too.  Just  last Thursday I had what I would call an emotional trauma day.  I had a long talk with my guitar teacher/best friend I was so upset with my crappy playing that I actually stressed myself out so much that I was reduced to an emotional mess.  We managed to hash a few things out and ways to work around the stress and the areas that I was and still am having problems with.  

My father was near and dear to my heart and passed away last Monday and from then on I just started playing Gnr's Knocking on Heaven's door and all I could think about was the good times I spent with him and being with him in the last few minutes that he was on this planet and my focus totally shifted from not thinking about what if I made mistakes but just about him and me and our life together as father/daughter.  

BTW maybe we are the same age, I will be 42 in November.  I have been playing for 14 months now.  My first guitar teacher though was a waste of 6 months.  You know that kind of teacher who just wants to teach you songs.  Like I will have you playing your fav songs in a couple of weeks.  Ya right.  BS!  Songs that were so far above my playing ability.  He was such a jerk and went straight for the wallet.  I'm glad I ditched this idiot.  

I think because I'm more "mature" than most of the forum members my perceptions on the way I should sound are different.  I know what I mean but it's really late 1:36 am and I can't explain it right now but I will get back to this tomorrow when I can think more clear headed.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 06, 2010, 09:51:20 am
At this point I am near 30, and I am just learning the guitar.
I don't set goals in life, but what i know is this:
if I am 40 I can play guitar on a okay level, if I become 80+, I can enjoy playing the guitar for almost 50 years, als I can probably do some gigs for atleast 10 years, which I enjoy the most; doing gigs.

I have 20 years left to find people that like to jam with others, and that would mean, at some point I will have a band I can practice with.

That's a very long time left. All I need to do is practice the right things now so I have the basics down, if I have those down I can jam with others, and again..I have a long time to reach that point.

And even if something like doing gigs will never happen I will be good enough to play for my family at christmas dinners and such, in the end it's all about the music.

like keith richards said: If I wasn't in the rolling stones I would still play guitar as a hobby.

 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: teela on June 06, 2010, 02:09:59 pm
Hey Licks - yep we are the same age. Sorry to hear about your dad, that's harsh.
Is your best friend/guitar teacher a guy? If so beware! I had one of them once....a good friend who was a guy, ditched me for a girlfriend, hurt like hell  :'( I'm still not over it. He was the one who got me into guitars actually, so I guess that's one good thing.

The wound heals but the scar remains.

Sorry I've got off topic.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 06, 2010, 02:40:54 pm
Teela thanks for your condolences.  I'm married so there's no worries there.  Been married forever to the same sweet guy since I was 18. My husband is my rock and best friend.  My guitar teacher is a guy and  is way my junior and my oldest son's best friend.  What I meant about being best friends is that he totally understands where I'm coming from on all levels.  We are both OC but without the D.  We have a lot of the same stuff going on in our life.  My hubby is understanding but has never experienced half the stuff that has happened to me and my guitar teacher walk, talks, and breaths everthing that I have experienced.  I guess you could call us kindred souls.  It's just nice to have each other to care about and no strings attached.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on June 06, 2010, 03:09:33 pm
... It's just nice to have each other to care about and no strings attached....

Say what !!   :o

you've been learning on one of these !!

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee238/chaucer73/misc/airguitar.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on June 06, 2010, 11:22:24 pm
lol I think you have jumped to conclusions there MrClose. Sorry to hear about your old man Lnk.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 07, 2010, 03:28:30 pm
Thank you Bigoli for your condolences. My father and myself were not particularily close but still he was my Dad! I was never good enuff for him. He was a military man and treated his children like his little soldiers. Not conducive for having a great relationship.   I hate being reminded of my mortality continuously.   One of my close friends just died on Wednesday at the age of 48.  She had some very serious vices that contributed to her demise.  Were here today, gone tomorrow.  You just never know when your number is up.  It has been a very dismal year so far and it sounds corny but playing my guitars has saved my sanity so many times. It's the only thing that gives me great joy! Oh ya I did buy another Parker but not a Nitefly it's a P-38.  Similar but a little different.  The deal was just too good not to buy it so I did.  It's a little older too, l999 model but in immaculate shape.

Mr C2U if I played air guitar lol!  I'm the kinda of person that bops there head or taps a foot if I hear a tune that I love while driving.  I'm not really the air guitar type girl.  I do know some people that have taken air guitar to a fine art.  There so funny to watch. 

Right now I'm doing the PMT book and am trying to seriously see notes in my "minds eye" without cheating and using my guitar(s) and it's really hard for me.  I will get it though.  When,  I don't know.  Just a matter of practice, focus and concentration.  I wish I could just play every minute of my waking hours but that isn't reality for now.  Maybe if I will the lottery.  Fat chance! 

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 07, 2010, 03:43:54 pm
At the age of 12 i lost a friend, then I got 15 and another friend died. at the age of 18 my dad died, and at the age of 22 i lost two uncles to cancer in the same year.

If I may give you some humble advice Licksnicks, try to remember all the good things you father did for you, altough they might be slim. Also, try to get some peace about the past, for your own sake, from what I hear you are not happy the way you where treated.

Also, enjoy life and your friends and family as much as you can, you cant take it for granted, ever.

Mortality, in the end, is one of the aspects that makes life beautiful and why you should look for the beauty in life

Again, humble opinion
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 10, 2010, 09:59:33 am
I'm learning vibrato.
Yes, on the acoustic. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 10, 2010, 10:03:06 am
I have the F chord down, what an easy barre chord that is now!

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: LievenDV on June 10, 2010, 10:38:37 am
I'm learning the walking bass stuff of "fall off trees"
http://www.justinguitar.com/en/JA-202-FallOffTrees1.php

a very refreshing and challenging exercise!
(+it sounds so cool :) )

focussing on the 4 first bar to start with.
all works well in a good tempo already but the 4 chord grip (Cmaj7 on that 4th bar) gets my 2nd and 4th finger in the wrong spots. maintaining the exact same tempo with the walking bass works; throwing in these 3 first chords while they fit in the rhythm works too (not easy, very little time for that)...just that 4th...

If I master the grip more; I can go on with the other bars. I do started to practice the upcoming shapes though because no good at the shapes = no chances at the song :)

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: schect on June 10, 2010, 12:39:47 pm
After all these years finally decided to learn the intro and solo to "Amie" by the Pure Prarrie League. Also learning to fingerpick "Hallelujah" and I'm NOT a fingerpicker.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 10, 2010, 03:27:00 pm
I have the F chord down, what an easy barre chord that is now!



I can remember trying to learn this chord months ago and I thought it was impossible but after many weeks of focusing on it I got it.  Now it seems easy.   Amazing how our perceptions of doing things changes.  That has changed how I view learning guitar a great deal.  I don't worry if I don't get whatever I'm trying learn at first after all it's just a matter of practice and focus and I know that I will eventually get it. 

Working on the PMT book and doing the exercises has given me so much confidence.  I haven't made too many mistakes a long the way and if I do I go  back and see what happened.  I love being on top of my game!
For those of you who don't have this book might I highly suggest you get it.  It's the best money I have spent in a long time. 

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: ani_anirban on June 10, 2010, 05:03:17 pm
I am almost nearing the completion of the 2nd solo for Comf Numb..Can only play at about 70% of the speed and the 3 fast licks even slower than that..but I will hopefully get there..I actually commented this on the Comf Numb topic at forum ,but nobody replied. Justin's teaching of this song is quite heavily dependant on the time signatures of the tablature which we dnt have any more.. >:( Thanks to those $%^#&%...  So its all by the ear as of now..But its a rocking song and worth the sweat..
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 10, 2010, 05:11:20 pm
I love how you just walk into song while practicing chords.

I was playing the A7, and there was Queen - Mama

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on June 10, 2010, 05:52:34 pm
I know what you mean VG, everytime I hit Bm as an opening chord I hear Hotel California in my head.

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on June 10, 2010, 05:55:41 pm
Only ever happens to me on a dark dessert highway.....
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 10, 2010, 07:25:00 pm
That's cool! But when you look at what I think of with which chords it kind of looks pathetic...

Capo 3, G(320033): Reminds me of Teardrops On My Guitar
G6(320000) pluck string 6, 3 and 2: Reminds me of Christmases When You Were Mine
G(320033): Reminds me of Today Was A Fairytale and Fifteen
C(x32010) pluck strings 5, 3 and 2: Reminds me of White Horse
Capo 3, Em (022000) pluck strings 6, 2 and 1: Reminds me of Untouchable
D(xx0232): Reminds me of Come In With The Rain
E5(079900): Reminds me of Crazier and A Perfectly Good Heart
Em(022000): Reminds me of Should've Said No
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on June 10, 2010, 09:56:58 pm
Working on the PMT book and doing the exercises has given me so much confidence.  I haven't made too many mistakes a long the way and if I do I go  back and see what happened.  I love being on top of my game!
For those of you who don't have this book might I highly suggest you get it.  It's the best money I have spent in a long time. 
What is this book? I want it!

I am currently learning aerodynamic by daft punk, such an interesting way to play guitar, so much fun tho. Has any1 here played it before?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on June 10, 2010, 09:58:55 pm
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Only ever happens to me on a dark dessert highway

LOL!  ;D

For me, once the thought gets in it can never leave!

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 10, 2010, 10:03:24 pm
Working on the PMT book and doing the exercises has given me so much confidence.  I haven't made too many mistakes a long the way and if I do I go  back and see what happened.  I love being on top of my game!
For those of you who don't have this book might I highly suggest you get it.  It's the best money I have spent in a long time.  
What is this book? I want it!

Justin's very own Practical Music Theory found here!

*Oh no, I forgot the link.. It's not like i'm too lazy to find it or anything..*
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 10, 2010, 10:06:35 pm
That's cool! But when you look at what I think of with which chords it kind of looks pathetic...

Capo 3, G(320033): Reminds me of Teardrops On My Guitar
G6(320000) pluck string 6, 3 and 2: Reminds me of Christmases When You Were Mine
G(320033): Reminds me of Today Was A Fairytale and Fifteen
C(x32010) pluck strings 5, 3 and 2: Reminds me of White Horse
Capo 3, Em (022000) pluck strings 6, 2 and 1: Reminds me of Untouchable
D(xx0232): Reminds me of Come In With The Rain
E5(079900): Reminds me of Crazier and A Perfectly Good Heart
Em(022000): Reminds me of Should've Said No


I mean, to me it just tells me you don't need a lot of xx--xx to make a good song. Some are so easy, its not even funny

I also discovered a Jimmy hendrix intro.

Its on the G B E strings, 7th fret. It could also be the 8th, I am not sure where I start counting the frets

Red house if I remember correctly

Such a great song. Can't play the rest, just the small intro

Kind of fun to just browse trough your guitar and pick up on all this stuf
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on June 11, 2010, 12:20:29 am
*Oh no, I forgot the link.. It's not like i'm too lazy to find it or anything..*
lol thats about as lazy as when you chose your name for this site
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 11, 2010, 01:12:43 am
I want to learn Mélancholie du Changement and Midnight March. Why is it that I can't buy tabs for exactly both of those songs...

@bigoli
LOL!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: LievenDV on June 11, 2010, 07:14:31 am
I am currently learning aerodynamic by daft punk, such an interesting way to play guitar, so much fun tho. Has any1 here played it before?

yeah I always wanted to be able to do that a few years ago but I was very-very beginner back then.
need to try it again.

there are a lot of youtube vids on this..
one says; tap it, other says don't

one plays it high, other low etc....
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on June 11, 2010, 08:58:49 am

there are a lot of youtube vids on this..
one says; tap it, other says don't

one plays it high, other low etc....
yea i've watched heaps of them, I reckon this tab (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/d/daft_punk/aerodynamic_ver5_tab.htm#comments) is the best. Its fret tapping and judging by comments and sound, seems very accurate.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 11, 2010, 10:21:58 am
*Oh no, I forgot the link.. It's not like i'm too lazy to find it or anything..*
lol thats about as lazy as when you chose your name for this site

ROFL! You hit the nail on the head with that one, seeming as my real name consists of just 2 more letters.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zakk64 on June 11, 2010, 01:21:39 pm
SRV's version of Freddie Kings Hideaway.

W
haven't heard this version, I like to play the clapton, but like Freddie King's best
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 11, 2010, 02:26:51 pm
I've been transcribing SRV's Texas Flood (El Mocambo version).. absolutely loving it. Can't stop watching my DVD over and over again! It's really improving my playing!

Can't wait to move on to the other titles like Voodoo Chile and Lenny.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 11, 2010, 02:32:19 pm
I've been transcribing SRV's Texas Flood (El Mocambo version).. absolutely loving it. Can't stop watching my DVD over and over again! It's really improving my playing!

Can't wait to move on to the other titles like Voodoo Chile and Lenny.

Hey A(sh) can you give me a link to this version. 

Thanks
Lnk(the lazy version of Licksnkicks) lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Quark on June 11, 2010, 02:40:07 pm
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haven't heard this version, I like to play the clapton, but like Freddie King's best
Here is the SRV Version along with Rude Mood  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-BEphVRgts).
I like Freddie Kings version as well but this one gets the heart pumping.

W
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 11, 2010, 03:03:05 pm
I've been transcribing SRV's Texas Flood (El Mocambo version).. absolutely loving it. Can't stop watching my DVD over and over again! It's really improving my playing!

Can't wait to move on to the other titles like Voodoo Chile and Lenny.

Hey A(sh) can you give me a link to this version.  

Thanks
Lnk(the lazy version of Licksnkicks) lol

Haha, sure Lnk!

Texas Flood (Live at the El Mocambo) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLw7nozO_U)

I can only play about the first 40 seconds of it right now (and certain other areas which I transcribed from the studio recording) but you'll learn so much from this song! The beginning parts are relatively easy to transcribe as a lot of the licks are repeated/muddled up with more/less notes thrown in. Just a matter of establishing SRV's 'signature lick' then playing around with it.

If you need any tips let me know!

EDIT: Don't forget to tune a half-step down to Eb! Oh and the song is played in the key of G (F# if you don't tune down but I advise you do) - So you'll find loads of your licks around the extended minor pentatonic scale.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 11, 2010, 06:51:01 pm
I am trying to listen how the strumming goes for certain songs.

I am not having a lot of trouble hearing what chords are being played, but the strumming I still can't hear really good
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 11, 2010, 06:57:01 pm
Take some drum lessons. ;)

I started learning 'Into Your Heart' by Antoine Dufour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDXkLPuCybU) today... gosh, it's tough, all those rasgueados and pseudo-rasgueado strums...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 16, 2010, 03:02:34 am
Absolutely devastated!! I'm having a mental melt down!   Had my lesson tonight and my teacher doesn't want to show many anything more because I can't digest the strumming patterns from my last lesson.  I just can't get the rhythm of the strumming patterns. I couldn't move the chord progressions around that were assigned  for homework.  It's do or die, keep on or quit.  I have never felt this negative about my playing.  When my husband picked me up from my lesson and asked me what was wrong I just burst into tears.  This is just too much!  I can't just keep beating myself up when I can't adapt to new things readily but I do.  This just sucks big time.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: David V on June 16, 2010, 03:51:35 am
Hey Licks, I feel for ya.  It sucks to when it's pointed out that you can't do something that you thought you could.  Or when you feel like you should be able to do something but can't.  Keep at it though.  Struggling through these things makes us better musicians.  Nobody said guitar was supposed to be easy.

Wishing you good learning and happy guitar times in the near future.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: schect on June 16, 2010, 03:41:38 pm
LnK,

During the course of your guitar journey there will be things that come fairly easily and things that seem impossible. However, given time, those things not only become possible, they become easy. Just ride the ups and downs and keep working at it. The worse thing you can do is to learn a whole bunch of things poorly. I know, I'm the master at that. Good rhythm guitar is hard, and often gets overlooked because everyone wants to learn solos, but the rewards for being able to play good rhythm are great. Just think of Keith Richard or John Lennon, two very good rhythm player.

And to steal a line from "League of their Own". "There is no crying in guitar playing".
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 16, 2010, 06:02:01 pm
Sympathies, Lnk.

As another guy said to me here on this forum a while ago - try to enjoy the learning process! It's comforting to remember that the hard work and struggling is all part of this amazing adventure of ours. Any 'musician' who hasn't had a hard time acknowledging different aspects of music, and learning from their mistakes.. shouldn't deserve to be called a musician. Battle through those tough areas and enjoy the rewards of your effort, it's so worth it :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Xaromir on June 16, 2010, 06:46:53 pm
*patpat* Poor lnk. :/
Maybe you just need to go a bit slower for a little while,
leave the guitar in the corner for a little while maybe,
not going to help that much but maybe you will be more enthusiastic about it again when you pick it up again. :3

Well, just go slow, some people are quicker with xyz some with zyx but have a hard time with xyz.
And even if you have problems with your strumming patters doesn't mean you can't have fun with playing.
It's not like everything is over now. :)
Just have fun, should be above everything.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 16, 2010, 07:02:49 pm
Thanks for your kind support, all of you!  I never thought that I would be in a position that would hold me mentally captive.  I could never imagine that guitar playing would be this hard but it is.  I thought there might be some bumps in the road but not like this.  This for me is totally depressing and I can't hold my head high no matter how I reflect on the stuff that I have learned so far and am good at.  I think what's bugging me the most is my teacher refuses to teach me anything at all because I can't absorb the strumming patterns at all.  I feel totally dumb!  I just feel like he's giving up on me and I know he's not and it's just a girly emotional thing happening. He said even that the next lesson charge would be on him.  What if I can never play rhythm?  What then?? I woke up this morning and can't shake this negative feeling.  This situation is just taking me to new levels of anxiety!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on June 16, 2010, 07:25:34 pm
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I just can't get the rhythm of the strumming patterns. I couldn't move the chord progressions around that were assigned  for homework.

What does this mean? Can't move the progressions around? What are the patterns?

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 16, 2010, 09:10:08 pm
TB these are the strum patterns:

DDUUDUD

DDDUUUDUD

Chords are:

G(classical positioning) D maj  E maj  to C maj

A7 D7 C7 G7

I can't for the love of me get the double and triple upstrokes my pick gets stuck on the 1st string everytime and rings out so loudly compared to all the other strings.  I can't get the hand motion of the strumming consistent.  I find I'm strumming using my wrist.  Is this wrong or right or should I strum from the elbow?

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Aluch on June 16, 2010, 09:22:48 pm
I am learning Shuffle blues in stage 5, beginner course, in the key of E, struggling a bit in the last 4 bars trying to land the fingers of the B7 chord at same time, from E7.  I am super enjoying it , this is fun.

Hey Licks, I remember me in the same situation at the conservatory school with my classic guitar many years ago, I had this teacher that I still remember, very annoying, never encouraging. 

However, I see your teacher is supportive in some way, he would not charge you next time, and actually no point to build on something that is not solid, may be you should consider stopping going for while and practice at home for a week or two and find some jame sessions or song circle like I go now, very useful.  I remeber Justin said one time 15 min witha band worth more than one hour alone or something similar.  I try to find some beginner band to join
good luck in this journey, we are together
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 16, 2010, 10:51:37 pm
Lick. I think you should be happy with your teacher not wanting to go further. It would be way worse if he just kept learning you new stuf instead of working on your problem you have now.

I think you are making to much out of it, like the thinking in your head doesn't stop at the moment. Give it some time!
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I am still learning the F chords on my accoustic and correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the barre's not mostly just muscle strength?

I just keep playing until my hands start to hurt, and give it a rest. Then start again.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on June 16, 2010, 11:40:09 pm
Absolutely devastated!! I'm having a mental melt down!   Had my lesson tonight and my teacher doesn't want to show many anything more because I can't digest the strumming patterns from my last lesson.  I just can't get the rhythm of the strumming patterns. I couldn't move the chord progressions around that were assigned  for homework.  It's do or die, keep on or quit.  I have never felt this negative about my playing.  When my husband picked me up from my lesson and asked me what was wrong I just burst into tears.  This is just too much!  I can't just keep beating myself up when I can't adapt to new things readily but I do.  This just sucks big time.

Licksnkicks

Only way to overcome it is to keep going. It may take time but before you know it you'll forget about this point in your playing.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on June 17, 2010, 12:34:00 am
OK LnK, first off, can you play all those chords with no problem?

By no problem, I mean play your own rhythms and change those chords at will. IOW, you could just strum those chords all day long switching easily and without thought?

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Wrist vs Arm. I personally feel that wrist looseness is very important and you will end up strumming complicated and fast rhythms with a lot of wrist. However, some things just naturally gravitate towards elbow. So either is correct. Having said that, if you are trying to figure something out, the large slow movement of elbow might help.

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Now I think what will help is for you to turn the strumming pattern into something more musical. It's kind of hard for me to figure just how they are supposed to sound but the first one doesn't seem too difficult although I did find myself changing it bit by accident. It at least has some musical feel ( provided I'm playing it with the correct timing, which I'm not sure of ).

The second one seems a bit funky, I can't quite figure out what that is supposed to sound like. It seem a bit dirge-like the way I'm doing it. But that may not matter if you know what it's supposed to sound like. The reason you are snagging the string is because you probably need to rotate your hand a bit. Also strum a little closer to the bridge until you get the groove of it. The strings are tighter there and less likely to snag.

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I just tried them again and the more I think about this it might be some sort of exercise in discipline. The more I try to play them the less musical they sound. I wish I could hear it once or see the notation. At any rate I think all you can do is go very slow until you get it ingrained. The chord switching thing should be rather easy after that. Maybe even saying/singing the words down/up would help
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on June 17, 2010, 12:45:34 am
I'm learning Hotel California...kind of.  I personally don't think it's right but it's what my guitar teacher is teaching me, he says it's one of the guitars there but I said that we should try to encorporate more of it into the song.  Also he's teaching me it without a capo...which I know is wrong after watching the eagles play it live with one on the 7th fret.  Don't get me wrong, he's teaching me the right notes but they're too low.  Should I continue towards trying to get the song perfect or should I just learn what my teacher gives me?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Aluch on June 17, 2010, 03:10:50 am
stick with teach for now, capo is to make the pitch suitable for the singer voice and all, imho
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 17, 2010, 12:41:54 pm
@mb12
Just keep going with what your teacher does. Or maybe ask why you're not using a capo. Transposing 7 frets up isn't all that hard if you know your circle of fifths. ;)

@Aluch
Capo is especially handy for wanting a particular tonality, but different chord shapes.
E.g. I want a song in the key of D, but I can't do much with the chords in that key, so I put the capo on fret 5 to be able to use chord shapes from the key of G, but still keep the D tonality. Also, you can achieve a somewhat fresher sound when using a capo, e.g. Andy McKee's 'She' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go9c7SaxUH4). Using a BGDGAD tuning (IIRC), imagine how it would sound without the capo, probably a whole lot duller. ;)
Don't even get me started on partial capos! :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on June 17, 2010, 02:40:54 pm
The capo's not the thing I'm really worried about, I feel like it's just not nearly enough notes.  I'll post a video today to let you see and judge if I'm just being overly picky as per  usual
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 17, 2010, 03:28:57 pm
Hey thanks TB for your sage advice once again.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on June 17, 2010, 07:30:11 pm
So here's what I know so far, I missed a few notes, scuffed a few, f'd up the D with a little finger from stairway but this isn't to show how awesome I am (you should know that ;D) it's just to show you what I'm learning, my problem with it is that I think there are way too few notes.  I could just be being overly picky though.  And why yes I did rush this and it was a first attempt :P you can even hear the neighbours dog barking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG2yEgd-QhM
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on June 17, 2010, 08:58:44 pm
I forgot to add that my camera is doing the bleary eyed hangover thing, btw if people could check it fast, I'd like to delete it soonish
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 17, 2010, 10:08:48 pm
I think my 1st finger is finally toughing up. I still have a bit trouble with the F6 and F9 because it requires pretty weird hand 'posture' (not sure if im using the right word here) but I finally start to hear a difference between the Bes and other F chords, which is a good thing haha
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on June 17, 2010, 11:49:54 pm
So here's what I know so far, I missed a few notes, scuffed a few, f'd up the D with a little finger from stairway but this isn't to show how awesome I am (you should know that ;D) it's just to show you what I'm learning, my problem with it is that I think there are way too few notes.  I could just be being overly picky though.  And why yes I did rush this and it was a first attempt :P you can even hear the neighbours dog barking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG2yEgd-QhM
I thought it sounded all good, however I don't own the song and they have taken all versions off youtube so I havn't heard it in ages.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on June 18, 2010, 12:10:34 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXfVjBTwSI :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 18, 2010, 01:07:08 am
That re-focus effect is annoying as hell, lol.
Nothing wrong with what you're playing man, keep it going.
This is also without a capo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAzQO3YWiyM
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on June 18, 2010, 01:28:14 am
I think it keeps refocusing because it's trying to gauge a depth between my keyboard, me and then the wall waaaay behind me since my door's open.  I just think there isn't enough notes to play on its own.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 18, 2010, 02:50:09 am
Yes, you might be right about that. Try something yourself, then show it to your teacher, maybe? ;)




I'm learning to play in Nashville tuning now.
You might think 'why, it's basically standard', yes, correct, but the octaves keep throwing me off when arpeggiating chords!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on June 18, 2010, 02:51:13 am
I think it keeps refocusing because it's trying to gauge a depth between my keyboard, me and then the wall waaaay behind me since my door's open.  I just think there isn't enough notes to play on its own.

Hotel california is played using three guitars...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 18, 2010, 03:36:54 am
Took today off of anything to do with guitar!  Instead I went to my friends house and played on her sons drums. I played the drums for a couple of months when one of my sons friends had to store his down in our basement.  Oh I suck just as bad as before but it was just too much fun.  Then her 11 year old son came home and really showed me how it was done.  For 11 years of age the kid is off to a really good start.  It's really hard to coordinate the base drum with everything else.
 My shin got sore.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on June 18, 2010, 05:50:11 am
Took today off of anything to do with guitar!  Instead I went to my friends house and played on her sons drums. I played the drums for a couple of months when one of my sons friends had to store his down in our basement.  Oh I suck just as bad as before but it was just too much fun.  Then her 11 year old son came home and really showed me how it was done.  For 11 years of age the kid is off to a really good start.  It's really hard to coordinate the base drum with everything else.
 My shin got sore.

Licksnkicks

Start with only the snare, move to bass drum and snare, then add hi hat. LOL my room mate is an amazing drummer. Takes too much time away from my guitar but every once in a while it's fun to just bash some drums. I am like John Bonham, minus everything that makes him a great drummer. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 20, 2010, 02:45:48 am
Casey that's too much to remember for now.  I just wanted to play them cuz I could and get away with abusing them.  I really needed some stress relief so just banging away on them and trying to keep the beat was fun.  Sometimes I just have to say "no" to the guitar even though it beckons and calls my name. ;)  I have taken the last 2 days off of playing not cuz I wanted to but had to.  No choice in the matter.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Aluch on June 20, 2010, 03:44:42 am
stress relief!!
have you thought of rhythem guitar as a good stress reliever? try Justin lesson on shuffle blues, key of G, A, and E, and loop back again, it is great.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 20, 2010, 02:01:21 pm
Banging away on a good dread relieves stress too. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Dan Graves on June 20, 2010, 02:12:00 pm
Figuring out the guitar and bass parts for this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3RcIAmTGLg
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 20, 2010, 02:20:13 pm
Figuring out the guitar and bass parts for this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3RcIAmTGLg

Good for you Dan.  No one can say your not ambitious!
Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 21, 2010, 07:31:42 pm
Finally Finally Finally,

just picked up the guitar and they all sounded clear: Bes, BesM, F9, F6, Fm.. all 8 F chords I had to learn from my teacher

Its so funny, you guys where right. You keep practicing and practicing and you don't succeed. And then, you have these beautiful tones that give you the power to continue your journey

Maybe I play them next learn-session not clean, but now I atleast now I can do it, on a freakin accoustic

Which brings me to another point. I love my accoustic so much already. I picked up my electric today and I was like..No, I want my accoustic haha

the wasburn accoustic sounds so..natural. I really think Fender Strat (even if i know only have a affinity strat) is just not going to be my guitar. It just doesn't fit me. Good thing, a month ago I didn't even know what and what not fits me!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 21, 2010, 07:34:28 pm
damn, another long story. I hope you guys get used to it some day ;-)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Dan Graves on June 21, 2010, 09:48:09 pm
Sounds familiar VanGilse.
Sounds like me fumbling with pinch harmonics before i noticed Justin's lesson and the advice to keep trying and trying.
Eventually you always get there.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: VanGilse on June 21, 2010, 09:53:35 pm
it has been an very frustrating week, but the moment i noticed I am succeeding felt amazingly good
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 22, 2010, 10:59:44 pm
the advice to keep trying and trying.
Eventually you always get there.

This takes sometime though to realize.  Learning this instrument for some of us is very complicated and frustrating but if you do it in little chunks it's doable.  A puzzle that comes together to make a picture in the end. 
So many analogies to choose from.  What's your analogy of putting things together and gaining success?

Licksnkicks

P.S. I'm really thinking I have to ban myself from this site with the exception of 1 day a week.  I'm so addicted!! lol I'm here away too much and should consider making other use of my time, like practicing and learning more theory.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on June 22, 2010, 11:43:48 pm
No Remorse-Metallica
And
Battery-Metallica
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Aluch on June 23, 2010, 12:17:55 am
same with me, I am addicted to this site.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 23, 2010, 12:34:13 am
I started playing Ebon Coast with the metronome. I play it much more relaxed now.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on June 23, 2010, 07:31:11 am
just been playing 'wind cries mary' over and over and over again to get it sounding nice (like jimi does). Cant decide if I want to sing it or not for the big youtube debut.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 23, 2010, 11:15:25 am
Sing it. Seriously.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 24, 2010, 09:04:51 pm
Backtracking a bit. Going to try and learn a bit of "Staircase to Heaven".

On a side note, I need some advice! I have weekly guitar lessons which last 30 minutes.. so not long. Instead of turning up just and just following what my tutor has planned, I want to try and force my learning a bit more for the short period of time I have, so i'm wondering what you guys think is the best way of getting the most out of it.

I think I should be using the time for things I wouldn't normally focus on.. stuff that involves a bit more 'effort', if you like. Maybe that's a bad way of putting it, but you catch my drift. Maybe i'll make a list for him stating my weakest points, then perhaps he'll assist me more with those aspects of my playing? Hmm..
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: strapp75 on June 24, 2010, 11:01:57 pm
I'm learning the november rain solo. Tomorrow i should get the "Learn to play gun'n'roses" DVDs. I'll probably start with "easy" songs like knocking on heavens doors and "don't cry" then i'll move to "Sweet Child of mine" cuz i've never learnt more than the intro.



Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on June 24, 2010, 11:55:18 pm
Backtracking a bit. Going to try and learn a bit of "Staircase to Heaven".

On a side note, I need some advice! I have weekly guitar lessons which last 30 minutes.. so not long. Instead of turning up just and just following what my tutor has planned, I want to try and force my learning a bit more for the short period of time I have, so i'm wondering what you guys think is the best way of getting the most out of it.

I think I should be using the time for things I wouldn't normally focus on.. stuff that involves a bit more 'effort', if you like. Maybe that's a bad way of putting it, but you catch my drift. Maybe i'll make a list for him stating my weakest points, then perhaps he'll assist me more with those aspects of my playing? Hmm..
lol please tell me you mean Stairway To Heaven?  I have 30min guitar lessons too.  I think it's too short, but I always seem to stay longer than the person before me, iunno maybe he likes me or something, we normally just talk about music and gigs and stuff inbetween him teaching me stuff.  When he does go into an area I don't like, for example he taught me a hendrix song and afterwards I said "plz no moar!!" as I don't like hendrix.  It really depends on the kind of things you want to learn.  I do cool stuff with my guitar teacher, a lot of scales and modes, chord composition and stuff like that.  Just ask to do whatever you're interested in
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 25, 2010, 02:10:24 am
Backtracking a bit. Going to try and learn a bit of "Staircase to Heaven".

I think you mean Stairway to heaven,  right?

I'm learning how to play the spoons for a redneck party this weekend. My significant other is playing the kazoo, little brown jug and washboard.  Look out Youtube! LMAO

I'm showcasing Back in Black at this redneck gala decked out in my redneck costume.  My time slot is 9 pm and my stage is a white sandy beach(really). The sun will just be setting as I start to play!  I have my little Vox with me which has the option of being battery powered, so it's just perfect.  I'm up against 4 guys playing there acoustic guitars.  I know that they have picked folk songs to play for there set.  I intend to rock there socks off. They knew I played but they don't realize how serious I was about this whole venture! Just some chick playing a guitar!! Little do they know!(evil laugh!) I don't quite have the real solo down but I have perfected the modified version that my teacher and I worked out together some weeks ago. $100 is the first prize and it's mine already! Can you say ca-ching! lol  These are the yahoos that I tried to jam with before and they don't know there butt from a hole in the ground. They think there Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young!  Seriously!  But they don't know the difference between A maj and A min!  Go figure!

The spoons are not as easy as I thought them to be.  I sort of have handle on them but getting the rhythm down right is another thing.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on June 25, 2010, 02:46:08 am

The spoons are not as easy as I thought them to be.  I sort of have handle on them but getting the rhythm down right is another thing.
I think Justin does lessons on this at www.justinspoons.com
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on June 25, 2010, 07:57:44 am
"Staircase to Heaven".

Nobody has heard Bucktooth Billy's version? Shame.

:D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: PJMCM on June 25, 2010, 08:09:12 am
"I sort of have handle on them ...."

All of my spoons have handles on them - I find them very difficult to use otherwise :D

Peter
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 25, 2010, 02:09:49 pm
"I sort of have handle on them ...."

All of my spoons have handles on them - I find them very difficult to use otherwise :D

Peter

LOL

Peter here is a link on how to play them.  Looks easy but try it.  It's not instant gratification either. Try going for the horse galloping rhthym.  Can you do it.  You just need 2 spoons that are identical in shape and size. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK_M8TIEE-4

Give it a go!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: PJMCM on June 25, 2010, 04:36:21 pm
Can I do it? Hell, yeah - I can do that with my eyes shut! :D

Like, sure: I have as much chance of doing that in the near future as I have of walking on the moon next week!

I used to have an old uncle, long since passed away, who played spoons at family parties whilst another uncle played accordion and everyone sang along. I was only 6 - 8 years old at the time and I was transfixed - I thought it was amazing. He could do it with a set in each hand, using his legs all sorts of parts of his body to get the sound. Brilliant!

It's just like anything else, I suppose. Takes learning the proper technique and then putting in the practise. You're a pretty determined person when you put your mind to something (or so I believe), so I'm sure you'll get there if you really want to.

And for that horse galloping rhythm, you're better off with two halves of coconuts, a la Monty Python (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SJ0xR2_bQ)

Peter :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on June 25, 2010, 04:57:33 pm

The spoons are not as easy as I thought them to be.  I sort of have handle on them but getting the rhythm down right is another thing.
I think Justin does lessons on this at www.justinspoons.com
You don't know how hopeful I was clicking that link :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on June 26, 2010, 01:47:41 am
I've been doing a lot of shredding lately as I've been on a Metallica binge. (I love that percussive alternate picking at high speeds. :D) Been messing around with the Phyrigian(I think that's how you spell it) Mode a bit and practicing a lot of scales. Overall my finger dexterity is at an all time high for me. I can play stuff that would have made me crap my pants a year ago.

Oh and good luck with the contest Licks! I think you'll blow those hippie's right out of the water. Just remember to ROCK! Do a bunch of blow before hand and I think you could do back in black full length in just under a minute and a half. ;) That would freak them out.

And I find that a lot of the people in my local area that play guitar don't even know their major chords... I'm like here lets just jam an G C D progression, very basic, and they are like what's a G, I'll show them they're like COOL, now what's a C?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 26, 2010, 06:12:27 am
Hey Casey thanks for the support!  I don't do drugs anymore.  Too much trouble especially that stuff that you mentioned.  Up all night, sleep all day.  Anyhow I'm having a party all by myself practicing some improvs on the Back in Black solo and it sure helps to crank "it" up!  NO one is home. Ya gotta love it!   This is so excellent.  I have been doing everything but practicing what my teacher gave me for the week for the last 3 hours.  It's amazing what a couple of shooters will do for you.  Back to practice.  Less than 24 hrs before my debut in front of 30 people.  It's all about blowing them out of the water.  I'm up for it!  $100 at stake!  Good luck to me!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on June 26, 2010, 12:09:28 pm
 I have to go on a 2 week trip without a guitar, then get back and relearn everything  :'(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 26, 2010, 09:08:41 pm
Now you know why I have a travel guitar. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Dan Graves on June 26, 2010, 09:48:38 pm
Did someone mention spooning ?
SPOOOOOOOONMAN ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mAP1en6v6g)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on June 29, 2010, 01:25:00 am
Hey Casey thanks for the support!  I don't do drugs anymore.  Too much trouble especially that stuff that you mentioned.  Up all night, sleep all day.  Anyhow I'm having a party all by myself practicing some improvs on the Back in Black solo and it sure helps to crank "it" up!  NO one is home. Ya gotta love it!   This is so excellent.  I have been doing everything but practicing what my teacher gave me for the week for the last 3 hours.  It's amazing what a couple of shooters will do for you.  Back to practice.  Less than 24 hrs before my debut in front of 30 people.  It's all about blowing them out of the water.  I'm up for it!  $100 at stake!  Good luck to me!

Licksnkicks

LOL The other night no one was home so I set my Marshall(Only 100 watt, but loud enough) up in the living room and blasted my amp at 10 for like 4 and a half hours. Was quite fun. Being home alone with your guitar is amazing! No one to bug you. Let us know how your debut goes. I still have yet to do any live work. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mrodgers on June 29, 2010, 04:51:28 pm
LOL The other night no one was home so I set my Marshall(Only 100 watt, but loud enough) up in the living room and blasted my amp at 10 for like 4 and a half hours. Was quite fun. Being home alone with your guitar is amazing! No one to bug you. Let us know how your debut goes. I still have yet to do any live work. :P
I get a kick out of this on the guitar forums...  "Only 100 watt..."  What does "only 100 watt" sound like?  I only have a little $100 15 watt SS with a 12" driver in it and it's quite loud enough that I'm sure even living out in the country, my neighbors can hear me when the wife and kids aren't home.  I couldn't imagine 100 watt.

Although, I guess based on my college car audio days (no rap beating, it was purpose built for one thing, playing David Gilmour guitar solos...) I've always known that it take 10 times the power to increase the volume to twice as loud. 

I don't get to turn mine up to 11 very often, but I love doing it when I can.  Sometimes I do it just to scare the kids.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lemming on June 29, 2010, 06:07:50 pm
Licks, good luck on the competition, sure you'll do great  ;D ... Let us know how it goes .........

......... & if it's a redneck party, have you heard Hayseed Dixie's versions of AC/DC's songs, they're awesome !?!?  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 29, 2010, 06:25:09 pm
@casey
Hell, even 30W can be deafening. I wonder what that 180W acoustic amp I really want sounds like when it's turned up... :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on June 29, 2010, 11:35:10 pm
There is no such thing as "only 100watts"! 100 watts is ALOT  :o With a 100 watt amp cranked you cant even stand closer than 2 metres because of the feedback I think. atleast thats how it is with my amp.  Maybe he meant 10 watts?  :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 29, 2010, 11:41:08 pm
Licks, good luck on the competition, sure you'll do great  ;D ... Let us know how it goes .........

......... & if it's a redneck party, have you heard Hayseed Dixie's versions of AC/DC's songs, they're awesome !?!?  ;)

Tell you about it later.  I won by default! 

Here's the link to the redneck version of Back in Black by the Hayseed Dixies!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5y4SV1oJo4

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on June 30, 2010, 03:05:33 am
There is no such thing as "only 100watts"! 100 watts is ALOT  :o With a 100 watt amp cranked you cant even stand closer than 2 metres because of the feedback I think. atleast thats how it is with my amp.  Maybe he meant 10 watts?  :P

Nope 100 watt 2x12 inch Marshall. I say only... because I just recently downgraded from a 200 watt randall. Yes it is loud, but I have no neighbors within 100 yards. Rock is supposed to be cranked up to the NTh degree. You get the best tone out of your amp that loud IMO. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: RobJamGun on June 30, 2010, 03:18:11 am
Universal mind - Liquid Tension Experiment
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mike42 on June 30, 2010, 06:07:24 am
Man that's one loud amp. Blows away my unplugged acoustic. Rock out to some James Taylor on that thing :) ha.

I just bought a slide and I'm trying to figure out how to use the thing. Right now I've just got it in open tunings and I'm messing around with stuff. Good fun
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on June 30, 2010, 06:51:38 am
Licks, good luck on the competition, sure you'll do great  ;D ... Let us know how it goes .........

.........

Tell you about it later.  I won by default! 

....


you won !!!

 :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 30, 2010, 09:37:41 am
Man that's one loud amp. Blows away my unplugged acoustic. Rock out to some James Taylor on that thing :) ha.

I just bought a slide and I'm trying to figure out how to use the thing. Right now I've just got it in open tunings and I'm messing around with stuff. Good fun

Cool stuff! Which open tuning are you using? I have a slide too, and I started messing with it in open D which was great fun. Never got used to it though. Perhaps I should get back to it... :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: plukey on June 30, 2010, 11:42:43 am
My little 4W vox amp gives me tinitus at half volume :D :D  Maybe I'm getting old.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 30, 2010, 11:46:12 am
Maybe not, if the speaker is small it will need less power thus it can get louder with less power relative to bigger speakers. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on June 30, 2010, 12:22:13 pm
Licks, good luck on the competition, sure you'll do great  ;D ... Let us know how it goes .........

.........

Tell you about it later.  I won by default!

So we arrive at our destination only to find out that my friends who like to think that there Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young are 3 no 4 sheets to the wind.  They have been drinking since the strike of noon.  I like a smart person only had 1 drink all day knowing that if I had any more it would impair my playing.  I thought that given we were about to have dinner and it was 2 hours until they were supposed to play that these guys would smarten up and stop drinking.  I told them that wouldn't be able to play if they kept drinking and they said ya ya sure whatever.  I didn't care cuz I didn't want to forfeit the $100.  Well come 8 pm it was there 15 minutes of fame and they absolutey stunk.  They were just totally xx--xx faced.  At 10 to 9 now my 15 minutes of fame. I slinked my way down to the beach just as the sun was setting.  I had my little amp backed up with batteries and I did a lick from Shoot to thrill.  Within minutes all 30 pairs of eyes were on me.  I told them that I was going to perform Back in black and without any further adieu I was going to play.  I made a few little mistakes which I was able to cover and the solo kicked butt but I was terribly nervous.  I could feel myself shake.  I have never performed for more than 3 or 4 people before.  At the end I got a standing "O".  It was amazing.  They then asked me to play some more which I did for them.  Thank god I had a little repertoire  of a few songs that I worked up.  Anyhow at the end of this they announced me the winner by default.  I guess that's something cuz will never know how the other guys would of performed.  Who knows maybe they would have given me a run for my money.  Next year and they all promised to be up for something.  And that's what I heard from them about this year!

Licksnkicks

....


you won !!!

 :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lemming on June 30, 2010, 12:26:39 pm
Yay for LnK ......... well done girl ......... stuff "default", you won fair & square  ;) x
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 30, 2010, 03:10:49 pm
Not that I can't hybrid pick, but I started practising it just now. Not a pick with 2 fingers (middle and ring), but now including the pinky as well. Turns out there isn't much to practice here at all... I wonder what will be te next I will learn, I kind of lost my drive for a couple of days.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on June 30, 2010, 05:38:15 pm
3 cheers for lnk

hip hip
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mike42 on June 30, 2010, 06:40:16 pm
Cool stuff! Which open tuning are you using? I have a slide too, and I started messing with it in open D which was great fun. Never got used to it though. Perhaps I should get back to it... :D

I've been using mostly open E because I've been learning She Talks to Angels as well.

I've used open G a little bit too, but I know nothing about slides and very little about open tunings so it hasn't made much of a difference what i play in.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on June 30, 2010, 07:10:46 pm
Normal open G (DGDGBD) or Dobro open G (GBDGBD)? I'm not great with open tunings either, actually.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 01, 2010, 02:15:21 am
Normal open G (DGDGBD) or Dobro open G (GBDGBD)? I'm not great with open tunings either, actually.

Cue how the heck did you get into open tunings?  

Hey guys thanks for the accolades on the competition thing.  It was a very good experience but I got to tone down the nerves a tad.  I was shaking so bad I could feel my legs just quivering.  I guess I will have to drink a bit more. ;)

I'm trying my hand again at Message in a Bottle and this time it's a way easier.  It surely stretches your hand and what an exercise it is.  It's such a good song.  I've got most of it.  I just can't play it at the 150BPM yet. 
 
Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on July 01, 2010, 06:26:07 am
.... Hey guys thanks for the accolades on the competition thing.  It was a very good experience but I got to tone down the nerves a tad.  I was shaking so bad I could feel my legs just quivering.   ...

never did Elvis any harm

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 01, 2010, 06:32:28 am
I can always count on you for support Mr.C2U ;D

Hey you could be one of my groupies! ;)

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mike42 on July 01, 2010, 08:04:25 am
Normal open G (DGDGBD) or Dobro open G (GBDGBD)? I'm not great with open tunings either, actually.

Just normal open G. I haven't really figured out any chords or anything in open tunings, so I'm basically an absolute beginner at that type of thing.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 01, 2010, 12:21:21 pm
@Licks
I didn't really get into open chords, I just read a lot about tunings and that included those two and many others.

@mike42
Think of it this way:
In standard, play some chords. Then in open G, try to find a way to play those same cords. Every fretted note on the strings 1 5 and 6 then move UP two frets... Note that some fingerings are modified as you can't finger some of the ones I came up with before, and some notes fretted before were left off because of the retuned open string.
E.g:
G in standard:    320033
G in open G:       x00000 or 500000 (see, that 6th string G moved up two frets!)
Em7 in standard: 022033
Em7 in open G:   242000
Cadd9 in standard: x32033
Cadd9 in open G:   x52030
D in standard:   xx0232
D in open G:     020230

Something like this is quite a lot fun in DADGAD or other modal tunings, as you can get some very interesting chord voicings - with 6th add9 add11 and even add13 chord tones.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lemming on July 01, 2010, 12:29:48 pm
@Licks ...... Justin does a lesson on She Talks To Angels & the open tuning on there ...... it's really good, I re-tuned my acoustic so I could learn the song, it's really easy & a GREAT song to play, the intro is "fairly" simple but sounds "WOW", especially to people that dont play  :D ........ give it a go, I reckon you'd like it !?!?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: MadCat on July 01, 2010, 12:47:39 pm
3 cheers for lnk

hip hip

Hooray!

Congratz LnK!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: StratsRock on July 01, 2010, 03:04:25 pm
1) In Bloom ... Nirvana

2) Dazed & Confused ... Led Z

3) Boulevard of Broken Dream ... Green Day
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mike42 on July 01, 2010, 05:52:59 pm
@Cue

Thanks for the tips. I understand the theory behind it, I had just never really looked into relearning all my chords in open tunings.

The modal tunings sound pretty interesting. Maybe I'll play around with those too if I get some time.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 02, 2010, 01:28:41 am
I can always count on you for support Mr.C2U ;D

Hey you could be one of my groupies! ;)

Lnk

CONGRATS! I knew you would win! Most people don't have that good of experience their first time out, so good job, I think it's a good sign for you. Keep it up! LOL I need to get a list of songs to play. At almost three years of playing I have yet to really play an entire song through. (I can play a few but they are really simple) Although my technical skill is way beyond what I thought it would be.(Really it's all I've practiced) I'm actually working on playing my first full song (That has more than a two to three chords) :P I'm thinking either shoot to thrill or master of puppets. Shoot to thrill probably because master of puppets is long! But I was jamming out again last night and I figured out how to make my power chords ran on my A or D string sound a lot fatter. By palm muting and down picking my open E and letting the power chords ring out, it kind of adds some bass riffing to some nice tasty power chords. My brother doesn't want to play metal with me though. :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 02, 2010, 01:37:49 am
What's wrong with two to three chords? Yeah well, okay, a song with maybe four chords could be difficult... I made an arrangement of a song that's based around four chords... don't think it's that easy though. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 02, 2010, 01:50:48 am
No, actually I'm talking most of the songs I know are very simply based around three chords. 4 chords not really that hard, it's just when you start learning 8 minutes songs, with 6 different sets of like 8 chords and then fills between all that. It's kind of staggering!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 03, 2010, 04:25:19 am
Do you ever go through phases where all you want to do is play and NOT learn theory?  I think I'm having one of those phases now.  I'm trying to clean up Message in a Bottle and have the intro down clean but it's those nasty barre chords that don't sound excellent.

Licksnkicks

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: David V on July 03, 2010, 06:09:44 am
I've not had such a phase, but I think my theory is a bit ahead of my playing level.  It would probably be good for me to forget about theory for a while and get working on learning some more songs.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 03, 2010, 12:41:13 pm
Well here's something to yhink about... ever since I've 'finished' learnign Ouray I just kind of stopped playing alltogether.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 03, 2010, 02:20:40 pm
Well here's something to yhink about... ever since I've 'finished' learnign Ouray I just kind of stopped playing alltogether.

Cue, why?  "I just kind of stopped playing all together".  That's kinda of scary coming from you.  Get on with yur playing there boy!

I going theory overboard here though.  I take my notebook basically where ever I go and my lap top with Justin's PMT on it and when I go for a drive to the city or the cottage for that matter, I'm on my computer doing exercises and what not!  I guess I just need a break!  There are certain reasons that you do things the way you do.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 03, 2010, 02:33:27 pm
See, that's the break I'm taking. Kind of lost my drive. So, learning now things is kind of pointless then anyway.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on July 03, 2010, 03:33:02 pm
I was meant to be on a 2 week break but it was cut short yesterday when I dislocated my right arm snowboarding and bused back home :-\
Its very hard to play now as I cant move my upper arm, I can only just manage to play comfortably when I pick in a sort of claw hammer position. Looking forward to learning this new technique tho   ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 03, 2010, 03:57:45 pm
Sorry to hear that man, hope you'll be well soon!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Aluch on July 03, 2010, 05:44:33 pm
what is PMT?
well, I am still in stage 7, and not really doing more songs, except for 3 little birds, and wild thing, the other songs I am struggling with finding the rythem, so. 
so spending a lot of time with F, change from there to other as Justin suggested, and I also I practice a lot that shuffle blues especially in key of A
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on July 03, 2010, 09:44:53 pm
Belated congrats Licks - just caught up with this - well done!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 04, 2010, 12:06:53 am
Do you ever go through phases where all you want to do is play and NOT learn theory?  I think I'm having one of those phases now.  I'm trying to clean up Message in a Bottle and have the intro down clean but it's those nasty barre chords that don't sound excellent.

Licksnkicks



I spent a lot of time not learning theory. I refined and refined and refined my technique. And then I'm like, what do I do with all this? So I've been learning theory. :P But at least I don't have to think about my playing.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 04, 2010, 02:22:44 am
Well here's something to yhink about... ever since I've 'finished' learnign Ouray I just kind of stopped playing alltogether.

Cue watch out for the spelling police! lol "yhink" What's that all about!

I'm like a mother hen worry constantly about the people I care about.  It's really not like you to lose your motivation though.  On your vids you seem so outgoing and motivated to play. Look at your body language when you play.  Positive vibes going on there. Your such a charmer! If you need a break though, you need a break!
Belated congrats Licks - just caught up with this - well done!
   
Thanks Mr Bootstrap your kind words are so appreciated!    I love words of encouragement!                                                                             


CONGRATS! I knew you would win! Most people don't have that good of experience their first time out, so good job, I think it's a good sign for you. Keep it up!

Thanks Casey I didn't know if I would win or not.  Thanks to Jack Daniels I was able to pull off a win by default!  Never the less it was a very positive experience especially when I didn't sing the lyrics, the people that I played for did.  Some joined me in the moment by playing air guitar.  It was so cool to know that they really enjoyed it. I did make a couple of small mistakes but I think I covered my butt pretty well!  I want to do it again.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 04, 2010, 12:09:36 pm
Thanks Lnk! Those are typos, not speling erorrs.
I know there's something going on in my videos, but I just lost the drive and everything along with it. These days I watch sitcoms and hang out on forums. I do sing more than usual though.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 04, 2010, 02:52:43 pm
Thanks Lnk! Those are typos, not speling erorrs.
I know there's something going on in my videos, but I just lost the drive and everything along with it. These days I watch sitcoms and hang out on forums. I do sing more than usual though.

You'll get back into it.  It will take something tiny to flip the motivational switch again.  Your very young and you have time on your side unlike me.  I've set up goals for myself.  1 yr, 2 yr that sort of thing.  I maybe dead before I reach my ultimate goal.  Being for me obsessive compulsive with my guitar is a good thing.  I'm amazed at all the things I don't do anymore so I can have more time for my guitar.  I think I have to have more balance to my life though.  I don't know anymore. 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: lorenzo on July 04, 2010, 04:54:54 pm
Folks, a break is good. Gives you the drive to get back into it. I definitely just pick the guitar up and start playing a few songs instead of doing some theory/practice. That's why we play, right? Enjoyment is key here.

Lick: I assume you won your talent show? If so, congrats. Another JG success story  ;D
Cue: you'll get back into it, like I say, a break is good. If not, we will all kick your ass! I give you 48hrs then I'm sending SJP over  :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 04, 2010, 05:21:15 pm
I don't learn that much theory to start with... all I practice is challenging songs.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 04, 2010, 11:58:21 pm
Hi Lorenzo and yes I did but it was by default.  The other 4 guys who were supposed to play were very drunk.  They couldn't play if there life depended on it.  I was stoked to beat there butts.  The thrill of victory was good but not as good as if I would of had some competition.  I'm really regretting someone not video taping it.  It was an after thought.  There will definitely be a next time and I will get these yahoos to financially commit themselves to a challenge.  Hopefully that way they won't drink and there will be some friendly competition.

Lick: I assume you won your talent show? If so, congrats. Another JG success story  ;D
Cue: you'll get back into it, like I say, a break is good. If not, we will all kick your ass! I give you 48hrs then I'm sending SJP over  :P

LOL

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 05, 2010, 01:05:29 am
I'll give him a six-pack of beers and run... :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: lorenzo on July 05, 2010, 07:30:34 am
I'll give him a six-pack of beers and run... :P
He's Scottish, you'll need more than a 6 pack to tempt him.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 05, 2010, 12:07:21 pm
Ah darn, a keg then? :P
Oh well, if that doesn't work I'll just throw it at him and run... xD
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 05, 2010, 02:30:11 pm
If you wanna get the job done right Mr. Jack Daniels will do perfectly!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Dr B on July 05, 2010, 05:10:32 pm
Personally, I prefer Jim Beam...

Meanwhile back at the thread topic - I am learning "the stumble" (Peter Green version) - it's just a collection of licks...fantastic.

On the theory side, well not much but I have just been introduced to the Dorian mode as an extension to pentatonics - so I am more than intrigued.

I do play hybrid scales for my blues playing (mixing major pentatonics with minor pentatonics and blues scales) over suitable chords.  I always thought it was just a case of bolting on major notes onto the minor pent - but turns out its practically a thing called Dorian!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 05, 2010, 09:47:41 pm
I like to play! ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 05, 2010, 09:51:25 pm
Play (with) what? :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: justinguitar on July 05, 2010, 10:50:46 pm
I'm working lots on picking at me moment. Half an our each on:

economy picking, hybrid picking, circle picking and another type that George Benson uses that Dario showed me!

Then I do about an hours transcribing, then some jamming!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on July 05, 2010, 11:15:29 pm
I'm working lots on picking at me moment. Half an our each on:

economy picking, hybrid picking, circle picking and another type that George Benson uses that Dario showed me!

Then I do about an hours transcribing, then some jamming!

How DARE you take time to practice! You should be fulfilling the limitless demands of your ever-present e-masters, not jamming. You make me sick!

Now get the camera and show us the picking methods of this George Benson chap.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 05, 2010, 11:46:55 pm
I like economy picking and hybrid picking, what is circle picking though?

Justin, do you use your pinky when hybrid picking?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 06, 2010, 01:23:05 am
Play (with) what? :P

Myself... with the guitar of course.

And Cue I think Circle picking is making a small circle with your pick. I can't remember all that someone was telling me about it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: marcusmarkmus on July 06, 2010, 05:46:20 am
Play (with) what? :P

Myself... with the guitar of course.

And Cue I think Circle picking is making a small circle with your pick. I can't remember all that someone was telling me about it.

Like SRV did?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 06, 2010, 06:33:34 am
I'm so honored that Justin stopped by and told us what he's up to.

Circle picking:

http://how-to-guitar-tune.blogspot.com/2009/11/circle-picking-learning-new-picking.html

I certainly didn't know about this picking technique.  I don't think it will happen in my lifetime but you never know.

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 07, 2010, 12:01:26 am
LOL I pick like that all the time, it was the only way I could figure to minimize my movements to the max. It's kind of a fancy way to alternate pick. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 07, 2010, 12:35:14 am
Hey that's cool.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 07, 2010, 01:44:50 am
So you finish your break on guitar yet cue?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 07, 2010, 04:02:14 am
No more lessons for a while due to extenuating circumstances.    :'(  Have to learn on my own.  I just hate the thought of being without a teacher. This just sucks actually it's beyond that!
I need to learn some more chord progressions though.  That much I do know.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 07, 2010, 12:30:53 pm
So you finish your break on guitar yet cue?
I went to the guitar store yesterday... that didn't help either! LOL.
I am convinced I need a guitar with cedar over koa now...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 08, 2010, 12:31:21 am
So you finish your break on guitar yet cue?
I went to the guitar store yesterday... that didn't help either! LOL.
I am convinced I need a guitar with cedar over koa now...

LOL Everytime I go into guitar center. I leave with a heavy heart. All those beautiful guitars I couldn't afford. :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 08, 2010, 01:13:00 am
I left without my heart, LOL. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 09, 2010, 03:47:23 am
Trying to learn chord progressions major, minor and  major 7.  I really just want to polish my fluidity up so it's really clean and flows all together.

Should I time myself for chord progressions like you do in the one minute changes from the beginners course?

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 09, 2010, 12:22:59 pm
I think you should just practise it untimed the first few days, then start timing yourself. That's usually what I do when learning songs, first I get all the chords and techniques going, then I switch on the metronome and even out the tempo. Good luck!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 09, 2010, 03:56:47 pm
I go onto Kijiji  all the time and look at all the beautiful guitars for sale.  I saw a vintage Les Paul for $25 K. Outta my ballpark.  I love some of the vintage Fender strats though.  I have a particular fondness for strats.  Don't know why but I do.

Casey what kind of guitar do you own?  It's not in your sig line.

How long did it take you to master circle picking not that I'm going to be trying it anytime soon. 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 10, 2010, 01:45:53 am
I go onto Kijiji  all the time and look at all the beautiful guitars for sale.  I saw a vintage Les Paul for $25 K. Outta my ballpark.  I love some of the vintage Fender strats though.  I have a particular fondness for strats.  Don't know why but I do.

Casey what kind of guitar do you own?  It's not in your sig line.

How long did it take you to master circle picking not that I'm going to be trying it anytime soon. 

Lnk

I have a Hagstrom Ultralux XL-5 (I love this guitar. Neck is only like a half inch thick. http://www.hagstromguitars.com/XL-5.html) for my electric and an ovation Celebrity shallow body for my acoustic. And master circle picking? LOL I've messed with it but I mainly alternate pick. My circle picking leaves a lot to be desired. But my alternate picking is getting pretty good. One of these days I'll post some of my playing but I haven't decided what to post. LOL I like quite a few different styles so I practice a lot of different things.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 10, 2010, 03:05:09 am
Very pretty guitar and it's a strat!  love it!

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 10, 2010, 12:04:52 pm
I'm learning rasgueado strumming.

On my dreadnought, yes, with mediums, and a spruce top. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 10, 2010, 12:48:45 pm
Very pretty guitar and it's a strat!  love it!

Lnk

Got it for 350. It'll last me til I decide which one I want to drop an unreasonable amount of money on.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 10, 2010, 02:26:48 pm
Very pretty guitar and it's a strat!  love it!

Lnk

Got it for 350. It'll last me til I decide which one I want to drop an unreasonable amount of money on.


I know I've been there.  I had a cheap ass Chinese strat which when I first got it was like winning the lotto and the I got my Parker and it still blows me away.  I just love it.  It only weighs 3.5 lbs and has that lovely carbon fibre neck which my had just glides over. 
Still quite the experience.  Anyhoo.............which have you been drooling over and what do you have your sights set on.

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 10, 2010, 04:15:06 pm
Gah jeez, I really feel the urge to get some polish and wax and beautify my guitar... even considering getting some sexy golden Gotohs for it... haha. She already looks pretty with the abalone-inlaid pins, and now I want to bling her up even more!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 13, 2010, 02:33:08 am
A custom shop Strat or Jaguar (Probably some cool green wood grain color if possible LOL). Or a nice les paul custom (All black with gold hardware)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 15, 2010, 10:26:52 pm
Now learning tremolo picking. Classical style! Recuerdos de Alhambra? Not quite...
Now I'm finally onto some techniques I want to learn and now I don't expect to find it on Justin's website... meh. :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 16, 2010, 04:21:55 am
Linking pentatonic positions 1 and 2 together.  Still working my butt off on chord progressions.  I'm not playing or practicing tonight.  Just surfing and playing games on line.  There's so many games to play on line.   I can see how you could get sucked into the vortex of being an addicted on line gamer. 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 16, 2010, 12:46:14 pm
I used to play stuff on MiniClip, had an account on TribalWars as well as NeoPets and I was even on Habbo Hotel...

And I'm thinking of purchasing tabs for Catherine, I love that song.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Holden on July 16, 2010, 12:51:20 pm

Learning fire and rain - James Taylor

just started  :P won't take long to learn I think, but i have only watched a little bit of the video lesson

 :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Carl on July 16, 2010, 04:37:48 pm
learning sultans of swing live licks  ;D
just when i thought that song couldn't get any better i start whatching all the live versions, they're ...epic
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Phalanx on July 17, 2010, 04:50:12 pm
Learning my first fingerstyle song (well mostly fingerstyle), Fast Car by Tracy Chapman. Great song & great lesson from Justin! 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: stephen4x on July 17, 2010, 04:52:47 pm
Trying out Working Class Hero, seems simple but hard to get sounding very good, if that makes sense! Finding it tricky as I put my acoustic down pretty much since buying an electric, kinda hard to get used to it again. Now forcing myself to use it at least half hour each day to get used to the feel of it again.  :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 18, 2010, 04:21:49 am
Trying out Working Class Hero, seems simple but hard to get sounding very good, if that makes sense!

It totally makes sense.  AC/DC songs seem really simple usually D, A, and G chords but to get them to sound totally rockin' and clean is extremely hard.  At least for me it is.  I know as I progress things that I thought next to impossible seem much more doable now.

Me, looking for a new teacher which sucks.  My teacher right now is having big time health issues and my lessons for the last couple of months have been so sporadic.  I'm so not happy and I don't know if things will improve for him in the near future but I need to progress and not stagnate!  I'm very anxious trying to find one that I will like.  It's like finding a needle in the proverbial haystack!

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: gareth51 on July 18, 2010, 03:35:08 pm
It has been a while since I posted on this thread.  The recent purchase of an acoustic guitar means I am trying some different songs, so I am currently learning Wonderwall by Oasis and Suddenly I See by KT Tunstell.  I have struggled with Wonderwall before, but Justin's lesson has got me on the right track.  I have just started transcribing Nothing Ever Happens by Del Amitri (fantastic lyrics, although a little bit dated now) and Anak by Freddie Aguilar.  I watched Justin's video on fingerstyle percussive playing a couple of days ago, which looks interesting so I am going to spend some time on that too.  The only problem is I may have to work away from home for 6 weeks, so I won't have much practice time.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 18, 2010, 03:40:13 pm
Learning Catherine by Don Ross.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 18, 2010, 04:09:12 pm
So Cue as I understand this you had to buy the tabs for this song?  You couldn't find them on the internet and download them?

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 18, 2010, 04:28:24 pm
Yes, and no. I bought them off CandyRat and they are better than anything that one would find on a random website.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on July 18, 2010, 04:40:04 pm
I'm getting some blues rythm down, transcribing, bit of theory, and plan on learning some songs in full. I can't actually name one I know completely...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 18, 2010, 05:33:08 pm
Cue couldn't of transcribed this song?

Something just occured to me that if you look back at the beginning of this thread you can chart your own personal progress.  I just did that and "we" have all come along way. 

Lnk
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 18, 2010, 07:21:08 pm
No. The rhythm is all difficult and the climax of the song is a bunch of slapping that I can't pick out by ear at all.
Yes, we sure have come a long way. I went from simple Swift-style boring arpeggiated chords all the way to Andy McKee, Antoine Dufour and now Don Ross. Next up is probably Ragamuffin by Michael Hedges. That would be total awesomeness if I could play that song.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: gareth51 on July 19, 2010, 08:10:46 pm
I have just started transcribing Nothing Ever Happens by Del Amitri .
I was convinced that this would use 16th note strumming, but I have now discovered it is in 12/8 timing.  Now I need to get my head around another way of strumming.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 19, 2010, 08:17:57 pm
I think I figured out the solo from Should've Said No. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on July 20, 2010, 12:30:03 am
I usually learn many songs at once. I'll get bored half-way through one and come back to it when my skills (yea right ... skills  ;) ) have improved and I feel more comfortable with a certain technique. I find learning those parts I got stuck in a breeze to learn.That reminds... I still need to get that outro solo down for SRVs - Pride and Joy... Anyways, in an extreme case, around a year and a half ago, when i picked up the guitar, I tried learning the acoustic parts to "nothing else matters" for a few days and never even got the intro down. I gave it another go last week and learned all the acoustics parts and the solo in two days.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on July 20, 2010, 01:48:07 am
I'm currently working on Shot Down in Flames and Long way to the top as well as hells bells. LOL I'm on an AC/DC stint!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 20, 2010, 01:53:43 am
I think I figured out the solo from Should've Said No. :D
LOL I'm such a dork.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ_odLljfok
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 20, 2010, 06:40:15 am
Learning now after being a little older and wiser if the guitar teacher I picked out was the right dude for me.  Having doubts now.  It sucks bigtime to know that I have to maybe look for someone else.

Hey Cue did you ever go to a teacher for lessons or are you self taught as they say?

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Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 20, 2010, 11:36:24 am
That's too bad, Lnk.

I'm self taught. I have thought of taking up some classical guitar lessons, though.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on July 20, 2010, 01:41:03 pm
Learning now after being a little older and wiser if the guitar teacher I picked out was the right dude for me.  Having doubts now.  It sucks bigtime to know that I have to maybe look for someone else.

Hey Cue did you ever go to a teacher for lessons or are you self taught as they say?

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I had a guitar teacher back when I was around 16 and I now realized that he sucked. He could play well, but he had no idea about teaching guitar. He was probably the kind of guy you ask to play at a barbeque or a drinking party. I don't think he had ever heard of the CAGED system. He taught me like 4 chords per session and I never missed a lesson for 3 months. We never got into basic theory like the major scale, chord constructions, intervals (? no way he knew what an interval was). If you have any unanswered questions or doubts that he is not able to clear up, then it is clear... find a new guitar teacher. He should not only be above you level playing wise, but should be knowledgable enough to answer any doubts you might have. wish you good luck!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 20, 2010, 02:40:44 pm
My teacher can play and he is excellent at that but an excellent guitar player does not always make for an excellent teacher. 


I was looking into going to the Royal Conservatory of Music in Canada but there lessons are $80 per hour.  That's a little rich for me.

 ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on July 23, 2010, 05:31:18 pm
LnK I know what you mean, it could be really awkward leaving your guitar teacher.  The only reasons you'd stop is if you couldn't afford them, decided to stop playing guitar or didn't want to get lessons.  Which are all very doubtful.  I would suggest that you just say you're taking a break.  That's what I would say.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on July 23, 2010, 06:38:07 pm
but................I really have to tell him in a nice way why I'am leaving him.  I always paid him up front for the whole month.  He never had to ask or chase me for money.  I've supported his new band from the get go.  I went to all the gigs that he had.  When he was in the hospital I was there for him through his health issues and more.  I think that I should of not really become his friend and just left it at a student teacher level.  Who knows! 

It sucks my lessons are very sporadic, I always now have to call him to see if I have a lesson.  He changed the night of my lessons to another night so he could go work out. Our deal was every Tuesday at 7.  I was supposed to have a lesson last night(he changed the day again) and was told to phone him early in the day to remind him which I did and I didn't get a phone call back confirming my lesson.  Last week the day of my lesson I phoned him to make sure I had a lesson and when I did he was on his way to somewhere to practice for an upcoming gig.  He could of informed that this would be happening and I would of gladly switch to another night. 

I have come to the point where he is getting very unreliable and I'm getting mad.  I'm getting to that pivotal point too where I'm able to learn on my own and understand and teach myself things.  So I have another teacher lined up for August and will just be going twice a month. 

Been studying Keith Wyatts blues lessons on Youtube.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on July 25, 2010, 08:11:19 am
it's been a while since I actually worked through one of Justin's song lessons ... so I'm having a go at metallica - nothing else matters
I know the song and the band are huge but I've never really listened to them before ... I like this tune
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on July 25, 2010, 02:57:16 pm
it's been a while since I actually worked through one of Justin's song lessons ... so I'm having a go at metallica - nothing else matters
I know the song and the band are huge but I've never really listened to them before ... I like this tune

Same, I was just thinking that when I got the subscription update on youtube...waiting for Erup...I mean some songs that I really like  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on July 25, 2010, 03:14:48 pm
This is the third time Justin does a lesson of a song I have only learned a few days before... It happened with Comfortably Numb, then with The Wind Cries Mary, now with Nothing Else Matters. Looks like I'm one step ahead of you Justin xD
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 04, 2010, 05:18:19 pm
Decided to get a barre workout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-JBgD8brIU
1) I'll be playing it on 13 gauge strings
2) I'll want to play it at that speed and faster.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 04, 2010, 06:12:49 pm
Your just a little learning machine aren't ya?

Your knowledge has grown by leaps and bounds and sure beats the hell outta what I've learned so far.  I guess it's the time factor.

But................good for you Cue!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 04, 2010, 07:22:39 pm
My index finger is killing me.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on August 04, 2010, 09:50:07 pm
Nice Cue ;)

Reminds me, i'm pumping up my Strat's strings to a 13 gauge soon! Can't wait!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 04, 2010, 10:06:11 pm
Fingers of steel!  I like my 9/45 hybrid strings on my electric and I ain't changin' them there strings any time soon.  Sorry just gotta redneck joke emailed to me.

Why are you changing them to a thicker gauge?  Isn't 11 enuff? My fingers are just fine with the 9 gauge and couldn't I don't think handle anymore. 

Just came back from my specialist, doctor that is and she explained all of the biomechanics that my fingers have to go through JUST to strum a chord.  It was utterly amazing. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 04, 2010, 10:39:54 pm
9s? I probably can't even tell whether I'm fretting a string or not! :P
I'm even thinking of stepping up to 14s at some point... tuning down too, though (C or C#).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: A on August 04, 2010, 11:07:36 pm
Lnk, you'll find a nice variation in tone depending on the gauge used. I'm going for the thicker strings on my Strat for that beautiful, chunky SRV sound that I love so much! I also tune down a half step. Thinner strings have more of a mellow, sweet vibe going on which is also cool.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: kotmatrosskin on August 04, 2010, 11:29:42 pm
The hybrid string sets are just great: I mounted a 10-52, so the higher 3 string are soft enough for bending and stuff (I don't downtune :-)) and the basses are tight and feel (and sound) great. That's my new weapon of choice!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 05, 2010, 01:43:09 am
I just installed proudly all by myself a new set of 9/45's but the low E string is a bit wobbly or there is some variance in the tone of it. Sort of like an unwanted vibration!   I know that I did change them correctly but I can't figure the low E string out.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 05, 2010, 02:59:07 am
My low 'C string' (56 tuned down to C) has a wobble before it settles into pitch. It's becase the tension is so low. I would expect the same to happen with a 45 as low E as the 45 is the A string on my guitar...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 07, 2010, 07:13:36 pm
I see the string thing at an issue hear.
You don't have to use big string to get that big sound.
Yes the bigger the string the bigger the sound same as a guitar if it is bigger it will have a bigger sound.
I play country lick so have to use  what I use .
All my strings are truly custom as far as my electrics go,
 I have been trying just plain med gauge on my acoustic.
I think SRV played like a 12 or 13 little E , John Mayer says you should use what you can bend.
If you can bend the G string 5 frets up from the starting note use that gauge, i not you may need to go lighter
I play alot of blues and SRV stuff nobody ever says if your string were fatter you would have that sound.
The tone come from your hands more than strings, amps and guitars

Hey! Guys
I watch these two guys and I dig them.
Carl can play his but off if youtake this lick and add Justins thoughts on the  Dim Chord you will have a great thing.
The second like is very simple, but if you don’t know it you need to.
Hope this is helpful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idbwX0-ac_U&playnext=1&videos=LN7ZlDyTeTY&feature=sub


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz8vVL50blc&playnext=1&videos=XTQdrFv3gwY

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 07, 2010, 07:24:00 pm
You know how far I can bend the G? One fret. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on August 07, 2010, 09:54:21 pm
I've got a few covers lined up, but I'm gonna do them when I get my acoustic, so expect a few in September, not the start though as I have a TKD grading, a concert and going back to school (but this year I have to work hard).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: MadCat on August 08, 2010, 07:00:54 am
I'm learning "For whom the bell tolls". It is quite easy and slow, for a metallica song.  ;)
It could be a nice beginners metal song at least for a guitar player, it seems to be written for/by a bass player.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Dan Graves on August 08, 2010, 07:18:45 am
I'm learning "For whom the bell tolls". It is quite easy and slow, for a metallica song.  ;)
It could be a nice beginners metal song at least for a guitar player, it seems to be written for/by a bass player.

It is.
Never read the credits for Ride The Lightning ?
Cliff wrote most of that song.
That's why it starts with that wah-Bass riff.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: MadCat on August 08, 2010, 07:33:35 am
I read the credits years back. I think I just can't remember.  :-\
But I love this wah-bass riff.
I believe, that Cliff had a big impact on the whole songwriting of metallica. They got so much more melodic on "Ride The Lightning" compared to "Kill 'Em All".
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 08, 2010, 05:15:32 pm
[quote =Holden

Learning fire and rain - James Taylor

just started  :P won't take long to learn I think, but i have only watched a little bit of the video lesson

  Great song keep it up
[/quote]
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 09, 2010, 12:24:31 pm
Dumb question but where do find on line tab paper cuz I want to show the more learned scholars here some riffs that they may be able to help with.  I need to have the frets on fire for these riffs.  I know I should be doing some sort of different picking to get it up extremely fast.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lemming on August 09, 2010, 12:38:26 pm
Hi Licks ~ top left of the page on Justins site, there's a link that says "blank papers" ........ is that what you need ??
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 09, 2010, 12:49:44 pm
Sorry Lem didn't explain myself very well but I need to find some tab paper that I can transpose right on  the post I'm posting itself.  So I can show some one what I mean for the notes I need help with.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: chix2 on August 09, 2010, 12:54:17 pm
hi licks

 i think im gettin you right, do you have  a scanner, if not  local libray or public internet cafe should have  one, print some of justins  tab as  said  write on what you need  a n then scan in an paste or attach to your post 

chix
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 09, 2010, 12:59:13 pm
I do have a scanner and that's a great idea.  You got it right!

I could also do it the long winded geeky way too.

So I have a choice
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 09, 2010, 03:51:21 pm
Hey Group
Licks , you need a phase shifter to play VH he has all kind of effects but the PS gives that song it sound.
Simple man and Jason Mraz I'm yours follow the same progression.
Great songs
I would like to take Close to you, I will is so pretty, had to listen hard to the Db minor 7 on the last I will.
I use a capo at the 5 fret so a C is now my F chord .

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 09, 2010, 04:54:24 pm
Jason Mraz is cool, only if I have heard only one song of him...

Oh, and I don't have a Greenfield to play Andy's songs... or a Stonebridge (now Beauregard) to play Antoine's... lol.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 09, 2010, 06:08:37 pm
Goggle theory for guitar I have seen some tab stuff there I think might could copy and paste it.
If you can't find it message me maybe I can find the link
 
I like really good melodies I'm your has it, I have played music many moons I played a red neck joint this week end.
People liked all the songs but I have never seen people do what they do when I play I'm yours. seem young and old people like it, it a great melody
Soul Sister is another good one, but not sure if it will beat Jason's Song
These song's if you can sing them will get people in a good mood.
Playing places were people may have a gun in there boot always good to keep people in a good mood.

Years ago there was a song I had to play it so much, many bands refused to play it.
Achy breaky heart two chords with the same beat as Tulsa time another two chord song.
The lyric's can be stupid, no matter melody good , people like!!!!!!
People still like that song and they still know the dance that went with it.
Each person will get what they get from music .
Saw a guy, I will mis-spell his name Andy Mckay he took a song by tears for fears cause it had a great melody and did a fine job.
His tuning is not standard but he got down with a great melody
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 09, 2010, 07:33:52 pm
This really sucks for those about to rock!  I have a riff from Back in Black and just went to Youtube to see how Angus played this riff (alternate picking or what) and the video has been pulled.  I don't even have the cd anymore!  Sony sucks eggs.  I have tried every avenue to even hear this song let alone see the vid.  I'm so mad and beyond aggrevated.   >:( >:(

I don't know all the political crap about these videos but why do they pull some and not others?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 09, 2010, 08:21:07 pm
This really sucks for those about to rock!  

I don't know all the political crap about these videos but why do they pull some and not others?

Seems this is a new law, you can write any person who is a US congressman and see if they have a answer.
 It  political licks and it sucks .

I'm not sure , sometime they write me back have had better luck with the senate lol

Please don't mess the thread up with any real political views I just learn about this new law, and you can tell people who made the law you don't like it you have that right the cost of a stamp and your time, try not to cuss  just get your point across.

 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 09, 2010, 09:18:00 pm
I didn't cuss at all and if I did it would of got deleted.  I know better than to swear on a public forum.

The descriptive words that I used help to describe the situation that is looming are just that,  descriptive words and nothing more.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 10, 2010, 05:25:13 am
I was saying not to cuss the congressman LOL
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 10, 2010, 10:31:00 am
But............if you look at the original post you won't find ONE cuss word!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 10, 2010, 04:34:01 pm
Lol
I do not think i said you cussed and I know you did not cuss.
I was stating do not cuss a  person in the US legislature.
I know there can be problem, you cam mis- read a post and I like anyone else can mis-spell and just mis- understand.
Back on the subject matter.

I am going to share a song I have been working on, I am a male the song wrote and done by a female so I have to re-write the song for a male.
Plus her melody changes a small amount on each verse.
Too me it is the best written song done this year,
I am learning a new song by the Band Perry, it is called If I die young, and it is one of the best written songs I think I have ever heard in a long time.
Capo 2 fret G D and A are the main chords, her voice modulates on the A chord you can hardly hear it but it moves to a B minor back to the A.
Sometimes she just plays an A sus 4 which is the minor third note of the B minor.

Great song will be a big hit
If I die young bury me in satin, lay me down on a bed of rose's .
Sink me in the river at dawn, send me away with the words of a Love song.
The sharp knife of a short life, well I've had just enough time
That's  just the Chorus
A penny for your thoughts, oh no I 'll sell them for a dollar.
They're worth so much more after I'm a goner.
Maybe then you'll hear the words that I am singing.
Funny when you dead how people start listening.

This girl has it all, a new hook in every verse , nice turn around's the song even has a bridge in it too.
There is only 4 real chords, but nothing really simple about it.

Too deep for you try the Joker by the Steve Miller band, you can change the key from A to G, too sing it and it too is great another hard to sing and play song lol simple chords
Peace and rock on
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 11, 2010, 02:07:28 pm
I just gave up on I Know Your Pain and started polishing up on From Katie's Window. I just forgot how to play this little ditty, lol. I think it's a good thing though, This will result in me putting a bit more of myself in it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: thepicnicband on August 11, 2010, 11:57:02 pm
"Simple Man" is a lovely guitar song. Well done. It's one of my own personal favourites and the structure is so simple (no pun intended). I love Skynyrd.
I'm still learning the intro to "Fire and Rain" as taught so well by Justin. I can play the rest but I'm having trouble keeping my fingers from dulling strings at the G in the intro; they just don't seem to want to do what I tell them. It will come but I need more time to practice.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 12, 2010, 12:21:55 am
Today I made a little set-list (more like a complete repertoire list) of songs I know. It contains 11 songs of which 2 are my own arrangements of existing songs. The other 9 are songs I've learnt over the past year (now I think about it, I learnt my first complex fingerstyle song in November-December).
Added up it requires me to retune 8 times (7 times at least), and will take up about 50 minutes. I really have to come up with something original at some point.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 12, 2010, 02:47:46 am
Finger style guitar
Just got a magazine www.fingerstyleguitar.com  The addition is title Certified Guitar Players If you have never heard this term before it was coined by the great Chet Atkins.
Man even if you don’t like finger style you need to read this.
Tommy Emmanuel is talked to; just what he has to say is worth the price of the magazine.
Great pictures of Tommy as a young man.
Steve Wariner  I saw him with a broken wrist on his right hand, one of the best player I have ever seen. Just cause he play country there is very little simple about this guys playing Jerry Reed meets Chet with the voice and guitar phasing of George Benson.
John Knowles  man you wish to speak of a mad scientist , he would be the man.
They all play tribute to Chet Atkins.
If you play the guitar this is a must read, what these men share about there live and music well it is priceless.
It was suppose to come with a CD mine did not there was only 2 copy left and I was lucky enough to get a copy.
Jerry Reed , Eric Clapton to John Mayer are mention by these three CGP man.
Chet made this name for all the great players who have no musical degree but most people myself included will never be as good as him.
The word alone I am happy with if it came with the Cd well that would be better.
They don’t call Chet Mr. Guitar for nothing.
This thing will inspire you as a musician  and as a human being.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 12, 2010, 02:57:54 am
All but one of my repertoire is fingerstyle, so whatever lol. :P
And I'm not really a huge fan of Tommy. Wouldn't mind checking one of his shows out some time though.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 12, 2010, 05:14:28 pm
What are you going learn this week, I know this one but it too cool not to share.
Watching Carl made me remember some great song I can play that use this technique .
Say by John Mayer Capo 8 fret D G A and D G Bm A for the verse.
The Chain and gold dust woman Fleetwood Mac yeah banjo licks on a guitar sound cool.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRrNW9XTctc&playnext=1&videos=lJRK4GvRXcA
 
I go to the hospital every Wednesday, it sucks but I get to go to the music stores after.
I played stuff , but something got my attention.
It was the List
The list is a list of the Top 100 song a father wished to share with his daughter who was playing Rock and roll at the Time
The Father is the late great man in black Johnny Cash


His daughter
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-bialas/rosanne-cashs-ithe-listi_b_311189.html

The list
http://www.folkworks.org/content/view/36223/3176/

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 12, 2010, 05:41:07 pm
I've tried learning 2 songs but I figured both would be a bit too much to learn. So I'll find something else and do the other two later.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 12, 2010, 10:46:37 pm
I can play, there are some people Chet Atkins is one, I can tell it would take too many hours to play it his way, so I play it mine.
Cue seems you like people like that ANDY can't spell the bald dude who tunes open tuning to just be able to do it right,
It kind of cool I have stopped doing it but I just got a spider Capo it is pretty cool wanted to do the cold play mad song 'with this capo you can play it without retuning.
It is very cool if you have enough guitars one should be tuned to open G
You can play the rain song without this tuning, but it is easier in G.
It has too have a great melody for me, Tom Petty was great at making these melodies they just stuck in you head, I just had some ladies came by they know I play, they want to hear a Tom Petty tune I was amazed I had not played some of these song in year, should they are great song.
I did free falling, but I did it like John Mayer did it.
I play first chord in Hotel California I just spoke the words.
These are young girls so they did not really get it .
In fact I played one chord and ask them to guess the song they said whiskey lullaby, it was a minor chord, she not a musician but can hear the minor in the chord .
that came next, both girls cried , I learn it last night.
Whiskey Lullaby, great song.
Soul sister the same progression 1 4 6 5 but whiskey changes the key and start with the natural minor mode same chord play both songs and a many more Like Say by John Mayer.
I try to give easier songs here plus many are songs people just want to hear.
At some point what I wanted too play was what people wanted to hear played.
Which has not changed many band do a song called simple man I can only learn the one that have a melody that with stick in my brain.
We all can't like the same stuff but a song like Say what you need to say.
like tears in heaven kind of hard to forget.
Once again thank for sharing songs , if it has a great melody I can play it, or at least fake it
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 13, 2010, 12:35:39 am
I like Chet Atkins. I like Doyle Dykes too (also a country fingerstylist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mwFA56dKP8).
Andy isn't really bald anymore, but he tunes to play voicings otherwise not possible. I also have a spider and it is ENTIRELY different fromm retuning. Not a fan of open G, but I like DADGAD. Free Falllin' is awesome, John Mayer's version is also OK but he just doesn't capture that feeling that Petty had in it.
Isn't the first chord of Hotel Calif a Bm?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 13, 2010, 02:44:03 am
[=Cue Zephyr
I like Chet Atkins. I like Doyle Dykes too (also a country fingerstylist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mwFA56dKP8).
Andy isn't really bald anymore, but he tunes to play voicings otherwise not possible. I also have a spider and it is ENTIRELY different fromm retuning. Not a fan of open G, but I like DADGAD. Free Falllin' is awesome, John Mayer's version is also OK but he just doesn't capture that feeling that Petty had in it.
Isn't the first chord of Hotel Calif a Bm?

Man
 That Doyle can play, Do you know who made his guitar???
 That song made the top 100 of Johnny Cash.
So I am a fan of his as well, i had to break out the Les Paul to get that G harmonic stuff going.
Some good picking.
I would have to agree with you about the Petty stuff, I do really like John Version.
But it,s the singing ,you can tell Petty is giving it his all.
Say and Waiting are my favorite Mayer tunes.
Mayer can write really good, every time he plays a lead I hear SRV,
Which is not a bad thing.
Yes Hotel California  is in B minor, it was written by Don Feilder can't spell dagxxxxxxxxgumit.
It was wrote in the fey of A minor and had the name Mexican Reggae.
Capo is at the 7 fret.
Whiskey lullaby  also in B minor capo 2 FRET.
I have used the spider only a few minutes, it does what I want it to do I can raise just the b and e to play some of these cold play song that give the guitar that sus sound and you could make a G chord and play stuff in G .
I don't play the B in a G too much.

I think you would dig Thom Bresh he is the bastard son of Merle Travis.
That's his words not mine, since he looked like Merle and he could out play Merle and he had a Martin like his Daddy.
I love Leo Fender, but the shape of the strats neck was got from Merle's Guitar .
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 13, 2010, 01:01:42 pm
Doyle Dykes has a Taylor DDSM.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 13, 2010, 03:56:29 pm
Thank Cue
I will have to wait to see if my will do the harmonic's.
I did better with the Les Paul , may have to look for me a DDSM.
LOL
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 14, 2010, 02:35:23 am
I wouldn't mind having a DDSM. Although I probably won't like it as much... Sitka and maple is probably the last I'd want (lacking low end). Now koa would be better. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 14, 2010, 06:33:26 am
Having a wonderful time just finger tapping and trying to find out where  to incorporate into songs.   I really love this technique and am getting quite addicted to it.  Dont' think I will sound as perfect as EVH
 soon but it's sounds amazing especially since the family doesn't want to listen to it and I have head phones.  What an amazing technique to learn.  My fingers are getting quite quickto the new genre.  (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/crazy/071.gif)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 14, 2010, 12:55:37 pm
Tapping?


Haha, that's funny, I was just playing Drifting. xD
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 14, 2010, 04:32:51 pm
Great old song, as fast as he plays it the rest or pauses which make this style so cool.
Yeah the pauses are short like off beat too.
 Justin’s rhythm probably don’t cover this rhythm.
Find yourself a picker friend and play away the blues.
I been finger style all week, but these men need no finger just a pick and a box with strings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JFgC3Ub10E
A  Old Martin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_YB9SC7AV4&feature=related
 Three Guitar are better than one the D 16 has the even  tone, not a lot of over tone just a pure sound Like my D- 18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Ck_aBaukg&feature=related
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on August 18, 2010, 08:19:24 pm
well since I got back from hols I've been spending a bit of time re-developing some callouses ...

the hotel in Spain had a pool plus a 'relax room' with jacuzzi, sauna & steam room, the bedroom had an en-suite with bath & shower etc etc .... so basically 3 showers a day (morning, siesta time and evening) plus some swimming and some water-therapy = very soft fingers

anyway ..

I've been:
re-visiting blues improv and going through minor pentatonic shapes up and down the neck in several keys,

re-visiting the first 10 lessons and study pices from Blues You Can Use,

learning to play Nothing Else Matters - trying to incorporate several guitar parts and getting the timing right in using my foot-pedal to change tone (I haven't really done much of that yet),

re-visiting the intro and verses of Young Lust (haven't started the solo yet) .... thanks to cambanation for reminding me how great this song is to play

practising Steady Thumb Blues & Gospel Blues from Justin's Solo Blues DVD

working on a few acoustic songs to accompany my wife singing

those fingers are hardening nicely

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 19, 2010, 02:45:30 am
That sounds so nice Mr. Close2u.  Betcha it was soooooooooooooooo ralaxin'

You will be on top of your game in no time at all.  I can hardly wait to hear your nightengale sing again!

I'm learning the strumming for Twist and Shout!  DDDUUUDUDUDU!  It's a loop in my brain now!  It's just tricky changing chords and doing the up strums.  I'm on my game though! 

It's just amazing how ones confidence grows by leaps and bounds when you get those chord progressions down pat!  Mr.C2u I'm still working on Keith's blues lessons and am getting so much out of them.  What a totally different genre the blues is but it's the heartbeat of a lot of different genres. 

I can't forget the tapping!  I'm just loving it.  It makes me sound so amazing but it's so not hard!  I'am trying different techniques with it.  Tapping with my first finger but where do you put that pick?  Xaromir don't say anything! lol  If I were a magician it would be no problem.  Tapping with my 2nd finger I feel terribly uncoordinated and trying to hold the plectrum between my first and 2nd finger.  I feel slightly physically challenged.  My fingers want to seperate.  It's really hard to keep them together as one unit. It sounds unbelievable though!  It's nice to pretend your something when your just not quite there yet!

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 20, 2010, 04:51:14 pm
I'm just practising, not learning anything new, I'm on holiday after all (although I have my travel guitar with me).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 20, 2010, 06:43:46 pm
I totally forgot about a song that I half arsed learn a long time ago and I thought I would relearn it properly.  Black Sabbath's Paranoid.  This song is light years easier now that I have more experience under my belt!  Even the solo is not bad.  I know Mr C2u has it on his Youtube channel so I will be over there to analyze how he plays.  It's so amazing how many different ways there are to play the same thing or if you will OP's versions.

Practicing alternate picking still but I'm improving at least.

I have Heart of Gold and House of the rising sun perfected.  On to Twist and Shout using the barre chords.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: numbpinkies on August 20, 2010, 10:16:49 pm
Patience!

My new loaner guitar has such a better everything, that it's like I have moved on several months in one go.
My fretting over the calluses on my fretting hand is coming to an end.

All I need do now is find some alternative good quality tabbed songs to replace those that are no longer available.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on August 21, 2010, 07:31:14 am
@numbpinkies

check out the 'links' icon on Justin's home page to find suggestions for tab sites

@ licksnkicks

good luck with paranoid - have fun and keep rocking
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 21, 2010, 03:37:55 pm
Hi licks and Group
Man I could use a hot tub just set up the PA .
I have too get smaller speakers take a hand truck to move mine lol or a young strong Steveo
Having a wonderful time just finger tapping and trying to find out where  to incorporate into songs.   I really love this technique and am getting quite addicted to it.  Dont' think I will sound as perfect as EVH
 soon but it's sounds amazing especially since the family doesn't want to listen to it and I have head phones.  What an amazing technique to learn.  My fingers
Hope you are enjoying the new teacher.
here are some cool licks for licks and really anyone who can't do them and even cooler for us who can

A very cool lick using major and minor 3rd as a base

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU6f7Vzieh4


Add the above to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRrNW9XTctc


Flying High again!!! oh no here we go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92uMS2CjJ80

Tapping 101 why do we tap?  how do we know were to tap ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omGmpFOtBJo

Can you Dig  it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EopxzIU1POQ
Enjoy
have a great week end.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: EgyptianGuitarist on August 21, 2010, 09:19:36 pm
Learning can't stop by RHCP. Been playing the guitar for a year now, so this song should be out of my league. But I managed to get all the way through the song. I just need to learn the bridge :D Pretty good for 1 year of experience, eh :D?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on August 22, 2010, 12:33:35 am
I have been promising myself I'll start on Gospel Blues but after 7 months on Steady Thumb blues I'm still not 100% happy with it (a thumb nail might help).

How are you finding it Close?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 22, 2010, 01:14:58 am
Steveo thanks for all the help with the links. 

I really am into the tapping and there's is so many different techniques for tapping.  Right now I'm learning how to tap on a bent string.  This is really friggin' hard.  It sounds really cool though.  I went to the link on the forum in regards to tapping and there doesn't seem to be an overwhelming interest in it.  I don't know why.  This is just too much fun though and I'm pursuing it with a vengeance!  I can't believe all the sites that are dedicated to this one technique though.  They are all of so much help to me though.  I can pick and choose the way I want to tap.  Well sometimes the song does dictate how you must tap.  I need to get my whammy bar out and start to use it as well.  I haven't never attempted to use the whammy bars provided with my Parkers.  I think I will have a go at it tonight.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 22, 2010, 05:54:02 am
You really have to listen to the lesson.
Carl explain the way to teach it to yourself really.
I spent many years playing it.
I don't do it much when I do I enjoy it.
Yeah you need to hit a a harmonic and play the whammy.
I got and old USA Kramer once in tune pretty much stay there until I break a string.
I get the strings slapping the pickup the click that makes sounds like a bad motor scooter changing gears.
One reason it has lost some interest is it hard and if you do it you should like Eddie if you do it right lol
The new tapper are more like Stanley Jordan the are still areas a person can go with that tapping but it is hard.
I am more likely to use the pick chime technic like Eric Johnson and many jazz and finger style people.
Got my locks trimmed long time ago 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 22, 2010, 06:17:15 am
Hey Steveo could you give me one of your links to this Eric Johnson dude.  Coincidentally my "new" teachers name is Eric Johnson.  He played abands Moxy and King Biscuit boy in the 70's and 80's.  I'm  wondering if that's the same dude.



Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 22, 2010, 06:35:35 am
When you want to emulate someone like EVH's playing style, it's way beyond complicated at least to me.  That's a large percentage of my guitar journey.  I have my new teacher to help me though.  My first lesson on Tuesday and I will make sure that he knows that I need to learn to play in the stylings of EVH.   Each to there own though.  Some people will say, why do you want to learn his way of playing and I say that could be a catalyst for something bigger and better.  Who knows though.  Your able to absorb concepts better when you actually like what you are doing.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 22, 2010, 01:39:08 pm
Hi licks
I have sent you the only link I would want to know.
Carl is the best teacher to me, his site has many free lesson .
I am a pay member, go and look at his songs list for 5 bucks he spoon feeds you Eric Johnson.
I don't even use this I support his site cause I know what lesson cost and a teacher like him gets over a hundred a hour, I can't crank my truck for 5 bucks.
His whole site is really metal heaven just started getting more jazz and other songs.
Accept for his SRV stuff,which is good.
Just check out his site it is very easy .
Lesson Archives is at the top click that first them choose most of what you are looking to do will be in the intermediate section OR ADVANCED
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on August 25, 2010, 01:21:32 pm
  Today's an open tuning day for me!
  Practicing She Talks To Angels, and I'm gonna then check out From Katie's Window. First time I heard it, I said:" I have to learn that." ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: gareth51 on August 25, 2010, 01:45:13 pm
Learning some jazzy blues in C minor.  It feels weird playing in a different key as I always seem to pick A major or minor blues backing tracks as all of Justin's blues course used A minor pent.    The concepts are simple, but putting them into practice is hard. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 25, 2010, 03:24:02 pm
licksnkicks link
Hey Steveo could you give me one of your links to this Eric Johnson dude.  Coincidentally my "new" teachers name is Eric Johnson.  He played abands Moxy and King Biscuit boy in the 70's and 80's.  I'm  wondering if that's the same dude.

I bet it took me many months to play eruption, I can't learn stuff that way now.
If I really suck at something like slide, I can play it open tuned better but i SUCK compared to others who don't suck.
You have to play a little every day to play some things as a younger person I hand a guitar in my hand, I could eat with one hand and play legato with my left hand.
I am sure if you took a song called cliffs of dover to your new teacher.
He should look happy it is a happy song.
He may know how to play it , I can play it and my name is not Eric Johnson lol.
The link I get you to Carls site should help you, many free lessons there.
Click Lesson archives at the top then click on the lesson you want , if you have to scroll you have click the wrong button.
Every thing to play leads is there and is free.
I like Eric many his tone and he play many note but they seem to fit the song he never seems to say I am going to play a bunch which is slag for very many of note just to do it, seem most players even myself wish to play as fast as i can , Eric Johnson as fast as he plays he could play faster he just don't want to lol.
I am still having my finger style study's and a few Stevie Wonder songs are giving me hell trying to sing and play at the same time .

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: strapp75 on August 25, 2010, 05:17:41 pm
I'm learning "don't cry" by G'n'R with the help of the Lick Library DVD. I now i should try to transcribe this song but....well, you know.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: aging_bimbo on August 26, 2010, 04:15:47 pm
Have been learning some acoustic fingerstyle blues stuff with my new(ish) teacher and feeling like making progress after a very long-lasting plateau. Now with new hollow-body electric today learnt a one-bar Chet atkins picking pattern that will take me at least a week to get firmly embedded in muscle memory and up to speed - then I'll have to learn another. (Trouble I have is when I learn a new pattern it tends to overwite the one I learnt just before!)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 26, 2010, 04:25:25 pm
Man I love Finger style.I wish to get better.
I play pretty much with my finger all the time.
if any one finds good finger style stuff free please add them to my Finger style thread in the links section
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 26, 2010, 09:52:59 pm
Steveo my teachers' name is Earl Johnson not Eric! 

Learning about Anvil an iconic Canadian Metal band whose career has been revived because of a rockumentary by the same name and I'm learning the Beatles While my guitar gently weeps.  Not really that hard now just to get the barre chords sounding fluid.  Sounds really nice though. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 26, 2010, 10:02:52 pm
Re-fitting my saddle. I could only yank it out with the string cutter which is very bad... slimming it down with a nail file haha.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on August 26, 2010, 10:59:36 pm
...slimming it down with a nail file haha.
Now, now, it doesn't matter how it looks on the outside, it's what inside that counts. ;)
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 26, 2010, 11:09:16 pm
Lol, what?! :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on August 26, 2010, 11:13:42 pm
  It's something that I saw in the Power Rangers when I was 7 or 8. Meant as a joke. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 26, 2010, 11:16:59 pm
It's contoured on the outside, bone on the inside... like that? xD
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on August 26, 2010, 11:20:29 pm
 Just see this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uOPl_QiwoU).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 26, 2010, 11:22:28 pm
I'm too impatient to watch that, I've almost filed out the contour for the B-compensation which wasn't very pronounced at first when I got it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 27, 2010, 12:46:24 am
Still my Guitar man that's a good one
I have it as a Dorian base song key of G but play and think A minor
The Chorus is the key of A major I think.
I play it with a few bar chords in about half the chord in the verse the bass note is different, or the chords are inverted.
 I love this band the last two songs are very pretty progression.
You don’t have to be pretty just play pretty
take it easy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44_rtJxPg0s&NR=1

You can just speak these words and it the carry this song The Last Resort
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abbk6GRFK1A

Wasted Time is the songs title but it is worth the time to learn
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcKfnfz4b-Y&feature=related
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 30, 2010, 02:17:00 pm
Practicing my vibrato technique.  This is really hard.  Sometimes I can get it right and others I feel so physically challenged.

When I stop to think about it then my hands stops.  How do you not think about what you are doing?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 30, 2010, 02:23:07 pm
I found it really hard learning vibrato too, but I just kept trying to incorporate it in a song (Ebon Coast - Andy uses some very well executed vibrato in some very well chosen places in the composition) and at some point it was just a part of the song. Now, everytime I play lead lines (which I still suck at), I will use vibrato auomatically, on longer sustained notes.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on August 30, 2010, 02:29:18 pm
Practicing my vibrato technique.  This is really hard.  Sometimes I can get it right and others I feel so physically challenged.

When I stop to think about it then my hands stops.  How do you not think about what you are doing?
  That's the tricky thing in vibrato sometimes you just gotta feel it. But I think practicing it daily for 10 minutes is a good alternative. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: gareth51 on August 30, 2010, 04:31:32 pm
I am trying to transcribe the solo from We Will Rock You by Queen.  I am having a few problems with it but surprisingly there doesn't seem to be any decent tabs online, so I will persevere.   
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 30, 2010, 04:51:39 pm
I'm trying to solo over random songs. Basically just 8th note patterns without actually knowing in which key I'm playing or which scale/positionn I'm using... It's actually quite fun.

And I want a mandolin.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 30, 2010, 05:16:46 pm
GEt rhythm Johnny Cash, really fun and easy song.
Coffee may help the Vibrato LOL
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 30, 2010, 09:43:54 pm
I can't find one damned strumming pattern for While my guitar gently weeps.  I guess I will have to watch the original by George and Eric and take it from there.  Forget that I will just ask my teacher tomorrow night.  He should know.  Brilliant idea.  I'm too lazy right now.  This heat is incredible. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 30, 2010, 09:47:03 pm
Strumming? While My Guitar Gently Weeps?
Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k
Ok, it's a uke, but it still belongs in the guitar family.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 31, 2010, 02:55:51 am
I Still hear six in my head but it is clear I am blind the song here is played straight 4/4    I think the six comes from me accenting notes in this case I am dragging them chords along Still my GUITAR weeps.
I met Jeff we hung out, I just meet the guy, I ask him has he seen any good movies lately, we both laughed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJh3KaIKDAw&feature=related
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on August 31, 2010, 03:16:52 am
Okie dokie Steveo I will check it out.  I have worked it out though into a nice sounding piece with the first two strumms D D for the base note and then playing the G B and E string. This sounds really beautiful but I will check your strumming pattern out.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on August 31, 2010, 04:17:20 am
Good tune Cue may Dig his tuning .
licks use the link I sent you with Clapton and the all star cast .
You should hear that six count it clearly there.
It a cool rhythm, the little Asian dude play that thang.
I was going to say a slotted head give a better sound and you can really tell it in cues crazy link the guy is good I will keep my guitar the tuning on all those four string things are fifths so you heard what he did with that A minor

Man I wish I had a band I would take his bassist any day the boy has a great band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b26wu3Ms34M
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on August 31, 2010, 11:36:13 am
  OK, I've learned the chords to Lyin' Eyes a long time ago(around my lessons with a guitar teacher, who used to work out a couple songs with me). So anyway, I've had the Go Play Along With The Eagles for about a year, and I had this brilliant idea to transcribe the solo parts(from the backing tracks; as the guitar in the original is quite hidden), and check my work from the tab later. But there a load of other songs that I like in that songbook, so I might do it again. :)

  EDIT: I've just remembered I'm supposed to be transcribing Brothers in Arms! So, gonna add it to ever growing list of Songs To Transcribe. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on August 31, 2010, 10:50:12 pm
Learning to add little fiddly bits to spice up my rhythm playing on the acoustic, as well as using barre chords to alter the voicings which sounds really fun.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 01, 2010, 03:29:47 am
Went to my lesson tonight and realized I'm my own worst enemy.  If anybody will hold me back it will be me and only me.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 01, 2010, 03:45:11 am
Yeah I think I will learn most all the Eagle song .
I have about 30 of there songs but with the sheet music I play the rest .
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on September 01, 2010, 02:55:10 pm
I'm having a go at 74 75 by the Connells. I heard it on the car radio the other day and promptly decided to get it and learn it. Haven't heard that song for the past 10 years I think, but  still it really sounded great.

Now - working out a strumming pattern that fits with the chord changes is difficult. I have watched lessons on YouTube (none too great I'd say) and scavenged tabs off the Internet, but I'm still no closer to that elusive strumming pattern (or patterns probably). I can't mentally build a pattern from listening to it either. Which makes it clear to me (again) how great Justin's lessons are. He'll make such things crystal clear, and throw in some hints and tips that makes a song far easier to play. Oh well. We're supposed to be able to do that on our own as well I guess, so I won't nag (even if I just did? Nevermind).

Also I see a business trip to the U.S. coming up, probably in October. That seems to be an excellent opportunity to shop for an electric guitar. Any shop recommendations in the Houston TX area? (I'm going to GuitarCenter on Westheimer, any other suggestions that are not immediately apparent from Google ?)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 01, 2010, 03:30:23 pm
What are you looking for a hollow body, semi or solid body?

What are you looking to spend?

What kind of music do you like to play?

Just some questions so I can get a better understanding of what I might suggest for you.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on September 01, 2010, 04:15:57 pm
I'm thinking of a Fender Telecaster. For playability and quality, but also for the rock'n roll legends attached to it. I want both the guitar and the symbol if you know what I mean. Pricewise up to $1000 or so? So there are plenty of obvious choices. If anyone has suggestions to any non obvious choices  :)  ?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 01, 2010, 05:44:34 pm
Guess I'm biased and I know you want a tele but why not a strat? 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on September 01, 2010, 06:05:52 pm
Well, a strat is not out of the question by any means, but I like the look of the tele. Also the tremolo fitted to most (all ?) strats is not something that I feel that I need. As an engineer by profession (and conviction  ;) ) I am very wary of unneccessary moving parts. Things that may cause problems without providing benefit - I just don't like them.
(maybe we're in the wrong thread now, seeing the direction this conversation is taking. But what the hey. we're just chatting.... )
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 01, 2010, 06:14:35 pm
I'm having a go at 74 75 by the Connells. I heard it on the car radio the other day and promptly decided to get it and learn it. Haven't heard that song for the past 10 years I think, but  still it really sounded great.

Now - working out a strumming pattern that fits with the chord changes is difficult. I have watched lessons on YouTube (none too great I'd say) and scavenged tabs off the Internet, but I'm still no closer to that elusive strumming pattern (or patterns probably). I can't mentally build a pattern from listening to it either. Which makes it clear to me (again) how great Justin's lessons are. He'll make such things crystal clear, and throw in some hints and tips that makes a song far easier to play. Oh well. We're supposed to be able to do that on our own as well I guess, so I won't nag (even if I just did? Nevermind).

Also I see a business trip to the U.S. coming up, probably in October. That seems to be an excellent opportunity to shop for an electric guitar. Any shop recommendations in the Houston TX area? (I'm going to GuitarCenter on Westheimer, any other suggestions that are not immediately apparent from Google ?)

I LOVE that song! It's what taught me the F chord! I still want to do a cover of this song too.
I use a very odd and variating strumming pattern. I could write mine out if you want (would enjoy it too).

And +1 for wanting a Tele!
I'm pretty interested in the Thinline, but I still have yet to try some Teles. Maybe next time at the guitar store...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: old-and-in-the-way on September 01, 2010, 06:30:37 pm
Levellers (http://www.levellers.co.uk) - Cardboard Box City (http://www.levellers.co.uk/www/en/shop/mp3_overview/?pid=80).  Aided and abetted by the chord sheets they publish on their website (http://www.levellers.co.uk/www/en/music/), and a stack of videos of Simon Friend performing it live on youtube.


I won't be singing or anything, though.  My voice makes my own ears bleed, so I won't inflict it on anyone else.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on September 01, 2010, 06:31:48 pm
Thanks Cue, would really appreciate that. I'm sort of managing the parts where there's a chord change every second beat, but switching between that pattern and something that fits a whole bar - on the same chord - has my fingers in knots.

And it sure is a workout for the F chord (which I'm finally able to do consistently - even without looking at my left hand  :P ).
Do you use the bar G or open G ? And is it advantageous to do the C as an (A shape) bar chord as well? (maybe on the G, not on the C is my evaluation of that so far)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 01, 2010, 06:47:20 pm
Going from F to G the G barre chord would be useful but I only play F as a barre chord. If you want some variance in your voicing I say go ahead and try and see what works.

This is kind of how I strum it (it looks kind of dumb, I know).
You have to mess around a bit with the accentuations, though.
F        C
D-D-DUDU-UDUDUDU
F       C   G
D-D-DUDUD-DUD-DU

repeat first part, then do that Am/Asus2 jingle

And in the last verse I always try to do that F jingle, on the F shape played as xx3213
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 01, 2010, 09:24:56 pm
  Reached the solo after the third verse of Brothers in Arms. Doing well so far, easy licks, but hard to get just right. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on September 01, 2010, 09:27:22 pm
hey I'd like to hear that zkash
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 01, 2010, 09:49:20 pm
  Maybe tomorrow Close, a bit late here, and my mom would surely come out screaming her head off that I should keep my amp volume down!  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 01, 2010, 11:27:52 pm
I'm trying to learn palm muting.  Does Justin have a vid on this?  I have looked on advance search and can't find anything.  Or maybe if someone could help me.  Please!  I'm having trouble keeping even pressure on the strings across the board.  When I go to do a strum the right part of my palm slightly lifts up and only the bottom strings E A D G are muted and I get this ringing on the B and high E strings.  Is this just a matter of practice?

question #2

How can I fit the Aeolian scale together with the minor pentatonic to make a cool sounding riff? I know that the Aeolian scale is the natural minor scale with no sharps or flats. The minor Pentatonic containing the b3rd and the b7th.  Do I figure out what they have in common and take it from there?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 02, 2010, 12:05:45 am
Licks,

I had this same problem too, but now I kind of made sure when my fingers go up to strum my palm (or the side of it at least) kind of drags along over the strings so they stay muted.

The natural minor scale has flats, because it's the natural minor - it has: b3, b6 and b7
So: C D E F G A B is the Ionian (major), then Aeolian (n minor) will be: C D Eb F G Ab Bb. The minor pentatonic leaves out the 2nd and the b6 (I think?). Major pentatonic leaves out the 4th and 7th if I'm not mistaken.

Edit: I might be wrong, I don't do scales because I still can't make myself do it. I will do theory, though.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: irishalkies on September 02, 2010, 12:07:34 am
Try this for palm muting Licks. Forward to about 25 mins to avoid the random chat.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4471605



Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 02, 2010, 01:30:51 am
Having another look at Stairway to Heaven.

Yes, the solo. I never learnt it completely... let's see how much of it I can still recall.

What, on acoustic?

Yeah. :P

Does it work?

Not past the 14th fret... LOL.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 02, 2010, 01:55:11 am
Try this for palm muting Licks. Forward to about 25 mins to avoid the random chat.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4471605





Thanks Irish but it's finger percusive style not really palm muting.  Thanks anyhow!  I quite enjoyed the Ustream program.  I should be watching this all the time!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: irishalkies on September 02, 2010, 02:03:49 am
Try this for palm muting Licks. Forward to about 25 mins to avoid the random chat.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4471605





Thanks Irish but it's finger percusive style not really palm muting.  Thanks anyhow!  I quite enjoyed the Ustream program.  I should be watching this all the time!

Ah. Ok. I should of known. You'll be playing electric on your Parker!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 02, 2010, 02:05:47 am
That percussive fingerstyle is a big part of my style. Two of my arrangements are based around it.

You probably have seen this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJO5vYO4_8I) already? I like it on the acoustic.

I love how Antoine Dufour uses it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlExaU0WOhY#t=2m23s
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 02, 2010, 03:20:26 am
Thanks Cue so much for linking me to Justins vid.  I did an advanced search on the forum and it didn't come up with anything.  I wonder why!?!  I'm going to go watch this and then practice.

Update:  just watched it and I just guess it comes down to practice.  Practiced for about 1 1/2 hours and now my right shoulder is causing me a lot of discomfort.  I don't know what I'm doing wrong. 

While checking out Justins other vids relate to this I came across this guy and he's absolutely incredible and amazing to watch and listen and yup he's playing on a Parker.  What do you think of this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/user/KristoferDahl?v=VEINSGZLjLs&feature=pyv&ad=5018822567&kw=guitar&gclid=CMOGw5zd56MCFaTY5wodBnNI3Q
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 02, 2010, 02:06:29 pm
When I palm mute lets say the low E A D do I slightly flatten my hand and then rotate from the wrist joint slightly up to get the G B E strings?  It's hard to do a chord and it sounds like crap. I really have to rotate from the wrist to do this. My shoulder hurts today. I'm definitely not doing this right!  Do I slightly move the heel of the hand up or down on the bridge depending on what strings I want muted?  This is supposed to be not that hard and it's getting to be more like rocket science.  Another prob is the volume control on my Parker is directly in front of my baby finger when I extend my fingers so I can do this technique.  Should I curl my finger around the knob or leave it just extended?
I really suck at this. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on September 02, 2010, 07:38:52 pm
...
question #2

How can I fit the Aeolian scale together with the minor pentatonic to make a cool sounding riff? I know that the Aeolian scale is the natural minor scale with no sharps or flats. The minor Pentatonic containing the b3rd and the b7th.  Do I figure out what they have in common and take it from there?

licks ... are you getting ahead of yourself again??  now you know what that can lead to !!   ::)

just saying   :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 02, 2010, 08:15:01 pm
  Yes! Finished transcribing the main parts of Brothers in Arms, the ending solo is usually improvised, but I learned a few of the licks he uses to remind people he's playing Brothers in Arms(see the first couple of minutes of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MP6ilQ_2tI) video). Might record today, or tomorrow, depends. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 02, 2010, 08:41:42 pm
Good job, zkash. I'd say have a month of practice and then record it. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 02, 2010, 08:50:34 pm
Licks,

I had this same problem too, but now I kind of made sure when my fingers go up to strum my palm (or the side of it at least) kind of drags along over the strings so they stay muted.

The natural minor scale has flats, because it's the natural minor - it has: b3, b6 and b7
So: C D E F G A B is the Ionian (major), then Aeolian (n minor) will be: C D Eb F G Ab Bb. The minor pentatonic leaves out the 2nd and the b6 (I think?). Major pentatonic leaves out the 4th and 7th if I'm not mistaken.

Edit: I might be wrong, I don't do scales because I still can't make myself do it. I will do theory, though.

You are 100% correct Cue and I was wrong.  (holds head in hands and mutters a few choice words)  Too many friggin blonde moments lately.  What was I thinking the the Aeolian scale had no sharps and flats.  It is after all a minor scale.  Thanks a heap for your help and steering me in the right direction!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 02, 2010, 09:12:27 pm
Good job, zkash. I'd say have a month of practice and then record it. ;)
  Actually, I've been playing along with it, and improvising it, so it's like to be more of a rendition. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 02, 2010, 09:46:38 pm
Licks,

Glad I could help. ;)

zkash,

Then I'll say just go for it! :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 02, 2010, 10:03:07 pm
  Alright. Laid out a basic plan.
  Tonight: Acoustic Guitar.
  Tomorrow: Electric Guitar. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on September 02, 2010, 10:07:52 pm
F        C
D-D-DUDU-UDUDUDU
F       C   G
D-D-DUDUD-DUD-DU

repeat first part, then do that Am/Asus2 jingle
Thanks for the strumming pattern Cue. It has more downstrokes than what I used to do, This helps me with the timing of the chord progression. My pattern probably won't be exactly like yours in the end, but it helped me smooth out the progression. I can now do it pretty well to a metronome. Cheers mate  ;D
3-4 weeks of practice now; it might become bearable.
It's the most challenging song I've attempted so far, but they need to be challenging, don't they? If I try an easy one, I tend to lose interest before I've gotten it smooth. Even if it's a good tune.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 02, 2010, 10:30:06 pm
zkash,

Excellent plan, although my acoustic would make quite a bit of 'noise' as well. :P

Gandsfjord,

Glad I could help, mate! I found that very quick change from C to F to be quite tricky, at least with the full barre F.
If you want that picking pattern for the F near the end of the song I could write that one out for you too if you'd like.
Doesn't have to be exactly the same btw, if you think it sounds good, then it is good.

Songs indeed have to be challenging to some degree, but not too much either! I once chose an Andy McKee song which I learnt in about 3 days and just completely lost interest because it was easy and I couldn't finger the barre chords on my guitar (heck, even Andy gets buzz!). On the other hand, I wanted to try a Michael Hedges song the other day and it was SO tough I couldn't continue anymore. Maybe in a couple of months I'll have another crack at it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 03, 2010, 07:19:24 am
Isn't this just so stupid.  Sitting here on my laptop holding the side of my right palm down like I'm palm muting.  I tell ya it's getting to me.

Learning how to combine the licks of an Aeolian Scale with the A minor Pentatonic and it sounds pretty cool.  Even cooler when I got out my whammy bar.  I didn't even have to tune my guitar after this thanks to the locking tuning pegs.  Yes I love my Parkers!!  Yes I do!  When I die I want to be buried with them! lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 03, 2010, 01:16:23 pm
I wonder what happened to Michael's D-28 after he died..?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 03, 2010, 05:00:27 pm
[=licksnkicks link
Isn't this just so stupid.  Sitting here on my laptop holding the side of my right palm down like I'm palm muting.  I tell ya it's getting to me.

Learning how to combine the licks of an Aeolian Scale with the A minor Pentatonic and it sounds pretty cool.  Even cooler when I got out my whammy bar.  I didn't even have to tune my guitar after this thanks to the locking tuning pegs.  Yes I love my Parkers!!  Yes I do!  When I die I want to be buried with them! lol
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I guess you will talk about relative minor.
Cool stuff.
I hope some body plays Mitchell guitars, a very lucky person.
It is funny how you run across stuff that is very advanced or new and you walk away then in a little while it kind of comes to you.
These are monster players
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 03, 2010, 06:41:34 pm
You guys know that I have been working on my vibrato technique so I think I almost have it under wraps.  How when I do a wide vibrato to I prevent the two adjacent strings from ringing out? 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 03, 2010, 07:03:56 pm
When doing a wide vibrator techniqe my finger just kind of glides over or gently pushes away the adjacent strings but does not grab onto them (important, because if you release they will ring out).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 03, 2010, 11:05:54 pm
When doing a wide vibrator technique

Oopsie a spelliing mistake?  V i b r a t o you mean!  lol

Will give that a go.  Thanks again Cue.

How long did it take you to find the "sweet" spot for your palm muting. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 04, 2010, 02:00:28 am
No problem!
Ye think..? Come on, you know me by now... :P


That's a good question. I started realizing how useful palm muting was when having a crack at Save Tonight. I couldn't make it work back then but gradually, trying it here and there it started getting better. It wasn't really a technique I was really focusing on, more something that had to come along with the package. ;)
Now I like to use palm muting while picking out notes with my fingers. It's very tricky but it sounds great (inspired by Antoine Dufour's song 'Mother').
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 04, 2010, 05:31:30 am
Ya I sorta know ya by now.  I know three things about you for sure!  One being that your extremely helpful.  Two, your courteous and three your just an all round nice guy who loves Taylor Swift.  Well actually 4 things. 

My prob is that once I get going on the muting I just can't find that sweet spot.  The notes on the low E A D sound great but when I go to play the G B E strings they sound just too muted and I can't regulate the pressure.  I really hate palm muting.  It sucks big time but it is a necessary evil.  I have these two licks, A minor Aeolian mixed with the A minor pentatonic and two tone bends in there and I can't get it to sound consistent because of palm muting.  These are definitely in the genre of rock n' roll so on my amp I have the gain turned up to 1/2 and I have it on a crunch channel.  Really edgy and rock n' rollish but without the palm muting there is too much ringing out on the strings.  It sucks cuz I know this is just a matter of time but I so want to sound excellent this very second. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: andreh on September 04, 2010, 08:49:44 am
Wel, i guess i just learned seek and destroy, except the solo. It's almost 5am and i should get some sleep, but i can't get the guitar out of my lap! Just wanna keep on playing
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 04, 2010, 11:31:30 am
Yeah this technique kind of hard to explain, I think Cue said the main technique, I have seen guys , myself included who just bare with the first finger we are playing to fast to mute the string by string.
Crazy intervals you will find  in this way as well
Hendrix did it with his big ass thumb.
This with the right hand stuff will just work it self out, I am sure I had lessons on these techniques.
Cues I just pick up o way before I had money for lessons, I make a bad sound how do I stop it use a finger to just push it out of the way, I know it is way easier to say then do, you will get it 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 05, 2010, 04:23:07 pm
The muting of a chord on the upstrum.  My palm lifts and then the chord rings out.  Help I need another palm.  What do you do with the mute on the upstrum?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 05, 2010, 05:15:14 pm
=licksnkicks link
The muting of a chord on the upstrum.  My palm lifts and then the chord rings out.  Help I need another palm.  What do you do with the mute on the upstrum?
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I think the word for this is call chucking mean lifting the finger on left hand for just that beat and pushing them back down .
I could be wrong chucking is what they called it when I was a young man.
I love young people.
Chuck or cluck is the sound you wish to make.
Up chuck is what you do when you drink too much.
Take funk 49 to your teacher or long train running him.
He should be able to play those or look them up lot of chucking things up here.
Chucked up in music is not the same as Funked up but you have to chuck to funk as well so this is one you will need.
Rock on
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 05, 2010, 05:18:50 pm
  Been looking for a proper backing track for brothers in arms, the I stumble across this one (http://www.licklibrary.com/jamtrax/dire-straits/29/brothers-in-arms#Top). But I don't know how to download it. Help anyone? ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 05, 2010, 05:38:22 pm
The muting of a chord on the upstrum.  My palm lifts and then the chord rings out.  Help I need another palm.  What do you do with the mute on the upstrum?

I just let them ring out - I like it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 05, 2010, 07:23:40 pm
  Been looking for a proper backing track for brothers in arms, the I stumble across this one (http://www.licklibrary.com/jamtrax/dire-straits/29/brothers-in-arms#Top). But I don't know how to download it. Help anyone? ;)

Here is a different backing track.  Don't know if it helps any!

http://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/play/dire_straits/brothers_in_arms.htm

If no one has come to your rescue and you can wait a couple of hours I will get son
#1 the IT go to guy to help you.   I'm a technotard and wish I could help you out.  I guess we will both learn how to do this.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 05, 2010, 07:25:24 pm
  Ah, I'll just use that one. Not bad, but starts a bit late. No need to wake your son up Licks. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 05, 2010, 07:26:09 pm
Technotard or no-tech tard?
Anyhow. I've laid off the fingerstyle and now playing with a pick.
1mm pick, at the least!
Sure feels different and still very awkward with the next to no accuracy with it...

So, no Tony Rice for me for a long time, maybe never.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 05, 2010, 07:49:00 pm
  Ah, I'll just use that one. Not bad, but starts a bit late. No need to wake your son up Licks. ;)

I wasn't going to wake him up as he is at work!  I will find out for the both of us how to download though.  I really need to get off my lazy butt and learn stuff.  Just one prob though my son has no patience for me because I don't learn quickly enuff and have to be shown how to do something on the computer numerous times. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 05, 2010, 07:57:08 pm
  Ah sorry! I just remembered a post you made that you'd wake him up to view a picture! ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 05, 2010, 08:24:51 pm
Licks,

It's not just your butt that's lazy, but everything else that's attached to it!

You could always loop your output back into the input and record it that way...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Scooter Trash on September 05, 2010, 09:30:13 pm
 Been looking for a proper backing track for brothers in arms, the I stumble across this one (http://www.licklibrary.com/jamtrax/dire-straits/29/brothers-in-arms#Top). But I don't know how to download it. Help anyone? ;)

I think that if you plugged your output back into your input you'd just end up with a nasty sounding feedback loop?

If you don't have a recording utility to record the backing track while it plays, and you're using a Windows operating system you can just use sound recorder to record the track while it plays.

In your programs under "accessories" "entertainment" open the sound recorder.
Follow theese steps to make a blank recording long enough to record the track:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/82215 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/82215) (or just open a long .WAV file with sound recorder and record over it, and then save the recording with a different name when you finish recording.)
In the recorder uinder "edit" "properties" make sure your sound card is selected as the recording device
Then just click the record button and play the track.
When you finish recording save the file to your desktop and then you can play it from your desktop, or import it into a digital studio track.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 05, 2010, 10:24:37 pm
ST, that's basically what I said. :P
The sound that goes OUT, goes back IN, and that gets recorded. Now if it went back out again you'd indeed get a nasty feedback loop!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 05, 2010, 11:05:00 pm
Ah, I'll just use that one. Not bad, but starts a bit late. No need to wake your son up Licks. ;)
  Um, did you read that?  :D

  I'm pretty fine with it, it's good backing track. Thanks anyway. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Scooter Trash on September 05, 2010, 11:06:10 pm
Yeah, as long as your app isn't configured so that you can hear the input at the output you should be OK.. Sorry if I misunderstood CZ.
BTW, that backing track is Flash media Zcash. You could also use Replay Media Catcher (http://www.applian.com/download-videos/) to save it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Scooter Trash on September 05, 2010, 11:09:04 pm
Ah, I'll just use that one. Not bad, but starts a bit late. No need to wake your son up Licks. ;)
  Um, did you read that?  :D

  I'm pretty fine with it, it's good backing track. Thanks anyway. :)

I think I need more coffee  :-\
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 06, 2010, 02:05:32 pm
Well Cue at least you got a pick, Tony Rice is who got me my old turtle pick guard.
Blue grass can't be learned over night.
I say the same things I will never be that good, just take a good teacher and time.
http://www.youtube.com/user/snoffess
This kid has the same teacher as me, and he is really young and can play his Ass off.
Lesson cost money for really good one.
I tried to give away these lessons almost I have all of doug lesson for the past two years he is a bad ass player and a crazy teacher but doors will open.
I will be playing in circles for the rest of your life but at least it is a circle that sounds like this kid
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 06, 2010, 02:51:17 pm
Crosspicking is fun.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 06, 2010, 07:18:40 pm
  Uploaded my cover of Brothers in Arms, and have started to transcribe the solos to Boom, Like That (I was transcribing the main part while I uploaded BoA.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mike42 on September 07, 2010, 02:15:08 am
Trying to learn Angelina by Tommy Emmanuel. He is a genius but man his stuff is difficult to play
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 07, 2010, 02:13:50 pm
 Uploaded my cover of Brothers in Arms, and have started to transcribe the solos to Boom, Like That (I was transcribing the main part while I uploaded BoA.

Been waiting for this.  Will go check it out!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 07, 2010, 03:31:32 pm
Trying to learn Angelina by Tommy Emmanuel. He is a genius but man his stuff is difficult to play
I like a few of his tunes but none seems to appeal to me besides Stay Close To Me which apparently isn't very hard..?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 07, 2010, 04:48:41 pm
Tommy Emmanuel
I play none of his songs, but when I play my little shows seems I am much like this man.
I enjoy myself and the people who hear me enjoy life as well.
But I have a sickness same as Tommy

I guess once you get the blues there is no cure it will lead to the rocking pneumonia, and a Dr can't help you the boogie woogie flu comes next, at which time your fever will get high.
Although they have no cure most who catch this, get use to the fever and learn to live a long life.
Tremors of the hand when it comes in contact with wood and un-controllable expression of the face and mouth are the  worst side effects for those who suffer from this condition.
Some find a substance called alcohol to help, I have heard others talk of a leafy vegetable matter that when smoke it may provide some relief.
I find it helpful to have a guitar always in tune when the fever gets high to be the very best remedy for the blues.
A fender super reverb may be needed for the treatment of stubborn cases, Dr Z amps have also helped those whose condition is more severe.
We who have this condition do not pray for a cure, in fact most are grateful we have it and wish to get everybody to at least come in contact with it.
If I could give my affliction to you I would, for it may hold the cure for just being human.
Being human is not a sickness it is what we are.
The blues is the best and worst of human nature, if you are alive there is still times listen to the music and find peace, listen and find love.
Eat,drink and just be merry,
I have suffered many years from this affliction .
Must of the time I feel nice like sugar and spice.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 08, 2010, 12:50:52 am
Nice Steveo.  I like what you said!  I'm glad to be afflicted!!

Went to my lesson tonight and lone behold my bends didn't suck as much as I thought they did.  My teacher says I'm a way to over critical of my skills and to relax and enjoy.  Guess I'm just my own worst enemy.  It really bothers me when I can't get something "perfect".  It's such a weight to carry around with me all day.  Jammed with my teacher in A minor scale and the A minor pentatonic while he did an impromptu backing track. That was really lots of fun.  Learning the A scales all over the neck.  I now get my lessons recorded on an memory stick and it makes things so much easier.  What a fabulous teaching aid.   
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 08, 2010, 01:00:05 am
I started learning Ain't No Sunsine a few minutes ago but stopped already. Think I got it nailed. Only the singing left. Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, it's an easy/easier song.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 08, 2010, 02:09:35 am
This is one of my favorite covers of ain't no sunshine another great blues based song.
Man I learned sweet pea years ago for a very bad tape my wife had I figured it was a very old songs, like the guys dead and dust old.
he is a very good


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxB42cjHTGg
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 08, 2010, 04:20:22 am
I started learning Ain't No Sunsine a few minutes ago but stopped already. Think I got it nailed. Only the singing left. Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, it's an easy/easier song.

<3 Love this song!!!
One of my all time favorites!!!

I can hardly wait for you to record it.  I want to hear this really bad!  I know you will do a really ace job on it.  Record it tonight so I can wake up and listen to this. (sorry for being demanding) (not really! lol) Yannow some good vibes to start my day off with.

I really like Mike McDonalds version of it!  I know I will love your rendition of it too! Amazing song!

1 hour later I had to give it a go.

So motivated to play this and have learned most of this song in like 30 minutes.  Pretty easy actually. 

I used this tab and I like it. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyWggL5oEpc&feature=related
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: PJMCM on September 08, 2010, 08:21:25 am
Ain't No Sunshine is a pretty cool song to learn, and it's fairly easy to boot.

Good lesson here..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJoU6VrhOnc which makes all the fretting finger movements very clear.

What you need most IMO is a real soulful voice to sing this one - that's what would take it from simple to excellent!!

@steveo....no idea what that was in your link, but it certainly wasn't 'Ain't No Sunshine'!

P :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 08, 2010, 02:38:16 pm
I looked at your vid PJ and that' more fingerstyle which is excellent if you want to play it in that finger picking style.  I would consider that more if I had an accoustic guitar.  I never the less watched it and can take a few little things and add them to the other vid that I suggested.

This song is a really "feel good" type of song.  Just wish I had that smoky, sultry type of voice to sing this. I still sing though behind closed doors.  What a great motivator this song is. Already practicing at 8 in the am.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 08, 2010, 03:06:42 pm
Come on guys, I figured it out without tabs!
But lnk, glad to see at least somebody is excited about my renditions!

I'm also working on Heart of Gold, voice-wise.

I don't have a great voice for Heart of Gold, but I think I have a dark enough timbre to make Ain't No Sunshine sound good... it's just... the soul that I don't have (do souls depart before you're dead too?).

Haha, I actually wrote it out right here:
http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193803
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 08, 2010, 03:21:28 pm
Come on guys, I figured it out without tabs!


I listened to the fingerstyle picking one at first.  The one PJ pointed out.  I didn't want to try and figure is out so I looked it up and found the other version of it.  I'm sure I coulda transcribed it without too many probs. 

BTW I think your voice is great for Heart of Gold.  You have it going on Cue!  I think your too self critical.  Just go and do it!

Ain't no sunshine has taken me out of my little pity party mode.  I just want to sit in my room and play this all day checking out different channels on my amp and hearing what this song sounds like.  Music really does soothe the savage beast within me!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 08, 2010, 03:26:09 pm
Lnk

As I said in that topic on the AGF I got it from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIdIqbv7SPo
This one was really easy to transcribe and is very easy to play and sounds really cool. Not intrusive - very minimalistic, which I think is important for a song like this.

Ah thanks, well okay, I'll try to record it first and hear what it'll sound like... :D
If it's not satisfactory to me then nobody will ever hear or see it!
And yes I am in fact very self-critical.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 08, 2010, 05:14:10 pm
Sorry I posted the wrong song this is right and it is the best but it is song high I remember a great black boy who die a white man but he was a great singer that for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLdE22r7NL4
I like licks link I have been saying it all in the melody and it is.
I ask you to learn the major scale and you will not need tab for a three chord song.
The other song I posted is another great song very old, ans I like his vocal I do the other song in A or G so I can flat pick it the melody.
I love some good loving it is the best but I am a man have to say I enjoy a good fight as well.
One reason you should maybe learn a song like this is because it teaches you to reall hear the 1234 in your head.
don't like it cause it talk about kicking so ass try think god I am a country boy I have played that all over this world people dig it and you learn to count 1234.
I guess learning to play simple songs as a child just to get a nickle got me good at 1234 or 1 and 2 it is there even in harder time signatures there is always 1 2.
Gotta go show starts at 4 and goes till I get tired but today is lets drink bunch of coffee day.
Coming to a parking lot near you soon Steveo
Have a great day guys
I define a good fight as I walk or limp away and you need a ride to the ER .
i KNOW i AM CRAZY.
Well gotta go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLdE22r7NL4
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on September 08, 2010, 05:56:40 pm
Quote
Well I got me a fine wife I got me ol' fiddle
When the sun's comin' up I got cakes on the griddle
Life ain't nothin' but a funny funny riddle
Thank God I'm a country boy
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 08, 2010, 06:11:22 pm
While I was reading that I thought "damn, why does that sound so familiar?!".
Yes, I was listening to that not too long ago!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 08, 2010, 11:34:55 pm
Learning Fire and Rain now. I think I can sing it too. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 08, 2010, 11:50:46 pm
  Ah Fire and Rain. Never knew what that second chord in the chorus. It's a b minor something, but I just don't know how/where to fret it! :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on September 09, 2010, 12:22:42 am
Quote
Well I got me a fine wife I got me ol' fiddle
When the sun's comin' up I got cakes on the griddle
Life ain't nothin' but a funny funny riddle
Thank God I'm a country boy

LOL John Denver kicks ass.

I've been practicing my minor scales and I'm getting a new acoustic soon, so I'm currently without an acoustic since I traded my ovation as a downpayment. I'm getting an Ibanez AW900, and it is effing perty.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 09, 2010, 01:51:15 am
 Ah Fire and Rain. Never knew what that second chord in the chorus. It's a b minor something, but I just don't know how/where to fret it! :D
J says it's a Bm11 I think.
IIRC it's fretted like: x20230
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 09, 2010, 05:47:24 am
Fire and rain is a D capo 3 fret, you keep the d chord and with your little finger you add the c# A string and you play the B note with the index or pointer while still holding a D well you have the D B string and the F# e string and th A string is the B it would B a B minor something I would need to write it down LOL.

I am tire love JT play many of his song maybe ten.
Sea pea was a winning  got me a few cups of coffee with that tune.
ain't no sun shine made it, back to back with I shot the sheriff.
Country get people dancing and soul sister keeps them dancing.

I am tired as hell but still my guitar gently weeps.
I will have a day in the life nailed down soon another Beatles,
If any one has tab to the chords when the key cange happens I would love to see it lol
I can play it man there is some great tension in that e to a minor progression..
I am happy with my arrangement so I really don't need the chords lol.
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 09, 2010, 02:33:27 pm
Steveo I will look that Beatles tune up for you if you would like but it will have to be later on today.  I have some last minute details that I have to attend to for my upcoming jewelry show in the city.  I will see you later.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on September 09, 2010, 04:55:18 pm
Setveo2 its not a TAB but this might help.

http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/aditl.shtml#q2
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 09, 2010, 06:53:56 pm
Thanks TB.
Licks if you don't have time to type out the plane falling from the sky ,car
skidding out of control train wreck of a progression!!!!
 write the name of the book again.
A day in the life won CBS poll of the greatest Beatles song of all time.
I am doing this song with just a guitar, I was surprised it was even possible to do and sound good but hey it works.
I am sure I look like I am in pain before the key change,most key changes are smooth.
There nothing smooth here except the tires of the car skidding  after the plane start falling.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: lorenzo on September 09, 2010, 08:19:45 pm
Neil Young - Needle and the Damage. Courtesy of Mr. S
Cant get the wee bluesy riff bit on the C flowing. I shall conquer tho, I hope  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Phalanx on September 09, 2010, 08:32:04 pm
Neil Young - Needle and the Damage. Courtesy of Mr. S
Cant get the wee bluesy riff bit on the C flowing. I shall conquer tho, I hope  ;)

I've been practising that for some days now too. I'm getting better at it, but still can't play it at medium speed. :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: lorenzo on September 09, 2010, 08:33:22 pm
Yeah it's a little tricky, putting all the parts together at speed is a challenge. We'll get there man  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 09, 2010, 09:13:41 pm
I tried it a load of months ago and failed. Tried it again and I think I can actually play it now. Sadly I cannot sing it.

I might want to learn this instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OYyIJUTKEI
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 09, 2010, 10:24:56 pm
Don Ross.
I am glad I can sing, B F# and E I know the chord but the tuning I don't know lol.
really cool song the guitar hurts my brain to look at but it sound so good not sure but I bet they play good they sure sound good greenfield I think is the maker.
played this and this
if too hard try the other song 3 chords try to play the melody  key of D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a64uyOUw_A

Capo 2 fret open G i love the Hendrix notes at the end.
Blue grass with drums now that a rocker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Lk0DZDaL8
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 09, 2010, 10:54:45 pm
Ah cool, Django Reinhardt.

The tuning is BEADF#B - baritone standard, so EADGBE transposed down a fourth.
The guitar is a fan-fret baritone jumbo (17" lower bout) built by luthier Marc Beneteau (see that B on the headstock?).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 10, 2010, 12:24:30 am
Cue

I believe you, it really messes with may mind seeing the neck and the bridge and nut on that guitar.
I believe builders build these boxes trying to perfect the intonation or maybe it is to give the guitar a voice more like a human.
Probably the first one
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 10, 2010, 12:29:40 am
The intonation is an added bonus. The actual reason is this:
Thick, low-tuned strings produce better basses with a relative longer scale.
Thin, high-tuned strings produce better trebles with a relative shorter scale.
The proper name for these guitars hence is 'multi-scale'.



Man it's tough! :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 10, 2010, 01:24:01 pm
Cue how is the Ain't no sunshine going?  I'm patiently waiting!!  LOL Just kidding I just know you will do an amazing job with your finger picking style.  I'm doing some picking but it's mostly chords.  It's Siggi Mertens version.
This guy is a really good teacher.  Sort of like Justin not quite though.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 10, 2010, 02:34:17 pm
  Been learning the Stairway to Heaven solo. Not really as hard as I expected to be, but a tricky one. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 10, 2010, 02:37:29 pm
I have to stop learning new stuff and just stick with the stuff that I haven't quite perfected.  No  more new songs for me.  I know people who say they know a ton of songs they can play but when it really gets down to the nitty gritty they only know there favorite riffs of each song and can't even play it all the way through.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 10, 2010, 02:49:27 pm
  I used to do that a lot when I first started out. Now I just transcribe a lot, and I end up improvising solos instead of learning them. But Stairway was a song I learned a year ago, and I even learned the first parts of the solo. When I played it to a friend, he said:"Wow! I never heard that before!" ::)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 10, 2010, 02:55:53 pm
I have to stop learning new stuff and just stick with the stuff that I haven't quite perfected.  No  more new songs for me.  I know people who say they know a ton of songs they can play but when it really gets down to the nitty gritty they only know there favorite riffs of each song and can't even play it all the way through.
I do that. I made a set-list to practice along with. it consists of 11 songs of which two are my own arrangements. I still have to perfect one and learn the other. The latter is a bit annoying though, as I wrote it in open C...
The set-list is about 50 minutes to an hour of music, btw... x|
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 10, 2010, 04:44:28 pm
=zkash_guitarist
  Been learning the Stairway to Heaven solo. Not really as hard as I expected to be, but a tricky one. 
[/quote]
Dorian Mode really cool song, don't have to be hard it sound good.
Jimmy page was a over dubbing guitarist put a pair of headphones on and be amazed by a wall of guitar sound, this my be his make piece black dog more of my song, but I can and will play stairway everybody learns it most wrong from what I hear on you tube LOL
Well just learn straw berry fields I think that's a mess of chords, notation would have helped.
Licks whats the name of your Beatles books again sorry I lost it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 10, 2010, 05:09:01 pm
  Been looking for a proper backing track for brothers in arms, the I stumble across this one (http://www.licklibrary.com/jamtrax/dire-straits/29/brothers-in-arms#Top). But I don't know how to download it. Help anyone? ;)
  I love you Realplayer Downloader!  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 10, 2010, 09:13:01 pm
Zkash it's called "The Beatles complete chord songbook".  Do you need to know anything?  If so, I am willing and able :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 10, 2010, 09:48:25 pm
Must learn Church Street Blues... must learn Church Street Blues... must learn Church Street Blues... must learn Church Street Blues... must learn Church Street Blues... must learn Church Street Blues... must learn Church Street Blues... must learn Church Street Blues... must learn Church Street Blues...
ARGH it's too freakin' hard!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 10, 2010, 09:56:32 pm
Zkash it's called "The Beatles complete chord songbook".  Do you need to know anything?  If so, I am willing and able :)
  I think you mean steveo... ::)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 11, 2010, 05:00:42 am
Nitty gritty itty bitty.
Just getting home have major coffee buzz got some real beans LOL
I have play maybe 200 songs today,
And wrote or stole a song too
If you keep at it it just get easier.
The chord to straw beery fields hard to hear LOL.
Yeah scan that and post it, nobodies looking lol
Church street that's a keeper, it is only three chords accept for then dime hard time hello church st blues.
Yes it is fast fast as a human can change a chord so I guess it was hard to learn.
triplets 123 ,
As crazy as it sound you really count 1 2 , but play 2 sets of triplets really fast and up down crazy time  G .
Keep picking at it
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 11, 2010, 05:34:27 am
Zkash it's called "The Beatles complete chord songbook".  Do you need to know anything?  If so, I am willing and able :)
  I think you mean steveo... ::)

Yes I did mean Steveo!  Going senile!  lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 11, 2010, 02:55:47 pm
When I went to my lesson on Tuesday night and was talking to my teacher about transcribing he told me not to waste my time as most songs I want to know are youtube.  I totally disagree with him.  You can get a tab from youtube and it can be so wrong.  I think your ears are just the better way to go.  I got a tab from Youtube for Back in Black and it was crap.  Too many wrong notes but it was in the beginning of my playing and I didn't know any better.  I learned it the wrong way and then later had to learn it the right way.  What a waste of time.  Transcribing has really changed the way I listen to music now.  It's amazing what I can hear now as compared to before!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 11, 2010, 04:41:50 pm
Yeah that's my name music is my game.
yeah licks it all in your head, and I can prove it just play two chords a minor and A major , play nothing else and just listen do this a few minute a day and you will hear these in your head you will drive down a road or hear a song on the radio and with out a guitar in your hand you know what there are playing 90% of music major and minor chords.
Cue try this song a little easier and it will get you to Church st
Merle Haggard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qYWbxyhp6U
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on September 11, 2010, 05:45:41 pm
Finished learning Red House. Very hard song and probably way beyond my playing ability. The first time I tried to learn this song was about a year ago and quickly gave it up. So I gave it another go this week and man was the learning easier. I guess your "musical" memory improves with time and practice. Now I have the "notes" down but still have to absorb the song some more to get the timing and phrasing right. It's funny how every time I have tried to record this I get different sections wrong. I'll be like "yea the trickiest part's over" and mess up the next lick   >:( haha

I also learned Pride and Joy a couple of weeks ago and play it pretty frequently. Less licks than Red House, but hard to tame. There are some very fast runs and solo's that still need taming  :D

Also learned the whole of Shine on Crazy Diamond (well Parts I-IV). You can say Gilmour stuff is easier to get down except it's getting the feel right that's the biggest challenge. Working on the long bends and smoothing out the phrasing is what takes up most of the practice time.

Basically I've been learning some of the songs that made me pick up the guitar in the first place. I must say I never imagined that some day I would've been able to say "yea I can play that song" (albeit an ear piercing version of it) back when I picked up that cheap nylon acoustic back in 2008. I've seen such great improvement among the justin guitarrists, some playing in gigs and others just having a blast with their newfound talent. I wonder how far we'll be in our own guitar journey in a few more years.

Cheers
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 11, 2010, 06:40:08 pm
I've seen such great improvement among the justin guitarrists, some playing in gigs and others just having a blast with their newfound talent. I wonder how far we'll be in our own guitar journey in a few more years.

Cheers

That's easy to answer.  I will be bigger and better than I already am getting.

TA DA!  I have all 5 positions of the pentatonic scale commited to memory. I'm actually amazed cuz some days I can't even remember my own name! lol  Using one part of a position then continuing on to the next position so on and so forth but it's hard.  Going so slow but it will get better.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 11, 2010, 07:17:23 pm
In a few years? I'll be a busker.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on September 11, 2010, 07:41:44 pm
.... Red House ....
.... Pride and Joy ..
.... Shine on Crazy Diamond (well Parts I-IV) .....

WOW!!  that's an impressive 'learn list'

WOW !!

be great to hear them

 :)

... TA DA!  I have all 5 positions of the pentatonic scale commited to memory. .... Using one part of a position then continuing on to the next position so on and so forth but it's hard.  Going so slow but it will get better.

excellent work  :)


In a few years? I'll be a busker.

I played with some friends in a busking band for a short spell one summer ... went on a camping holiday and busked in the tourist traps a few hours a day ... earned enough to pay for the holiday   8)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 11, 2010, 07:45:05 pm
Yeah, I mean, what else can I do? :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on September 11, 2010, 07:48:50 pm
Nuclear physics?

 ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on September 11, 2010, 08:16:00 pm
.... Red House ....
.... Pride and Joy ..
.... Shine on Crazy Diamond (well Parts I-IV) .....

WOW!!  that's an impressive 'learn list'

WOW !!

be great to hear them

 :)


Haha sure mate. Will post something up as soon as I get at least an enjoyable recording of them. Learning the notes is one thing, playing them right is for me something else entirely.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 12, 2010, 03:11:54 am
Yeah, I mean, what else can I do? :D

I thought you were going to school Cue! 

Are you serious about being a busker?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 12, 2010, 03:12:13 am
.. Red House ....
.... Pride and Joy ..
.... Shine on Crazy Diamond (well Parts I-IV)
Pride and joy is the hardest one to sing and play, all up-strokes and hammer ons in all the rhythm.
There all keepers for sure.
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 12, 2010, 08:31:38 pm
I need someone's help.  I have learned and memorized the 5 positions for the pentatonic scale and am trying to not play in the box shape of each position but to rather play all over the neck.  I'm getting frustrated because I can't get it fluid.  I have to hesitate and look at which box I'm landing in and then think of the shape of the rest of the box and then continue.  I know that I should also remember the root notes in each shape but that's asking for too much of myself right now.  I can hear some root notes anyhow and the rest are a little oblivious to me cuz I'm thinking so much.  I want to apply some bends and pull offs.  This is a huge undertaking and trying to coordinate everything is a challenge!   Any suggestions.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 12, 2010, 08:47:02 pm
Yeah, I mean, what else can I do? :D

I thought you were going to school Cue!  

Are you serious about being a busker?

Yeah, but I failed to graduate so I'm stuck in the last grade for another couple of months. And then I have to find a college (or whatever it's equivalent is here) to go to.
But yeah, I might want to give busking a try.

Oh and Licks, just keep practising it, maybe get a slower backing track and play slow improvisations. First, just play the notes which you know are 'in the box', then later try to apply hammer-ons, pull-offs, vibrato and up/down bends.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: David V on September 12, 2010, 11:22:12 pm
Licks, I find it useful to have a few licks that link positions, or just slide into another position and play part of a lick you know in that position.  If you know a few licks that use most of the scale notes, you can just mix the licks up a bit and cover most of the scale notes.  Also, just from improvising you'll probably figure out which notes you like to stop on and which you like to use as passing notes.  When you figure these out, they should help you get your bearings more quickly.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: LievenDV on September 13, 2010, 08:06:55 am
I tried some playing+singing at once again yesterday. kinda funny to sing "space oddity" with a cold... you wanna sound like bowee and end up sounding like Bob Dylan
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Gandsfjord on September 13, 2010, 12:12:56 pm
Hi Lieven. I also have a cold - or some virus of some kind anyway. And I can't sing (or say) a word today. Not a squeak. Anyway, I 'play' the lyrics in my head while playing. Beats counting. And also I hear the guitar better, so maybe this is not all bad. (Mind - it's very debatable whether I can 'sing' at all, virus or not. My first son learned to speak with the express purpose of telling me to shut up with the singing at bed time. His first sentence was: No dad! No sing!)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 13, 2010, 01:24:37 pm
  Transcribing Down To The Waterline. IMO the best opening track for a debut artist.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 13, 2010, 03:12:40 pm
I've got allergies - singing with that doesn't work either! LOL.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 14, 2010, 12:17:51 am
r=zkash_guitarist
  Transcribing Down To The Waterline. IMO the best opening track for a debut artist.
[/quote]
That's my second favorite song he wrote, it is just to cool the whole thing Check it out oh-hu
I love the bridge, may be one of the coolest one in any song by anybody and the start is cool.
I can still feel it in the places were the sailors go.
Fog horn blowing out, french kissing, hands are cold but your lips are warm oh la
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 14, 2010, 02:12:12 am
I've got the dragon by the tail!!

I can link all of the pentatonic positions together by either slides or just jumping to another part of the "big" scale.  I even added some trills and full tone bends to this. This is just so much fun!!  I found such a cool backing track and can't stop playing.  I thought it would of taken me a way longer to figure this out.  Oh baby, I'm on a roll!  Ya can't stop me now!  lol  I really wish I could record myself as I really want everyone to hear what I can finally do! I feel so on top of the world!  YEAH me!!  I'm NOT bragging one bit.  lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 14, 2010, 04:05:19 pm
I'm looking for a showy tune for a talent show at school. HELP!!!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 14, 2010, 06:00:37 pm
[Cue Zephyr
I'm looking for a showy tune for a talent show at school. HELP!!!
[/quote]
Capo 7th fret the song Hotel California yes the vocal are very hard.
You can spoke this song as to play the chords act as if your doing poetry.
I have made drunk fall of bar stools with take one.
I can see it working well in a play as well the words can stand alone but you add music, well that's all part of the show 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 14, 2010, 06:29:43 pm
Looking for something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356ViUx1Ktc
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 14, 2010, 06:43:46 pm
  How long do you have till the talent show?



EDIT: Woohooo!, 1200 posts!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 14, 2010, 08:19:09 pm
Early December and gratz!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 15, 2010, 08:10:42 am
Looking for something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356ViUx1Ktc

Well i like the guitar its the one you said it did not a thing for you seems he can do fine with it, I do fine with mine as well and it can't hurt easily.
You can't play church street but you can play this guys stuff, something does not add up,have seen stranger thing happen but would want to see this and it may become the strangest
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 15, 2010, 01:18:55 pm
  Hmm, why don't you try practicing more on those Andy Mckee songs you did.



N.B: First day of school today. Damn, they changed almost everything! The buses, the cafeteria, and even the teachers! :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: David V on September 15, 2010, 02:26:02 pm
I worked out a couple Freddie King licks the other day and for a while couldn't figure out what was going on.  Then I realized he was using the dorian mode.  I knew the dorian mode for blues playing was something you could do, but I didn't really care.  Now that I've heard why it's cool I just want to use it more and more. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 15, 2010, 03:18:36 pm
Steveo,
Yeah, I'm not such a big fan of Ovations. I do like the longer neck feature though. That he manages fine doesn't mean I will too, does it?

zkash,
They bore me right now.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 15, 2010, 04:56:06 pm
[=Cue Zephyr
Steveo,
Yeah, I'm not such a big fan of Ovations. I do like the longer neck feature though. That he manages fine doesn't mean I will too, does it?

zkash,
They bore me right now.
[/quote]
Well I must say Ovation should really work for anyone, I sold some of mine.
Looking a guitar that plays great and sounds great and you can take it to any place on this planet, hot , cold, wet or dry and have to work and survive and sound good too.
I can't say this about any wooded guitar I have, A long trip to a tropical place with your Martin will the finish came off one and the bridge on another.
Not planning a world tour you may not need one, I like the maple necks too play really good like any good Fender should LOL
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Tourniquet on September 15, 2010, 05:47:28 pm
Every rose has it's thorn by Poison

Not a difficult song, but every time I start singing the chorus I can't help but crack a smile thinking about Bill and Ted blagging their way into heaven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-eXUtoDH4g
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 15, 2010, 06:30:39 pm
No, I don't like Ovations.
I'd much rather try a Rainsong first.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: LievenDV on September 15, 2010, 06:49:36 pm
I can link all of the pentatonic positions together by either slides or just jumping to another part of the "big" scale.  I even added some trills and full tone bends to this. This is just so much fun!!  I found such a cool backing track and can't stop playing.  I thought it would of taken me a way longer to figure this out.  Oh baby, I'm on a roll!

go go go; that's awesome... looks liek you're learning a lot (and motivated) by your new teacher these days?!!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 15, 2010, 09:22:04 pm
Not blonde but dithering!

Dilema!!  I know the 5 pentatonic shapes and know the A minor scale shape but how do I put these two together to sound good? I'm really getting lost in the shapes. I'm trying slide into the A notes on the pentatonic and trying emphasize the 1, 4, and 5th of the minor scale but I just don't how the heck to  incorporate the minor scale without getting lost! This is really brain overload.  Many suggestions welcomed.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 15, 2010, 09:54:59 pm
Minor pent excludes the 2nd and the b6th. Adding those will automatically incorporate the nat. minor scale.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 16, 2010, 01:15:51 am
[=licksnkicks
Not blonde but dithering!

Dilema!!  I know the 5 pentatonic shapes and know the A minor scale shape but how do I put these two together to sound good? I'm really getting lost in the shapes. I'm trying slide into the A notes on the pentatonic and trying emphasize the 1, 4, and 5th of the minor scale but I just don't how the heck to  incorporate the minor scale without getting lost! This is really brain overload.  Many suggestions welcomed.
[/quote]
One you should not try to play all these positions as whole position hard to explain.
The 1st position in A minor, you will use this position and all of the notes more here as you go up the neck try to stay on the GB and E strings.
It is 5 notes and play and open A string , I like to use the B string here play with just one finger do not use put one after playing the open A using only one finger slide this to the five note on just the B string.
you should listen to waiting for the world to change the song that is the sound and what I am trying to get you to do.
Very cool and not as hard as it sound, what is hard is to do it with just one finger you will want to use another don't yet after you master this one finger trick then use as many finger as much as you want.
That was a trick and a lick.
Please look for the A minor chord in all this position with each of the f positions there is a chord and you need to see it, that is the key to knowing these positions CAGED knowing all these notes on a guitar is not as hard as you would think.
I would not show a person the pentatonic scale without showing where it came from THE MAJOR SCALE.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Malicious on September 16, 2010, 01:20:42 am
Finishing up  "Hear my train a comin" by Hendrix.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 16, 2010, 05:42:17 pm
Easy to play, hard to feel, I like that,
 some not so easy.
The speed which SRV, Jimi and Johnny Winter plays is not so easy.
Paul Gilbert can play the blues and it's speed is mind melting fast.

Having said this just one note with the right vibrato at the right moment may be all that's needed to be said.

Yeah my train is always coming and going, people always say Steve your to loud.

Been trying DADGAD makes some songs so easy to play , have not tune like this in years think I may keep a guitar tuned this way, two finger and you sound great lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 18, 2010, 04:48:55 pm
Dad was impressed, got back to learning this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356ViUx1Ktc).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 19, 2010, 02:37:26 am
Learn too play this two song too a woman and you should have body parts that smell like Caned xx--xx packed in spring fresh water.
I use this as a test these song will get you some .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWAUCVbnDUg
If that song don't work try this, this don't work she may be gay,I have used these for 20 plus years and they work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7DAHi_Cks8
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 19, 2010, 02:39:19 am
Steveo, sounds sweet!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on September 20, 2010, 09:08:07 am
Trying to transcribe the Pulse version of the Comfortably Numb solo. Epic solo and quite a challenge to transcribe. See how long it takes me xD
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 20, 2010, 01:26:25 pm
Transcribed Innocent by Taylor Swift at school today (bored, didn't want to do schoolwork). I had played it the day before and still remembered how to play it and decided to just write it down. From here I'll probably just do some arpeggia ad-lib because I'm pretty sure there isn't much structure in there...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 20, 2010, 07:01:16 pm
Comfortably Numb
Great song, still do that one , great songs just get better with age.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 21, 2010, 05:15:11 am
Comfortably Numb

I wish I was!!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 21, 2010, 05:02:19 pm
=licksnkicks
Comfortably Numb
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I wish I was!!
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I wish I never really was comfortably numb, some things are too good and what the songs talks about is too good , trust me a chill pill is better than a monkey on your back.
I even stopped coffee again, I will enjoy a cup when I want but I could see it was a bad habit for me, it is really good.
Playing music , I will not stop that habit..

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 21, 2010, 07:45:41 pm
Some people handle things differently.  Coffee is a vice for me.  I'm good with 2 cups a day.  My limit.

Give me a nice Black jack with tonic on the side and I'm good.  Sometimes you have to do whatever it is just to escape the crap, the grind, the stress of life.  My guitar usually fits the bill but sometimes not quite!
Usually 2/3 drinks is my limit usually on Fridays.  After that I become an idiot!  I know when to say no!

I'm sure there are a few of us who have a checkered past when it comes to mind altering stimulants. 

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 21, 2010, 08:09:10 pm
Mind altering stimulants.
Coffee and Alcohal both fit the words above for sure. 
Man just hearing the word Coffee make me want it.
Ee dee oh is french and every village needs one.
Stress kills you so yeah relieve it, your going to die of something.
you can't mix chill pills with alcohol.great song.
A massage is the stuff, just cost alot but you can't take it with you.
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 21, 2010, 08:36:43 pm
Lnk,

I don't need drinks to be an idiot. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on September 21, 2010, 09:27:22 pm
major pentatonic scales in relation to minor pentatonic scales ... playing minor up then major down in the same position on the neck ... moving up a pattern and ding it again ... moving up to the nect pattern and doing it again etc etc .... then playing major up and minor down etc etc ...

ideas from the Blues You Can Use to ingrain the shapes and allow smooth transition from one to the other ...

and beginning to get an ear for major pents too, beginning to incorporate a little of them in with the minor pentatonic over 12 bar backing tracks

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 21, 2010, 09:44:28 pm
Here's some major and minor, I would not call this scales it is but it swims like a fish H2O.
Great guitar with easy math problems, I hope this link has the great solo at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dlgvxa3qx0&p=DC2A9E88D239524F&playnext=1&index=38
Yeah this adds up, Listen how he make the guitar moan, they cut the solo so you can’t hear the shredder he is drowning to get that tone.


All true, no lies,This guy is a rock star in a coyboy hat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3zkkLckeyM&ob=av2e
 I think I like to hear the truth and this is it
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 22, 2010, 04:31:41 am
This guy is ok but too much country for me!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 22, 2010, 05:37:46 am
His is country for sure, but his songs are true and he really has a rock and roll heart seen him play Jimmy page and Jimmy Hendrix at his country show and more Lazar beams then Pink Floyd.
He rocks live, I was a big hair metal head for years took that long to grow the hair.
Country is the most popular music in America, has been a long time, I play what people want to hear, I always play what the people want I can turn these tunes into metal LOL it's all the same chords with country the licks are more major but they like to use both in the same lick not as easy as it sounds .
I do like some strange stuff too I can see blue grass and metal, they blending of style is really cool I what to be a billionaire, is love by most everyone it is Rap, Reggae with a rhythm and blue singer.
So gypsy jazz with Cajun swing may be something LOL
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on September 22, 2010, 02:05:32 pm
Man I think I'm gonna give Pink Floyd and anything Gilmour-related a break. I have learned a bunch of songs (like 6-7), but I can't get it up to par with the recording. I just can't get that tone and feel! First of all I don't have the equipment tho that's not the biggest problem. I don't need to imitate the tone that close as long as it's workable. It's my technically ability that's pulling me back. I can't get all bends up to pinch and vibratoed so it sounds bland and uneven and my whammy use leaves something to be desired. Gilmour's my favourite guitarist along SRV, Hendrix, and Page (all of them sharing the #1 spot ;) ). Gonna go for easier stuff like Nirvana, some Metallica or Led Zeppelin and get back to Gilmour. Hopefully my playing won't be as embarassing with some variety and improved technique...

Btw sorry for just throwing my frustration out there....  ::)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 22, 2010, 03:42:52 pm
It's ok Gilmore , Beck, Morse all super benders, I think you should stay with the bending it will get better
Bending always bend a little flat or right on pitch.
If you have not done so, work on half step bends and bend that are just a little less than a half step.
this is a ear thing and will be good for all you can't hear that these half bends and thing like pulling down is what make us love some guitarist and vibrato.
Pick and bend every day
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on September 22, 2010, 05:12:50 pm
Man I think I'm gonna give Pink Floyd and anything Gilmour-related a break. I have learned a bunch of songs (like 6-7), but I can't get it up to par with the recording. I just can't get that tone and feel! First of all I don't have the equipment tho that's not the biggest problem. I don't need to imitate the tone that close as long as it's workable. It's my technically ability that's pulling me back. I can't get all bends up to pinch and vibratoed so it sounds bland and uneven and my whammy use leaves something to be desired. Gilmour's my favourite guitarist along SRV, Hendrix, and Page (all of them sharing the #1 spot ;) ). Gonna go for easier stuff like Nirvana, some Metallica or Led Zeppelin and get back to Gilmour. Hopefully my playing won't be as embarassing with some variety and improved technique...

Btw sorry for just throwing my frustration out there....  ::)

the very reason that I have held myself back from really trying to learn any of his solos yet ...
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TheDisciple on September 22, 2010, 06:24:03 pm
I'm really trying to get my F barre chord as sweet as I can so ATM I'm playing 'Californication' by 'The Red Hot Chili Peppers' as it is mostly Am and F with C, D and G thrown in the mix (mostly in the chorus.) Also 'Breaking the girl' by the Chilli's which has A, Am, C, D, F, G and E chords though not as many F's as 'Californication' but is still nice to play. Both of these songs are nice and slow to play so my technique with these chords wont be over stretched but enough to make sure I'm playing them right.
The fact they are both by the Chili's is a coincidence as I have many other songs out there I could of played but I like this band and they happen to be the first two songs I saw in my list when looking for songs with F in.
I will admit that I have got the tab from a website (don't worry Justin ill flog myself later  ;)) and not transcribed them as I should of done. But to my defense I had already got them before I discovered your website and I will be transcribing from now on.
I hope this helps all you beginners out there.  ;D

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 23, 2010, 02:51:03 am
I'm really impressing myself.  I'm learning to solo in the minor keys and...........I know the whys and hows of it.  It makes its so much easier if you understand what the hell your doing.  Just having a bit of trouble remembering the different notes and where they are in relation to the different minor keys.  I really am starting to sound like I know what I'm doing. No worries I'm still humble!!   ;D Yannow the cool thing about my "new" teacher is that he downloads the whole lesson to a memory stick which I can take home and watch over and over and over again.  What a great teaching tool!

So far so good with this teacher.  He politely told me I talk too much.  Less talk more rock.  It's a good thing though. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: irishalkies on September 23, 2010, 04:26:52 am
Good for you Licks. It's good you've found a decent teacher at last, and you've put in the work to get where you are. Well done.

 ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 23, 2010, 06:52:46 am
The difference in a major and a minor pentatonic scale is a minor third or 3 frets.
If you play major the same notes played 3 frets up is the minor , vise verse.
You really not going to fully get it without the major scale and the Caged chords.
Don't get me wrong like any rocking guitarist I use the 5 note scale the most but I know where it come from I would advice you learn this simple scale in chord form and as a single line scale,
It's like driving with your eyes close until you learn this.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 25, 2010, 01:47:06 am
So, what am I learning now?  How not to drop a 25 pound slab of concrete on my fretting hand.  What a stupid accident.  All my fault.  It's very painful but I'm still playing with black and blue fingers.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: MadCat on September 25, 2010, 06:53:39 am
So, what am I learning now?  How not to drop a 25 pound slab of concrete on my fretting hand.  What a stupid accident.  All my fault.  It's very painful but I'm still playing with black and blue fingers.

Damn, that must have hurt like hell!
I wonder how you still can play guitar, that must be real love.  ;)

I hope nothing is broken inside your hand.
And I hope it doesn't affect you next jewelry shows.

Get well soon!

Patrick
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 25, 2010, 08:56:32 am
  What happened?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on September 25, 2010, 12:01:54 pm
Peter Green's live arrangement of 'Jumping at Shadows'.

Someone posted it in the guitar liinks recently and, having listened to it a good few times, I thought I'd sit and learn it. Trying to capture the essence of Green's tonal nuance and expression without pushing too hard to emulate it; His tone is fantastic.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 25, 2010, 02:17:54 pm
So, what am I learning now?  How not to drop a 25 pound slab of concrete on my fretting hand.  What a stupid accident.  All my fault.  It's very painful but I'm still playing with black and blue fingers.

Damn, that must have hurt like hell!
I wonder how you still can play guitar, that must be real love.  ;)

I hope nothing is broken inside your hand.
And I hope it doesn't affect you next jewelry shows.

Get well soon!

Patrick

Nah nothing is broken just bruised and sore.  My son was cutting stones for the patio  and I was leveling out the pea gravel that it would go on and he accidentally let it slip out of his hands right on top of my left hand.  I managed to pull my right hand out of the way.  My left hand got the worst of the brunt.  I couldn't pull it out in time.   It was excruciating to say the least. It was the kind of pain that makes you get up and do a little jig.  It's just ugly and bruised and I may lose a finger nail(according to the walk in clinic) but it's better today. It hurts when I play and it reminds me that I have to be very careful as to what I do with my hands. Thanks Peter for your condolences.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: stevea on September 25, 2010, 06:43:16 pm
Just started today on Def Leppards Hysteria ( acoustic version )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83-YbOaPxPs

Started working on the intro first and then the chords
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 25, 2010, 08:07:30 pm
*nonchalant whistle*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwcy1E-KQMc
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 26, 2010, 09:30:01 am
Learning how to solo in the minor scales.  It's so much fun! This is were creativity really kicks in with the bends, hammer ons, trills so on and so forth. It's really not as hard as I thought it would be.  Playing on the 15th frets and higher sounds so sweet.  My fingers aren't as quick as I would like them to be but it I know it's just a matter of time.

There's not very many good minor backing tracks around to practice with.  There either very melancholy or there break neck metal speed.  I need something in between.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on September 26, 2010, 10:45:50 am
Licks-

I particularly like this one: Memphis Blues in Bm (http://www.guitarbt.com/index.php?page=dl_info&cat=Jam%20Tracks&file=Jam%20Track%20-%20Memphis%20Blues%20In%20Bm&ext=mp3)

Nice and easy going........ and very B.B King ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 26, 2010, 01:51:55 pm
Thank you Sir Wishbone. May I call you "Sir"? This is one kick *ss backing track.  You have officially been granted your knighted title.  You are noble yet ever so humble.  You have helped me greatly in my never ending quest of knowledge!  Thank you!!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on September 26, 2010, 02:01:54 pm
No worries, Licks........... I've got to do something to justify my lounging around and making the forum look untidy ;D

Don't forget to have a good look around that site while you're there. GuitarBT is a fantastic resource for backing tracks.

For anyone who cares to have a look, the main download page link is here: http://www.guitarbt.com/index.php?page=dl_list
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 26, 2010, 02:55:53 pm
[=Wishbone
Peter Green's live arrangement of 'Jumping at Shadows'.

Someone posted it in the guitar liinks recently and, having listened to it a good few times, I thought I'd sit and learn it. Trying to capture the essence of Green's tonal nuance and expression without pushing too hard to emulate it; His tone is fantastic.
[/quote]
Great players I play many of his tunes , I always like to hear his name, he wrote so many great tunes, black magic woman.
Seemed the all had a good meaning behind them like jumping at shadows.
Means don't be afraid of thing you should not be afraid of.
Rock on play the blues.

Been play the 12 string here lately man it's like playing two guitars at once, sounds like that too.
I walk these streets a loaded 6 or a 12 string on my back.
Yeah I am a cowboy need a new steel horse, mine died.
Well I am pretty sure my wife had something to do with that killing.
So I ride like I play a little crazy.
Licks put some ice on it, rub some dirt on it, let a dog lick it.
My broken left hand feels your pain, bet you sang a high note when that happened,
Watch for swelling and move them as much as possible and mainly be grateful they did not get broke.
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 26, 2010, 04:01:33 pm
  Transcribing Solid Rock. I like the live versions better, and I'm trying add a little bit of improv with it. Will provide feedback. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 26, 2010, 05:11:14 pm
Solid Rock?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on September 26, 2010, 05:26:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIhOqB6Hbjg
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: lorenzo on September 26, 2010, 06:56:52 pm
Pearl Jam - Yellow Ledbetter
Nice tune to play, reasonably straight forward.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 27, 2010, 05:19:33 am
Just made up my very own cool solo in Em with a touch of delay.  My teacher gave me examples to follow but I thought if I made something up on my own it would show that I understood the concept.  I really love the minor scales. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on September 27, 2010, 07:06:34 am
Just made up my very own cool solo in Em with a touch of delay.  My teacher gave me examples to follow but I thought if I made something up on my own it would show that I understood the concept.  I really love the minor scales. 

do you mean the minor or the pentatonic minor?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 27, 2010, 02:20:24 pm
Hi Close I meant just the minor scales.  I'm doing the Em on the upper frets.  Just trying to get the notes to sound really fluid.  This week in my lessons we go on a mission to find out where else they are on the next.  I actually know where they are already because of just playing around all over the neck.  Who knows what we will be doing in this lesson? 

Trying to perfect my vibrato still.  I can do it and it sounds fine but I just can't keep my thumb on the back of the neck due to an injury.  I feel still slightly retarded for the lack of a better word when doing it.  I just basically want to feel comfortable while doing it. Like it's a natural ability.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on September 27, 2010, 03:18:47 pm
Hi Close I meant just the minor scales.  I'm doing the Em on the upper frets.  Just trying to get the notes to sound really fluid.  This week in my lessons we go on a mission to find out where else they are on the next.  I actually know where they are already because of just playing around all over the neck.  Who knows what we will be doing in this lesson? 

Trying to perfect my vibrato still.  I can do it and it sounds fine but I just can't keep my thumb on the back of the neck due to an injury.  I feel still slightly retarded for the lack of a better word when doing it.  I just basically want to feel comfortable while doing it. Like it's a natural ability.

Good to hear you satisfied with your teacher! When are you going to post up a clip of what you've learned so far? I'd really like to hear that!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 27, 2010, 04:12:33 pm
=licksnkicks
Just made up my very own cool solo in Em with a touch of delay.  My teacher gave me examples to follow but I thought if I made something up on my own it would show that I understood the concept.  I really love the minor scales. 
[/quote]
Sounds like little wing to me or a Pink Floyd song yeah Pink loved the minor stuff, same  as the major just change to minor , they call this relative minor , its is also a mode.
Little wing is cool it uses , well the way I play it uses both major and minor in it chords and scale, different chord a different scale, Jimi played right out of the chords he played.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 27, 2010, 06:13:23 pm
Just transcribed Taylor Swift - We Were Happy, and yesterday, Ben Wells' version of Dark Blue Tennessee (also by Taylor Swift).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 27, 2010, 08:06:41 pm
Can't young men go blind looking at Taylor Swift, just kidding.
I can look at her new look but the I'm young and jail bait look I turn my head , no need to torture my poor soul.
Musically she seems to be growing up.
Your not going to learn church street blues playing along with the new Taylor Swift CD.
Blonds don't have more fun, Guitarist do with our skills we get as many blonds as we want , still joking , but true.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 27, 2010, 08:26:57 pm
Yeah, well, I did go berzerk spending like 200-300 bucks on Taylor Swift stuff in the last 2 months.

CSB will have to wait. Last.fm shows that it's going down in play counts against two relatively unknown Taylor Swift tunes that I recently acquired. Still looking for more, but I don't expect to find any help here... lol.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on September 27, 2010, 08:57:02 pm
Hey! Cue
Keep dreaming man , your dreams are yours , I kind of understand my friend.
These sisters in Heart , and way more than I can type, hot chicks been around many moons.
I even got obsessed with other musicians, never any one for any long period of time.
I guess I like too many styles, much like woman.
I got to have the real deal, A guitar needs six strings and a woman just needs to have all her front teeth and be small enough for me to carry and we have a winner, yeah I set my sites low but I aim high, seems to work for me.
 There are so many lonely people on this planet.
Yeah I think I can work with this.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 27, 2010, 09:45:58 pm
Hi Close I meant just the minor scales.  I'm doing the Em on the upper frets.  Just trying to get the notes to sound really fluid.  This week in my lessons we go on a mission to find out where else they are on the next.  I actually know where they are already because of just playing around all over the neck.  Who knows what we will be doing in this lesson?  

Trying to perfect my vibrato still.  I can do it and it sounds fine but I just can't keep my thumb on the back of the neck due to an injury.  I feel still slightly retarded for the lack of a better word when doing it.  I just basically want to feel comfortable while doing it. Like it's a natural ability.

Good to hear you satisfied with your teacher! When are you going to post up a clip of what you've learned so far? I'd really like to hear that!

I won't be able to record anything until I get my gear for X-mas presents.  Maybe I could get my teacher to do it for me.  The light bulb is on and someone is home!  lol

I really love the sound of the minor scales and pentatonic too.  I can relate to the sadness in the minor scales.  I play with so much more emotion compared to the major scales.

I have been doing bends like there going out of style just to get them smooth with no other resonating strings involved(trying for the perfect muting technique with the index finger) and the tips of my ring and middle finger are literally falling apart and they hurt like they have never before.  I don't know if I'm putting too much pressure on the tips.  It seems if I don't press nice and hard it just doesn't sound sharp like a proper bend should.

UPDATE:

This is a milestone marker for me.  I played my very first solo that I composed all by myself in the key of Em tonight with my teacher.  He played rythym and I played lead solo.  I was able to confidently play the notes all over the neck.  Do some really nice hammer ons and pretty clean bends. I even added a trill in the mix! It sounded absolutely amazing although I do admit to making two minor mistakes but I was able to bounce right back into the groove of things.  My teacher even commented that I have made some dramatic break throughs.  I will never forget this day September 28, 2010!
I dared to dream and now the dream is becoming my reality!

This has got to be one of the "best" days in my entire 43 years on this planet!

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on September 29, 2010, 10:21:43 pm
@Licks: Just grab a cellphone camera and let us hear it!  :D Seriously, congrats on that major breakthrough performance.  I love those days when I learn new stuff or learn a new concept that has a major impact on my playing. Like walking through a new door, with plenty of new possibilities to explore. Keep it up licks!

Been playing "Rock and Roll" by Led Zeppelin and can play the solo at 85% speed. That solo is insane man! I wanted to do some shredding but I wasn't expecting something so ... I don't know... peculiar. I was learning it and I was like "OMG these notes make no sense", but up to speed they sound great. Looking forward to uploading a very messy take on it  :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 30, 2010, 12:05:45 am
Transcribed DBT, STAGG and TIRH.
Time to transcribe JSOKW.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 30, 2010, 03:53:45 am
Transcribed DBT, STAGG and TIRH.
Time to transcribe JSOKW.

K Cue, fess up!  What do the acronyms stand for?  Just curious!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 30, 2010, 12:31:51 pm
Songs from this page:
http://www.darkbluetennessee.com/raredemos.html
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on September 30, 2010, 01:25:53 pm
I should of known it had to do with your Missy Swift!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: CambaNation on September 30, 2010, 01:29:53 pm
Hey Cue, man I was checking out your YT channel. There some sweet stuff in there. Especially liked your Andy Mckee, Don Ross and other fingerpicking covers. Really good stuff mate. You're out of time in some, but it's nothing practice won't iron out. All the notes and feel are there. Good job man!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 30, 2010, 01:44:33 pm
I should of known it had to do with your Missy Swift!
Yeah, I'd wish...

Hey Cue, man I was checking out your YT channel. There some sweet stuff in there. Especially liked your Andy Mckee, Don Ross and other fingerpicking covers. Really good stuff mate. You're out of time in some, but it's nothing practice won't iron out. All the notes and feel are there. Good job man!
Thanks!
I just leave those mistakes in to make me seem human. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 01, 2010, 05:40:27 pm
Nothing new it's got soul and has good tone.
Great lyrics too

What do you get with no ego’s just men who love music.
Green grass and high tides.
It's not what you play but how you play it.
Sometimes you  may even need 5 chords and a change in rhythm.

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk


Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 02, 2010, 05:53:14 pm
I think I'm deaf... transcribing a Taylor Swift tune (Long Time Coming) and I can't figure out what the guitarist is doing... I tuned down to DGCFAD already but I keep hearing an open high E so I tuned to DGCFAE... this can't be right!!!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on October 02, 2010, 08:48:24 pm
Nothing new it's got soul and has good tone.
Great lyrics too

What do you get with no ego’s just men who love music.
Green grass and high tides.
It's not what you play but how you play it.
Sometimes you  may even need 5 chords and a change in rhythm.

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk



That song's in Rock Band. I've loved it ever since.

I'm learning Always With Me, Always With You by Satch
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 03, 2010, 05:10:06 am
Nothing new it's got soul and has good tone.
Great lyrics too

What do you get with no ego’s just men who love music.
Green grass and high tides.
It's not what you play but how you play it.
Sometimes you  may even need 5 chords and a change in rhythm.

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk



That song's in Rock Band. I've loved it ever since.

I'm learning Always With Me, Always With You by Satch
Cool as well that is the only song I do by Satch, I like the song no one ever request it, they do seem to enjoy it.
Has A great Melodie I can hear it in my head LOL
Rock on.
Cue you need  another ax man one for standard and the other for what your mind think ups I am sure it sounds like a chord open really cool stuff easy to play the Steveo way, the easiest path , yeah I wish that alot of work after a while it come naturally, I going to keep saying this make myself a believer
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 03, 2010, 12:52:14 pm
Time to learn:
Better Off
Closest to a Cowboy
Didn't They

Judging by her strumming force and strings hitting the frets, I think she uses light (12) strings.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 04, 2010, 03:21:16 am
So Cue since your the Taylor Swift afficianado, what don't you know about her?

Just curious!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 04, 2010, 03:58:12 pm
Easy, I don't know much about her at all. I know most about the music, haha (but not even the thought behind most of 'em).
I'm just totally crazy about who she actually is and her music, not quite as much what she does besides that (well I know she likes baking now, haha). I also know she's 5'10". Couldn't quite find her weight, 'dimensions' and... yeah I'll stop here.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: rainwoman on October 04, 2010, 06:43:31 pm
My teacher gave me examples to follow but I thought if I made something up on my own it would show that I understood the concept.  I really love the minor scales. 

Hi Licksnkicks
I've seen here and there on the forum that you have a guitar teacher. Can I ask you how your usuall lesson looks like? I mean, e.g., does your teacher plans the lesson or you tell him what you'd like to practice, do you spend more time on theory or on playing, do you play together, how long the lesson lasts, etc. I'm asking this because I've got a teacher myself recently, but I have no comparison and actually I am not sure what should I expect.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 04, 2010, 06:46:17 pm
Well just being grateful I live through another great weekend.
The key word being grateful pretty much should say it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA7ZSRfrKvI
This is a simple number in B and has no lead tried playing fancy stuff this song wants only 5 notes and no more.
Sorry it may be a man thing, so Doney is a woman if you need that explain to you.
Forgot to add someone to talk to as one of Mans simple needs.
 why am I hearing loverboys every bodies working for the weekend in may head right now.
Well I might as well play and sing along
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 06, 2010, 02:22:47 am
I think I died and went straight to hell!  This is like a living nightmare.  I'm now trying to put the minor scale together with the minor pentatonic emphasizing the 1,4, and 5 notes in the minor scale. This is working all above the 12th fret.  I have never thought so much in my life. Your trying to link the pentatonic together using the first 3 positions and trying to incorporate the  minor scale shapes soloing while my teacher is playing just a beauty piece of rythym work. I crashed so many times tonight at my lesson I felt somewhat like a failure!  OMG! Thank god my teacher is patient and willing.  This is really hard stuff to learn to the uninitiated. I know I will be able to solo so much better after I learn this stuff, it's just getting there.

I really think I hit rock bottom tonight at my lesson.  The only way is up now!

Rainwoman I will pm you with tails of guitar teachers!

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on October 06, 2010, 03:27:41 am
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Rainwoman I will pm you with tails of guitar teachers!

Yikes!!

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 06, 2010, 03:43:21 am
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Rainwoman I will pm you with tails of guitar teachers!

Yikes!!



I'm spelling challenged too! lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 06, 2010, 04:53:21 am
A little 123 waltz in this time of thanks giving, seems a cool song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcTAEhweey8
Another festival favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5IABqwVO2U

Yeah that’s some German language in this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUryeDLpY_c
Key changing on a dime
Sell out or surviving, I shall get me some German food,
Lets face it I will bring plates home.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 06, 2010, 05:33:50 am
Steveo is this what your learning on guitar?

 German food you mean for Thanksgiving?  Doesn't the whole world eat Turkey, gravy, cranberries, stuffing, sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes, hot rolls  and pumpkin pie with whipped for Thanksgiving?  Maybe you like sauerkraut with your turkey dinner?

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 06, 2010, 05:59:40 am
Steveo is this what your learning on guitar?

 German food you mean for Thanksgiving?  Doesn't the whole world eat Turkey, gravy, cranberries, stuffing, sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes, hot rolls  and pumpkin pie with whipped for Thanksgiving?  Maybe you like sauerkraut with your turkey dinner?


I been playing some world music and dance festivals even a few town festival and it's been fun
No WAY Will I eat sauerfraut taste like rotten cabbage there cabbage I am not found off but they do have some other dishes some kind of fried dough with stuffing so that's a dumpling and it work's with some hand made sausages.
The wife a little made so may go get see food and play some at a sport bar for thanks giving I have fish last lear it was great.
I eat turkey every dam day of my life in some form so I am not unto thank given but I do make a great turkey , marinade it 24 hour cover in wine and roasted garlic, wrap it very well in heavy duty tin foil and place in turkey cooking pan the kind that hold the bird of the bottom and keep water in the pan and that's a fine bird really juicy you will not want or need gravy for this tasty bird.
I do pray my wife will forgive me but it not looking too good lol.
Hey1 the best 10 years of my life , great girl .
Like the song says there only you and me and we just disagree.
I play if you can be with the one you love , love the one your with, but I am broke up a little 10 yeas a long time. She tired she goes to work 8 hours a day and school 8 hours a day drive time over two hour thats less than 6 hour for sleep shower and eat another else brushing your teeth .
She not just tired of me she tired.
3.8 GPA shes a book worm
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on October 06, 2010, 03:51:24 pm
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Doesn't the whole world eat Turkey, gravy, cranberries, stuffing, sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes, hot rolls  and pumpkin pie with whipped for Thanksgiving?

That actually does sound good enough to get whipped for...  :o   Is that a Canadian thing or just between you and hubby  ;)?

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 06, 2010, 04:48:06 pm
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Doesn't the whole world eat Turkey, gravy, cranberries, stuffing, sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes, hot rolls  and pumpkin pie with whipped for Thanksgiving?

That actually does sound good enough to get whipped for...  :o   Is that a Canadian thing or just between you and hubby  ;)?


Man you have to love a woman you can call licks, I know I do.
Licks you can say what you want these little word mistakes let us know are a wild chick just admit it lol
You know you dance on a pool table at some point of your life, me think it not just let me keep believing this please.
Hey! if your are not dreaming, your are just sleeping.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 06, 2010, 06:50:25 pm
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Doesn't the whole world eat Turkey, gravy, cranberries, stuffing, sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes, hot rolls  and pumpkin pie with whipped for Thanksgiving?

That actually does sound good enough to get whipped for...  :o   Is that a Canadian thing or just between you and hubby  ;)?


Man you have to love a woman you can call licks, I know I do.
Licks you can say what you want these little word mistakes let us know are a wild chick just admit it lol
You know you dance on a pool table at some time

Oh you guys!  You know I meant whipped cream and what I do with it or not  is my business.  

Yes, god knows that I'm a wild child at heart!  I'm just not your ordinary conservative stuffed shirt. I have been known to dance not on the pool room table but many other unsuspecting places.  Like through the sun roof of a limo gyrating with the best of them.   Girls just want to have fun!  Yes I do!  I have the devil in my heart!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 07, 2010, 12:59:01 am
Like through the sun roof of a limo gyrating with the best of them.   Girls just want to have fun!  Yes I do!  I have the devil in my heart!

Yeah we know and every body has a little devil inside, one side the devil the other and angel opps did I just describe a woman lol
Yeah I love a pack of woman when I sing the song hurt so good I always point too a pack when the verse with a girl like you comes around.

Just saw the movie SALT , love too see a movie about a tough woman.
It was good.
there are some tough woman I can see them or smell them and I stay away.
Chicks that ride motor bikes and drive cars with 500 horse power I know they may hurt me .
Still love them just afraid of them a bit.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 07, 2010, 01:33:26 am
Girls just want to have fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rti4YglT4E
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 07, 2010, 05:45:21 am
Never saw this Weird Al one yet.

Thanks for sharing!  (<3 trucks and tattoos)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 07, 2010, 10:07:36 pm
I used to listen to quite a lot of Weird Al. I think he's a genius - that's why.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 07, 2010, 10:31:40 pm
I used to listen to quite a lot of Weird Al. I think he's a genius - that's why.
Well he ain't stupid, he must have like a lawyer friend or maybe he got the rights to make fun of all the songs he did.
I liked eat it and like a surgeon but I have not heard all of his stuff .
He phunny for sure.
Hey!!!!!!
Cue can you link the guy going something in the way she moves can't get it to may you tube from your little blue box.
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Safira on October 07, 2010, 10:52:31 pm
I used to listen to quite a lot of Weird Al. I think he's a genius - that's why.
Well he ain't stupid, he must have like a lawyer friend or maybe he got the rights to make fun of all the songs he did.
I liked eat it and like a surgeon but I have not heard all of his stuff .
He phunny for sure.
Hey!!!!!!
Cue can you link the guy going something in the way she moves can't get it to may you tube from your little blue box.
 

For the most part I personally believe he does get permission to use the song before he does anything.  Imitation is the highest form of flattery, so I don't think most people are that anal to say no.  I don't know how old most of you are, but in the '80's it seemed your song really "made it" when Weird Al did his thing to your song.  It was all in fun, and no one was ever really made fun of.  I have no idea what happened behind the scenes with Amish Paradise, but since he was never sued I'll take Weird Al's side on that one.  That story never really made any sense to me, though.

Maybe I'm jaded because I've always enjoyed his work, and like Cue I think he's brilliant.  Even now certain songs like Beat It, my mind will start to think Eat It instead.  My favorite I think is White and Nerdy. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 07, 2010, 11:46:40 pm
Safira, I send a good vibration you way .
Cue where are you send link to something in the way she moves lol.

Safira is that a Persian name or something made up
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 08, 2010, 12:18:27 am
White and Nerdy is brilliant indeed! So are these:
Beverly Hilbillies (Money For Nothing) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFXlUsixr3g)
You're Pitiful (You're Beautiful) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfpJWUYgbg)
Trapped In The Drive-Thru (Trapped In The Closet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmGVYki-oyQ)
Trash Day (Hot In Here) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ttr9GBrlYs)
All About The Pentiums (All About The Benjamins) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX-T8P7cRUc&ob=av2e)

And his originals:
I'll Sue Ya (RATM'ish) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZL12uc5qQg&ob=av3e)
Frank's 2000 Inch TV (REM'ish) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwRYZz0K1Dk)
Don't Download This Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEmTbpvj9fM)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Safira on October 08, 2010, 12:33:41 am
Safira, I send a good vibration you way .
Cue where are you send link to something in the way she moves lol.

Safira is that a Persian name or something made up

Wow, my 1st one, thank you Steveo2.  

This is a little embarrassing to admit but, Safira is actually spelled wrong, I should have spelled it Saphira.  Saphira is a dragon from the books by Christopher Paolini, (Eragon, Brisingr & Eldest)  I like her because she is tough (hey, she is a dragon) but has a sweet loving gentle side to her.  It's more of a young adult book and I'm usually not into them, but I really am enjoying the story line so far.  

When I signed up for the board I thought of the name quickly, and at 1st I thought it should be spelled Saphira, but since he was spelling words like brisingr with just an r at the end I thought his spelling of Saphira was simplified too.  It was only after that I realized my mistake.  (yes, I should have used google, google is my friend)

Worst comes to worst I blame my mistake on being American.  We have chopped up the english language a little over the years.  ;) But, I will say doesn't it make more sense to spell it check with a CK, and do we really need a U in a word like color?   ;D  

thanks again for my 1st good vibrations.  (that could really go in the gutter quickly can't it)  Now that I have enough post's I can pay it forward.  
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 08, 2010, 01:04:12 am
Cool name cool story.
We are not the only people who butcher the English language , in my travels it seems most nation have slang.
I am kind of old but I wear young people cloths, it's the same cloths I had as a teen almost, it's like me cutting a tee shirt so it has a v neck, did that before it was popular.
My Beverly hillbillies song is funnier than Al's but can't be shared here.
That with the love boat theme and a song from Hee= haw, I have made drunks fall out of there chairs laughing.
Gloom , despair and agony on me.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 08, 2010, 01:20:45 am
Safira I love the story behind your name.  The name is really beautiful no matter how you spell it.  It sounds without knowin the story line very exotic!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 08, 2010, 01:37:43 am
Safira I love the story behind your name.  The name is really beautiful no matter how you spell it.  It sounds without knowin the story line very exotic!
Yeah she's a sweet heart I thought her name was like he carries a big sword or something like that.
If this was not a guitar forum what do you think licksnkicks would sound like. :) ;D :o
Man close2you found a really rocking blues guy he plays a b5 and will play some other lick using more than the 5 note pentatonic it's in my do you have the blues thread and its pretty cool Luther Alison.
It rocks
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 08, 2010, 04:05:36 am

If this was not a guitar forum what do you think licksnkicks would sound like. :) ;D :o



I dunno Steveo you tell me!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on October 08, 2010, 04:29:08 am
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should have spelled it Saphira.

Do you want me to fix it?

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 08, 2010, 05:28:57 am

If this was not a guitar forum what do you think licksnkicks would sound like. :) ;D :o



I dunno Steveo you tell me!
Well in my traveling years I signed all my letters back home, still alive and kicking dogs, goats and chickens, Man I was having fun so I would say your name sounds fun.
Before I get a cruelty to animals which is not the case, at high speeds on a motor cycle you can stick a foot out and kick something out of the path of the bike, hitting any thing with the front tire of a bike would not be good for me or the animal.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Safira on October 08, 2010, 02:44:22 pm
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should have spelled it Saphira.

Do you want me to fix it?



Oh TB do you have the power to do that?  It would be cool if you could.  

My hero, thank you TB, you have more positive vib's from me. 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on October 09, 2010, 01:24:59 pm
Had to learn something as I've been slacking alot lately, so started with 3 Doors Down - Kryptonite
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 09, 2010, 01:43:59 pm

If this was not a guitar forum what do you think licksnkicks would sound like. :) ;D :o



I dunno Steveo you tell me!

Steveo(taps foot up and down, arms folded across chest) I'm still waiting for my answer hunny!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Saphira on October 09, 2010, 02:44:31 pm

If this was not a guitar forum what do you think licksnkicks would sound like. :) ;D :o



I dunno Steveo you tell me!


Steveo(taps foot up and down, arms folded across chest) I'm still waiting for my answer hunny!


Ha, ha, ha....well....ummm.....if you're talking to me, I'd have to say..... you like bull riding?  or maybe you like lollypops in spicy, hot, flavors. ;D  (where is the innocent angel smilie when I need it)

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 09, 2010, 05:04:00 pm
Creative thinking Saphira!  Good ones!  lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on October 09, 2010, 06:14:56 pm
Licks-

Personally..... I'd go for : "Canadian"   ;)

Now, Steve......... See how simply you could have dug yourself out of that one?...... But you had to dawdle  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 09, 2010, 11:39:39 pm
Licks-

Personally..... I'd go for : "Canadian"   ;)

Now, Steve......... See how simply you could have dug yourself out of that one?...... But you had to dawdle  ;D

That's using the old noodle there WB!  A very safe choice.  Smart man!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 10, 2010, 05:22:25 am

If this was not a guitar forum what do you think licksnkicks would sound like. :) ;D :o




I dunno Steveo you tell me!
Well in my traveling years I signed all my letters back home, still alive and kicking dogs, goats and chickens, Man I was having fun so I would say your name sounds fun.
Before I get a cruelty to animals which is not the case, at high speeds on a motor cycle you can stick a foot out and kick something out of the path of the bike, hitting any thing with the front tire of a bike would not be good for me or the animal.

I answered you base I can in this place, truly I my change my name to kicks and licks LOL.
Gina may dear the look of that guitar on you well the chords say it all.
Steveo can dig it
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 10, 2010, 02:20:21 pm
I have to tab Matches by Taylor Swift.

Of course nobody can help me or even listen to this song.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 10, 2010, 02:30:45 pm

If this was not a guitar forum what do you think licksnkicks would sound like. :) ;D :o



I dunno Steveo you tell me!


Steveo(taps foot up and down, arms folded across chest) I'm still waiting for my answer hunny!


Ha, ha, ha....well....ummm.....if you're talking to me, I'd have to say..... you like bull riding?  or maybe you like lollypops in spicy, hot, flavors. ;D  (where is the innocent angel smilie when I need it)


I rode a bull once, made it the 8 second too, man thank God for the clowns .
Do not try this unless you can rode a mechanical Bull and are good, the machine can't step on you and the real one , well he don't like you riding him, so he is going to try to give you the hoof and horn.

Yeah Licks likes things Hot and Spicy for sure.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 10, 2010, 04:34:41 pm

Of course nobody can help me or even listen to this song.

Are you wanting some help with this?  If not then I don't get it!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 10, 2010, 08:07:48 pm
Well help is always welcome to get the job done even faster. But nobody can help me as the song isn't on the internet and I can't give it to anybody either.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on October 10, 2010, 08:15:53 pm
Well help is always welcome to get the job done even faster. But nobody can help me as the song isn't on the internet and I can't give it to anybody either.
  Well that's pretty selfish! If the the smite button was still here! Just joking, where did you get the song then?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 10, 2010, 08:38:23 pm
LOL.
I got it through pseudo-trades.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 10, 2010, 09:00:43 pm
Well help is always welcome to get the job done even faster. But nobody can help me as the song isn't on the internet and I can't give it to anybody either.

Your right the song is nowhere to be found.  Why can't you give it to anyone else?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 10, 2010, 11:26:26 pm
Only those lucky enough can have it and pseudo-trade it. I was lucky enough to find somebody willing to give a song for a transcription, this is how I started my collection of so-called rare songs.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 11, 2010, 06:21:58 pm
I have to tab Matches by Taylor Swift.

Of course nobody can help me or even listen to this song.
I am sure if you really needed help someone would help you.
I ask for a link to something in the way she move from you.
Already learned it last night .
I just wrote down the melody and the chords just came right along , no music no tab, it almost always is in the melody.

It easy to miss stuff so I learn something in the way she moves.
Great song
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 11, 2010, 06:54:27 pm
Well I can't write music, and those who want to learn Taylor Swift songs can't read it either.
So, I'll write tabs!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 11, 2010, 07:22:06 pm
Well I can't write music, and those who want to learn Taylor Swift songs can't read it either.
So, I'll write tabs!
I am a big country music fan , and a fan of pretty woman around the world.
Like I said she just to pretty, I am pretty sure there are very few, men or boys for that matter who wish to learn every Taylor Swift song by heart.
Few guitarist read music, it would serve you well to at least be able to read a melody line.
That's the line Taylor sings out of key so much, man she lucky shes pretty and that millions of people maybe billions love pretty people.
I would rather see someone look like the ugly ducking but sound like a knighting gale bird than look like a swan but honk like a goose.
Taylor is no goose but she is not the best song bird either.
Cue I am sure there is another like you on this planet with a pair who are crazy about this pretty girl.
Most of her fans do not have a pair.
You have also explained why you like her so much, no need to repeat it.

Her songs are not going to get ya closer to Church St either. :) ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 11, 2010, 07:48:33 pm
Yeah, I bet only all the classical guitarists actually read music. I know for a fact that there are quite a few male Tay fans but I doubt there's many just like myself.

Don't ever say she isn't an excellent songbird btw (sorry for the bad Q).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnO4NaMh3Y

I can play the first 8 notes of CSB by the way. I think I have to get the DVD for the rest of them! LOL.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 11, 2010, 10:39:15 pm
Yeah, I bet only all the classical guitarists actually read music. I know for a fact that there are quite a few male Tay fans but I doubt there's many just like myself.

Don't ever say she isn't an excellent songbird btw (sorry for the bad Q).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnO4NaMh3Y

I can play the first 8 notes of CSB by the way. I think I have to get the DVD for the rest of them! LOL.
I know very little classical so must not be right there it put me to sleep, I am quite sure you may be talking about site reading of music which I really am not good at , the only people I know who play the guitar and site read personally are Classically train or piano players who play both instruments.
If any human clicks the link you provided and can not hear she is not always singing in tone, well something is wrong with your ears.
IN technical terms they call this pitchy which means she can't hear that well either or she could fix it.
She should get a vocal couch and are exercise that could help her.
Like I said I love country music I even like her songs , just pointing out much of her success has to do with she's PRETTY, as proof of this in your link all you hear are the high pitch shrills of young girls in the beginning but once she shanks her hair even a few men can be heard.
Once again just stating facts not putting her down , she has millions of fans, would I knock someone over to get a autograph from her No.
If I ever meet her, which  is possible I have played with many country and rock stars.
If I do meet her and can get an autograph , I will get it signed to Cue than I will tell her about you
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 11, 2010, 11:24:28 pm
I think it's the imperfections that just make the performance.
I've discussed with some people before she needs a couple of singing lessons to improve control, support, power and coordination etc.
I don't know if you've noticed, but she also writes, which is also a big part of her success. She writes in such a way that many people can connect with the lyrics (including myself).
Yeah, Tay and shaking her hair around would kind of get me kinda going too. Would I knock somebody over for an autograph?
Maybe not for an autograph, but for a personal meet, I would probably run through fire and walk over coal.

I'm the deviating kind of fan, I don't have tons of posters on my wall (I have two homes anyway), magazines and loads of merch from her store. I just have two bracelets that I wear everyday to show that I'm not your average fan, a very discreet keychain I have hanging on my backpack.
Maybe the strongest thing still is that I now have 7 CDs with an 8th on the way (due after 25 Oct), 2 singles, and still wanting to get 2 more.
Yeah, she has only three albums - I know. When I have the last one on my list I'll have:
3x Taylor Swift (2006, 2007 deluxe ed, 2008 bonus track ed)
3x Fearless (2008 US ed, 2008 International ed, 2009 Platinum ed)
2x Speak Now (2010 ed, 2010 deluxe ed)
1x Sounds of the Season/Holiday Collection EP
1x Beautiful Eyes EP
1x Mine Promo CD single (US version)
1x Teardrops on my Guitar Promo CD single (2009 version)

Yeah, I might want to add a Speak Now 2xLP to the collection. If only I could get this old Marantz 6300 to work.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 12, 2010, 12:02:52 am
Cue, yeah  man you may be her #! Fan.
As young as you are I would think your parent have two homes.
She may have already had lesson and is going her best.
Shes in Country music so her fans will grow up and still love her so she is set for life.
Most of the time when a person says autograph meeting the person is implied.
I can see the look on her face now, I need you to write to Cue with love,who Cue .
Nashville is about 8 hours from me and she's very nice to her fans, it's a cool drive you have to cross the Blue ridge mountains so your gonna see the clouds up close.
I think I would agree since hes so pretty it my really be cool her singing is a little of cause that girl is so fine, like a china doll pretty.
Cue is in love, no woman your ever gonna meet will match that.
Keep dreaming , shoot for the moon and you might get a star.
To get the fruit you have to go out on the limb sometimes yeah I can write a Country song too ;D :-* ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 12, 2010, 12:47:14 am
I'm not her #1 fan. Not by a long shot. Maybe the #1 in my category, whatever that may be.
You're right about her and her fans, she will grow up (come on, she's only 20 (21 on the 13th of Dec), and that her fans will too. With a meeting I meant a thorough meeting. But I'd be too dumbfounded to ask, say or do anything. This is what happened when I shook Andy McKee's hand. I could have said and asked so much, but I was just too stunned.
Nashville should be about a 8 hour flight or so, maybe less - I don't know. But I heard it's very expensive, like, the price of a decent mid-high range guitar. That would definitely hold me back.,
I know she's nice to her fans, I mean come on - look at her! Cue Zephyr is just my alias, btw.
Yeah, she IS really very pretty, but she has talent to back it up which I also find to be quite important.
And yeah, you're right. I slowly started admitting that I'm crushing all over her (mostly to other fans I know off the internet in this country).

"Keep dreaming , shoot for the moon and you might get a star."
You just got a PV for that.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 12, 2010, 01:45:07 am
Back on topic!  lol

Solo improvisation is so much more difficult than I ever thought!  I heard that this part of the journey could take up to 2 or more years to make it sound really decent.  Trying to get vibrato on the notes E A B( e minor scale) is monumentous!  Trying to be technical and get the bends and the pulls just right.  What a struggle!!  Sometimes I sound so juvenile(really simple) and it sounds not as good as I want it to be. :-[  I wish I could play faster than I am but than it just becomes sloppy.   
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 12, 2010, 02:24:08 am
Back on topic!  lol

Solo improvisation is so much more difficult than I ever thought!  I heard that this part of the journey could take up to 2 or more years to make it sound really decent.  Trying to get vibrato on the notes E A B( e minor scale) is monumentous!  Trying to be technical and get the bends and the pulls just right.  What a struggle!!  Sometimes I sound so juvenile(really simple) and it sounds not as good as I want it to be. :-[  I wish I could play faster than I am but than it just becomes sloppy.   
Patience
All good things come with time, as far as soloing, I would say I really have not idea what I will play , people seem to call this improvising , well that just means I am going to play something using scales , modes and arpeggios and I think it could take much longer than two years, than again it could take a short time.
Your struggle is my fun, maybe that's the secret , I am going to start teaching again I have a few people who have ask me for help and for 40 bucks an hour I will teach them.
Lesson one, simple is good, vibrato and bends are good, I have already explain this to the people ,we learn how to teach ourselves.
A person could have just 3 fingers but with two good ears I think some how the music will come out.
Sounds like your shooting down your own selves again your are talking about how great the major scale is and how it has change your life like a new religion , guess you really have not learn it.
Boy this sound old practice makes perfect, seems to work.
Yeah have coffee buzz better than pain medication seems to work so that's another trick go with what works.
Yeah 7 notes , five chords endless possibilities, man I love music, it is so good

List of great things endless same as music Enjoy it.
Get someone to show you songs and how they were made and you will know scales, modes and arpeggios .
All starts really with one scale  The Major
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 12, 2010, 03:04:59 am
Back on topic!  lol

Solo improvisation is so much more difficult than I ever thought!  I heard that this part of the journey could take up to 2 or more years to make it sound really decent.  Trying to get vibrato on the notes E A B( e minor scale) is monumentous!  Trying to be technical and get the bends and the pulls just right.  What a struggle!!  Sometimes I sound so juvenile(really simple) and it sounds not as good as I want it to be. :-[  I wish I could play faster than I am but than it just becomes sloppy.   

Sounds like your shooting down your own selves again your are talking about how great the major scale is and how it has change your life like a new religion , guess you really have not learn it.


List of great things endless same as music Enjoy it.
Get someone to show you songs and how they were made and you will know scales, modes and arpeggios .
All starts really with one scale  The Major

I'm not talking the major scale Steveo but the minor. 

Ya I whining again!  Now aren't going to ask me if I need some cheese with that whine!

It's just nice to able to vent and have a shoulder to cry on!  I'm not asking for much!

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 12, 2010, 04:03:27 am
Yeah we all need someone we can lean on, great song.
Just wrote a cool sound got the start any way, the solo lead me to the lets rock this thing so Its seems I can High pick scale stuff very well my hand gets tired after minutes of pull off and hammers on, at was cool but way to much for a song it was finger gymnastics some simple tapping.
people seems to dig the stuff in like a Hank Williams Jr song.
Just think wonderful tonight and high way song , add your metal cocktail and you have your dust in the wind, meet ElO and Tom Petty.
You hear ELO and you don't hear the heavy Beatles sound.
Listen and you will hear it.

Live laugh and play Lol ;D :-* ;D 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 12, 2010, 02:26:47 pm
Transcribed Never Mind by Tay without a guitar today (yeah well, 65% of it).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 12, 2010, 05:51:42 pm
Transcribed Never Mind by Tay without a guitar today (yeah well, 65% of it).
Well I am gonna play me some happy country, and blues today, yeah 3 chords maybe 4 .
Solo's will include scales, modes and some fragments of chords.
Maybe never mind will do.
Can't find never mind.
Did find the top 10 Hottest woman on you tube .
The drunk chick looks just like my daughter I think she was # 7.
Your take #3 and #2 put them together you have my wife.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts-1IT5d4Fw&feature=fvsr
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 12, 2010, 06:04:30 pm
Never Mind had only 4. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 12, 2010, 08:27:28 pm
Just tabbed Back to December (heard it only for the first time today), signed up at Ultimate Guitar and hope to be the first!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 12, 2010, 08:58:00 pm
well so much for the country was just play and the song a change is gonna come , came to me so I have to play every song I know by this great artist.
Yeah people like to dance and this music will move you.
Try to make your guitar sound like the sax now that vibrato fo show.
Mr Sam Cook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSoPeZMHMf4&NR=1
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 13, 2010, 01:19:09 am
I'm learning you Shook me all night long(and then some!)lol

I finally have enuff technical ability and skill to be able to do this.  Holy crap this is like getting the present you always wanted underneath the Christmas tree!!!  I've been absolutely dying to do this song like forever and  it's within my grasp!  Halleluja!

I'm beyond excited! 

P.S.  Still practicing those minor scales as well being that they are an necessary evil!  Theory is making me crazy.  So glad I have a new song to get under wraps.

It's like having something on your plate your not particularily fond of but you eat it first and save the best for last.   Off to rock!! No ones home and it's going to get loud!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 13, 2010, 01:55:29 am
I'm learning you Shook me all night long(and then some!)lol

I finally have enuff technical ability and skill to be able to do this.  Holy crap this is like getting the present you always wanted underneath the Christmas tree!!!  I've been absolutely dying to do this song like forever and  it's within my grasp!  Halleluja!

I'm beyond excited! 

P.S.  Still practicing those minor scales as well being that they are an necessary evil!  Theory is making me crazy.  So glad I have a new song to get under wraps.

It's like having something on your plate your not particularily fond of but you eat it first and save the best for last.   Off to rock!! No ones home and it's going to get loud!
Cool song it is one of my favorite AC/DC tunes I think it has more chords like 5 for the chorus.
The theory is easier to understand using songs.
You do have to play scale to learn them, once again not so hard if you see the chords in each pattern.
Very tasteful SOLO I have a Taylor so no real way to play this one on a Taylor LOL
I can hear the solo notes in my head bet 90% the G minor blues scale, I use to play it more note for note but after the start of the solo its all fare game.
I bet it will get loud, Chuck Berry on steroids with a dash of country and some Jimmy page will get you the AC/DC bag of tricks.
Love it.
Turn it up but get a long guitar cord so you got lose any tooth fillings.
Rock on
 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 13, 2010, 03:15:57 am
Had another wish to share with LIcks.
You tell me when I ask you about the major scale that you play the minor.
which is the case with most every player cause it is use more cause it sounds good over major and minor chords,best I can tell this came from the blues ,which made all popular music today except Classical which is not pop.
since you are learning another three chord song.
Here is a good number to really see the major side using the same note you will be playing in the AC/DC tune.
It the same scale or notes.
Some good practice for the relative Minor, but keep the Ab in mind.
I have enjoy playing this song like Angus would have.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-5zlj49ugk&feature=related

Yeah played all the songs on this album today
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on October 13, 2010, 04:07:41 am
Quote
I bet it will get loud, Chuck Berry on steroids with a dash of country and some Jimmy page will get you the AC/DC bag of tricks.

Might as well toss in a little Johnny Guitar Watson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMrd3YWeWDo&feature=related) for good measure.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 13, 2010, 05:25:48 am
No worries about the guitar cord being long enuff as it's 25 feet long!  It's enuff so that I can get up on the bed and jump around while I play(juvenile I know but fun)!  It's like a kid with a new toy!  I'm having so much fun.  Life can't get any better than this!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 13, 2010, 05:34:39 am
Quote
I bet it will get loud, Chuck Berry on steroids with a dash of country and some Jimmy page will get you the AC/DC bag of tricks.

Might as well toss in a little Johnny Guitar Watson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMrd3YWeWDo&feature=related) for good measure.
Yeah this is going in my funked up folder for sure with the extra bass note sounds a little fun to me,
Man need me a xxxx beaver hat.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on October 13, 2010, 05:31:57 pm
  Wrote my own song, in an alternate tuning(double drop D). Never thought I'd do that... :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 13, 2010, 06:35:49 pm
Respect! I can't write at all.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 15, 2010, 06:54:52 pm
Please rate and comment:
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/t/taylor_swift/back_to_december_ver5_crd.htm
Thank you!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Phalanx on October 16, 2010, 09:03:11 pm
I'm not learning anything the past few weeks. I've been busy, busy and busy. I haven't finished my practise routine in two weeks, I haven't done ear training in three weeks and I haven't even touched my guitar in a few days. And I'm to tired to practise tonight because of a long day at work. Perhaps I'll get some practise tomorrow.

Just one more week and this semester is over.... :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 16, 2010, 09:15:11 pm
Trying to complete learning of Ladies Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356ViUx1Ktc). I really want to perform this at the school talent show coming up near Christmas.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 17, 2010, 12:17:07 am
I had too go play for some people so I did , it fun making others laugh and just enjoy some tunes.
I maybe killed a few songs today, I play early at the farmers market cool old and new country song.
Then went to the park for some lunch and that where the killing happened there was many mother and children in the park always is.
So I play you can do any thing but don't poop on my shoes.
Seem I can make about any song up to the cats in the cradle song, keeping the poop theme going seem too have there attention so I went with it.
Come home and just finish dinner after teaching too guitar lesson I am tired too.
There are so many great songs to learn and do, I am grateful it is not really hard to play the songs I like.

Did learn I can play Ice cream man , bottom up and hot for teacher on an acoustic.
People love medleys  and putting parts of song together is just fun.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on October 17, 2010, 01:26:08 am
I've kinda been learning a bit of everything recently.

I learned the Highway To Hell solo...that's easy though.

Learned the start of the Free Bird solo, waiting to get a slide to learn the start of the song.

I'm learning Wonderboy by Tenacious D - fun song.

My hardest project atm, as if Free Bird wasn't...is Always With You Always With Me by Joe Satriani.  Very fun song but has some difficult bits
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 17, 2010, 03:27:26 am
I listened to your Sultans of Swing mbarrett and thought it was pretty awesome.  The only thing I didn't like was the tone of the guitar.  It sounded too "twangy" to me.  Otherwise awesome!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 17, 2010, 05:01:48 am
I've kinda been learning a bit of everything recently.

I learned the Highway To Hell solo...that's easy though.

Learned the start of the Free Bird solo, waiting to get a slide to learn the start of the song.

I'm learning Wonderboy by Tenacious D - fun song.

My hardest project atm, as if Free Bird wasn't...is Always With You Always With Me by Joe Satriani.  Very fun song but has some difficult bits
Sweet  Dude
You are looking at the B major scale for your song, the chord are augmented look at the sus 2 sounds.
I was read the first pages, so good pain medication.
Even stoned I can played.
High way is Am minor then it just rocks,If you into evil you at friend of mine,sorry that hells bells.
The both in A make a medley .
I still ask what sound do you want to hear free bird is the right answer, but other song come out.
As good as these bands , you have a plate full.
Man Sultan tone is so good ,it is suppose to sound that way , he is whack and picking iwith his thumb and finger, really digs into the solo,dirtys is up by just playing harder.
I got this album it was Van Halens First demo has song from the first 3 records and there is a big difference in tone, I think he used a power soak that had a tone knob he really had a big bottom, thats his rhythm tone, his solo I name OU812, Has the delay he used the most.
When trying to get these tone I like my magic boxes or multi effect.
Boston, That's the name of the patch cause that who I sound like trying to get a real amp to sound just like him, way hard.
Great songs
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 17, 2010, 05:20:47 am
What's this about Van Halen Steveo!  You have a demo disc and you didn't tell me!!  What songs are on it?  I'm just curious as a girl can never learn enough or dream enuff when it comes to EVH.  Hey he was seriously cute back in the day.  He sort of even looked like his wife or his wife looked like him at one point. A gorgeous couple! I still love him though.  The booze really took a toll on him and it really shows.  He still looks rather snappy with short hair.  Hey I wouldn't kick him out of bed for eatin' crackers!  Nice bod still too and the boy  has still got some serious talent.  He's 55 and can play with the best of them!  I loved old VH with David Lee Roth though not Sammy Vanhagar!  David was a frontman like no other.  Sammy just sucked and the voice didn't impress me either.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 18, 2010, 06:50:33 pm
What's this about Van Halen Steveo!  You have a demo disc and you didn't tell me!!  What songs are on it?  I'm just curious as a girl can never learn enough or dream enuff when it comes to EVH.  Hey he was seriously cute back in the day.  He sort of even looked like his wife or his wife looked like him at one point. A gorgeous couple! I still love him though.  The booze really took a toll on him and it really shows.  He still looks rather snappy with short hair.  Hey I wouldn't kick him out of bed for eatin' crackers!  Nice bod still too and the boy  has still got some serious talent.  He's 55 and can play with the best of them!  I loved old VH with David Lee Roth though not Sammy Vanhagar!  David was a frontman like no other.  Sammy just sucked and the voice didn't impress me either.
Yeah I have there unreleased demo, These was song for all the first three records.
Dead of alive made it I think Ice cream man, eruption , like I said his tone is thinner but you can tell it's him.
I have 6000 albums and over a million songs.
I Do still love Van Halen, His tone was better than any bodies from that day to me.
The first thing too getting a his tone, More bass , less reverb and analog delay.
Delay.
Dead or alive too get that tone you on rythem you just hit the String harder amp don'
it need to be wide open.
I am broken down and dirty , dress in rags but I can whack two chords really fast and hard as you can here the two will become one but the end.
I play A and F# for that song so he may have tune up a half step.
I have to sing and play so need to make it as easy as I can.
i just hear A major which would be F# minor, still got to get the horse rhythm going at the end.
I am sure he listened to the sounds of animals to come up with the solos, sounds like he has heard a cat fight and probably geese mating as well.
You did know the sound at the start of running with the Devil is a car horn going thru a old roland space echo man that a great delay noisy but great.
Just get a analog, the tape things are cool but trouble I sold mine. 

 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 18, 2010, 07:23:06 pm
I got like 50 CDs and about 60 GB of music (I can't tell, it's in like 5 different locations).
7 of those are Taylor Swift, there's an 8th on order and a 9th underway, planning on ordering a 10th.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 18, 2010, 07:55:15 pm
I would not have this large collection but me and for or five people really like music.
Can't spell it but you will need two teara bits to get my collection.
As much as I got I still don't have it all and never will , must of this music was got form the internet some site in Europe that has good lawyers kind of keep the music free .
I have a little Taylor not much , lots of Karaoke songs by her maybe a hundred, seems there are many teen age girls who like her, I look stupid singer her songs.
I probably just look stupid playing any song, man Guitar face.
My wife and people commit about guitar face, wife wishes I did not have it.
Some people seem to think playing the guitar is painful too.
Guitar face not pretty but just can't help it.
Life is good today
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 18, 2010, 08:36:21 pm
Well I get along OK with singing/playing some of her tunes... not all of them, granted.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 18, 2010, 09:06:23 pm
Well I get along OK with singing/playing some of her tunes... not all of them, granted.
I played this on a Taylor last night in a parking lot,
People will hear it and it will move them.
Boy , girl young and old it has something primal that just say shake it, it is the only song I know by this band.
The Key is G and the G minor pentatonic should work until the C chord the I think we will change keys but really just stay in G major scale they are trying to fool you.
It you don't like this song , I can't help you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVdnqEyToqg
My favorite word it the song whoo, and mymymymy.
It rocks

I don't know any Barbara Streisand either not a single song by Lizza Menially either.
I have never played a club called the gay dolphin just know they might not like my music.
Never played the tiny ta tas club either, most be old enough to produce milk.
I will play children's songs like don't bite me and this little piggy mainly cause I like to say whee really loud 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Silverfang on October 18, 2010, 09:49:22 pm
Pinch Harmonics.

They are soo much fun, new amp, lots of gain, awesome fun. May have destroyed my plectrum though, it's as sharp as a razor now I may have got a bit over zealous.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 18, 2010, 09:54:48 pm
Get a metal pick and destroy the strings instead. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Silverfang on October 18, 2010, 10:04:52 pm
Get a metal pick and destroy the strings instead. :P

Nooo...

The pick's still usable, it's just like the sides are pretty sharp now, I could use it as a weapon... Touch my guitar, get your finger cut off by my plectrum, poetic justice (or even lyrical justice ;)).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 18, 2010, 10:26:57 pm
I tried a coin but that doesn't really work. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Silverfang on October 18, 2010, 10:33:09 pm
I tried a coin but that doesn't really work. :P

Cutting fingers off or for general guitar playing?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 18, 2010, 10:59:04 pm
It doesn't work for either... lol.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on October 19, 2010, 03:18:21 am
It doesn't work for either... lol.

I've found a quarter doesn't work too bad for some really bright sound on an acoustic. Rolls off pretty nice too so easy to do really fast strumming.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: DeadlyChicken on October 19, 2010, 03:33:22 am
Brian May seems to do ok :p

I have a few metal picks .. my sister gave them to me, they came in a credit card sized slice of metal so you could pop them out ( like the old model airplane kits ) they do have a sound of their own .. and good if you like doing those pick scrapes :p.  But be very carful of your acoustic as they can really dig in.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 19, 2010, 04:08:59 pm
Yeah, I'll stick with my 1>mm non-metal picks. I only have 3 metal fingerpicks and one metal thumb pick. I like them but I can't really work the strings like I would like to - I think it's the string spacing.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 19, 2010, 05:32:28 pm
I tried a coin but that doesn't really work. :P

Cutting fingers off or for general guitar playing?
The harmonic you was to produce metal would sound really good ar proof listen to any old ZZ top songs.
He was the first person I ever heard use those pinch harmonic back in the 60s and he use a coin, you must grind down the edges using a bench grindger.
I took and old silver 50 cent piece and made a fine pick yeah it broke so sting and it was not sharp.
The silver harder than the bronze so no wear and tear to the pick ,
No matter what the pick is made of each pick produces it on tone .
It is a small difference but too some ear it a big difference.
You take the time to here the solo to Lagrange and you tell me are you harmonic that crisp and bright, he uses a piece of metal a Mexican coin called a peso .
look it a mandolin pick this is what the coin should look like .
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 19, 2010, 07:46:23 pm
Oh, I knew I forgot someting. I still want a mandolin.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 19, 2010, 10:00:17 pm
Oh, I knew I forgot someting. I still want a mandolin.
There pick look like a coin with the edge filed down so a file and clap and emery paper would make a cool pick yeah I know they make them now but you had to make this stuff many moons ago
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 19, 2010, 10:16:15 pm
I don't know what mando I want. Tanglewood looks like a serious contender.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: bigoli on October 20, 2010, 01:29:58 am

Tonight I want to start on "Down and Out"

Boodles of fun :)
I did Down and Out last week, it is boodles of fun to play although quite different from Eric's version. I just decided I want to try transcribe the 'money for nothing' rift by Dire Straits, does any one know if this can be played normal finger style or is it some buzzy claw hammer thing?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 20, 2010, 04:45:54 am

Tonight I want to start on "Down and Out"

Boodles of fun :)
I did Down and Out last week, it is boodles of fun to play although quite different from Eric's version. I just decided I want to try transcribe the 'money for nothing' rift by Dire Straits, does any one know if this can be played normal finger style or is it some buzzy claw hammer thing?
Steveo likes.
Money for nothing I just play it,  I just played E minor and played it all from an open position only thing that sounded like the records was the vocal LOL.E minor G and A , I have it going to c and a D as well 5 chords.
I use a pick and my finger, still no blister.
If that ain't working why an I so tired, oh yeah I am not 21 anymore and it is late and I have taken a pill or two
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: DeadlyChicken on October 20, 2010, 05:13:36 am

Tonight I want to start on "Down and Out"

Boodles of fun :)
I did Down and Out last week, it is boodles of fun to play although quite different from Eric's version. I just decided I want to try transcribe the 'money for nothing' rift by Dire Straits, does any one know if this can be played normal finger style or is it some buzzy claw hammer thing?

I think its the claw .. the rhythm is what makes that riff .. and I for one cannot get my head around it  :p

some useful posts recently on the subject

http://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=23149.0
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 20, 2010, 06:30:18 am

Tonight I want to start on "Down and Out"

Boodles of fun :)
I did Down and Out last week, it is boodles of fun to play although quite different from Eric's version. I just decided I want to try transcribe the 'money for nothing' rift by Dire Straits, does any one know if this can be played normal finger style or is it some buzzy claw hammer thing?

I think its the claw .. the rhythm is what makes that riff .. and I for one cannot get my head around it  :p

some useful posts recently on the subject

http://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=23149.0
you would have no problem learn this if you learn you interval all the way to 5 i an too hammer to play but he just move from e to g the other interval are right , major scale and interval will play most songs.
yeah it is a claw style but it's the interval making the song not the thumb he got to be a great picker in his older years ,this in not hard for a person who know 2 thing a scale and interval worth learning
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 20, 2010, 06:55:15 am
Learning the solo in You shook me all night long!  It's hard to make it sound good.  I can't get the pinched harmonics in it.  It sounds much better with them but I won't worry about them for now!  Just trying to get the reverse bends down and the ghost bends in the song.  I'm really working hard to get this song down as perfectly as possible but it's going to take some time.  I always wanted to play this song on the guitar.  So motivating!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on October 20, 2010, 07:06:01 am
Learning the solo in You shook me all night long!  ....

uses G minor & G major pentatonics combined

 :)

it's a good one - good luck

I couldn't / didn't play the pinch harmonics ... still can't do them to order ... sometimes by accident  :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 20, 2010, 04:56:45 pm
Learning the solo in You shook me all night long!  ....

uses G minor & G major pentatonics combined

 :)

it's a good one - good luck

I couldn't / didn't play the pinch harmonics ... still can't do them to order ... sometimes by accident  :D
ZZ top ZZ top ZZ top
Writing it 3 time want help with the harmonic but playing it over and over again that will work.
There is a great lesson at guitarlessons365, best I ever seen on making these things you should check it out.
ZZ top ZZ top ZZ toprally in the solo to Lagrange he plays the many and there cool and the place I try to send you will make it look easy cause it really is you just need the right training all I had was a record player , look at what you have today
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 20, 2010, 09:12:22 pm
Billy Gibbons is incredibly talented.  I will watch any vid on this technique.  I still am in a quandry about this pinched harmonics and I guess I will just have to keep on practicing. 

You shook me solo might seem easy but I asure you it's far from it.  It's taken me so many hours of practice to even get the first 6 bars right!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on October 20, 2010, 10:50:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuxLORlka2w

Licks listen to this one. You see how if you don't have a high gain distortion setting they will not get the same sound.

And how you take the pick at an angle which is why I told you to rotate your wrist
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 20, 2010, 11:30:05 pm
Hey TB thank you.  Had 10 minutes in between doing the mundane stuff and watched this guy intently.  I tried it and right off the bat got it the technique!  I'm a happy and less frustrated girl now.  A million thank yous!  
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 21, 2010, 12:01:19 am
I just learnt that slapping/whacking the strings with quite some force and very often, isn't very good for the strings...
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/293/8/7/strings_commit_suicide_1_by_dusky1991-d315mpq.jpg)
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/293/3/4/strings_commit_suicide_2_by_dusky1991-d315muo.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mike42 on October 21, 2010, 05:15:01 am
Just don't put a hole through that nice Taylor of yours  ;)

The percussive slapping thing is a lot of fun though, and can spice chord progressions up quite a bit
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Silverfang on October 21, 2010, 08:57:25 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuxLORlka2w

Licks listen to this one. You see how if you don't have a high gain distortion setting they will not get the same sound.

And how you take the pick at an angle which is why I told you to rotate your wrist

Thanks TB, This has cleared up my issue, I was worried that I was doing it wrong with the pick sideways (It was the easiest way I could work out how to do it) it wasn't made very clear in Justin's video.

I've also been practising the pinch harmonics unplugged (as he mentions in the video), can't be arsed lugging the amp down to the sitting room.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: mbarrett12 on October 21, 2010, 12:45:53 pm
Nothing for a week :(  I sprained the ligaments in my arm apparently.  Can't go to my guitar lesson either :(  Gonna be a boring week
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 21, 2010, 03:23:50 pm
Just don't put a hole through that nice Taylor of yours  ;)

The percussive slapping thing is a lot of fun though, and can spice chord progressions up quite a bit
She's braced for mediums, she should be able to take a medium beating like this.

I took off an old 056 off my dad's old 12-fret parlor, now I can at least practice until I can change my strings tomorrow.
Now it's just a matter of finding the right set... dang.

I currently have:
D'Addario EJ17, EJ18, EXP12 (opened, missing high E) and EXP17
Dean Markley Helix 2083 & Alchemy GoldPhos 2048
GHS IB40M
Martin MSPLUS3200 & MSPLUS 4200
I think I want to try the Helix ones or the Alchemy again.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 21, 2010, 05:03:43 pm
Hey Guys
TB and licks he forget to say your finger will seem like metal.
I think this guy my be the best teacher on the planet.
Unlike Danny he has a nice head and his finger look like spiders but if you research him he is a machine player.
I have posted in other forums is there anybody better than this man and I have got ether nothing or No.
Fuzzy head can play.
Has some great advice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLrv0kkfUzw&NR=1


PS
I bet if you make a extra hole in a Taylor or Martin it will still play and sound fine just a little more bass or treble but if you break the bridge it will really be a hard one to fix , broke one bridge, I sold that one.
Like me pushing the back of my neck while holding the body, I may lose my head stock one day
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on October 22, 2010, 11:49:48 pm
Thanks for the link Steveo!  Can I just call ya Steve?  Forget the o?

What Guthrie Govan is saying in his vids totally makes sense.  Don't play a passage fast if you can't. Makes for learning bad habits!! Play it at the speed that you can.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 23, 2010, 02:58:28 pm
To Steveo:

Learning the intro of Church Street Blues. I transcribed it in Guitar Pro 5 but I got the timing wrong and I can't shift the notes around! LOL.

Well I can learn it anyway.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 23, 2010, 04:46:47 pm
Thanks for the link Steveo!  Can I just call ya Steve?  Forget the o?

What Guthrie Govan is saying in his vids totally makes sense.  Don't play a passage fast if you can't. Makes for learning bad habits!! Play it at the speed that you can.


Yeah with some things slow is the only way to go, with the sweeping stuff or economy picking at some point you will have to just go for the speed.

Cue  it a great song, same rule go's slow but at some point you too will have to just go for it. try solders joy as well.
I thought fuzzy head said play whats in your heart and mind.
what ever he said I listen he is a very good teacher.
Note to self try to find his lesson free , yeah I am a little stoned morphine kind of does that.
Thank G sus for Coffee.
I guess I am a half awake drunk  ;D wow my vision gets fuzzy bad
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 24, 2010, 01:04:18 am
I think I got it...

                              Church Street Blues                               


                                                                       Tony Rice
Track 1 (Capo 3)



                 C                                               
                          ^     ^       ^                         
     H        E  S S  S S E     E  S  S S S S S S  S S S S S S S 
E||--------------------------|-----------------------------------|
B||---------------------1----|----------1-----1------1-----0-----|
G||-----------------------0--|--0-------0-------2p-0-----0---0---|
D||----------------0h-2---2--|--2--2p-0-----3----------0---------|
A||--------------3-----------|------------3--------------------3-|
E||--------------------------|-----------------------------------|


      ^  ^    ^ v ^           ^     ^                                 
  S S E  S  S S S E  S S  S S E     E  S  S S S S S S  S S S  S S E   
---------------------------------|-----------------------------------|
--------------1-1-1---------1----|----------1-----1------0------1----|
----0-----------0-0-----------0--|--0---------------2p-0-------------|
--2---0--0h-2----------0h-2---2--|-----2p-0-----3----------0h-2---0--|
------3--3-----------3-----------|------------3----------------------|
---------------------------------|-----------------------------------|


     ^ v ^ v         ^  ^                                  ^ v ^   
  E  S S S S S S S S E  S  S S S    S S S S E  S S S S S S S S E   
---------------------------------|--------------------------------|
-----1-1-1-1-----------------1---|-------------1-----0-------1----|
-----0-0-0-0---------0--0h-2---2-|--0--------------0---0---0-0----|
---------------0-2-3-2--2--------|----2-0--------0---------0---0--|
--3----------3----------3--------|--------2-3------------3-----3--|
---------------------------------|--------------------------------|


                         Bm      Am                               
  ^        ^   ^  ^      ^       ^  v  ^                       v 
  S  S S S S S E  S  E.  Q       E  E  E  T  T S S S S S S S S S 
------------------------------|----------------------------------|
---------1-----1--1------3----|--1--1-----1p-0-----------------1-|
-------0---0---0--0h-2---4----|--2--2--0-------2-0-------------0-|
--0h-2-----2-3-0--0------4----|--2-----0-----------2-0-----------|
--3----------------------2----|--0---------------------2---0-2---|
------------------------------|--------------------------3-------|


     v ^             ^  ^ v           
  E  S S S  S S S E  E  S E.           
------------------------------|------||
-----1-1-------------1--1-1---|------||
-----0-0-------------0--0-0---|------||
---------------------2--2-2---|------||
--3-----------0-2-3-----------|------||
---------1h-3-----------------|------||

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 24, 2010, 01:52:07 am
To Steveo:

Learning the intro of Church Street Blues. I transcribed it in Guitar Pro 5 but I got the timing wrong and I can't shift the notes around! LOL.

Well I can learn it anyway.
I got guitar pro 5 was going to get 6 I learn nothing from it but I wish I could work it.
There is no b minor in Church street C  Am F G I think are the only chords.
Just have a Tele here and yeah it buzzes too much to play church street blues.
The main riff is like a hammer on 2rd fret G string playing in C form then it's to 4 notes back to back one is a F chord triad and the other is open G which would be all open stings seem I saw 000 I would need a magnifying glass and really may not can see that,
 pain meds got me seeing more fuzzy
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 24, 2010, 01:45:52 pm
At around 14 seconds into the song there's a Bm followed by an Am.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 24, 2010, 04:44:43 pm
At around 14 seconds into the song there's a Bm followed by an Am.
Don't hear that one, I would not even think it would be there send copy of song.
There only B minor in the key of C is the 7 chord which would make it a minor 7 flat 5 .
I have play this song longer than you have live on this planet, so prove me wrong  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on October 24, 2010, 04:57:53 pm
You're basically dissin' me because I'm younger than you, right?
That's stupid - it's about ears, not age.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JFgC3Ub10E#t=0m21s
It might not be an Am, but the Bm or something that sounds close to it is there.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on October 25, 2010, 04:49:39 pm
You're basically dissin' me because I'm younger than you, right?
That's stupid - it's about ears, not age.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JFgC3Ub10E#t=0m21s
It might not be an Am, but the Bm or something that sounds close to it is there.
I am not Dissin you in any way I am stating a fact no B minor there, and yes may ears can me this.
I listen my ears say no B minor and there is nothing even close to a B minor there I did hear and inversion of the G chord which contain the B in the bass A string.
Sorry that stating a fact that you are looking at a sound in the wrong way would upset you.
I am only say you barking up the wrong tree.
Good luck.
It is about ears and in time with the right training everyone can build there finger and ears to do things.
Our brains and our heart really make the music the ears and finger do what the brain and heart tell them to do
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 01, 2010, 02:38:17 pm
I feel the need for speed! 

Can someone recommend some speed exercises.  I can play Home Sweet Alabama but can't get it quite up to speed.  How does one practicing for speed?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on November 01, 2010, 02:53:37 pm
Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. Play with a metronome gradually increasing the tempo while playing smoothly.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 01, 2010, 04:04:07 pm
Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. Play with a metronome gradually increasing the tempo while playing smoothly.
Yeah, its D C G ,
Has a great rock lick that turns all blues grass quick but you need to get the timing first the 4/4 click really is needed.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on November 01, 2010, 04:36:52 pm
Cue where you have that Bm try playing this instead.

X
3
O
O
2
X

That's G Major inversion with a B in the bass note.

Then watch the video at about 2:09
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Borodog on November 01, 2010, 05:00:13 pm
Ok, so this is the stuff I've been working on lately. I picked all of these because I like them all a lot, can sing them all reasonably well, and each one of them has something tricky I'm trying to work on.

Take It Easy, The Eagles (accoustic rhythm). I picked this because of the chord changes on the & before the 1 instead of the 1.

Brown Eyed Girl, Van Morrison (accoustic rhythm + intro ). Picked it to try to learn the intro. I wish Justin would do a lesson on this intro. I find it to be deceptively hard. :( It looks really easy, but I don't know how I should be fingering it or really how I should be strumming/picking the two note "chords" in the intro. Right now I'm cheating it and only playing the high note of the two-note chords. It sounds ok.

A Pirate Looks At Forty, Jack Johnson version (accoustic fingerstyle). I picked the JJ version because it seems simpler. This is my first real attempt, beyond noodling, to learn a fingerstyle song. The progression is easy, I found the tab on-line, and the motion is very repetative, so it seems like a good way to start.

PS. All you guys are intimidating.


 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 01, 2010, 05:05:33 pm
So I looked up the BPM for Sweet Home Alabama and am getting too wide a variance on the beat.  Anywhere for 88 to 135 BPM.  That's just nuts.  Does anybody know what it is?  I know it's standard 4/4 timing.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 01, 2010, 05:48:53 pm
Ok, so this is the stuff I've been working on lately. I picked all of these because I like them all a lot, can sing them all reasonably well, and each one of them has something tricky I'm trying to work on.

Take It Easy, The Eagles (accoustic rhythm). I picked this because of the chord changes on the & before the 1 instead of the 1.

Brown Eyed Girl, Van Morrison (accoustic rhythm + intro ). Picked it to try to learn the intro. I wish Justin would do a lesson on this intro. I find it to be deceptively hard. :( It looks really easy, but I don't know how I should be fingering it or really how I should be strumming/picking the two note "chords" in the intro. Right now I'm cheating it and only playing the high note of the two-note chords. It sounds ok.

A Pirate Looks At Forty, Jack Johnson version (accoustic fingerstyle). I picked the JJ version because it seems simpler. This is my first real attempt, beyond noodling, to learn a fingerstyle song. The progression is easy, I found the tab on-line, and the motion is very repetative, so it seems like a good way to start.

PS. All you guys are intimidating.

Well Eagle mat favorite band play and sing about all of there stuff , keep it up and you will get it.
You really should practice and learn interval.
The intro to brown eyed girl very simple try a G chord E shape 3 fret then a 6th interval will help you it is 3 chord.
G C G D .
Yeah I am going to have to say a pirate looks at 40 is my theme song.
It is easy to get intimidated, please remember this is a note , unless your PC has a bomb in it your going to be fine.
Justin has new lesson I think there call aural lesson, I did not think it was going to be as good as it was but they turned out really good, everyone who has to use tab should really spend a little time working on this only a few minute a day maybe 15 and you will be good.
Sorry if I make any one feel bad, I tell the truth and the truth hurts or it sets you free.
It is your choice I would let what hurt's to bad go and fly freely myself . ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 01, 2010, 06:58:18 pm
Cue where you have that Bm try playing this instead.

X
3
O
O
2
X

That's G Major inversion with a B in the bass note.

Then watch the video at about 2:09


Cool, thanks! But then where/what's that minor sound I'm hearing around that time as well?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 01, 2010, 07:32:52 pm

PS. All you guys are intimidating.


Why do you say that?  I think this is a pretty friendly non-intimidating community forum!!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Borodog on November 01, 2010, 08:13:25 pm

PS. All you guys are intimidating.


Why do you say that?  I think this is a pretty friendly non-intimidating community forum!!

I meant playing wise. I look at the videos getting posted and I feel like that if I post something, it will undoubtably be the worst thing posted any given week. ;)


Take that Cue Zephyr kid, for example. What is that kid, 14 years old? His playing on Fire and Rain was great.

The mountain looks awfully high when you are standing at the foot is all I am saying . . .

Stevo, are you saying the Brown Eyed Girl intro uses triad chords and not diad chords?


Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 01, 2010, 09:26:09 pm
Yeah
Dog the E B G and D string have some cool triad chord shape in them so I am say to play the part of the Brown eye girl song look at these it's like sliding and F shape bare chord around then you can get thos 6th with the D shape just sliding note.
I think cue is older than 14 and his playing has improved guess it's call practice.
You can do it  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on November 01, 2010, 09:45:25 pm
Quote
Cool, thanks! But then where/what's that minor sound I'm hearing around that time as well?

Actually the more I listen... try this.

3
3
O
X -- muted with middle finger sort of laying over
2
X

Play that followed by Am. Then play a Bm followed by Am. Tthe Bm should now sound dissonant in comparison.



Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 01, 2010, 09:46:07 pm

PS. All you guys are intimidating.


Why do you say that?  I think this is a pretty friendly non-intimidating community forum!!

I meant playing wise. I look at the videos getting posted and I feel like that if I post something, it will undoubtably be the worst thing posted any given week. ;)


Take that Cue Zephyr kid, for example. What is that kid, 14 years old? His playing on Fire and Rain was great.

The mountain looks awfully high when you are standing at the foot is all I am saying . . .

Stevo, are you saying the Brown Eyed Girl intro uses triad chords and not diad chords?




*shies away and quietly says "thank you very much"*

:D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: LievenDV on November 01, 2010, 09:59:03 pm
3
3
O
X -- muted with middle finger sort of laying over
2
X

or; when playing without a pick; grab a regular Gmaj and let fingers 3-2-1 pick that 3 3 0 ... your thumb you can use to pick that 2
(that's how I would play it, as I hardly use a pick)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 01, 2010, 10:18:09 pm
Borodog we all have to start somewhere.  I see your point of what you say and it's scary at first but things will get better.  Just play, practice and have fun.  You will get there.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on November 01, 2010, 10:36:25 pm
@ borodog

there have been some good vids lately no doubt

but there are also some vids of those same people in that thread going back in time when their skills were just developing too

go back in time to see your favourites and how they progressed

also
there are some vids of beginners just getting togrips with the basics

so don't be shy

we are a non-competitive, non-threatening, fully-supportive, mutually-encouraging group and will give the best comment and advice that we can based on what we see and hear

sometimes that is just well done, keep it up

sometimes that is very detailed in-depth analysis of technique

give it a go

 :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on November 01, 2010, 10:38:01 pm
ps

Cue Zephyr is old enough to vote and to participate in many other nefarious activities

 :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 01, 2010, 10:43:35 pm
TB,

That might be it then.

I apologize to Steveo.

Lieven,

I want to learn to flatpick, so Mr. Resident Wannabe-Fingerstylist will be using a pick this time! :D

c2u,

LOL. xD
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on November 02, 2010, 03:50:34 am
I have been learning the intro solo to one by metallica.
I am also getting a laptop in this week and I have my guitar port from my old computer so possibly some recordings and maybe even some video's.

I've also been thinking about learning Canon rock but the tab is just about 23 pages depending on the version, and I haven't decided whether I want to learn the Jerryc version or the Mattrach version. But at 23 pages I'm just considering something else lol.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 02, 2010, 04:56:07 pm
Cue where you have that Bm try playing this instead.

X
3
O
O
2
X

That's G Major inversion with a B in the bass note.

Then watch the video at about 2:09


Cool, thanks! But then where/what's that minor sound I'm hearing around that time as well?
Cue there is no chord but C, A minor F and G.
I posted church street here as a tune to learn, I will suggest you stop watching a video and just listen.
There are no note other than note that are in C major and there is just 4 chords.
The hand is faster than the eye so use the ears , I listen to the break I think he is just playing  F and G at that time spot, could be wrong on that I am not wrong about the chords or notes played all C major.
The reason I say I am not sure is because you keep asking about a B minor which does not exists in this song.
TB has showed you the chord which I just wrote as G/B pages back but all I got was you hurt my feelings.
As I wrote most of the G chords that are fast are all open strings.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 02, 2010, 06:22:19 pm
Alright, ignore my apology then.
+ I assume you are not familiar with the 'pause' function?

Brushing up on Ladies Night and Memories of the Future - think I will be performing bits of those songs for the audition for the talent show at school. I have 10 minutes - anything else I should stuff in those minutes?
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 02, 2010, 07:04:53 pm
Quote
Cool, thanks! But then where/what's that minor sound I'm hearing around that time as well?

Actually the more I listen... try this.

3
3
O
X -- muted with middle finger sort of laying over
2
X

Play that followed by Am. Then play a Bm followed by Am. Tthe Bm should now sound dissonant in comparison.


I have played this song over 20 year and a half dozen times today/
there a capo so where really in E flat and you are right in saying that B minor and A minor go together in key of G or Capo that would be B b.

There is no B minor in this song and saying a G chord with a B note in the bass don't make it so, yes you could look at the notes and I agree the tones are close but where still talk A G major with a b as the bass note and add the B string note, it's still major to my ears.

My brains too.
I can play a G 7th chord and take the bass note out it is a B minor7th b 5 and as I move the shape around I am sure it really become different chords, even to my ear it is a new or another chord it is my brain that says it's just a 7th chord, thanks G sus I can hear and just throw away the stuff the make me think to much.
All the thinking can mess you up, I prefer feeling over thinking, guess that's why I am simple minded, but even a simple mind can tell a major from a minor chord.
We are talking a bluegrass song too , just don't hear a B minor there it's a G with spice, if you hearing a B minor make your brain stop,
 that it is confusing a minor and a major chord sound different.
Very Different, close your eyes and play both a G chord and them play a B minor if you hear the same thing, stop what you are doing and close your eyes again.
Repeat this over and over till you can hear a difference in these chords.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 03, 2010, 05:18:10 am
I'm learning Rocking in the free world by Neil Young.  This is in the key of Em and it's fairly easy.  My teacher gave me this song to learn because I was getting so frustrated with the last part of the You shook me all night long solo.  I'm having trouble with it.  It's a little more advanced for me but I will nail the sucker to the wall!  I'm having so much damned fun doing the Neil Young tune that when I went back and tried the AC/DC solo I did so much better.  I think it's the confidence that was given to me by playing Neil's song.  I even managed to come up with a nice little Am bluesy chord progression that develops into a really nice jazzed out minor pentatonic solo.  Here I was getting so bummed out over the solo that I forgot to rock out and let my hair loose.  Now I'm feeling so much better and my confidence is back to where it should be.  The excitement is back and I'm feeling it!

I'm feeling the urge to buy another guitar.  A red one.  Too many to choose from.  My son bought me a buyers catalogue. 
I'm really starting to like the shape of the flying V.  Dave Mustaine's VMNT Angel of Deth is my fav flying V so far. It's $1800 though.  Maybe Christmas.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on November 03, 2010, 05:30:05 am
Flying V's are sick, but I LOVE the gibson V's, I want either a wood grain or a white one. And confidence is key. You have to KNOW you're going to nail it. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 03, 2010, 03:45:19 pm
Alright, ignore my apology then.
+ I assume you are not familiar with the 'pause' function?

Brushing up on Ladies Night and Memories of the Future - think I will be performing bits of those songs for the audition for the talent show at school. I have 10 minutes - anything else I should stuff in those minutes?
I did not see you Cue even the letter i just wrote is gone and it was funny and had some advise on bluegrass my train of thought is gone now.
I do not get mad a people even when they say bad things.
TB always gave me good advise I see he is human now and can make a mistake, no B minor in that sweet tune.
I miss the link of the JT song, Cue I have ask you ???? and not got answers.
so I am not the only person who can miss things, Human.
I have played Church street so many times in the last few days.
Blue grass in about feeling more than speed ,more than thinking in fact take just what it is Timing and feeling and always playing it the easiest way, which is the way I look at songs.

I will ave too come back to this.
Lick drop the pick and thump the G C and D chord just the Big strings get the timing right for the AC/DC song.
I had a flying V Gibson I got it long ago , yeah I sold it.
I think I would go with the Gibson I would hurt myself with a Jackson or hurt some else by accident.
I liked  putting the V on my hip and burning the neck up. ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 04, 2010, 02:56:53 am
Having a blast making up my own solo in Em for Rockin' in the free world.  I saw Neil do this solo on Youtube with Pearl Jam and it looks like the poor guy is having an epileptic fit.  He's incredible but the busta moves look so disjointed.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on November 05, 2010, 01:21:06 pm
@steveo2

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TB always gave me good advise I see he is human now and can make a mistake, no B minor in that sweet tune.

I never said there was a Bm in there. I said it was a B/G same as you. I even pointed out the place in the video which clearly showed him playing that chord. He plays B/G to Am.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 05, 2010, 03:31:53 pm
@steveo2

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TB always gave me good advise I see he is human now and can make a mistake, no B minor in that sweet tune.

I never said there was a Bm in there. I said it was a B/G same as you. I even pointed out the place in the video which clearly showed him playing that chord. He plays B/G to Am.


TB man your the best , I wrote so much nice things about you in the letter that just went away.
You are a super caring guy who advise is always good, it was my Mistake I mis=read the reply I will post TB replay now.
Actually the more I listen... try this.

3
3
O
X -- muted with middle finger sort of laying over
2
X

Play that followed by Am. Then play a Bm followed by Am. Tthe Bm should now sound dissonant in comparison.

Since there was no B minor and your first one I think is better only meaning I am not sure of this muted string It probably is muted I know I mute it sometimes.
I had some personal problem happening and just reading the words play B minor when I have been explaining this song for months made me insane for a second.
Human too.
As always TB is right, I messed up again.
Your advise is always helpful and is still right, but you are human.
A really good one too.
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on November 05, 2010, 03:55:18 pm
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I am not sure of this muted string It probably is muted I know I mute it sometimes.

I think muting it and also playing the high g sounds good. Just a little happier going to the Am.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 05, 2010, 06:30:33 pm
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I am not sure of this muted string It probably is muted I know I mute it sometimes.

I think muting it and also playing the high g sounds good. Just a little happier going to the Am.


Indeed, I add like D on the B string so much I don't even know I am doing it.
I do hear what your saying so true, I have notice this before also removing the B   A string from for the G chord I do this often as well.
May be the same reason just seems to work, I thought is was because the song needed it removed, but it may be that it makes it more happy sounding.
Thanks again
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: flyhead on November 05, 2010, 09:55:24 pm
Just learnt 'Happy Birthday' on the ukelele. A pal has a birthday party tomorrow and I need to freak him out with some koa madness.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 05, 2010, 10:26:20 pm
I love koa. I want a Taylor 714ce-LTD Koa. Sadly it'll be nowhere to be found by the time I have the cash. I'd better get a Lowden F35C K(oa)/C(edar) right away by that time. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 05, 2010, 10:59:11 pm
Just learnt 'Happy Birthday' on the ukelele. A pal has a birthday party tomorrow and I need to freak him out with some koa madness.
Cool when you play it backwards it may mean something bad,
Birthdays are cool have a blast, it's funny the more birthdays I get the more I want another.
Happy birthday a cool interval learning song as well start with a major second  :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: flyhead on November 05, 2010, 11:14:56 pm
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Happy birthday a cool interval learning song as well start with a major second  :)
I play the death-metal version on my uke and always start with a tritone.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 05, 2010, 11:32:44 pm
Tritones are awesome.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 05, 2010, 11:33:06 pm
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Happy birthday a cool interval learning song as well start with a major second  :)
I play the death-metal version on my uke and always start with a tritone.
Now I know it would sound evil backwards but in death metal that maybe the tone you want evil tone ;D

I did not know KOA was not going to be around.
I have played some that looked pretty but I was not crazy about the tone , about the same with any guitar and any wood.

I have played many maple Taylors I think they were 700 series they all sounded good and maple being so stable a wood, I bet they get a little louder when they age, I have played some old J 200 Gibson and they sounded good.
I am not even sure of what Koa is but I have some the look of that wood maybe not the same but close all over Asia.

  
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 05, 2010, 11:38:00 pm
Koa? Well what do you want, it only grows on the island of Hawaii, and only above 1500 ft. or so. Bob Taylor also said Koa is such an unpredictable wood, and it could be that just one out of a hundred pieces of it are actually suitable for building a guitar (or uke for that matter) with.

The maple Taylors are the 600 series, btw. I think they make great stage guitars. 700 series are rosewood back and sides with cedar tops. I personally like the 714ce-LTD koa quite a lot.
As far as I can remember all the rosewoods (dalbergia) are more stable from log to log, less so with mahogany apparently.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 06, 2010, 07:57:39 pm
Koa? Well what do you want, it only grows on the island of Hawaii, and only above 1500 ft. or so. Bob Taylor also said Koa is such an unpredictable wood, and it could be that just one out of a hundred pieces of it are actually suitable for building a guitar (or uke for that matter) with.

The maple Taylors are the 600 series, btw. I think they make great stage guitars. 700 series are rosewood back and sides with cedar tops. I personally like the 714ce-LTD koa quite a lot.
As far as I can remember all the rosewoods (dalbergia) are more stable from log to log, less so with mahogany apparently.
I do know where we call Koa comes from,they have made Uke's from this wood a long time.
I think maybe the tree is a smaller tree I am guessing.
Do know hard wood is sold buy the log, at some point the board foot come into play.
I know my mahogany guitar is the most stable even sounding guitar I have ever heard or play in all my years, but I have heard all kind of bad story's of a bad log .
A big log now that a good log and a great song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otp4N38ABC0
 ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 06, 2010, 08:26:27 pm
Apparently the quality of mahogany has gone down over the years. I read a discussion a while ago about mahogany and rosewood. It was stated that rosewood sounds pretty contstant over various pieces of wood, but that mahogany can vary alot. The main question was if mahogany could sound like rosewood or vice versa. Somebody said that rosewood could never sound like mahogany, as it is pretty consistent. Mahogany can vary so much that it can actually sound close to a rosewood.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 06, 2010, 11:12:05 pm
Apparently the quality of mahogany has gone down over the years. I read a discussion a while ago about mahogany and rosewood. It was stated that rosewood sounds pretty contstant over various pieces of wood, but that mahogany can vary alot. The main question was if mahogany could sound like rosewood or vice versa. Somebody said that rosewood could never sound like mahogany, as it is pretty consistent. Mahogany can vary so much that it can actually sound close to a rosewood.
Yeah I would agree,  still say the I have never heard a Mahogany guitar sound like a rosewood but it is possible,I bet it's wood be louder than the rosewood and lighter too.
  My Mahogany made of old wood, I bet some maker some where has a stash of some good old wood.
I would think it will cost you.

Big Log still a cool song
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 07, 2010, 12:40:19 am
Yeah indeed, rosewood is heavy and quieter and less midrangey than mahogany. I think for recording I would prefer mahogany over rosewood. Maple is great too, but I've only found it to sound useful in an Eastman. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 07, 2010, 03:12:48 am
All the notes that sound good over an A CHORD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EqIOUsg6M
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 07, 2010, 03:34:21 pm
And, what notes ound good over an Ammaj6-9#5b11?

:P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 07, 2010, 03:52:24 pm
And, what notes ound good over an Ammaj6-9#5b11?

:P
I see a ? MARK.
All the notes of the major scale will work  if you watch the clip you see many chromatic notes sound pretty good.
12 notes and there is a little piece of A in every note which one you chose is really up to you.
He guy is good not many people see him.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: routerbooter on November 08, 2010, 12:40:44 am
Just started transcribing Texas Flood, and wow!!!  What a great song to a) improve your string bending, and b) to give a seemingly inexhaustable number of minor pentatonic licks to add to your arsenal.  Only thing is, don't try and practice its in standard tuning - tune down to e flat, firstly and obviously, because the original song is in e flat, but also there are SO many bends on the high e string pretty high up the neck - using G minor pent, mostly pos 1 and 2 - that I snapped 2 high e strings within a week, before realising that the poor little string couldn't handle the abuse of the extra tension.  I'm using 10s though - if you're brave enough to try the song with 11s or 12s then you might not have that problem, but good luck to you!!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on November 08, 2010, 02:42:45 am
Just started transcribing Texas Flood, and wow!!!  What a great song to a) improve your string bending, and b) to give a seemingly inexhaustable number of minor pentatonic licks to add to your arsenal.  Only thing is, don't try and practice its in standard tuning - tune down to e flat, firstly and obviously, because the original song is in e flat, but also there are SO many bends on the high e string pretty high up the neck - using G minor pent, mostly pos 1 and 2 - that I snapped 2 high e strings within a week, before realising that the poor little string couldn't handle the abuse of the extra tension.  I'm using 10s though - if you're brave enough to try the song with 11s or 12s then you might not have that problem, but good luck to you!!

SRV used 12's lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 08, 2010, 11:49:57 am
I actually finished transcribing Just South of Knowing Why and Closest to a Cowboy.
x)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 09, 2010, 02:14:46 pm
Practicing going from a power chord to an open chord.   Sounds extremely easy but it isn't!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 09, 2010, 03:57:02 pm
I use powerchords as open chords... xD
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 09, 2010, 06:05:44 pm
Wow
I never had too learn the song Texas flood but I can play every instrument in it.
I love SRV but I knew that song way before SRV wrote it, it was a shuffle and I had played that time signature before.
I use 9 s for my E , if the blues is all you play and your hands are in good shape the bigger the string the better.

I have just been playing and note learning much new, In Blues I have found some very cool chromatic type stuff.
Most blues is the Minor pentatonic if you add the b5 or flat 5 you will get the blues.
I would say 99.9 % or high 90 stay with in this two scales .

Country music and some cool SRV licks use the Major and Minor pentatonic scale together as well as a host of chromatic stuff

Rock on
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 10, 2010, 06:23:25 am
Made up my very own blues song in Am.  My teacher added some notes to it to make it sound complete and WOW I'm totally in love with what my two hands and brain has created.  I came back from my lesson totally stoked and with a rapid heart beat.  How exciting this adventure still is!
I'm rocking to the beat of my own drummer.  It doesn't get better than this!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 10, 2010, 04:11:54 pm
Made up my very own blues song in Am.  My teacher added some notes to it to make it sound complete and WOW I'm totally in love with what my two hands and brain has created.  I came back from my lesson totally stoked and with a rapid heart beat.  How exciting this adventure still is!
I'm rocking to the beat of my own drummer.  It doesn't get better than this!
Wish I new how to post, when playing the blues I have come up with some very cool licks using the blues scale, you basically add the b 5th but you can raise the 5th or sharpen it this give you so many more notes and will change your playing.
The Dorian mode hold some cool note as well for the blues all thes note will sound bad if you stay on them so there not note to stay on they just another favor or color to the mix.

It is very cool to play bare chords and let the open string like B and E strings ring.
E form and A form chords, good droning
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lemming on November 16, 2010, 12:14:01 pm
I'm trying to learn how to improvise more but struggling, I put a comment in the link below but I dont think it gets visited regularly so I figured I'd try here as it's still "learning" ...... if any of the Mods want to remove it that's okay, just thought I'd ask ...

http://justinguitarcommunity.com/?topic=18400.0

Any advice welcome ......
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: David V on November 16, 2010, 01:18:42 pm
Have you taken a look at Justin's Lead Blues course?  It is excellent.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 17, 2010, 06:48:45 am
I'm trying to learn how to improvise more but struggling, I put a comment in the link below but I dont think it gets visited regularly so I figured I'd try here as it's still "learning" ...... if any of the Mods want to remove it that's okay, just thought I'd ask ...

http://justinguitarcommunity.com/?topic=18400.0

Any advice welcome ......

No worries Lem I'm havin' those probs too!  I'm using the minor scale to improvise with and the key I think to learning any scale is to find out where the root notes are for starters and trying to remember the damned scale shapes.  I don't know why but the pentatonic scale is like child's play for me.  Damn I can't remember those stupid minor scales like I can the pentatonic.  I wish I had a memory chip that I could install in my brain.  My teacher tonight told me not to over analyze things and just keep on practicing.  He knows me by now!  I worry over everything that I'm not doing correctly.  What scales are you wanting to play in? I'm sure that Steveo will come along soon and tell you about the benefits of learning the major scale!  I would definitely take a look at David's suggestions.  David has been a great source of help to me and has never steered me wrong.  So have a look see!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lemming on November 17, 2010, 12:21:54 pm
Lol, Licks, Steveo may be along soon to help but I can never understand what he's putting & usually have a headache by the time I've figured it out  :D

I had a look at what David said & have gone through some of the vids, I reckon he's right but wanted to see if anyone else had any suggestions as well, however, I reckon it's time to bite the bullet & order the Lead Blues course ........ watch this space !!

(any other suggestions meantime still welcome .... )  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: David V on November 17, 2010, 01:35:31 pm
I guess I'll just add that ultimately you'll want to try working out solos in the styles you want to play and see what moves others are using.  That can be hard and a bit discouraging though if you don't have some idea of common techniques and licks.  So far the blues course has been a good thing for me because the concepts (what scales to use when etc..) are relatively simple.  Even a lot of the greats use mostly just the minor pentatonic/blues scale.

But after having done a fair bit of work on blues, I've gone back and been able to work out some major scale type solos that I couldn't before.  I think that even if you're not planning to play blues in the end, the blues course could be very useful to you.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 17, 2010, 02:08:43 pm
I'm mucking around with single note lines and I learned I Know What I Want by Taylor Swift. It's not much interesting, but I like the fact that it's in drop-D tning.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 17, 2010, 02:52:12 pm
I guess I'll just add that ultimately you'll want to try working out solos in the styles you want to play and see what moves others are using.  That can be hard and a bit discouraging though if you don't have some idea of common techniques and licks.  So  I think that even if you're not planning to play blues in the end, the blues course could be very useful to you.


!00% right IMHO  It will give you a lot of useful insight on exactly what's going on.  I was thinking of ordering this to.  Solo work is really hard but it's helps if you have knowledge as to how to figure this stuff out. 

P.S.  My teacher has been playing for 35 years and he said to me that he has so much more to learn.  I felt like saying that your such an excellent player, you have toured the world with your band like can't you be happy with what you know.  I should of said this but didn't.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 17, 2010, 04:21:19 pm
Yeah
The major scale is the way.
You would need to understand this scale to understand about any thing I say, cause everything I know is base on this scale.
think of it in steps.
W W H W W W H.
Each person brain will learn in a different way I am close to being able to write it so simple if you did not understand it you would need to be checked for a learning dis-ability.
I am a simple man,think simple.
Hope all here gets this scale, playing it in chords is the best way to understand it and just playing melodies will teach you more than playing hour of endless boring scales.
Always let your ear guild you.
 ;D 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: flyhead on November 17, 2010, 04:58:01 pm
Always let your ear guild you.
I need to use a Black & Decker to erase some rather disturbing images from my mind's eye.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 17, 2010, 06:23:07 pm
Try some acid or alkaline of some sorts, too. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 17, 2010, 10:35:16 pm
Hey does anyone have any tips or tricks to remembering the stupid root notes for the 5 different scale positons for the minor scale?  I really understand the concept well it's just the stupid memory part of it along with remembering everything else there is to remember.  Feeling a bit overwhelmed.  :'(

Need to get fluidity to my solos and if I can't remember where shape they are then it's gets frustrating.  I don't see the E shape or whatever other shapes there are to them. 

and no...............I'm not embracing the suck!!! :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on November 17, 2010, 11:02:59 pm
Lemming,

first off, if you have a backing track that is 4 minutes long. Very few people can just start jamming over that and keep it really interesting for the entire time. So if it's a 12 bar blues, just think about taking a solo for 12 bars and not 4 minutes.

The easiest way to start your improv is with few notes that hang out on the root note a lot. So in a 12 bar I IV V you will have 4 bars one chord. In A that would be A C# E and G if you are playing an A7. So try to get some sort of groove / phrase going with those notes. then when it changes to D7 maybe try a lick or two out of your A Min Pent box but try to make it tie into whatever you developed in the prior 4 bars. When it goes back to the A7 you could stay with the Min Pent or go back to strict chord tones. For the final 4 bars you could go Min Pent again and/or use a turn around.

If you do that without going overboard the first 12 bars, then the next 12 you could play some rhythm stabs and a couple simple licks. the next 12 you could expand on your ideas.  Again if you intend to do that for 4 minutes and keep it varied and interesting, that is a tall order.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on November 18, 2010, 06:45:14 am
Licks-

Root positions are the same for the minors as they are for any other scale. You know where the root notes are in your open chords, right? Just imagine playing those same chords in a moveable barre chord and the roots are in the same places relative to your index finger..... if you imagine your index finger as the nut. Quite basically put, but imagining it that way helped me.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 18, 2010, 05:08:25 pm
Licks-

Root positions are the same for the minors as they are for any other scale. You know where the root notes are in your open chords, right? Just imagine playing those same chords in a moveable barre chord and the roots are in the same places relative to your index finger..... if you imagine your index finger as the nut. Quite basically put, but imagining it that way helped me.
Yeah it's is 5 chords, trying to play the whole scale is not as important as just knowing the five shapes.
To me about the only chord that sounds funny moved an changed to the minor chord is C open.

Take an hour each day and work on the scale, also take about 5 or ten minute to log your progress, this work for guitar and about any thing you wish to learn ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lemming on November 18, 2010, 05:59:15 pm
Thanks Guys, there's a lot of helpful stuff there !! I also emailed Wish & Licks for advice, but the thing that really hit home is what both Wish & TB said, just cos the backing track is xx minutes long doesnt mean I have to solo for xx minutes !?!?

I know I need some structure to build on as everything I know is pretty much self taught or picked up from tabs (king of the intro's anyone ??), so like Wish said, I need to have a good foundation ....... also need to start recording or vidding myself to chart any progress .... I have a Boss Micro BR that I think is gonna get dug out ..... and, hang on, (tosses coin) .... yep, I'll be getting the course  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 18, 2010, 08:42:06 pm
Licks-

Root positions are the same for the minors as they are for any other scale. You know where the root notes are in your open chords, right? Just imagine playing those same chords in a moveable barre chord and the roots are in the same places relative to your index finger..... if you imagine your index finger as the nut. Quite basically put, but imagining it that way helped me.

I get it but if I want to play a minor chord in the Em scale could I also play an inverted minor chord on the B and high E strings.  Not sure about this.  So far I'm playing the 3 4 and 5th position of the minor scale.  I'm emphasizing the 1, 4 and the 7 degree of the scale
E A and D but it's not sharp.  It should be because there is a D# in the Em scale.Don't get that!   Or should I stick to the 1 4 5 of the scale? 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on November 18, 2010, 08:57:54 pm
Licks-

The E Harmonic Minor scale has a D# (natural 7). The E Natural Minor scale (Aeolian.... or that based off the 6th degree of the Major scale) has the D (b7).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 18, 2010, 09:41:50 pm
Licks-

The E Harmonic Minor scale has a D# (natural 7). The E Natural Minor scale (Aeolian.... or that based off the 6th degree of the Major scale) has the D (b7).

Okay that makes total sense following the wwhwwwh theory!

Thanks WB!  Always to my rescue.  Your such a sweet heart <3!!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on November 20, 2010, 12:51:14 pm
  100 pages. Awesome! Back on topic:
  Starting to learn Manic Depression by Jimi Hendrix(if you didn't already know that ;))! :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 20, 2010, 02:34:58 pm
  100 pages. Awesome! Back on topic:
  Starting to learn Manic Depression by Jimi Hendrix(if you didn't already know that ;))! :)
Look like some is gaining experience , nothing like experience.
If he live h would have sounded like Eric Johnson and maybe a dozen or more player for soul , srv is very close and stole some of his licks too.
Good luck
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: lorezolutions on November 22, 2010, 04:18:17 pm
this weekend I spent some time working out the riffs to smokestack lightening and 20th Century Boy.

Add to that working thought the riffs from the blues lead course and the backing track.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 22, 2010, 04:24:35 pm
I'm messing around with improvisation... with still no scales practised.
Just, playing notes, watching what I do, trying to work into my mind which intervals go where (having a lot of trouble with the G-B/3rd-2nd string transition).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 22, 2010, 04:38:10 pm
I'm messing around with improvisation... with still no scales practised.
Just, playing notes, watching what I do, trying to work into my mind which intervals go where (having a lot of trouble with the G-B/3rd-2nd string transition).
I am a little lost, if you are playing single lines or even two notes you are playing some form of scale.
I have learned a really cool thing just playing the caged chords, I will post it soon and it came to me by trying to study a week or two ago.
it is long so it will take time.
I guess I have heard this in my head for years but can put in into words.
I am trying to show the chord and out use Justins chords chart as this is my thinking about this simple chords.
When play chords I have come up with cool stuff play the 1st and 2rd inversions of the chords sound like a lead but this is 3 and 4 note patterns.
Good luck Cue ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 22, 2010, 07:13:31 pm
'Playing some form of scale' is one thing, but I haven't practised scales specifically.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on November 22, 2010, 07:57:48 pm
(having a lot of trouble with the G-B/3rd-2nd string transition).

You're not alone on that one! I still keep getting confused at times with that. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 22, 2010, 08:01:28 pm
I know the pattern (kind-of) just repeats, I just forget that that transition is there.
I need a mandolin quickly. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: knighty 1 on November 22, 2010, 10:32:14 pm

  Having been on here for a couple of years and making sure i've got all the begginers course down ,i've started with justins solo blues course.
 My father died at the weekend and i really want to get into it,so i've started with the solo blues 1 and am learning the free giving from justin first, its got a great feel and i can see myself spending hours on it,it'll take my mind of everything  :'(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on November 22, 2010, 10:43:27 pm
Hey Knighty - condolences Dude - it is a very tough time losing your father. I went for a 62km run the day after my Dads funeral - immersing yourself is good, but use it to remember the good things. I thought about my Dad a lot that day and I still fondly remember that run.

So why not pick out a piece that you can dedicate to your Dads memory?

Just a thought......
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on November 22, 2010, 11:22:45 pm
Sorry for your loss. Hang in there.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on November 22, 2010, 11:54:02 pm
'Playing some form of scale' is one thing, but I haven't practised scales specifically.

I recommend practicing the scales then Cue. I put it off for the longest time but once I started my understanding of the fretboard and how it was put together leaped beyond what I thought I would ever bother with. You start to learn the patterns and it all becomes fairly simple after hours and hours of practice. :P But to each their own.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 23, 2010, 01:55:54 am
I can find my intervals just fine. The rest is for later, I guess. I have not studied the scales extensively, but if you'd ask me the five positions of the major scale I probably wouldn't have too much difficulty with it (I might mess up on the notes below the lowest root note, though). It's more the thing about knowing where I am, so I can avoid certain notes (like fourths over the 'underlying' chord). Also traying my ears to know which interval sits where in the key.

Sorry for your loss, knighty.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Phalanx on November 23, 2010, 01:48:25 pm
Because I was bored last night I put up the basic 12 bar blues in A backing track and started to play some licks. It most likely sounded horrible and it probably didn't have very good technique but improvising over backing tracks is so much fun. :P

I actually put it on my practise routine because it really is great fun, so hopefully my improvising will improve soon. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: LievenDV on November 23, 2010, 01:59:22 pm

I actually put it on my practise routine because it really is great fun, so hopefully my improvising will improve soon. :)

good thing!
somewhere in the middle of my very variable and organic practice sessions, I turn on a beat and start off with some improvising over a pretty cliché A-D-E progression. The clue is to keep feeling the rhythm and the chord going on and make the chordswitches in my head while I solo over my own imaginary chord progression. I find it a good exercise on my fields and improvising with a turnaround by hasing up the typical turnarounds tends to be tricky at times :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on November 23, 2010, 02:03:28 pm
@ knighty
sympathies and sadness for your loss
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 23, 2010, 02:49:40 pm

  Having been on here for a couple of years and making sure i've got all the begginers course down ,i've started with justins solo blues course.
 My father died at the weekend and i really want to get into it,so i've started with the solo blues 1 and am learning the free giving from justin first, its got a great feel and i can see myself spending hours on it,it'll take my mind of everything  :'(

So sorry for your loss! I can relate!  I just lost my father May 24th of this year!  It's good to be as busy as you can be.  It really does help with the grieving process!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Phalanx on November 23, 2010, 05:54:14 pm

I actually put it on my practise routine because it really is great fun, so hopefully my improvising will improve soon. :)

good thing!
somewhere in the middle of my very variable and organic practice sessions, I turn on a beat and start off with some improvising over a pretty cliché A-D-E progression. The clue is to keep feeling the rhythm and the chord going on and make the chordswitches in my head while I solo over my own imaginary chord progression. I find it a good exercise on my fields and improvising with a turnaround by hasing up the typical turnarounds tends to be tricky at times :)
Yeah, that's true. But when starting out I guess you don't really need to worry about the changes, right? The 12 bar blues backing track is in A and all of the licks I used (mostly from the lead guitar course) are also in A.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 23, 2010, 06:52:37 pm
'Playing some form of scale' is one thing, but I haven't practised scales specifically.
Yeah your not going to get to Church st that way, I can sure your playing scales , even if your just playing chords you play all seven chords in the scale , well that's the scale. ;D

good luck
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 23, 2010, 07:37:57 pm
I know how scales work.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: knighty 1 on November 24, 2010, 12:37:13 am

  Thanks everyone much appreiated,lovely bunch of people on here :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on November 24, 2010, 01:30:31 am

  Thanks everyone much appreiated,lovely bunch of people on here :)

Yeah sorry to hear about your Dad man.

I've been playing a lot of speed metal, just practicing my muted percussive picking while running through minor and Phyrigian scales. Also been working on harmonies with a guitar player I know and we've been learning Breaking the Law by Judas Priest, Simple but a lot of fun. :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 24, 2010, 01:58:17 am
Try Locrian too. :P

Soon I will not be posting here anymore.
"Why not?"
I hope to get a mandolin very soon!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 24, 2010, 06:18:06 am

  Thanks everyone much appreiated,lovely bunch of people on here :)

Yeah sorry to hear about your Dad man.

I've been playing a lot of speed metal, just practicing my muted percussive picking while running through minor and Phyrigian scales. Also been working on harmonies with a guitar player I know and we've been learning Breaking the Law by Judas Priest, Simple but a lot of fun. :D

Casey are you doing any "speed" exercises?  I'm looking for something to increase my dexterity and speed.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 24, 2010, 04:30:27 pm

  Thanks everyone much appreiated,lovely bunch of people on here :)
I missed this , truly sorry for your lose, I don't expect my Mother to live much longer.
I hope to die in the way I have dream of for most of my life.
I do not think about death to much, I accept it as part of life.

Having a hard time posting this thread takes me too long to down loaded it has got very long.
 
Thanks for sharing  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 24, 2010, 11:41:42 pm

  Thanks everyone much appreiated,lovely bunch of people on here :)
I missed this , truly sorry for your lose, I don't expect my Mother to live much longer.
I hope to die in the way I have dream of for most of my life.
I do not think about death to much, I accept it as part of life.

Having a hard time posting this thread takes me too long to down loaded it has got very long.
 
Thanks for sharing  ;D

I get reminded of my mortality everyday.  I look after my MIL who is 88 and in the fiinal stage of demensia!  I think this disease is worse than cancer.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 25, 2010, 12:44:09 am
I would hate to lose my mind, I spoke with my father and he said same things like I never heard this when did this happen ,and my favorite,
Why didn't you tell me about it , I tell him the truth I did tell you but you will forget before we hang up the phone.
Cancer and gunshot seems to be the killers of my blood line.

Take it from a Judas Priest , just forgive people best you can and try to be happy the key to happiness is just being truly grateful.
As bad as thing are now it could be worst so I am grateful I played and laughed today.

I am grateful I have a gig at a party for thanks giving and it should be great food and over a hundred people who most all have heard me and I should do fine, lots of fun.

when it all comes down no one on his death bed says you know I wish I had spent more time at work.
Good food, good conversation and few laughs with some music, really to even want more is asking for to much.
 ;D :D ;) :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 25, 2010, 01:23:30 am
When I die it has to be fast.  Splat!  Like a bug on a windsheild!  None of this lingering death drama for me!

Losing your mind is a horrible thing!  My MIL doesn't even know who I am anymore!  It's so sad!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on November 25, 2010, 03:35:46 am

  Thanks everyone much appreiated,lovely bunch of people on here :)

Yeah sorry to hear about your Dad man.

I've been playing a lot of speed metal, just practicing my muted percussive picking while running through minor and Phyrigian scales. Also been working on harmonies with a guitar player I know and we've been learning Breaking the Law by Judas Priest, Simple but a lot of fun. :D

Casey are you doing any "speed" exercises?  I'm looking for something to increase my dexterity and speed.

Yes I am, I run minor scales up and down alternate picking each note, slowly increasing my speed. Also lookup paul gilbert's lesson's on youtube. He has some great speed boosting exercises on there. He's insane lol.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Lemming on November 25, 2010, 12:40:36 pm
Soon I will not be posting here anymore.
"Why not?"
I hope to get a mandolin very soon!

Really ?? Can't say I'd noticed you mention it on any of the threads  ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Phalanx on November 25, 2010, 01:02:38 pm
I hope to get a mandolin very soon!
Cue, stop thinking about it and just buy one! Mandolins are very cool. :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 25, 2010, 01:38:18 pm
No... I need to get the best deal practically possible.
IOW, set-up by the dealer and including a case. I won't take less than a Kentucky KM-505 I think.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 25, 2010, 02:49:56 pm
Soon I will not be posting here anymore.
"Why not?"
I hope to get a mandolin very soon!

Really ?? Can't say I'd noticed you mention it on any of the threads  ;)

so after you get a mandolin your just going to shut us, your friends out of your life?
I <3 you too!  lol
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 25, 2010, 02:58:31 pm
That's not the point, look at the thread title. :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 25, 2010, 06:43:47 pm
Hey hunney bunney I'm teasing!  You should know my sense of humor by now!

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 25, 2010, 09:05:04 pm
That's not my poin! LOL.

The topic title says 'on the guitar'! Nothing about any other stringed instrument! :P
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: JimLad on November 25, 2010, 10:48:04 pm
i use light d'addario exps on my acoustic and i think they sound fantastic, they definitely last longer but they are quite expensive.  recently switched from ernie balls to d'addario exps for my electric and im loving them.

i think they definitely last longer but 3-5 times longer is a bit of an exaggeration imo.

...how did this post get in here, its sposed to be in another thread  ???
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 25, 2010, 10:53:48 pm
I haven't switched strings on my electric for a year. I can't be bothered! LOL.
I've changed strings like 7 times on my acoustic though (of which 2 sets were coated, EXP and Elixir, Elixir topping at just 2 months of string life due to tuning problems).
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: flyhead on November 25, 2010, 11:17:58 pm
I don't get too uptight about changing strings either. When the strings get so dirty that it affects the balance of my guitar I might just do something about it.
My career as a session musician hasn't quite taken off in the way I intended.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 25, 2010, 11:57:45 pm
Fast Fret does it for me. :P
Again I don't play electric as often.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 26, 2010, 03:04:43 pm
That's not my poin! LOL.

The topic title says 'on the guitar'! Nothing about any other stringed instrument! :P
Yeah been playing more Mandolin, there great for learning to alternate pick and there tiny.
Been working on more Christmas songs, do this every year.
Most are the traditional song , seems woman dig this song so I play it for the ladies. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCoGDzKrfXU
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 26, 2010, 03:44:10 pm
I've been doing extensive research, not on the mandolin itself but how I can pull the best deal out of it. I've already got my fingers set on the Kentucky KM-505.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: zkash_guitarist on November 27, 2010, 07:05:29 pm
  Heard "You're Beautiful" on the radio today, and couldn't get it out of my head! So I transcribed it, and checked my work with this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZHzd2kL2lE). Got all my chords right, but I don't agree on the ending. I believe it's F-G-Am;F-G-C. Correct me if I'm wrong. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 27, 2010, 08:20:47 pm
  Heard "You're Beautiful" on the radio today, and couldn't get it out of my head! So I transcribed it, and checked my work with this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZHzd2kL2lE). Got all my chords right, but I don't agree on the ending. I believe it's F-G-Am;F-G-C. Correct me if I'm wrong. ;)
The main thing to take from this song is the progression itself.
Like so many song it come from the 1 5 4 6 chord progression.

The year is almost up, I really enjoyed the song Hey soul sister by train which is the same chord progression.

As a point of theory C and  A minor can be interchanged so it would be up to you to decide this.
 technically this may be called a 1 4 5 6 progression this is what I would call it.
Yeah just trying the push the major scale , understanding it and how to play it in the chord form will make life so much easier for anyone who plays any instrument  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 28, 2010, 03:25:50 am
Arg!!  Still learning the minor scales.  There tricky!

Doing a power chord progression which is fun!  I really sound like I know what I'm doing here!  It's kinda funky! I was practicing this at 6:30 this morning.  Thank god for headphones.  Put a little distortion to it!

The solo to Rocking in the the free world.  I saw a transcribed version and it doesn't quite match Neils'!  He seems to change the song on every version that I have seen on Youtube.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 28, 2010, 07:19:32 am
I got that power chords thing underway and I sounded so amazing(not tooting my horn)  but all my three boys came out of the woodwork to listen to mom play and they all said I have improved a great deal!! They said it sounded similar to ''Glycerin" by Bush.  They stayed for the song.  The  youngest told me he wasn't just blowing smoke up my butt.  Makes me feel like I learned some stuff and sounded pretty cool.  I can hardly wait to wake up in 5 or 6 hours and play the power chords song.  The best fun I have had in along time

Minor scales are starting to grow with in the brain cells. Hooray!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on November 28, 2010, 09:01:40 am

I'm not tooting my horn ... ....

all my three boys came out of the woodwork ...

my youngest ... wasn't just blowing smoke up my butt  ....

Minor scales are starting to grow in the brain cells.


What kind of Freaky Horror Family have you got there licks?

 :o
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on November 28, 2010, 09:30:46 am
(http://www.lonnacottrell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Addams-Family-tv-05.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 28, 2010, 10:14:59 am
  They stayed for the song.  My youngest told me wasn't just blowing smoke up my butt. 


A Canadian saying for he wasn't kidding, pulling my leg or jesting he truly met I was sounding better.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on November 28, 2010, 10:54:44 am
Hehe....... Licks...... It means pretty much the same thing here... ....... Close is just messing with you ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 28, 2010, 01:10:04 pm
Close is blowing smoke up your butt! xD


And I think I might get the mando somewhere during the week.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on November 28, 2010, 03:07:44 pm
Hehe....... Licks...... It means pretty much the same thing here... ....... Close is just messing with you ;)

Yes, yes I see indeedy do. No offence but you UKer's have your own slang terminology as we Canadians do and sometimes I think we both need a translator.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on November 28, 2010, 03:44:31 pm

I'm not tooting my horn ... ....

my boys came out of the woodwork ...

my youngest ... wasn't just blowing smoke ....

scales are starting to grow in the brain cells.


just pick out the best bits

lol

 :D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 28, 2010, 04:07:27 pm

I'm not tooting my horn ... ....

all my three boys came out of the woodwork ...

my youngest ... wasn't just blowing smoke up my butt  ....

Minor scales are starting to grow in the brain cells.


What kind of Freaky Horror Family have you got there licks?

 :o
That's funny, love the Adams family I was just playing that theme song a few days ago.

Learning some more Jazz and Bluegrass too style that have nothing really in common, but in learning some of the songs of the season, it seems to be taking down a path.
Good King Wenceslas,
 on the feast of Steven has a different chord for every word.
I like the song cause it has a cool run in it and it's a feast with my name in it, kind of hard for me not to like. ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on November 28, 2010, 05:09:54 pm
Hey! Guys
You can check behind my work, The song Oh come oh come Emmanuel,
Is the minor scale and it is a pretty song.
Since many guitarist seem to play the minor stuff more a song that use's only the minor scale seemed cool to add.
The melody is a little hard to get from this version , but wished too show a family that plays together, all that's missing is a Mandolin, since they have a pretty fiddle player , I will watch.
I guess a family that plays together will stay together , man that would be cool too have all kinds of musical talent right at home. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Z-4H39BCM 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on November 28, 2010, 10:49:01 pm
Just been working on my speed metal. I've got all these licks and chord progressions I have come up for it, but I just can't seem to come up with a recording I like yet, and I end up wanting to snap my laptop and half and just delete them LOL. But one of these days when I get a decent recording down, I'll upload it.

Also been working on some bluesie progressions and some pentatonic licks. ;)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on December 18, 2010, 02:37:40 pm
I'm learning how to link all the different positons of the minor scale and the pentatonic(I know this already)literally all over the neck.  I didn't get the minor scales and how they link to one another.  I kept on looking at Justin's vid on the 5 positions and it didn't really help matters.  I never realized that you can do the minor scale going forward on the neck but when you reverse it you have to go to the next higher string and then start the rest of the scale from there.  So many little complexities when doing this that you have to know. 

BTW Here's a backing track that I'm using.  I'm using the G major scale and the E minor scale.  Lots of endless possibilities!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emoodho4Zrs

This backing track is slow and gives you a bit of time to think on your feet.  It's an awesome track and very inspirational to play to.  I really love it!!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on December 18, 2010, 03:27:16 pm
I'm learning how to link all the different positons of the minor scale and the pentatonic(I know this already)literally all over the neck.  I didn't get the minor scales and how they link to one another.  I kept on looking at Justin's vid on the 5 positions and it didn't really help matters.  I never realized that you can do the minor scale going forward on the neck but when you reverse it you have to go to the next higher string and then start the rest of the scale from there.  So many little complexities when doing this that you have to know. 

BTW Here's a backing track that I'm using.  I'm using the G major scale and the E minor scale.  Lots of endless possibilities!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emoodho4Zrs

This backing track is slow and gives you a bit of time to think on your feet.  It's an awesome track and very inspirational to play to.  I really love it!!
Hi Licks
These position your talking about do not make sense to me, if your get someone to to show you the chord within the scales this is the only learn way to get it.
I have been talking with you about this a year and after years a person could learn the connection of patterns without knowing the chord.
It 5 chords 10 if you include the Minor and 15 with the Dominate.

I would also look for netter backing tracks, this one is a peaceful thing with any rhythm structure you will get major timing problems by playing with tracks like this .
 
I may use this track to help me relax before bed but it is not a track with structure , just a wash of strings and reverb ;D

as always the best to you and yours.
I posted the minor scale Christmas song for you, kind of sad you did not learn it ;D
You could try silent night but that is the major scale,
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on December 18, 2010, 04:14:14 pm
I haven't been doing this for a year and only started this stuff in September 2010 with my new teacher.  Do the math?  Not to be snotty.  It really hasn't been this long.  5 months!  Sometimes it takes certain people longer.  I happen to be one of those people.  We are not all Einsteins!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on December 18, 2010, 05:19:54 pm
Wow steveo2 that was a smokin' song. They are really good.

Licks, I think you are confusing something. You mention not being able to see the connections and having to skip strings going up or down. That seems not quite right to me. I really don;t quit understand what you mean.

But you can go up and down a minor scale on one string. Everything connects together in a similar fashion but with a different set of notes.

I kind of agree with steveo2 here. I think it would be better if you played a simple sequence of say Em Am Bm and used your E minor scale over that to see things.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on December 18, 2010, 05:52:10 pm
I haven't been doing this for a year and only started this stuff in September 2010 with my new teacher.  Do the math?  Not to be snotty.  It really hasn't been this long.  5 months!  Sometimes it takes certain people longer.  I happen to be one of those people.  We are not all Einsteins!
I can't count months LOL.
It's not a math thing, as you said your new teach , you have been posting a long time, so you have been playing a long time.
I think you are taking it personal that your backing track is a loose bunch of chords,
 I would get sad if I played to it or fall asleep.
I have no agenda but to try to help others here.
The truth can hurt, still is the truth.
Trying to learn metal with no Drummer is like making love with your cloths on.
It would be pointless and no fun, well maybe a little fun.
Girls , guitars are high on the list of my thought of life ad food and I am a grateful and happy guy ;D
You play to have fun, but you are a passionate person.
It is truly time to learn the 15 chords and let some passion loose.

I got lessons book that are really old and still don't get it.
I have ears that have been doing this a long time.
My finger can;t do all of what my ears what them to do.

The question asked in the General Forum have been bad for like a month.
Are you sure have been playing only three months, I swear I posted with you when it was cold then summer came and now it's cold again.
It take as long as it takes, I wish I had more musical talent.
I sing good and I can entertain people, I have seen people posting that they play for years and don't understand scales ,
It's because they don't see the chords.
With guitar the chords should be E A D C G .
I say this because in the 5 chord form the E A and D are the chord that sound good in all 5 position and the C and G are harder to fret away from the open position.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: LievenDV on December 18, 2010, 05:57:45 pm
I'm currently learning this "jazzy" version of "white christmas"

http://www.911tabs.com/link/?5565522

it's a tab I know; but otherwise it would take me long to figure out as I'm a nnovice in jazz.
good exercise to match jazz shapes with the sound of a familiar song though
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on December 18, 2010, 06:14:02 pm
Wow steveo2 that was a smokin' song. They are really good.

Licks, I think you are confusing something. You mention not being able to see the connections and having to skip strings going up or down. That seems not quite right to me. I really don;t quit understand what you mean.

But you can go up and down a minor scale on one string. Everything connects together in a similar fashion but with a different set of notes.

I kind of agree with steveo2 here. I think it would be better if you played a simple sequence of say Em Am Bm and used your E minor scale over that to see things.


Hey! TB
Or any one.
I saw there was a message how do I not lose my message and see what the other message is???.
Each Forum is different.
TB you also know that rhythm is very important , very well maybe the most important thing in music.
You also know that the right way to learn the scales is too learn the chord.
you are a great help here at the site.
Kind of agreeing about this is like bathing with your cloths on, but then again you clean yourself and you cloths at the same time but I think you would miss a spot.on your body and you body covering as well.
Would be nice too hear a your right on even if my spelling is not good.
I am grateful I had an old man show me one scale, so truly I think there is still only one scale.
Just got a lesson from a very old lady, met her in a small music store, it was a piano lesson.
I recorded it, on tape hope it don't mess up.
A good teacher she was , when I told her I hand trouble with some theory stuff, she really opened my eye but I will have to get better at posting to even begin to explain it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on December 18, 2010, 06:44:04 pm
Quote
TB you also know that rhythm is very important , very well maybe the most important thing in music.

Yes, it took me a long long time to believe and understand that but i am convinced rhythm as in timing and rhythm as in changing chords at will is the key to the kingdom.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on December 18, 2010, 07:04:39 pm
Trying to transcribe this again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0rbF4BByNU

Well this version actually:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w1xPpdfMGE
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on December 18, 2010, 11:15:04 pm
Here's my little riff,  G major/E minor

e----15*-14-12---------------------------------------------------------
B-------------12----15-13--------------12--12-13----------------------
G-------------------------14-12*---------14------------14-12-11-------
D------------------------------------------------------------------12--
A-----------------------------------------------------------------------
E-----------------------------------------------------------------------


D---12-10-12----------------------------
A--------------9----------10*-9-h10*----
E------------------------------------\3*-


*=root note
Am I on the right track?  It may seem a bit awkward.  I don't know.  I'm so desperately trying to understand this!  Please God,  if there is one let this be right!
I am driving myself crazy trying to understand. 

So if I'm on the right track, it's time to get out the metronome and start picking up some speed.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on December 18, 2010, 11:51:57 pm
Licks, that sounds cool.

Just that it's not quite in Gmajor/Eminor, that 10th fret on g string is note F, that would make it Cmajor/Aminor.. or perhaps E phrygian?

In Eminor you would have note F#. Just wanted to point this out, no offense meant :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on December 19, 2010, 12:07:55 am
I just learned...

that my intonation is shot on one string. What's up with that?!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on December 19, 2010, 12:29:35 am
Licks, that sounds cool.

Just that it's not quite in Gmajor/Eminor, that 10th fret on g string is note F, that would make it Cmajor/Aminor.. or perhaps E phrygian?

In Eminor you would have note F#. Just wanted to point this out, no offense meant :)

Sid I did revise this just now and realized
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: EVH Fan on December 19, 2010, 12:32:49 am
I'm trying to learn the solo to Turn Up The Radio by Autograph.

Not to hard but the four finger tapping is giving me a little trouble :(
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on December 19, 2010, 11:30:40 pm
I'm learning how to link all the different positons of the minor scale and the pentatonic(I know this already)literally all over the neck.  I didn't get the minor scales and how they link to one another.  I kept on looking at Justin's vid on the 5 positions and it didn't really help matters.  I never realized that you can do the minor scale going forward on the neck but when you reverse it you have to go to the next higher string and then start the rest of the scale from there.  So many little complexities when doing this that you have to know. 

BTW Here's a backing track that I'm using.  I'm using the G major scale and the E minor scale.  Lots of endless possibilities!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emoodho4Zrs

This backing track is slow and gives you a bit of time to think on your feet.  It's an awesome track and very inspirational to play to.  I really love it!!
Hi Licks
These position your talking about do not make sense to me, if your get someone to to show you the chord within the scales this is the only learn way to get it.
I have been talking with you about this a year and after years a person could learn the connection of patterns without knowing the chord.
It 5 chords 10 if you include the Minor and 15 with the Dominate.

I would also look for netter backing tracks, this one is a peaceful thing with any rhythm structure you will get major timing problems by playing with tracks like this .
 
I may use this track to help me relax before bed but it is not a track with structure , just a wash of strings and reverb ;D

as always the best to you and yours.
I posted the minor scale Christmas song for you, kind of sad you did not learn it ;D
You could try silent night but that is the major scale,

Fast is not always good. Just because it is slow does not make it easy to play. IE David Gilmour. And practicing in different timings is never a bad thing. Oh and I think Eminor is an F#? 
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on December 20, 2010, 01:22:10 am
Slow is just as difficult as fast, IMHO. It's just that the technical side of it differs slightly.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: joeybigO on December 20, 2010, 07:06:11 am
steveo

That was a nice backing track, I like it LOT!!!

I started using it just to study with different tempos, and I will use this to study Delays and effects on the RP-155 which sadly has only 1 delay setting and it can't exact the delay settings. But i'm using the High E minor Scale (Justin's 5th position) and the lower G (Justin's 1st Position) but I'm not using the licks on it. I'm just using some crazy thing thats going on in my head.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on December 21, 2010, 04:55:15 pm
Here's my little riff,  G major/E minor

e----15*-14-12---------------------------------------------------------
B-------------12----15-13--------------12--12-13----------------------
G-------------------------14-12*---------14------------14-12-11-------
D------------------------------------------------------------------12--
A-----------------------------------------------------------------------
E-----------------------------------------------------------------------


D---12-10-12----------------------------
A--------------9----------10*-9-h10*----
E------------------------------------\3*-


*=root note
Am I on the right track?  It may seem a bit awkward.  I don't know.  I'm so desperately trying to understand this!  Please God,  if there is one let this be right!
I am driving myself crazy trying to understand. 

So if I'm on the right track, it's time to get out the metronome and start picking up some speed.


The 1st 8 notes are the G major scale I think the other part after the fist 8 notes is not a great lick, but it's tab so I have know idea of how long to play the notes
Someone else has said this is not the G major scale, look and sounds like G major too me.
I did not see a note that what not in the scale in the first.
My eyes not that good , but I think it;s right.


I am not your teacher If I were to guess it looks like someone is trying to get you to look at all the half step stuff.
Look at the tab or scales play many half steps, the half step hammer on sounds so good going back to the root major or minor , sound good in both.

The words TB wrote are true and using songs as part of this learning is the way to go.

The Nat King Cole Classic The Merry Christmas song can be played using chord and notes found around a C open position chord.
No it will not sound like the record.
The more I try to learn it like the record the more I say why.
I will just keep making it my way.
Did click the tab link and got stuck at the 911 site.
I do not have an mp3 of this song, If I did I could have save myself some time using slow it down software lol
Nat sings this form a C shaped D chord.

Too play Jazz there is another really two songs that must be learned first.
I got rhythm I got music, is the best song to learn the 1 6 2 5 that song and it turn around was use as the base to make a millions other songs.
Autumn Leave is another song that must be learned, I see no way around not learning these progression.
Yeah after you learn it and think is this Gary Moores progression on Still got the blues the answer is yes it is.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on December 21, 2010, 06:24:04 pm
LnK, not sure what that lick is supposed to getting across other than it does all link up. But like steveo2 said without the proper timing it's kind of hard to tell what it's supposed to sound like.

One thing for sure though the notes on the A string need to be played such that they time up and resolve that G note. It seems like to me it should be two phrases with the first ending on G(12). the second ending on A 9 10 9 10. Then a final tag of that G note which I just slide to from the 12th fret.

But aside from all that if you want to figure this out try this.....

You will be playing all your lead work between frets 4 and 9. for all practical purposes we would say that you will play everything at "the 5th fret position" That's how you would communicate this to another player or in this case receive direction from another player.

OK, so don't forget all the single note stuff gets done at the 5th fret area. IOW, you will not be moving your hand up and down the neck. Most you will play outside frets 5 6 7 8 are maybe a 1 fret stretch either way.

OK,..... Now for the chords you will play. This is -not- going top be a song and pay no attention to key changes or what notes belong to what key. That will not matter.

What you need to do is play Cm for 8 bars. Then Em for 8, Then Am for 8, then Dm for 8. That should be enough. Just try to play a nice rhythm and think of it as changing keys each time.

Ok, now look up all your chords and figure what scale shape you need to use to play each at the 5th fret...

To get you started the Cm would require you use the G Shape minor pentatonic because that's the pattern that fits at fret 5 and sounds a C chord/scale.

Now as each chord plays change the pattern to the proper one. After you see that and can do it. then use chords that actually for a typical song. Like a ii V I say Cm F7 Bb but again play your lead all at the 5th fret position. All this involves is answering the simply question... what chord shape is required to form each chord at the 5th fret.

Of course play your chords in their normal places like open position or regular barre chords.








Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on December 21, 2010, 11:51:52 pm
Cool TB
Lick after trying hard to get so licks from your tabs just like it is tabbed I am about crazy.
The tab is a poor lick or poor tab .
Maybe what has you confused is it is a G major sounding lick if you take it to E it will be minor.
Hope you get some of this and if not well keep trying.
the G note at the 3rd fret kind of a strange jump , but could be used I have licks that start at the 3 fret and go to the 7th and really sound like open G.
TB writing I get better than tab ,but I have to say 4th fret to 9th fret same string is  the start of We wish you a Merry Christmas.
Think this was cover in Justin first ear trainer.
Man Jedi Blasted him for messing up the intervals it's funny  ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: PattheBunny on December 22, 2010, 08:15:58 am
I am working on Get Back and Revolution but having major trouble with the shuffle and palm mute and all that jazz.  I get tense and can't find a groove.  :'(

So while I struggle on with it I decided that I also need to learn what seems like my anthem this past few weeks. The Ramones I Want To Be Sedated. ("I can't control my fingers, I can't control my brain..." )

I think I'm gonna do it as a ballad.  You know, as if i were already sedated...
....
.......
.....................
.................

Hey, where's the emoticon for comatose?


Pat

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on December 22, 2010, 04:07:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFPHIK9ann8&feature=related

I like this tune , it's a Christmas tune.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on December 22, 2010, 10:24:06 pm
I just learned that people enjoy my playing. Infact, so much that people voted for me to get on local tv...


I still can't believe it.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on December 23, 2010, 06:42:54 am
wow Cue
sounds good
give us more detail
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on December 23, 2010, 03:21:45 pm
I am working on Get Back and Revolution but having major trouble with the shuffle and palm mute and all that jazz.  I get tense and can't find a groove.  :'

Palm muting is hard to tell how to help a person, best I can remember I did practice the muting technique as a young player.
I would say play these until you get the rhythm right and I think the muting just kind of happens as you get more time in playing.
John had a hard hitting hand, you can really tell on revolution , I like get back sweet intervals on the solo stuff ;D
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on December 24, 2010, 12:35:22 pm
Thanks TB for setting me back on the straight and narrows of learning.  Sometimes my learning spins out of control and crash lands into an ugly mess!  Mistakes are good to make as long as one learns from them.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Cue Zephyr on December 25, 2010, 10:04:54 pm
Licks made a lick...


and I made a run. xD
I think it sounds kinda fun:

E||----------------------------------|-----3---------------||
B||--0-1-3--3------------------------|-----3---------------||
G||------------2s-4-0-4-2-0------0---|-----0---------------||
D||-------------------------0h-2---0-|-----0---------------||
A||----------------------------------|-----2---------------||
E||----------------------------------|--3--3---------------||


s is a slide, btw.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sophiehiker on December 26, 2010, 12:39:52 pm
Quote
TB you also know that rhythm is very important , very well maybe the most important thing in music.

Yes, it took me a long long time to believe and understand that but i am convinced rhythm as in timing and rhythm as in changing chords at will is the key to the kingdom.

"This means something!  It's important!!"
-- Richard Dreyfuss in Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Mashed potatoes scene)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: close2u on December 26, 2010, 02:56:22 pm
I transcribed the Clapton style solo from Justin's RUBS (well, did 95% myself and cheated for a few tricky parts) and am building up my speed on it

Haven't played much lately though ... very busy
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Wishbone on December 26, 2010, 03:50:15 pm
Same here, Close......

Been busy too....... but not only that........ been a bit bored with playing. Electric-wise....I want to play my G&L; but that isn't coming 'til at least the first or second week of the new year. Acoustic-wise...... my Ibanez is getting on my nerves. It's a nice sounding guitar, but I have to work really hard to get that sound out of it. I can't wait 'til I have the dough for a well made acoustic; one I can tickle and coax the tones and nuances from, rather than having to wring them out of it.

I'm still playing for an hour, on and off, every day; both electric and acoustic. I'm just getting bored easily.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on December 26, 2010, 10:21:11 pm
I've been really getting into the aural training exercises but with 8 adults and 6 grand children (aged 6 months to 11 yrs) in the holiday house it is a bit cozy for too much guitar practice!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on December 29, 2010, 11:31:19 pm
The same is happening to me too!  I'm working crazy hours right now and am just exhausted when I get home.  My MIL just passed away on Tuesday and god bless her she decided not to on Christmas!  Life is extreme chaos at best.  I need the peace and solitude of playing but I just eat, sleep and work.  No rest for the wicked as eloquently stated by Jack White.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Bootstrap on December 30, 2010, 01:53:52 am
Condolences LnK - hope your world settles a bit soon.

B xo
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: TB-AV on December 30, 2010, 02:25:39 am
Sorry for your loss LnK. Hang in there.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: caseyrh43 on December 30, 2010, 02:31:00 am
Heh, dual advertisement. :D

Not really what I've been working on, but it incorporates some of the techniques. Such as alternate picking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkRFlE6Q0hg

Oh and sorry to hear about your loss LNK.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: licksnkicks on December 30, 2010, 04:04:28 am
Thanks guys I appreciate it!
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: knighty 1 on December 30, 2010, 12:34:57 pm

    So sorry to hear that Lnks, condolances, not been a good year for me 'n' thee has it girl.
 May next year bring a lot more happiness, be strong kid.  :)
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Blackheathen on December 30, 2010, 02:35:23 pm
I'm learning Alice's Restaurant
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: steveo2 on December 30, 2010, 03:27:05 pm
I'm learning Alice's Restaurant
Cool song.
Sorry for your love ones passing Licks, if you can't play just listen to more music.

Been playing more jazz stuff, pretty chords don't make me look better but I sound fancy.

I would have to say this year has not been my best, still grateful.
Came in this place with nothing and you can't take anything with you.
I still have my guitars, lost most of my amps.

I can feed myself and I am not confined to a bed
Life is good
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: joeybigO on December 30, 2010, 04:40:03 pm
Learning:
Shining Moon - Lightnin' Hopkins

Sorry about the MIL Licks.

Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: sid on December 30, 2010, 05:44:18 pm
Fooling around with playing dead notes... or whatever they are really called.

As in you hold for example powerchord, but not pressing it down, and at same time palm muting.
Quite tricky thing to strum up and down while palm muting!


Sorry to hear about your loss Licks.
Title: Re: So, what are you learning now? 2010
Post by: Phalanx on December 31, 2010, 04:58:37 pm
Finally! After working more than full time the last two weeks and being extremely busy, collage start again on Monday. This means I finally get to practise some guitar again, can't wait.  :D