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Title: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 11, 2020, 05:51:20 am
02-10-2020 (Still really sick with this cold)
Found the "G major scale shape in 1st position E shape" page and practiced that for a few days. Since I got my bar chord calluses on pointer from ukulele already (so glad I did that now but that was months of torture pretty soon after I got fingertips to stop hurting. I really hated that. I was miserable.)

I tried the scale exercise by playing the G chord Justin plays in the video, and went back to find the open G shape to play at the end of the exercise. Fun stuff! Electric guitar strings are so easy to press compared to the flourocarbon ukulele strings! I still highly dislike round wound strings. Doesn't seem to matter what they're on. I like flatwound on my low G. Got to scrape together enough to buy a set of flats for the guitar and ask to see which set wears the longest.

Decided to find out how to play the rest of the chords in the key of G since it seemed like a good idea. I can play G two ways, open C, open D (which is the G chord on Ukulele and that's going to REALLY screw with my head for a while) open Am, open Em and Bm (It's a bar shape)

I'm looking for F#dim now.

I consider myself a beginner in uke because I suck still, but I guess going right to fingerstyle on uke and starting to immerse myself in theory my second month in helped. (Still a long way to go there)

The ear training thing is helpful although I can't use the app since it's icrap and google store but doing it on the web page is nice. (Thank you for that) I can get to level 4 and then everything falls apart. It's nice to be able to know what it is i'm having a hard time with.

I find it frustrating in a video Justin mentioned he transcribed Fade to Black in school. I searched the site because it was a song I wanted to learn when it came out and IT'S NOT HERE! Seriously?? Wtf lol. Can't there be ONE stinking song I REALLY want to learn that I don't need to figure out myself??!! Site has some good songs but nothing on my to-do asap list.

Anyway once I find F# diminished i'm going to practice switching between all of them for a while, as well as the scale and play around before doing anything new (other than ear training. It's highly disturbing and alarming feeling I can't hear some note frequencies(?) very well.

Guitar is different from uke, but the same enough it kind of puts me in a weird limbo of swimming around between beginner and intermediate lessons here especially since I started uke learning fingerstyle because I don't sing.

Ok rest shouldn't be a "blog style entry" just wanted to document my beginning so I know what I started with.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on February 11, 2020, 09:48:29 am
Welcome to the Community. Interesting way to get into learning...learning the chords that you play in tbe key of G, rather than tbe open chords in Justin's lesson sequence.

Personally I wouldn't worry too much about F#dim. I play songs mostly in G or C and have never needed F#dim or Bdim, the vii chord in C.

I'd also learn A E and Dm as you go along, to have the basic 8 open chords learned. Depending on your goals of course, these 8 enable playing of many songs.

Anyhow, wish you well.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: sairfingers on February 11, 2020, 01:36:39 pm
Hi TS
As a beginner myself, I’d be interested to know why you’ve taken your own approach to learning guitar and have created your own learning path. Justin’s course is very well structured and methodical and gets results if you stick with it.

Combining the lessons with his songbooks, you would, I’m sure find lots of songs that you’d enjoy learning.

I echo what David said about F#dim and Bdim. I’ve not needed either of them so far and haven’t a clue how to play them.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 12, 2020, 05:19:11 am
Didn't think of it as taking my own approach or learning path?

I'm broke so if a songbook is paid content, I can't use them. I can only utilize free content. I have no desire to sing and so far haven't come across any songs here that have tabs (not sure any do now actually, if a songbook is involved) so I am doing what I can with what he's provided. 💖 Which I think the ear training is extremely generous especially.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on February 12, 2020, 07:02:14 am
Didn't think of it as taking my own approach or learning path?

But it totally is.
Trying to learn diminished chords so you can learn all chords in one key only is a very unique (and if I may be advisorily blunt) misguided learning path.
Follow Justin's Beginner Course.

Quote

I'm broke

This entire Beginners course is FREE ... provided to you at no cost:

https://www.justinguitar.com/categories/1-beginner-guitar-lessons-classic

So is this new and updated version ...
https://www.justinguitar.com/categories/1-beginner-guitar-lessons-2020

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so if a songbook is paid content, I can't use them.

There are 587 FREE song lessons here ...

https://www.justinguitar.com/songs

You do not need TAB. The chords are shown, explained, played, the song is shown, explained played, the strumming is shown, explained played.
Are there none you like out of nearly 600?

Even if your answer is yes then I strongly advise you to overcome your rejection and dislike of these songs as you will learn everything you need to learn by choosing some of them and learning to play them.
Everything you learn from here will translate in to being able to successfully learn what ever songs you really do want to learn as you will be a much better guitarist.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 12, 2020, 08:11:01 am
Listen, I appreciate everyone's concern. I came back to post my second official journal entry because I busted out laughing at the irony life gives sometimes at unexpected moments.... Didn't expect another reply.

I found one I like. ironically it USES F# diminished!!!!!

I didn't go hunting specifically for songs using it. I just scrolled through songs until I said "I like that song." (But a different version which STILL uses the diminished chord...)

It doesn't use most of the rest of the chords I picked to learn. So with that reasoning, why learn the others???!!!

That's silly reasoning!!!

Again i'm going through his coarses. I apologize for using the website a bit different then most people. I don't mean to ruffle feathers in the comunity.

I just want to learn guitar. (And learn something I like, and want to play.)






Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: sairfingers on February 12, 2020, 09:28:19 am
I found one I like. ironically it USES F# diminished!!!!!
I apologize for using the website a bit different then most people. I don't mean to ruffle feathers in the comunity.
No need to apologise, this community is always keen to help and offer advice.
You haven’t told us what song you found. I for one would love to know and if I like it too, I’ll learn F#dim along with you!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on February 12, 2020, 09:38:30 am
I too would be interested to know the song ... the two versions also as you mention there are different ones.

And you're not ruffling feathers. Truly. You're just getting advice from people that have seen too many crash and burn and give up because they tried to learn using methods that had no success rate (whereas Justin's course has a 90% + success rate I would hazard to guess).


ps

Welcome to the forum - and kudos for putting your learning in to a road case.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 12, 2020, 09:42:21 am
02-12-2020
Friend gave me a fortune cookie yesterday it said:

Your reward is the walk, not the destination. - Highly fitting for guitar.

Since everyone is all about me finding some song I looked through the list again abandoning hope of tabs and found one I like, and want to play.

Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out.

It's Clapton instead of Scrapper. Sounds close-ish. I apparently do have undiagnosed real OCD because it nags at me Clapton is playing it wrong. It's probably going to end up bugging the hell out of me that i'm playing it wrong in return so i'm not sure how far I will get with it.

What made me really laugh for real was it uses F# diminished!!! Roflmao!! What were the chances!!!! I about died when he mentioned the chord!

Fate gets a perfect 100 points for Irony and humor!

I however need to find chord diagrams now. :D And my fingerpicks so I don't destroy my nails making all fingerpicking a pain.

C E7 A7 Dm A7 Dm riff F F#dim C riff A7 D7 G
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on February 12, 2020, 09:47:24 am
I admire your ambition.

That song is 2nd tier Intermediate difficulty.

Some people that have spent hard hours and diligent practice time working through the Beginner course and have now moved on to the Intermediate level after one or two years playing will struggle with that song.


Eric doesn't play it wrong - it's blues .. he plays it differently to the version you know. :)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 12, 2020, 10:09:31 am
Sorry, I was making my entry when you guys were replying here. The forum warned me, but I didn't see why I wouldn't want to make my case entry.

Close2U, I owe you a vibe thing for posts elsewhere. I couldn't vibe you when I started.

I seriously do appreciate the advice but let me see if I can do it first. 😁 Tier 2 intermediate beats my other options. So that's a step in the right direction for me.

I know Clapton isn't playing it wrong btw 😋 it's just not how it goes. 😉
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: sairfingers on February 12, 2020, 10:45:18 am
Funnily enough that’s a song I’ve been playing. Not fingerpicking, as my skills aren’t good enough yet, but flat-pick strumming and picking out notes. I’ve been using B7 and not F#dim. I’m going to learn F#dim now!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: sairfingers on February 12, 2020, 11:43:09 am
I’m going to learn F#dim now!
As usual there are lots of ways to play this chord. The one I’ve found that fits and is fairly easy to play is xx4545. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 12, 2020, 12:49:26 pm
Yea! Company! I think I wrote down all the shapes I need.
I watched what he did and rooted around in pictures until I found a chord diagram on the 5th fret. For F#dim you just skip a fret so 5's and 7's I think.

I put on the picks and learned I wish the middle pickup wasn't there.... I'm smacking the pickup to death because a hole is usually there... I pulled out my broken acoustic (First Act) It's neck is coming off so it's notes are all the same around the 11 12th and 13th frets. But I don't need to go up that far.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 12, 2020, 01:54:30 pm
Sair it's the same thing probably with flat picking the song and fingerstyle? It reads like you're doing the same thing, just with a pick. I tried with a pick.. I can't. Fingerpicking is definitely a comfort zone for me. Wearing fingerpicks not so much.

The shapes aren't too bad though. D7 is weird. Not sure I wrote it down right... Got to check that later.

Cycled through the 8 different chords and they're not bad.

I need a bit of sleep now though. I'll double check tonight.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: stitch101 on February 12, 2020, 08:29:57 pm
As usual there are lots of ways to play this chord. The one I’ve found that fits and is fairly easy to play is xx4545. Any thoughts?

Here's the funny thing with diminished chords.
The note you are playing are XX F# C D# A Which are the notes in F#dim7, Cdim7, D#dim7 and Adim7.
So you have just learnt 4 new chords.

Slide this chord up one Fret and you get G C# E A# which are in the chords Gdim7, C#dim7, Edim7
and A#dim7.
now you have learnt 4 more new chords.

Slide up one more fret and you get G# D F B which are in the chords G#dim7, Ddim7. Fdim7 and Bdim7.
now you have learnt 4 more new chords. that makes 12.

Now here is the kicker. Slide that chord up one more fret and you get get the notes A D# F# C.
Do these note look familiar? They are the same note as the first set just in a different order.
This means the cycle start all over again and again and again.


Congratulations you have just learnt all of the Dim7 chords all the way up the neck
using this pattern.  :) :D ;D
This works with the other dim patterns as well.
 


Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on February 12, 2020, 10:06:22 pm
Nicely explained stitch.

Diminished chords are not all bad news and meh.
They have much beauty.

They just sound a bit 'weird' and are not used very much in most song styles.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: sairfingers on February 12, 2020, 10:53:54 pm
Congratulations you have just learnt all of the Dim7 chords all the way up the neck
using this pattern.  :) :D ;D
This works with the other dim patterns as well.
Wow thanks stitch. Loving the buy one get one (or in this case at least 12) free concept! You’re the man!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 13, 2020, 03:10:17 am
Nice Stitch I gave you a vibe thing. Wonder if a diminished shape works the same way on uke.

I got 1 play on part 1 before the video started bouncing up and down and came in today to say you were right Sair. Sorry about that. Definitely 4th fret.

Semi official 02-12-2020

I altered my chord diagram. I got the sequence written correctly last night at least. Not sure if we are expected to tab it out ourselves but that isn't going to happen.

Without tabs I have a feeling I will go completely off the rails with guitar. I "take it (music) and make it my own" too much already when I have hard fast tabs to work off of.

Anyway, will pop in after I finished practicing everything to make my official case entry.

Guitar - Going to work on the chord changes and sequence tonight. Not going to worry about the picking at all today.

Ukulele - I gave up (for now) with tapped harmonics. i'm smacking the fret too slow. If I keep at it I'll never get the performance song done before the deadline. I can do artificial plucked ones okay enough now, might stick with the easier version. I lost my thumb nail which is just freaking super. It's gone to the nail bed. Might try thumb pick this month. Might try a guitar pick? Need to see.

Treating Down and Out as a second challenge with a tentative: Post where I'm at, around the end of the month thing.
Hopefully no one makes fun of me in here or i'll delete them.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 13, 2020, 09:04:34 am
02-13-2020
My dog thinks I am terrible at guitar, or she's acutely aware the acoustic sounds out of tune.
Practiced since last post with frequent breaks, dinner etc. Got the basic chord progression I think? The two little riffs are super fun. Forgot the last G has that change to fret 1. So it didn't get in there at all. Should have made a chord diagram for it. Having a hard time with the D7. Everything just stops dead there while I try to remember what to do. C isn't a shape i'm used to still. Just kind of smushing around on the strings with the rhythm to make it sound bluesy. Didn't do the bass thing on the D7 either.

Friend is thrilled i'm learning this "Easy" song... He said it then stuttered and changed the subject fast lol! but is all excited to learn the F#Diminished and a couple "new" chords to him... He's humoring me but that's okay. He wants to get me, and his two friends who are just learning guitar together to teach us chords. Not sure how that's going to go.

Time for uke.. Kind of dreading jumping into the song. Not done with the coarse. Won't have hope remembering the arrangement if I don't.




Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 14, 2020, 05:46:50 pm
02-14-2020 Valentine's Day. Still feel absolutely rotten. Cold seems better then I feel worse.

Got the picking pattern mostly down. The last A7 in the sequence I play strummed.  Recorded myself, sounds really out of tune on the broken acoustic on the D7 and last G. -Super cringy out of tune. Kind of fitting for the song though.

Haven't gotten comfortable enough yet with the sequence's chord changes in all places to be able to try it in any kind of timing yet. Might post a clip on progress.

Uke - Bleh. Having a hard time with artificial harmonics on the chord shapes. I don't have the pinchy movement or the light sweep across the strings, down. it's really hard to use the thumb pick!!!!! Wish I had enough thumb nail to pluck with! He says we don't need to play the harmonics on the chords if we can't, but i'd like to be able to do it. 😕
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on February 14, 2020, 09:42:12 pm
Not quite sure what you mean by harmonics on the chords, do you mean touched harmonics 12 frets above the fingered fret? I can’t imagine them being easy on a purely acoustic uke, not too bad on an electro! What size uke are you using, my tenor electro is low G with all fluocarbon strings - a Living water custom set! I’ve got a Sop, concert, 2 Tenors (low and high G) a bowl back baritone and a bass; got a bit carried away 😂 - then there’s the Guitars.................
Will have a look see if Taimane or Cynthia linn has done anything on harmonics!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 15, 2020, 03:17:21 am
02-14-2020
This is where I'm at with it so far.. I chopped a section. No effects except some eq to get rid of hiss. Didn't spend time on eq because it's practice anyway so....

https://soundcloud.com/user-468191094/nkywydaoprac02142020

Darrell it's just one of the February challenge songs for the uke site I belong to. Amazing Grace done in harmonics. It's all good. I'll get it sorted out. I play a low G t tenor. You have an assortment!!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on February 15, 2020, 07:07:42 am
Twilight, this is sounding really good ... excellent progress so far. Well done.

You mentioned hiss and using EQ to reduce it.  How are you making the recording?  Another option to reduce hiss is to use a noise filter, that is the way I do it.  Depending on you are processing the recording you may have one available.  And depending on how you are making the recording there may be tweaks to make that would help reduce the hiss.  I'm no expert, just a regular member here, but happy to share my experiences on the recording if it will be helpful.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on February 15, 2020, 07:53:57 am
02-14-2020
This is where I'm at with it so far.. I chopped a section. No effects except some eq to get rid of hiss. Didn't spend time on eq because it's practice anyway so....
https://soundcloud.com/user-468191094/
Darrell it's just one of the February challenge songs for the uke site I belong to. Amazing Grace done in harmonics. It's all good. I'll get it sorted out. I play a low G t tenor. You have an assortment!!
You did pretty well there, a few hesitations but hey you’ve only been playing guitar for a few weeks!

Ah you’re on Rock class 101! I used to be on there a couple of years ago, I got a bit frustrated with it because being a pensioner I couldn’t afford it in the end. I tend to go between Cynthia Linn and Bernadette teaches music, both are very good at what they do.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 17, 2020, 12:55:28 am
02-16-2020
The website is experiencing issues and people really want to get in, so i'm just practicing the song and scale until things settle down.

I got some gift certificates on Amazon for Christmas and decided to take a leap of faith on a plain black Kay acoustic that was originally around $100 but marked down as having "Small cosmetic imperfections on the body." by Amazon for less than $50 with tax... (That could mean anything, but you can't ask about it, they just send it)

I figured I can check it out, if it's in really bad shape or whatever, I can return it. Scratches and dings don't bother me. It kind of looks like the mass of different brands of super cheap acoustics floating around on Amazon since it comes in colors that look identical. I'll find out in 3 days. Kay apparently supplied Sears and Penny's etc. back in the day, and reissued a bunch of vintage models so may it will surprise me. Got to be better then the one I have now as long as it's neck isn't falling off too, lol.

Not much improvement on the song but it's fun to play.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 17, 2020, 03:11:27 am
DavidP - Any advice for recording is welcome always! Don't use the practice thing as an example though. I didn't spend time on it because it was just what it is. I'll look for a noise filter though. I am using FL Studio. (I bought it btw. Needed saying.) I tried to do something like sample the noise in the beginning then activated it, and it took out nearly every frequency in the track lol!! Including everything I played except something ridiculous like one string!😂😂  Needless to say I hit undo. 😂

I'll look into it more. Till then the eq works okay.

I usually just throw the parametric eq on the master channel after recording and pull the frequency numbers around until hiss on the high end two frequencies are gone and woofy bass residue that shouldn't be there disappears. I use FL's parametric eq 2? I think.


Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 17, 2020, 04:35:11 am
It's not a joke! Picks definitely disappear mysteriously when they fall on the floor.. Lost yet another one... I give up. I've never found any of them. Not even in the vaccume.

At almost a dollar each pick, I might as well have played $12 in scratch off lottery tickets.... I even bought the brightest colored ones they had so I couldn't miss the darn things on the floor! Martin and Tortex are the brightest the shop had... Bought by color this last time.

I even checked legs of the furniture just in case they bounced and landed standing up like soldiers...

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on February 17, 2020, 06:47:19 am
DavidP - Any advice for recording is welcome always! Don't use the practice thing as an example though. I didn't spend time on it because it was just what it is. I'll look for a noise filter though. I am using FL Studio. (I bought it btw. Needed saying.) I tried to do something like sample the noise in the beginning then activated it, and it took out nearly every frequency in the track lol!! Including everything I played except something ridiculous like one string!😂😂  Needless to say I hit undo. 😂

I'll look into it more. Till then the eq works okay.

I usually just throw the parametric eq on the master channel after recording and pull the frequency numbers around until hiss on the high end two frequencies are gone and woofy bass residue that shouldn't be there disappears. I use FL's parametric eq 2? I think.

What I find works for me is to be as silent as I possibly can be after hitting the record button for about 10-15 seconds.  Then I use that silence to set the noise profile.  So far that approach seems to work out OK i.e. doesn't eliminate most of the recording.  I have Waves XNoise filter so maybe it works differently to what you have packaged with the DAW?

Good idea to take out the woffy bottom.  I use a High Pass Filter for that.  I have a really simple one standard with the DAW.  I dial it up high so that the guitar sounds super tinny then move the frequncy lower and lower until the point where the guitar sounds right ... usually around 100khz.  Do the same for the vocal.  I record the guitar direct with built-in pick-up and the vocal with a mic, both through an audio interface into the DAW.

Not sure how you are recording.  If you have a DAW I assume at least a single mic via either an AI or USB ... but assumption can lead one astray.  Irrespective if a single track or recorded with a phone I would think both of the above should work and may be helpful.

Look forward to the next version of the song ....
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 17, 2020, 07:22:29 pm
Maybe the silence wasn't long enough? I was only leaving 3-5 seconds before the track. Next time I get it set up i'll try the 10-15 seconds and post the results. I was using whatever is built into FL Studio itself. It's not a plugin. I'll see what the FL manual says again. My ambient noise floor is pretty spectacular though.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: sairfingers on February 18, 2020, 12:25:54 pm
It's not a joke! Picks definitely disappear mysteriously when they fall on the floor.
I laughed when I read this. I’ve just spent 10 minutes searching under everything, only to discover the pick had fallen inside my guitar! Another 10 minutes spent shaking it out! 😂
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: brianlarsen on February 18, 2020, 03:18:20 pm
I laughed when I read this. I’ve just spent 10 minutes searching under everything, only to discover the pick had fallen inside my guitar! Another 10 minutes spent shaking it out! 😂
(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/83975705_1507996352695261_1024304766148149248_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQltYs3054yKIitcC7dCx1INm-H-oIwyxh4h2GP05w0ZAneoprx4C9LchRlFv6ejTdI&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=e4b51e5e4ccd7819914bef791320afa4&oe=5ECC053E)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 19, 2020, 02:57:30 am
LOL! Love the picture!

I shook my guitar and unless there's alien spiders livin' in there that eat picks, I didn't get so lucky. I'm drilling a hole in my next one and attaching a string or elastic thread to it long enough to slip over a finger. (Seriously) Also gathering plastic cards from the mail and just going to cut some out. (I'll probably find those if they fall since they will probably suck, Murphy's law and all.)

The Kay acoustic is supposed to arrive tomorrow by 9pm. I'm excited. However, it isn't even showing Amazon shipped it yet so i'm not sure they won't change my delivery date tomorrow on me suddenly. Hopefully they didn't loose it in the warehouse.

Found Justin's video on buying the cheapest acoustic on Amazon and i'm not as scared now. He didn't like it, but even it's more playable than the one I have at the moment. (The practice clip demonstrates how out of tune fretted notes are and it's a 0 fret guitar so that isn't me.) I can relate to him disliking cheap instruments. Playing the uke then swapping to something drastically under the price range is cringy in feel, sound and playability. Way it goes though.

YouTube still won't let me activate the bell icon on any new subscriptions like JustinGuitar, so I still can't get notified when new videos come out!!!!!! 😠

Excited about the guitar though. I got a tri action capo with more gift certificates and it works with the tiny tenor uke, and the acoustic. I assume it will work fine on the electric guitar but haven't tested it yet. It messes with my head a bit since the dots don't mean anything with it on. I tried to play Down and Out with the capo on the 3rd fret but I was second guessing where the F#diminished was supposed to land because the higher I go on the neck the more drastically out of tune things get unless I yank back on the neck really hard to try to put it back where it's supposed to be glued on. (I don't want to speed the process of the neck cracking off either. Breaking a string is traumatic enough. I will probably have nightmares over the sound of the neck cracking off.

Played the ear training game on the website again and got to level 5 barely. I need to find the courses. It's kind of fun to do right before I go to sleep though. I was only figuring out most of them by humming how many steps I think are between the first and second note. Rick Beato released a video on intervals today. I guess humming the steps is a real thing at least! I saved it to revisit when I know what i'm doing more since his stuff is more advanced then I am at the moment, but him going over the steps and half steps made sense on how they work and are named.

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 19, 2020, 10:01:25 am
NO NO NO!!!! Amazon cancelled my guitar! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on February 19, 2020, 10:21:08 am
I can see why your initial reaction is that.
However, can I counter with a 'blessing in disguise' type message.
You already have a cheap acoustic that is horrible to play.
To be frank, that Kay guitar would have been a classic case of good money after bad.
It would not have been a reasonable guitar at a modest price.
It would also have been a cheap guitar that is horrible to play.
Do yourself a massive favour.
Do not buy another cheap acoustic that is horrible to play.
Either:
1] use that money to buy a btter guitar from the 2nd hand market - you will get something much better that just happens not to be brand new
2] save that money and add to it over the coming weeks / months and buy a better new guitar.

In the mean time, de-tune your strings by a full tone and use a capo on fret 2.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 19, 2020, 12:18:24 pm
Sadly it's gift certificates. Using money can't happen so i'm stuck on Amazon. I'm seeing what else is available. The one I have now I really liked actually before the neck started falling off. The 0 fret is awesome.

Still trying to find electric treble string reviews so I can play that stupid thing without it destroying the picking nails on my right hand I have left. I'm guessing whatever is on there must be hex core or something so i'm looking at round core string sets right now. (Hoping the trebles won't be sharp barby cheese graters... Or info on if the coatings help with that, or if it's even on the trebles in those sets.)

Capo and dropping the tuning sadly doesn't change the closer I get to where the neck joins the body the more out of tune the notes are until they get to two frets the same note at 12 because of the crack... I tried earlier after seeing your post to someone else about relieving neck pressure. 😕

But thank you Close2u 💖


Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on February 19, 2020, 02:36:32 pm
If you want a reasonable guitar off Amazon the best you will get at a sensible price is the brands Donner or Enya, I’ve got both of their brands of Ukuleles and played both of their reasonably priced guitars, both are pretty good especially for what they cost!
Look for this:
4.6 out of 5 stars  38 Reviews
Donner DAG-1C Beginner Acoustic Guitar Full Size, 41" Cutaway Guitar Bundle with Gig Bag Tuner Capo Picks Strap String
Or this:
4.3 out of 5 stars  12 Reviews
Donner DAG-1CE Electro Acoustic Guitar Cutaway 41" Full-size Guitar Bundle Built-in Preamp with Bag Strap Tuner String
Or this:
5.0 out of 5 stars  8 Reviews
Enya EM-X1 Acoustic Guitar HPL 36 Inch Travel Guitar D'Addario Strings Beginner Bundle with Free Guitar bag,Capo,Tuner, Strap Etc.
These are also OK, I have visited their UK warehouse to have a look see when they first started up and was impressed!
4.7 out of 5 stars  68 Reviews
Lindo Purple Swallow Electro Acoustic Guitar with Dreamcatcher Inlay & Gig Bag
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 19, 2020, 08:46:24 pm
DarrellW -I looked up those models and put them in my cart this morning after I read your post. To watch for cosmetic price drops, except the Lindo. The 2 models of Lindo they have in the states are $300-$700.... Even half destroyed with structural damage they wouldn't price drop enough lol.

But. Things got weird.

Long super strange day where things were coming out to be "just enough" for everything. Basically a series of events happened and I ended up searching guilele's.

My friend gave me a recount of the same "just enough" thing happening to him today.

Found a Yamaha GL1 guilele that was exactly my remaining gift balance.

It's at least I know it's a good instrument. Not quite a proper guitar, but I shouldn't have a problem with it. Just a fourth higher. It's small too which will probably be a "perfect size" if the events and Fate were really trying to get me there. (My broken acoustic is just a little bigger than a baritone uke.)

First Amazon cancelled, then Close2U said it was a blessing in disguise, then too much stuff to ignore happening today to me, & my friend had the same thing happening and he left me with the words:

"I (he) was letting Fate happen today because everything was working out perfectly." "I (he) just stepped back and got out of the way and let things play out."

I'm going to step back and get out of the way of Fate today. It's been too weird today for me to ignore.

DarrellW- The fact you play uke and guitar, same rockclass101 upbringing too, even feeds into the series of events.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on February 20, 2020, 12:36:10 am
Yeah, I used to have a Donner Guitalele, it was pretty good if anything better than the Yamaha, the only thing that can be a pest is the Fluocarbon strings that take time to stretch in and hold tune but you probably know that anyway!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 21, 2020, 06:28:37 pm
02-21-2020 - The guilele is arriving today at some point. :)

Tried to see if I could play some of the things I was figuring out on ukulele on the acoustic. Not really. Only successful thing was the main riff to Prelude to Madness./ Inspector Gadget/ and that Slayer riff that uses the same notes... Depending on which strings it's played on, it's almost the same as uke though. Need to try this on the electric and see if I can work out some of the free guitar plugins to make it sound more like Prelude to Madness.. (Doubtful lol)

Practiced Down and Out more. I'm kind of stuck singing bum-ba-de-da to it in my head. It's making what i'm playing sound the same..... Sigh. Once I can get the transitions smooth I really have to see what I can do to change the pattern for it.. because bum-ba-de-da.. facepalm.

Ukulele -Got super frustrated trying to get those harmonic chords on uke again. Tried for about an hour. I'm almost out of time. I may not get them before I need to record something for the challenge... Might get super inspired by the guilele though. I can tell it's strings will annoy me from videos of the GL1, they're roundwound. Won't be able to do anything about it for a while so hopefully the ones that come on it aren't too dead.

Need to investigate this "practice assistant" thing now that I have a collection of things I'd like to work on.
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DarrellW - Yeah, it's not my first choice for a guilele. But it was a safe choice and everything was pointing me at it that day!!

I can't wait to see what the GL1's voice is in.... That's exciting because i'm a nerd I guess lol.

I love (some) flourocarbon strings. Once they finish stretching they're great until I wear deep groves in them. The GL1 comes with nylon installed it looks like....

I will probably try those nanoweb coated strings when I can afford them on electric. It looks like they have enough goo on them to make slides less noisy.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on March 05, 2020, 06:27:59 pm
03-05-2020 - Still working on Down and Out. Still messing around with the chord progression. Been experimenting with how i'm playing each variation. Improvised lyrics are still silly.

GL-1 guitalele has some mfg. defects. Going to exchange it. I have been playing it a lot, but the issues aren't cosmetic. It's awesome though! It sounds like a ukulele. It's built quite solidly lol. The bracing inside doesn't exactly give me confidence it would let... well... ANYTHING vibrate. My impression is like it was built more to be more likely to survive minor accidents, like someone stepping on it for a moment outside. Maybe dropping it.

I already think about playing in that range. It just adds two bass strings. It's actually a good thing for me.

Frets are cut short at the soundhole, and the frets down the entire bottom of the neck weren't tapped in properly so they ski ramp up. I thought it was fret pop, which wouldn't be a problem but the company finished the fret edges with a wood filler or something. It appears the frets were finished at the factory this way and didn't lift in storage or shipping. I'm not a luthier but it's pretty obvious, especially since I was able to examine the filler application where there was no fret wire when the machine went around the board or whatever goes on at the factory.

The ski ramp part would be fixed during a set up but I would loose an excessive amount of fret wire on that side. Add that to the two frets not only ramping on the right, but also cut very short on the other side.... I just can't rationalize NOT exchanging it. I really looked forward to having those extra frets finally. I do hate the factory set of strings on it. I kind of love the nylon trebble strings. They have a  neat sound and are lower tension then i'm used to. The wrapped basses are not my thing. I like strings that have more balanced volume across them all. I play pretty lightly.. Like I probably need to learn to dig in more - type lightly, and the 4 basses need special treatment or they get surprising.

A fretboard redo on a new instrument is playability issues, not cosmetic issues like a gash or scratches.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on March 05, 2020, 08:10:28 pm
It’s most likely been returned already for the same reason as you want to return it for, don’t put up with those sort of defects - unless it was stated before purchase you’re within your rights to return it!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on March 13, 2020, 11:31:31 pm
Getting the replacement GL-1 back from being set up tomorrow afternoon. Yea! Happy that my friend decided to cover it for my B-day. So awesome and unexpected.

Luthier said he was surprised it sounded as nice as it does. A customer was surprised it sounded good when I dropped it off. Now if I can play good enough to make it sound great under my fingers it will be a huge bonus lol.

I'm posting audio Friday hopefully. Progress with Down & Out, and/or probably Lagrima using the ukulele side of it for the other challenge.

Excited!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: batwoman on March 14, 2020, 12:24:45 am
I'm posting audio Friday hopefully. Progress with Down & Out, and/or probably Lagrima using the ukulele side of it for the other challenge.

Excited!

Looking forward to that Becky.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on March 23, 2020, 01:24:30 am
Recorded a really cringy entry for the uke challenge... I didn't want to share this here because i'm fully aware it's horrible, but meh.

It's played on the Yamaha guitalele anyway.. Superbly awful recording job this time. I really like the song though. Going to try to get a better recording more on par of how I normally play it, if I can get over the record button panic which set in hardcore this time? Not sure why. I was shaking and everything which hadn't happened in a while. Sigh.

https://soundcloud.com/becky-p-145846069/lagrima

I warned it was cringy lol. I totally didn't lie.

Been practicing ukulele and guitar about 4 hours a day. (Combined) Got a high e on the electric finally yesterday was broken a few days. Tried set of Daddario half-rounds. I like them for reduced sneaker squeak, but they aren't polished feeling. Should have gotten 9's or 8's. Thought 10 was standard but these are heavier than the set that came on the guitar.

Started trying the practice assistant timer on the site. Not sure what to put in for stats on pretty much anything. It's just a timer with an alarm. Giving it a shot. Would like to find a lesson that uses the video part of it. Haven't found one yet.

Tried the string bending lesson here. It's a bit discouraging to not be able to use the motion he suggests... It uses the area in my arm that's damaged. I can't even do a micro bend with that motion without severe pain... So I am stuck using finger bends or not bending strings at all. :(

Can't palm mute for a similar reason so im pretty depressed about it all right now. I still can't find an alternative for palm muting...

Other than that, things are going okay for now for us. My county is #2 in Illinois for most cases of the virus.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on March 23, 2020, 05:34:05 am
Glad you shared it, Becky.

Maybe my ears are calibrated, auto-filter and do tend to make a silk purse from a sow's ear ... but I never cringed.  Yup, one or two flubs and there are the signal-noise issues that we've chatted about before.  I'd also try and trim the recording before uploading to eliminate the start and end noise. But the piece itself was lovely and you sound like you are making good progress.

Sorry to hear of all the other challenges ... arm related.  Keep persevering and I guess in time you'll figure things out and develop your own ways that work for you and allow you to make the music you want to make.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on March 23, 2020, 11:26:28 am
Hi Becky, it’s not cringeworthy at all, work is definitely needed but I worry that you’re trying to practice for that period of time nursing an injury! Potentially it could get worse and leave you with a longer term to get it better! You’ve taken on a fairly difficult piece for your level so it should help on your submission for the competition, tidy it up a bit and it will be fine! The main thing is to get shut of the background hiss, when that’s gone it will sound much better! Take care and look after yourself!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on March 25, 2020, 11:17:52 pm
Thank you both for the cheerful encouragement. It's not how it's supposed to be yet though. Funny enough Lagrima uses two augmented chords in it too lol! Just two finger versions of it. I wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for here. 😄👍 Stitch's post about moving them helped me ID them.

BTW- The rockclass101 challenges are so we challenge ourselves at whatever skill we are at, and keep practicing. He usually has a beginner, intermediate, and advanced choice every month.

If we play his arrangements the winner is randomly drawn from all the entries, so no one feels they shouldn't try against other people. I don't ever win anything. Started doing the challenges as soon as I started playing. My first song on uke was The Walking Dead theme. (I entered and was all happy I learned a song) I enjoy doing them though. I think they accelerated my learning, just to have a deadline to learn a song and whatever techniques by. (Andrew's a great teacher and makes great arrangements too imo which helps.)

Practice journal below.

I've been working on the fretboard more. I dumped all the notes but G. Working on knowing G on the electric guitar and on the guitalele. (And uke) I have the electric G's down. Working on G's on the guitalele and uke. It's harder to memorize for some reason. Going to see where i'm at in 5 days. I'd like to have G down so well I can find any of them immediately, no hesitation. On any string, in any combo.

Doing Signals Music Studio's ear training coarse along with Justin's free portion. Was hoping to get a clue what is going on with the descending intervals especially.

Tried a few more songs... Using the first two chords from, every breath you take as a stretching exercise since I can't mute. I don't have problems with my short pinky finger, but my hands are small too. The second chord is my extreme maximum reach (ever) on my hand. Moving my first finger on that second chord is pretty much a buzzy disaster I start body contortions to keep things fretted with.

Tentatively I may have the first note of the walkdown in st elsewhere finally!!!!! Going to play against the song and if I think I do have it, going to write it down and ask somewhere here and I can move onto figuring out the chords for the melody and actually play one dang song *I* want to play.

Trying the practice assistant still.
Justin seems to have reinstalled most of the website diagrams too which is helpful.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 03, 2020, 06:42:06 am
04-02-2020

Found mostly okay tabs for Last Dawn by Savatage on Songster. Would rather learn When the Crowds are Gone, but that's harder, and much longer than Last Dawn. Need to go slow with it on these electric guitar strings. I absolutely do not have bar calluses for these heavier strings yet lol! Ouch! I was not working on toughening that finger properly. This song will do it.

Trying the "Do not play it wrong." Method so i'm holding the silly bar chords down for much longer than I would like, as I pick out of them. It's also proving I had no strength in my fingers.

Looping the first 8 bars right now of Last Dawn. Using a pick, will need to use hybrid picking when I get a bit farther into the song. Will need to examine the end. It doesn't sound totally correct against the song.

Need to take frequent breaks so I don't abuse my apparently baby soft pointer finger on the heavy strings too badly.

Practicing with wicked guitar tuner dot coms online metronome that has a hihat sound at 50 bpm. Not sure a metronome is a good idea until I can remember exactly where to chord, to not miss beats, but it's more seeing if it doesn't drive me insane at the moment. The metronome is kind of neat, other drum sounds can be added and it's customizable.

Still working on my practice regimen. Still don't have G down instantly over the whole fretboard with no errors or hesitation at higher speeds especially when I try to go random strings, with the find the note exercise.. That's frustrating. Need to figure out a better way to quiz myself for randoms.

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 04, 2020, 04:08:15 am
04-03-2020

My bar chord clarity is improving in the beginning of Last Dawn in bar 10 on Songster. Doing very short sessions on the bar chord progression with the mind to not play a note unless I know it's correct is helping with muscle memory. When im doing the pull off to the bar finger I still struggle a LOT to not have muted strings but I isolated my problem there. I expect as my strength improves and my skin toughens a bit I will get it better. My arm's at a hugely awkward angle playing in the 1st fret, let alone that pull off. Really wish I could put my elbow out away from my body... But if I had a penny every time I wished that, i'd be rich...

When the song came out I could sing the whole thing. Don't know if people still do that with band's instrumentals. Was magical to be part of a crowded arena who were all singing any band's  instrumentals.. 💖

Not doing this month's RC ukulele challenge probably. If I do, it would probably be Day-O because of crazy bad things that happen every time I play Hawaiian songs. It's superstitious but i'll stay safe with all the bad going on right now, why potentially invite it.

Think i'm going to focus on Tobias' new uke lesson. Got the chance to look over the tabs and how it was presented and think it will help fill in what i'm missing connecting all these melody lines I know with all the stupid chords I don't quite understand... Got to admit I got really good at figuring out one note wonder melodies. I just can't DO anything with them!!!!!!!! I haven't found what exactly I have to learn yet so I keep digging randomly around theory and YouTube till I find "it."

Close2U's example of the scales lined up with the 6's and 9's highlighted compared to other scales clicked a notch in my cog tonight too. (Ty close2u, I downloaded that to reference when I get closer to whatever theory tipping point i'm getting closer to.)

I tend to be confused a long time then suddenly I learn one thing that connects everything and I feel like Neo saying "I know kung fu." when theory junk clicks.

Bill Withers passed away too..  :(
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: batwoman on April 04, 2020, 04:18:46 am
I tend to be confused a long time then suddenly I learn one thing that connects everything and I feel like Neo saying "I know kung fu." when theory junk clicks.

Oh yeah Becky, I hear you. I did the same thing this morning. Been plodding along with a midi bass track for 8 weeks, just couldn't get it right. Opened the file today and ta da, I could hear what was wrong and more importantly what I needed to change. Now to get the drums right.

close2u (Richard) is a treasure house of knowledge and generosity. We are so very fortunate to have him moderating this forum. 
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 04, 2020, 07:56:04 am
Good vibes foor you Becky  8)

I love reading your RC posts ... being an inside observer of your journey, your discoveries, your ups and downs and the wonderful way you tell your story.

It's inspirational and helps keep my motor running when I might be working my way up the hill to the next tipping point.

Look forward to hearing Last Dawn when you reach the point that you are ready to share ...
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on April 04, 2020, 08:08:48 am
Becky you’re a gem! Good vibes from me too - I really enjoy your turn of phrase and your ability to make it interesting!
It’s great to see that you’re finding out things for yourself, I think that’s one of the most important things to be able to do; having been a Research and Development engineer most of my working life it’s always been easy for me but it’s hard work for anyone who hasn’t yet acquired that skill - stick at it, you’re doing good!!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on April 04, 2020, 10:32:51 am
Keep these updates coming in your unique and inimitable style Becky. :)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 08, 2020, 06:26:38 am
04-07-2020 (Exciting for me, not so much for others probably, but thanks guys 💖)

I was practicing Last Dawn on the electric, my strength gives out in my fretting arm pretty quickly. I messed with Amplitude, Rev plate, and a few other effects I had kicking around in the DAW earlier and got an interesting tone.

I love that the body vibration sound the electric has, is picked up on the DAW. Think it's an Ash body? I'm not really up on loving the stupid noise floor I got going on, even plugged in... Seriously why?

One of the effects had a gate button that said "learn" I pushed it, and it attempted to remove the noise. Did a really decent job, so:

I have to look at noise gates, what they do, and how to use one properly. (And what plugins I have that includes them so I have a choice on other junk they will add. I don't have an amp.)

I don't really know the shapes so I can't say I KNOW the scale, but close2U's scale diagram actually did click the cog a notch. I actually knew I was in the different places on the neck based around the root finally. Can't say I know the patterns well, Still going off sounds because memorizing this stuff isn't my strength. Worked off the pattern picture from memory. Which wasn't close to perfect, added in a lot of bad notes lol. Made some good progress "talking" in phrases during this. Was messing with intervals here too.

Spent an hour or 2 today messing with voice leading and drone strings while exploring double stops on the GL-1.

Actually was able to identify some of the intervals by name as I was playing which is a bit huge. Probably a glitch, but felt huge.

"Transcribed" The thing I was playing. I named the, motif? I guess? "Hunting in the North" lol. It sounds like music that might play in a snowy forrest hunting area in a fantasy game lol. I was really getting into it though 😊. Transcribed is a loose term too, btw. It's just tabs so I wouldn't forget it... no other markings... But it's written down, and not terribly complicated.

I don't quite have G down instantly. I do have it down enough to locate it fairly quickly now. Need another exercise I can add to "Find the note G" Need a good way to work it.

Think I finally figured out the walkdown to the St Elsewhere Theme on uke! No one would help me, but think I finally figured out the stupid note I can't hear properly, that the walkdown starts on!💖 Since I have been messing with the 4 in a row phrasing I was ready for it, and it resolved to the right place in the melody! 👍👍👍👍👍  Need to test it against the song still. Taking a break, but got to write that all down. (At least that one dumb note, if nothing else.)

Was pretty productive today even though I neglected "proper" practice. Was more of a fun explore what I've learned kind of day. It's kind of neat that stuff is soaking in more. Takes patience lol.





Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 08, 2020, 11:15:09 am
Fabulous update Becky ... loads of positive achievements.

I'd love to hear "Hunting in the North".  I did something similar (at least I think so based on your description). I called it "Voices of Vincent Blue Beast".  And if that makes you curious, go check it out in AVOYP ... I wrote a novella about it as well as posting the video :)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 14, 2020, 07:27:42 pm
Not showing I replied to David.. Maybe I didn't send it? Sorry David.

Wrote a 2 page pdf on what happened to me. Decided to just say:

I cut/scratched my eye,. I poked the same eye pretty badly. I developed a bad infection which was traveling down to my arm finally from the sinus thing. (Can't go to the doctor or hospital thanks to our super duper president taking away the cruddy healthcare I used to have. Can't get reinstated now.) Self medicated on 3 leftover ciprofloxacin from 2015 prescribed to my mom before she passed away. And I hope my immune system might be able to fight the rest of it off now.

Because I was in so much pain and couldn't hear, I didn't even pick up an instrument for however long that lasted. (At least 5 days I think)

Noodled around today with St. Elsewhere on uke, stumbled over starting to figure out the Godfather Theme on electric guitar, which actually kind-of legitimately IS a one note wonder melody being violin. sounds pretty amazing on electric. Can definitely put lots of feel in it. Found out Slash did the tune too (but with his style and a solo), so it's not obscure. Probably will work on it some more. Kind of sad it seems to be a giant internet meme though, it's a pretty song.

Hopefully will get back to a more regular practice schedule but still pretty blah feeling at the moment.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 15, 2020, 07:19:40 am
Sorry to hear of the injury and health struggles, Becky

Look forward to hearing your rendition of the Godfather Theme.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 18, 2020, 02:07:01 am
04-17-2020 (guitar progress!)

Saw Justin had released The "Steady Thumb Blues" to the unwashed masses the other day. Jumped on that immediately.

Other than it being a tease for the course, (dang you Justin!) it's SO FUN to play! Also it's pretty much EXACTLY where I am learning-wise. Got to learn the bridge bar technique. 👍 Also thought my thumb independence was good until it started to get syncopated with the stuff in the last half of bar 4. I didn't stumble on that long though, it was just awkward while I got used to doing it. (Thank you for including the tabs Justin! 💖 Makes a huge difference. Definitely wouldn't be able to get back on the reservation with this song, without them lol.)

After learning the first 2 bars I shot off and was improvising stuff with the bass thing going yesterday. The melody lines for Come Together- Beatles,... and an old Lita Ford song I forgot the name to atm, fit in nicely with it to go even further off the reservation, before grabbing the open E + G, in the written song to get back to the 12 bar thing again.

I have to to work on Steady Thumb Blues as written more. I definitely am going to record this one. As a "Thank You" for the great lesson and the tabs. It will be interesting to hear what it sounds like plugged into my computer. It sounds nice on the electric guitar unplugged. Thinking I will keep the tone pretty clean. I am definitely going to try the rev-plate again for the tube. Their tube sounds so good. I don't have much to compare it to, but rev-plate definitely has a great sounding tube, to my ears at least.

Need to learn how to put the effects on my tracks in a way that leaves me with clean guitar tracks, or at least 1 of the 2 clean. Found a setting from a youtube video that might let me finally do this. I was chaining the tracks together wrong. There's a "only to this track" option that doesn't throw the track to the linked track and the master.

Made progress with noise cleanup. Found a video on where to find how to deal with noise in the wrapper. Having a hell of a time selecting a noise sample, I haven't got the slightest clue how to get a reasonably small sized selection in the wrapper.

Going to definitely move to my next "Find the Note." I have successfully done "G" now.

I know it's been forever on 1 stinking note.... Well, 12 G notes on guitar, actually. I can go to them quickly enough, if I can flip on my intelligence switch while playing, I can ID being on a G. Because of that, I can sort-of reference stuff that sounds okay around the area.  I think that's good enough to move on finally. As long as I refresh, I won't loose it.

Instead of "A", being next, might do B&C. Someone commented on Brandon Acker's latest tips video which dealt with learning the fretboard like this. The guy started on the two note pairs that don't have a sharp or flat between, and it helped him reference the fretboard for the rest of the notes easier. Makes sense, do the odd ones out first. Why not. Needed G, for uke arrangements between guitalele and uke, as well as for the high g notes if something is written in high g. Did G on guitar because I was doing it on everything else. After "B" & "C," fitting in "A" shouldn't be an issue.

Oh, i'm missing my calluses that popped off from the washing + sanitizer. Sigh, they were my "playing-stamina armor." I can't play for as long as I want anymore without them. Bruised my pointer finger and made my other fingertips a bit sore finding that bit out. Bummer. The sanitizer is helping make new ones I think, by the instant skin drying action it has. It also has a residue that scrapes off on the strings. Looks icky. It's making me get in the habit of wiping down with microfiber more after I play at least, lol. Something I should do anyway.

The strings I got, say they're stainless steel... They seem to be oxidizing a bit. Had black marks on my fingers after playing yesterday... Thought stainless steel (being the key words here!) wouldn't oxidize. I still like the strings, it's just strange. Theyre the orange DAddario half round regular light set. (Which isn't too light imo) Ordered them through a division of Sweetwater on Amazon, so I trust they aren't knockoff strings.

Found out I can palm mute kind-of... but I can't reach the first 3 frets if I do. Can barely fret on 4 but it's pushing it. Still not worth the pain involved. i still won't be chugging any power chords anytime soon, but at least I can eventually try now if I capo. Would love to see how I can reach on a shorter scale electric someday.

Found a few more free interval trainers to test myself with online, Just incase they used different notes and I was somehow memorizing Justins. Don't think I am memorizing the pairs from my results between trainers. I still have a hard time with the flat 6th. My brain gets muddy if I try to do the trainers too long too. I still can't ID the flat 3rd by anything other than "If I like the sound, It's a flat 3rd." That doesn't seem fool-proof, but so far has been working okay. I need to actually play the intervals like he suggests. Still unsure I'd play them right, which is making me not do it as an exercise. Need to see if I can find a tab picture somewhere in the vast internet stew, especially for the B string stuff. I can, and do, change the "song" references so "singing" "when the saints go marching in" for a 3rd, works equally well for flat 3rd, and 4th. (You see my delema) Especially after hearing the intervals in a trainer for a little while. Might be "good" I can do that, I have no idea. It annoys the crud out of me at the moment. It would be nice to be able to use the song references.

Going to work on the Steady Thumb Blues more tonight. Hopefully I can stay focused this time and get the song as written down lol. If not, i'll enjoy improvising, but really want to get it as written.

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David ty. It's getting better. Whole situation was me, having a streak of being very accident prone with a big dose of bad luck. Feeling a lot better. Eye is getting better looking too.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 18, 2020, 07:20:09 am
Thanks for another inspiring update, Becky.

Though makes me feel a little envious in hearing how much progress you made on Steady Thumb Blues so quickly.  I started yesterday and I reckon it will take plenty prat=ctice for me to get even the first two bars sounding OK.  But worth it as I aspire to play this style of music.

And good vibes to you for your helpful post to Tarryn over on her RC.

Lastly, from where I sit I'm yet to see you commit murder of any song.  Sure, one or two rough edges but I think you are (like so many of us) your harshest critic.  All I've heard would go down fine in the AVOYP area.

Take care
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on April 18, 2020, 09:39:43 am
I remember that bridge-bar ... whooee ... it took a little fiddling around with to get it sounding clean.

Check this thread ... https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=23706.0
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: frito on April 25, 2020, 04:16:53 am

You're too hard on yourself.  I thought it sounded really good.  I find it so much harder having to pick out individual notes vs. strumming chords.  Full chords are so much more forgiving so to that I say hats off to you and this performance.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 29, 2020, 07:06:58 pm
I plan on recording Steady Thumb Blues so I have been plugging in to the computer to practice.

- Thumb needs work. Need to practice with a metronome. (God I hate the beeping!!)

-Need to dig in more with thumb somehow to get the bass stronger. --Test standing up for adjustability of guitar angle to have my fingers at a better angle to strings to get a less scratchy sound.

-"Drive" in context, was apparently THE word I needed to explain dynamics....

-Need to work on "drive". I get it now... The electric guitar actually pointed this out the first day I plugged it into the computer. I just had no clue what I was looking for. Since the electric uses a different touch,? I have no idea what it's called... then an acoustic instrument. It plays differently. I need to build my own guitar sound on electric first because it has "no sound", then learn to use that "voice" which technically shouldn't be hard because it's however I decide to be "singing" at the time.. It's all not what i'm used to, using acoustics. Since I have very few options right now with VST's I need to look into a basic clean and a basic distortion sound that I can open easily in a project and have as default if I can save profiles. Back on topic, yes I can see there's no "excitement" which comes from volume swells from agressive playing. Aggressive playing are keywords for me... Investigating plucking on electric.. Need to record myself and listen back to see if I can do something, or if something else triggers. Can't move my arm around. I can knock a bit if i'm careful, but no wall-of-sound swell-into-the-chorus strumming can happen.

-I EQ -ed out most of the noise prior to recording on both channels. Works as a fast bandaid but unhappy the noise is in the range where there needs to be a little "openness". Instead it's squished sounding dealing with noise. Still haven't successfully removed the remaining noise inside the wrapper yet after the recording. It's "supposedly" easy. Hasn't happened yet. Be nice to be able to remove it all without the eq in pre.

Need to spend some time with the study on 3rds close2u did asap. Shooting for that after doing a "where im at" recording with Steady Thumb Blues. Today or tomorrow. It's raining.

-I'm not trusting myself in the bridge bar section. I slow down. I get the fingering in time (most of the time) Then I pause... I also need mild work on bar 8. Flubbing fingers there 1/2 the time. (The mistakes sound fine. Just wrong fingers) Added in embellishment. Triplets on second and first half of end walkdown. Microbends/blues curls. Slides into notes elsewhere. Triplet is only hard one (for me) to add. Missing the entire STRING a lot. Making it sound exciting needs work. Messed with other endings. Having a lot of fun messing with solo-ish bits still.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Majik on April 30, 2020, 04:25:06 am
The "voice" you are referring to is what people usually call "tone". I would suggest that, for Steady Thumb Blues and similar, you might want to investigate a "crunch tone" which is normally obtained by using overdrive. This can vary from a slight overdrive where the overdrive provides a bit of compression of the louder sections typically with some slight "break up" whilst the softer sounds are clean, through to a rockier tone similar to AC/DC riffs.

Experiment with overdrive at different gain settings and different dynamics (by "dynamics" I mean playing the guitar strings harder or softer).

Also, if you are using PC plugins, you should really have a guitar amp simulator of some sort, such as a tube amp sim. This may have enough built-in overdrive that you don't need a separate overdrive plugin. These will normally also have speaker cabinet simulation.

Cheers,

Keith

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 30, 2020, 05:43:15 am
Looking forward to hearing your STB, Becky.  I think you are doing ever so well to have reached the point you are at with it.  Of course, I am judging from my own perspective, where right now I'd be happy to play the intro and first 4 bars consistently clean and without errors  ::)

For the rest, Majik makes a good point on getting a simulator for an amp for the DAW.  I have one that I purchased (Waves GTR).  There are others.  I expect there are some free ones as well, though don't know for sure.  There was a video posted in the Forum about Home Recording and I seem to think there were some recommendations made in that video.

For removing signal noise, you may have to shell out some $$$.  I have a noise filter from Waves, which works really well for me.  Not aware of any free filters, as I recall when I looked I came up blank.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Majik on April 30, 2020, 06:36:34 am
I did a quick search and came across this list:

https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2012/02/21/bpb-freeware-studio-best-free-guitar-amp-simulator-vstau-plugins/

Cheers,

Keith

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Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on May 17, 2020, 10:06:01 pm
Downloaded Black Rooster Audio's version of the Tiny Terror amp head. (It's free) Messed with that. Slapped Raum on it and have something that sounds decent playing along with blues tracks. I have it saved as "I want my mtv" preset. It sounds like that kind of. I am currently playing with Raum's Cosmic settings. It gives me a clean bonus chorus note with the added extended sustain. Cosmic lets you fiddle with modulation. 

Had a strange problem recording. When I hit play I only got a strange noise. Sounded fine on the headphone as I was recording. looked fine in the Daw. I set up a new project, i'm going to try again. I had just been forced to update windows so maybe got corrupted somehow? I exported the strange noise track to chop up at some point and synth it's got potential. Input isn't going above 10db. Noise floor is low and have parametric eq on the 2 channels and the master to change the frequency of more of the noise. Have every channel set to post effects this time.

Crossing my fingers this works
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on June 10, 2020, 01:06:16 am
Well it's been a bit. I've been committing deforestation in the back yard from weeds and weed trees now that we have okay weather. Been practicing, but not in a super structured way.

1) I found out what was causing my DAW to produce the feedback!!! (Or whatever it is)
  It matters what order effects are loaded into the channels!! No one seems to mention this. Not sure why??! I can use the same effects but they need to be in a certain order or when you hit play the only thing that's turning up recorded is screeching noise and no guitar. Funny enough, like I mentioned, you can't tell until you stop recording. Everything sounds and looks fine until then.

Tried to record S-T-B last night but I was stressed and it was 110 °F in the house. (Couldn't get into it) That tropical storm is bringing rain today and cooler weather tomorrow. :)

Been researching all I can online about composition and songwriting. I'd like to work on my song about my encounters with the mountain lion, and I was inspired and enraged by the George Floyd tradegy. (I'm not big on lyrics but I do have a lot to say about what is going down, so figured i'd try to write a song... Easier said then done however since im a noob..

Found a YouTube channel called Digital Tour Bus. Found out they're based in Illinois. Really fun to see how big and small bands live on the road and hear people's tips and tricks for surviving tours. Since I've never heard of most of the bands, i've found a few from many different genres that are pretty good.

Found someone who said they would take a look at teaching Two Djinn!!!!!! I started crying when he said he'd give it a shot. It's a song that means a lot to me and there's a chance I might actually learn one of my bucket list songs before I die. I'm dropping everything and focusing on that, and anything I need to do to play it, if he does the lesson. It also falls under one of the few songs i'm willing to croak out vocally, since I can't sing. So it will be interesting.

BTW- I never mentioned it, but I did get my strength for my stupid heavy strings. I'm not having problems with them anymore holding the bars. My skin toughened on my bar finger to compensate and my finger strength improved. I may not go back to lighter strings. I'm kind of liking these now that they don't kill me, but the nut binds on the thicker strings a little.

Got $20 and bought a pre-roasted chicken, microwavable mashed potatoes, a packet of gravey mix, and a bottle of strawberry Nesquick. I can finally eat something other than Ramen Noodles! Looking forward to that as soon as it cools down a bit. Shouldn't have wasted money on the bottle of Nesquick but it was so good.

Anyway just checking in. I still can't really tell if i'm getting any better but I solved the mystery noise problem!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on June 10, 2020, 06:40:14 am
Becky, good to hear from you, on matters guitar and life in general. Sounds like you are keeping up and getting on.

Interested to hear a little bit more about the ordering of fx to generate noise.

On my 10 minutes a day most days, I am making slow progress on S-T-B, playing through to bar 8 now.

Take care

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on June 16, 2020, 03:11:24 am
HA! Another little boost for diminished chords being in songs I love. One of the guitar guys i'm subbed to on YouTube broke down the Fade To Black intro and why it works today. Other than a diminished chord popping up in there, the video covers note movement between the triads while keeping one note the same. I want to explore that a lot more since I've been messing with voice leading. (And gotta get the name for it again) I kind of had an "oooooo" moment over that. (Yep, i'm a nerd, and i'm sure i'm skipping over a lot but, ooooo! As I get farther in theory stuff, bits and pieces slam into place even if I skip around.)

Been enjoying some of Justin's new videos, and filling in more gaps. I was improvising with his backing track during my AM practice. I was unhappy with what I came up with. It sounded like a vocal melody. I wasn't going for what I got... I'm missing info in this area. (It was acceptable for what the lesson wanted though)

Signals Music Studio did a shred solo lesson and broke what he did down. I want to look into that more.

Tonight's PM practice will be: going over MT's arrangement of the Slopes of Blessure. I've been trilling for a while and other than some tricky fast changes involving trills, it looks do-able for what i've been practicing to do with fingerstyle already. (Not saying it's 'easy' he even says it's a challenge, but it's intermediate/ advanced, classical-esque fingerpicking. It's very much in my wheelhouse of practiced techniques, and is a pretty arrangement..)

Abandoned the song I was writing again. (But I recorded the idea on my tablet so I wouldn't forget)

I was / am working on How Will I Laugh Tomorrow, by Suicidal Tendencies. (instrumental on guitalele.) The intro riff uses a trill, and that bridge bar movement from Steady Thumb Blues. (Thank you again Justin! Looks like i'll be finding all kinds of uses for that. :) ) The riff or lick near the end is fun just because it's the fastest solo-y thing I know at the moment other then the bipity-bopity-boo shreddy thing I figured out. The end riff is only using hammer ons and pull offs. Kind of proud I figured that out by ear even though it's kind of simple and short. Small wins add up.

David - That's awesome! I think it's a blast to play. I really have to get cracking on recording... It tends to stress me out because i'm never happy with anything because of my stupid lack of good timing. I don't think I can give you many details on the vst conflicts. I didn't really go all beta testing mode on it. I was pretty frustrated over the whole situation. I'm not having loads of fun "dialing in a tone" I think it's frustrating. I know what I want to hear, and am having problems producing the sound. (This is why gear sells i'm sure lol)

--------------
Afterthought: **
I should think about working on my ukulele arrangement of the X-Files Theme again. I got stuck when it changes into the weird note combinations in the B part. (I have no idea what's going on there yet. Not even sure I can retain hearing them enough to figure it out, yet.) Maybe i'll have better luck now, then I did after working intervals for a while. Considering I've not played my arrangement in a while I have to relearn it again..... I like reverbing without using effects anyway. It relaxes me. The song keeps me aware of(?) I guess it's "the pocket?" Since i'm playing the reverb bits and keeping awareness of the beat *ALWAYS*  to keep the feel. I'm sure working out the melody B if I can, would be beneficial in learning.... something.. Not sure knowing what i'm doing is always necessary. It feels like something a teacher would assign to learn something.

Anyway, warm up, and attempting MT's Slopes of Blessure.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on June 16, 2020, 09:10:46 am
Love your updates, Becky, all the details and how you are thinking and feeling ... most of the time I can follow what you are talking about (alluding to my own level of knowledge, not the clarity of your writing).

All I can say now, is I do look forward to another recording from you.  They are always so great to listen to.

Take care, keep moving onwards
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on June 22, 2020, 04:41:42 am
Been working on my flat picking to play Two Djinn, my song request from MT... It feels like i'm never going to get used to using a pick. Getting better at it though. By far it's still strumming that kills me. Using a pick I found I can use a very small movement (mostly finger movement) but I have to be super conscious of not moving that arm. I did try fingerpicking it. 100% easier for me but doesn't sound like using a pick. I'm going to get it.

I tried singing along. Oh my god. I tried just singing it without playing. Again, oh my god. In my head I have Bobby singing beautifully. I've been trying to imitate singers with melody lines on guitar and uke for awhile. My instruments play in tune. My voice is like wtf?! I hear the note clearly in my head my voice doesn't cooperate. I actually surprised myself at how far off my voice is lmao! I was seriously considering seeing if I could find a good free autotune, except i'm so freaking awful trying to hit some notes autotune wouldn't even have a chance!! (Plus I really hate that fake robot sound, so I'd drive myself crazy trying to make it not make that noise.) Autotune only sounds awesome when the person can sing amazingly in the first place, not when it's trying to perform a miracle. Sigh. The only bonus is I have very distinct notes I REALLY know I should work on practicing, lol!

Anyway still going better than I expected. I still am quite horrible but i'm getting there!

Here's the original song if anyone hasn't heard it and reads this. I'm GOING TO get this down! I'm going to sing it too, but can't guarantee any kind of quality with voice lol. My friend loves it when I sing with him, because he's all about vocals. I bury my voice under his, and the instruments and I feel much more comfortable singing with my instrument.





Been playing The Rainbow Connection on guitalele from Rockclass101. As I was playing through it I realized how far i've come changing the high g songs to low G. I realize it's not very impressive, but learning to do it step by baby step was an adventure that Andrew put up with from me.

I've been roasting. It's been over 100 degrees in the house, i'm semi-ill too so haven't attempted to pull out the recording gear. I'll just irritate myself. Weather should be cooler soon.

Oh! My nephew is letting me borrow an amp. Not sure when i'll get it.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on June 22, 2020, 08:13:56 am
Keep at it, Becky, sure you'll prevail with both the playing and the singing.  Sure it is not as "wtf" as you say  ;D  Hope you fully recover soon.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on June 22, 2020, 01:24:22 pm
Lol ty David, but in certain parts it turns into a pretty wobbly horrid nightmare trying to hit some notes. I stopped trying to sing and stopped listening to music pretty much when I lost faith in humanity back in 1995. I wasn't good at singing back then either but it wasn't THIS bad. Gotta love getting old.

Got the intro down pretty well tonight! I wasn't plugged in, so tweaking will be needed later, but I think I got Bobby's squeaky hits on the intro down pretty stinkin' well this practice!! I'm super happy with tonight's progress. I'm getting the first two chords mostly in time after the intro, but i'm fingering it a bit different. Got more written down from the lesson. I'm up to the C#minor in the lesson. (I should have done that all first, but i'm way too excited about playing this.)

I was so happy, I walked to 7-11 around 3:30am singing loudly because I was the only person out there and awake before I thought about people probably having their windows open in the heat and it was dead silent outside with absolutely no traffic and no other noise except a few bullfrogs! ROFLMAO!!!!!

Bonus!: Weighed myself and i'm down to 127lbs. 💖 (If I get down to my high school weight I can probably fit into my old dress I still have lol!) It would be kind of cool to record in it just because it made it to a Dead concert and I still have it. 😄

Anyway, heck yeah!! Haven't been this genuinely happy for years. Forgot how it felt. Wish it would last past certain people waking up and making sure I stop feeling this way! Enjoying probably the last hour of it while I can!!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on June 24, 2020, 06:30:09 am
I was right about the other day. It got really we after having a great night. My friend was drinking. He invited me over. Against my good judgement I went. I don't really like being around really drunk people. If i'm not drinking, it's hard for me to get into the same vibe. But i've now had two musical breakthroughs that have happened while taking in performances by people who had too much. Alcohol amplifies "going there". That state where you are the music you're trying to make.

I was able to identify "musician defence mechanisms" My friend demonstrated 3.

 "Fake it till you make it." He didn't study lead but he knows chords and intervals, and is good at rhythm. He was hanging out in the chords to fill up space. It worked to keep the song going.

Lol, here's some Adam Neely, in my case, with his "repetition legitimizes" meme thing. Again it worked. If he made a mistake, he made sure to own it and make it a continued part of the song.

There was another thing I can't remember now, which sucks. I should have documented it.

Both the theory exercises MT put out are fun to me. The minor scale variations one reinforces the walkdown movement I went crazy learning for the St Elsewhere Theme. I'm still working on figuring that out, and fleshing it out to be how I want. I'm still working on it in ukulele and trying to figure out how to add the low A and D strings kind of half -(I probably shouldn't swear.)

Worked on voice leading more with pedal tone? strings. Mostly was working on bass movement while keeping a pattern steady with the treble. Changed the treble pattern every other bar, to alternate between two patterns. Had main focus moving a one note melody around in the bass strings. Made up a 3 chord progression based on the melody notes I was 'singing'. It was tricky. Really fun though. I've been experimenting with this for awhile in disjointed practice. Put together a bunch of pieces.

The combination of analyzing my friend's performance helped a few more cogs click with songwriting and structure.

Working on Two Djinn still. Going to be working on that a while because of flat picking. (Speaking of which i'm down to my last pick again.... Just lost another... Freaking stupid things!)

Other than that, I probably should try to work 1 minute of something I hate doing into practice. I'm not going to stress over it. If I do, I avoid playing. There's still plenty to work on.


Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on June 24, 2020, 07:25:10 am
I do like the blend of life and learning you cook up for your RC updates Becky. Sounds like you are exploring and progressing.  Dare I say, eagerly await hearing you play again ...
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on June 27, 2020, 04:54:42 am
David the computer's updating right now. I'll record Steady Thumb but i'm rusty so not the performance I had planned for the thread. I'm not worrying about my noise issues today. I still have issues with my left sinus and ear going on. I'll get something up. Nothing impressive has happened with my playing though. I've just been exploring. Had some mini breakthroughs where more pieces of the puzzle are fitting together with how stuff works.

Edited to add: I had trouble posting, my friend just randomly dropped by and gave me a mikes hard lemonade. So that should help me not care and just post something hopefully lol. Been a while since I had alcohol. I'm pretty buzzed off this one so far and i'm only half done. Let's see if I can play buzzed. Why not.

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on June 27, 2020, 08:10:26 am
Edited to add: I had trouble posting, my friend just randomly dropped by and gave me a mikes hard lemonade. So that should help me not care and just post something hopefully lol. Been a while since I had alcohol. I'm pretty buzzed off this one so far and i'm only half done. Let's see if I can play buzzed. Why not.
I know that feeling well, I’ve just come off all the meds for my Fibro and had my first few drinks for a long long while, oh the bliss of an ice cold beer (tube?). Strange feeling isn’t it 😂 p.s. love that term Buzzed 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on June 27, 2020, 01:24:12 pm
Just to keep going, to keep learning, practising is something Becky.  Consider how many people start and fall away.

And as much as I want to hear you play again, make a recording when you are ready, of whatever you feel happy to share (noting that for us here in the Community, I think we'd always wish we could have played whatever we post better  :o )
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on June 28, 2020, 09:56:22 am
I recorded trying to jam to backing tracks... Except the backing tracks were youtube backing tracks, and I have no idea how to record into the DAW from youtube so it's fairly worthless sounding one sided.

I wasn't really using a scale shape most of the time because I haven't done much of any, except one position of major, a natural minor position, and a blues/ pentatonic shape. I was mainly hitting stuff that sounded fine though. I can't do anything long, fast. I just pulled off some trills, slides etc. It made for some okay newbie licks/fills? to the melody line I was playing. Again I was mainly playing what the vocalist would probably be doing... Not sure what i'm missing here, but I still don't have anything going on that i'm happy with particularly. I'm getting better at figuring out "vocals" though without lyrics... Considering I don't sing...

I suck at using the high e and b string... Go me. :/ The rest I can pull off stuff that sounds okay-ish considering I don't get to work with backing tracks much since I have to play through the computer.

Worked on Two Djinn, Dust in the Wind, and memorizing fretboard notes.

I'm going to work on the ear training app and do some Quizlet flash card match games on fretboard notes before I sleep. My back is still killing me, it's freaking hot and humid in the house at 3:30 am, and I can't sleep... Outside is super buggy, or i'd just sit out there. Regardless, bleh.

David- Congrats on being able to grab a pint. I wasn't aware "buzz" wasn't universal! Even our "drink responsibly" commercials use the term. 😁 I enjoyed being kind of drunk, but alcohol works to make me not inspired, and not want to play. I'd rather smoke a little weed personally. The buzz is lighter, I stay inspired, and it doesn't last seemingly, FOREVER, like alcohol does on me. Just personal preference and how i'm effected by the two things.

Anyway going to hit Justin's ear trainer, and Quizlet and hopefully sleep. 👍
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: tobyjenner on June 28, 2020, 10:14:58 am
Becky

You can convert Youtube to mp3 and then load the track into your DAW. I use this converter from
dvdvideosoft.com

https://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-YouTube-to-MP3-Converter.htm

All you need to do is drag or copy the Youtube url into the application and hit the convert button. You can also select other audio file types if you prefer.

At one time their download and conversion apps all used to come in the Free Studio bundle but they have hived them off into different app over the last few years. But I just had a quick look and the "bundled" software is still available

https://www.dvdvideosoft.com/free-dvd-video-software.htm

Great for converting mkv videos to mp4 or avi so they can be viewed on a not so smart TV.

Hope that helps

Cheers

Toby
 8)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on June 28, 2020, 10:59:39 pm
Toby- You rock! Thank you!

I downloaded free studio accidentally on my tablet, lol. Lots of good it will do me there! 😂 Got my mind together and sent a link to my email. I'll install all that and see if i'm smart enough to work it tonight. Looks like it has video stuff in it too.

I only have the Zgame Visualizer in FL Studio... Which is pretty freaking awesome, but kind of boring when you don't have something driving it to do it's movement thing... (Ahh, when I learn how to make a song in my DAW... *wistful stare into the distance*)

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: tobyjenner on June 28, 2020, 11:15:07 pm

Becky

Give me a shout if you need any guidance as I've been using it for years and eventually bought premium about 18 months ago. Its is fairly intuitive but there are lots of options. My wife has health issues and has to rest a lot so downloading TV series is a must. Having a tool that converts some formats so I can load them to an external drive that plugs into our TVs usb port is a god send. And for me video to mp3 or yt to mp3 is also a bonus.

Cheers

Toby
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on June 30, 2020, 09:09:17 pm
Toby- I got rid of Free Studio. When it told me I reached my download limit for the day after not successfully downloading anything. (I stopped the download once after a few hours? It nwver completed.) It said it would go slow, but seriously... I got mp3's on dialup faster back in the day, lol.

It pointed me in the right direction though. I found a website that converts videos to mp3's in seconds after a disclaimer not to do it to copyright stuff. Then I just drag it and drop it in a track and set the track number in the sampler. 👍

Playing around with it now :)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 03, 2020, 07:15:34 pm
Haven't done much formal practice still. Met a guy through my friend who says he's worked professionally in sound. He plays guitar and sings great and he's nice from what i've seen. However he's going through horrible circumstances currently. I am not about to ask him for any help. I wish I could. I can't even try to jam with them. I got shut down immediately before I could try to play anything, with no hope of trying to jam under them, or even learn anything from him, both times I was invited in. I'd like to try again if I get the chance before he goes back. I wish his circumstances would improve though. I went through that recently too. It's awful and there's nothing I can do for him.

Showed my friend the bass movement thing. He didn't seem impressed particularly, there was really loud background noise though. It could've been that. I'm going to record it anyway. It was kind of a breakthrough for me.

I'm having more issues with recording. The backing track overpowers my guitar on playback even with the track turned way down. I tried cloning more guitar tracks. I don't think they were playing for some reason? the added tracks should have boosted the guitar volume. Again, everything sounds okay, like I set things up, while i'm actually recording. I'm not doing something correctly setting things up, obviously. I just have no idea what i'm doing wrong setting up the project.

My friend's daughter wants to quit violin. She says she isn't liking the practice and how hard it is. It wasn't making her happy. I asked her if she remembers what made her want to do music to begin with, and what it is that she loves while playing it. Music calms her down. (I get that. I get away from thinking about everything life is throwing my way and go there.) She loves theatre. She got very passionate when she started talking about theatre. She said she likes singing, and likes the teacher for chorus in school. I suggested she do what she loves. Singing should help her in every aspect of music no matter what she chooses to do later. So will theatre. I think the acting is great. I wanted to try a workshop downtown Chicago. They have really great troops downtown. I never got to even see the play she was in, in school, because of the pandemic. :( She's going through a lot emotionally, early teen+ stress at home. She needs to do something that brings her up to the animated, excited, passion I heard in her voice and saw, while she was telling me about Hamilton and her teacher, who is a taskmaster for music because HE'S passionate about singing....

Other than that, and multiple people tripping out over my shoulders asking "What IS that?!" (I don't think wearing just a tank top is a good idea for me in public anymore.) Life is just giving me the bird over the one thing that's keeping me happy, thank you "sound guy" for bringing something to my attention I wasn't aware of. If I can get that taken care of I might be a little happier. 💖
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on July 04, 2020, 05:04:11 am
 Becky, you are a gem!!! I just love your narrative!!!
I’m going through withdrawal from the last one of my Fibro meds at the moment and it’s no fun but you have just made me laugh so loud my Mrs came running in and asked what all of the commotion was about 😂😂😂
Don’t let anything get you down, remember you can and you will - when you’ve learned how. Forget about leaps and bounds, Mr Snail still gets there! Keep plugging away at it and all will be good!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 05, 2020, 02:23:54 am
Darrell you're awesome! lol. Tell the Mrs. Sorry!!!!! From me. 😉 Glad I could cheer you up though. 💖 Withdrawal is no fun. Hope you get back to feeling normal soon. 💖
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I couldn't sleep last night so I eventually sat outside with my unplugged electric and was trying to figure out parts of songs until like 3 or 4 am.

Because i'm insane, and i've been relatively successful with the theme from St Elsewhere by David Grusin I was trying to play as much of this as I could by ear along with the recording. I was actually excited over being able to get at least the basics of a bunch of non chord parts. I am getting a lot better going right to notes on my fretboard too!!! I make mistakes but i'm within a half or a whole step 80-90% of the time on most notes I go after. When I nail notes cold without thinking and just go to it, it feels awesome! I was doing great last night imo. I felt like yelling a version of "heck yeah" if I REALLY wanted to tick off my neighbors even more. I intended not to bother anyone, but the tablet was pretty loud... I realized when windows started closing lol. Oops, Sorry people. I thought I was safe acting like an idiot unseen. (and yes, I was was standing out there really getting into the groove, trying to play jazz in the middle of the night. LOL!) I had fun though. I don't normally make noise anyway. I should get a pass every once in awhile.





Because of where it was on the fretboard, a mistake led to the riff to No Rain (I forgot who did it offhand.. The tap dancing bee girl video.) Then I worked on Two Djinn more as a "what do I remember" exercise because it's difficult for me with the strumming. I got sucked back into Wes Bound because it's awesome, and I ended up seeing how far I could get with No Rain because it's actually really fun to play. (One finger wonder melodies still btw, when I say i'm figuring something out... but I do add embellishment and slides to try to match the recording if i'm close to what's playing. Definitely recognizable as the song bits even if it isn't perfect. I still don't know enough, or can hear well enough yet, to get things fuller and "correct." But still, yea!

I think I figured out what went wrong in FL Studio. I was mucking with settings when I had the Tiny Terror noise problem. I checked trouble shooting stuff online and I think I know what's wrong. I'll test it soon tonight. I have my fingers crossed because it's SO frustrating.

With luck i'll have have something recorded finally.



Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on July 05, 2020, 06:31:29 am
Hey Becky, thanks for your good wishes! Mrs sends hugs for making me laugh, it’s good for me, but not when I’m drinking tea or coffee 😂
Wesbound and Lee Ritenour are ace, he’s on my Spotify list now! I guess that track was influenced by Wes Montgomery, another of my jazz favourites. If your interested look Sandra Sherman Guitarversum on YouTube, her tuition vids are ace!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on July 05, 2020, 02:37:45 pm
Just a quick note to say:

I'm still here, reading every word, Becky.  I smile, cry and cheer every step of the way with you.

Chicago ... I spent a couple of days in Chicago many, many years ago after a business trip, visiting a cousin. We did a comedy club and a baseball game at Wrigley Field.  Pity the sporting event was the Cubs rather than the Bulls.  And greater pity that my cousin never took me to the part of Town where the blues clubs are ... that would've been better than comedy and baseball (or basketball).

Hope you come right with the DAW ... can't help with FL Studio as a Reaper man.  Cause I'm looking forward to hearing you play again, when the kinks are ironed out.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 06, 2020, 05:51:05 am
I fixed it!

This is El Sucko, because I don't normally use backing tracks, but it's successful in putting a backing track with something i'm recording. I'd like to think I could do better if I gave it another shot.... Learning scales would help too. I was just thinking vaguely major and minor, and found some interesting results by messing around with moving 3nps, notes up and down up there. Need to double check that i'm not crazy, and what I found works before I ask about it.

It's painful to listen to btw you've been warned, but it's proof it's fixed. I'd suggest fast forwarding to 2:30 or so if anyone subjects themselves. It took a bit to get going with the backing track. Picked a slow Jazz just to see what happened.

https://soundcloud.com/user-468191094/oppsriddenimprovtest
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on July 06, 2020, 06:26:38 am
Wow, I really enjoyed this, I think that you’ve not got enough juice on your improvisation over the backing track. Also I really liked the chords used, this needs lyrics and a voice - it would make a great collaboration for someone like Lynne Redrhodie
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 06, 2020, 09:36:26 am
Thank you for being kind... but it's not staying ;) I'm just thrilled it works now. No screeching noise, no sudden surprise changes between recording and playback...

The backing track was the first jazz one in the list of "slow backing tracks" for me, but here's the track if you want to mess with it too: (I didn't bother with giving it credit because it was going away)



Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on July 06, 2020, 09:39:21 am
Bravo on sorting you DAW issues.

The backing sounded good and like Darrell said, I think the backing level needs to be pulled down and your play lifted up. From what I could hear, the notes had a sweet tone, but it was so buried by the backing that I really can't appreciate it.

So please pretty please, adjust the levels in the production and re-share it.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 06, 2020, 11:08:30 pm
Lol, I can give it another go tonight. Seeing what kind of melody I can come up with on the fly is pretty fun and the basic track is already set up.

It was more just screwing around and yelling "Finally!!!!!!"

I planned on going back on the reservation today with something structured, rather than just doing whatever I felt like doing. I

So it will be after that.




Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: CT on July 07, 2020, 12:26:31 am
Hi TS, sounded pretty nice, but as previously stated your lead guitar was a bit low in the mix. Really nice backing track selection too, Dm is a great key to jam to. I had a doink around with that backing track for a few minutes on acoustic, there's a real sweet spot on the G string around the 12th fret -- which is outlined very well in the fret board chart of the backing track. If you explore the scale tones on that G string, you'll be having more fun than just a little. You may even develop a riff or melody up there. :)   
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 08, 2020, 04:27:21 am
Yeah, I redid the track. I had about 4-5 takes done. There were some really nice bits in each of them I liked.

I woke up today and loaded the project and the recorded tracks were empty of waveforms. So I said wtf and re-recorded another few takes figuring I'm more familiar with it, not a huge deal... (I saved it btw, each take.) Closed the project and they're all straight lines again.

It has 100 steps to go back in undo. I hope they're there. I can't figure out how to look in the undo menu, but i'm done for now.

The new takes were better then my first shot. (Above) I'm way to stressed out to fight with this anymore.

CT- Yeah, I start at 12. Also a good spot by 22 for treble and down by 5? for bass. I was trying to do call and response phrasing in a couple takes. (Stll one finger wonder)

I actually learned when to switch pickup positions today with this, so that was pretty invaluable.

But wtf happened to my tracks..... It says it's loading .wav files when I open it.

I just opened my email and got my BBC Symphony Orchestra from Spitfire Audio! There's one good bonus. It sounds great from the review of it someone made. I got it by going down the free road by doing their questionnaire, so I had to wait however many weeks for it.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on July 08, 2020, 06:56:58 am
Becky,

I don't know the DAW you use, but it may work if you use your file-explorer to find the folder where the project is saved, which, in my case, is also where the .wav files are saved after recording. And if the tracks are empty, goodness knows why, maybe you will find the inidividual recorded wav files in the folder.

BBC Symphony Orchestra sounds interesting. And a free route.  Sounds like a route I should explore myself.

Hope you find the missing files ...
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 08, 2020, 09:40:23 pm
I got the BBC Orchestra Discover installed. It sounds really really good! 💖 I have nothing to compare it to other than the stuff that came with my DAW, and the difference in quality between the samples is night and day. (Thanks Spitfire!!)

The horns, oh my god. 💖 One of the horn notes specifically captures that change in breath and pressure between registers. (?..) I don't know what it is, I can just hear it, and it's beautiful.





Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 10, 2020, 05:17:30 am
Whatever happens in upload to soundcloud boosts volume. I panned the garbage im playing right. If it's too quiet I don't know what to say. It's a new one. I can't get the other wav files to show up. But yeah another attempt at using that jam track over the fretboard. There's mistakes still.

https://soundcloud.com/user-468191094/jamtracktest1
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on July 10, 2020, 05:57:47 am
So I found the track, Becky, a little thing like no link won't stop me  ;)

You have a lovely tone going, follow the movement of the track, lots of sweet phrases, repeated notes, slides. Maybe could experiment with a few more pauses or notes held longer. All in all mellow and relaxing, a good vibe. Definitely a new use of the word "garbage" to me, maybe it is a Chicago thing  :P

On the mix, much better. I think you could still drop the level of the backing track more. But this time I could hear you better. Maybe keeping your track centre and panning the backing might work better?

As for SC, things do sound a little different streamed from SC compared to the wav you render from the DAW but wouldn't expect it to change the balance of the mix.

As for the missing wav files, did you try looking at your DAW's settings to figure out where the recorded files would've been stored on the file system?  It didn't sound like you inadvertently deleted them?

Lovely way to start my day, listening to your jam ... good vibes  8)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 10, 2020, 06:31:49 am
Lol thanks david, I stuck the link inside the soundcloud icons In the forum. 😂 I was like "no link won't stop me"... what? Lol oops.

The backing track is too quiet and my playing is obnoxiously loud and annoying before soundcloud gets ahold of it. It was loud enough to hear my playing in my opinion, so I posted. Ill try panning the backing track next time, or maybe doubling the guitar tracks or something.

I'm liking the noise reduction plugin inside guitar rig 5. It does a good job reducing the electrical noise. It's not gone, but I don't need to get creative with eq when I use it. I'll need to try it with the mic when I record the guitalele and uke.

Fixing the link now sorry 😂
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on July 10, 2020, 06:57:03 am
Quite intrigued by what SC did to the levels, Becky ... perplexing and annoying at the same time.

Good to hear the guitar rig sw is working well.

And no apologies needed on the link, these things happen, especially when their are buttons to embed like the SC button that just don't work  :o
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Majik on July 11, 2020, 10:54:50 am
Soundcloud will not change the relative levels of the backing track and your guitar. That's done on your PC before you upload it to Soundcloud.

I was wondering if Soundcloud normalized the audio, which would explain the volume change but, no, they don't.

If the playback in Soundcloud is a different level than the file in your DAW, that's probably the audio settings on your PC which is causing the browser to play back louder than the DAW. There may be a mixer app you can use to adjust the playback levels of different applications.

For what it's worth, I didn't think the guitar in any way overwhelmed the backing track. If anything it was a bit quiet. It certainly wasn't obnoxiously loud or annoying to me.

Cheers,

Keith
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: CT on July 11, 2020, 04:12:22 pm
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The backing track is too quiet and my playing is obnoxiously loud and annoying before soundcloud gets ahold of it.
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Hard to say for sure exactly what Soundcloud does with uploaded files, but I assume they apply a bit of compression. I found saving and uploading uncompressed files in .aiff format to be truer to my original track. That's purely my opinion using my ears. 
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 12, 2020, 01:48:35 am
I'll give that a shot CT, thank you. I've only tried wav and mp3. I usually export in mp3 because wav can get a bit big.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on July 12, 2020, 07:24:14 am
I'll give that a shot CT, thank you. I've only tried wav and mp3. I usually export in mp3 because wav can get a bit big.

Becky, I'd suggest that uploading mp3 to SC should be avoided, unless you have bandwidth constraints. mp3 is compressed (file size not musical fx :) ) or a "lossy" format and when you stream from SC, there is further compression and loss. But as far as I understand from my research SC doesn't do any soundlevel normalisation, as YT, Spotify, etc. do.

Maybe to reduce the size of a wav file, which is lossless, you can consider the bit-depth used to render the file, typically (I think) 16 or 20 and the sample rate, 44100 or higher. I use 16 bit and 44100 and results seem fine; though you will find arguments out there advocating strongly for higher values.  I can't actually comment, to do so is beyond my most basic grasp.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Majik on July 12, 2020, 07:41:58 am


Becky, I'd suggest that uploading mp3 to SC should be avoided, unless you have bandwidth constraints. mp3 is compressed (file size not musical fx :) ) or a "lossy" format and when you stream from SC, there is further compression and loss. But as far as I understand from my research SC doesn't do any soundlevel normalisation, as YT, Spotify, etc. do.

Maybe to reduce the size of a wav file, which is lossless, you can consider the bit-depth used to render the file, typically (I think) 16 or 20 and the sample rate, 44100 or higher. I use 16 bit and 44100 and results seem fine; though you will find arguments out there advocating strongly for higher values.  I can't actually comment, to do so is beyond my most basic grasp.

Spot on David.

As I understand it, SC will re-render to AAC 256. This is best done from a lossless format like WAV or FLAC.

One consideration: the way AAC and MP3 encoders work means that it is possible for the encoder to slightly increase the level of some samples. This can result in a sort of clipping distortion. So it is best to make sure your peaks are below 0dBFS. Normalising to -3dB or lower is recommended.

Note this is any time you convert lossless to MP3 or AAC, including in the DAW.

Cheers,

Keith

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Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 15, 2020, 08:51:21 am
Quick update. Other than the breakthrough on the fretboard I was messing with a bunch of stuff over the past few days.

I explored pickup positions and determined it's the same as playing in the different places on acoustic... But with a switch, and i'm not sure if picking around over different pickups matters too yet. I know people probably are like duh. but I didn't connect the lows mids and highs to the pickup position switch. (Switching the thing mid song takes skill I lack. lol)

Started learning Is There Anybody Out There. (MT posted) I'm up to the first walk down spot, and ironing that out, because i'm not sure if i'm playing it right.... I think I might have the song down in a day or two though. (playing it all the way through, not at tempo and whatnot.) I really wanted to learn this song, back when I heard The Wall.. It's pretty satisfying to play after all this time.

Played more with Two Djinn, and I started doing Desparado on guitar. It's SUPER FUN. (Because who doesn't want to make his voice in that song an epic guitar solo... Except in my case I'm using a lot of my ability to "make believe" It's epic... It feels epic to play anyway.) I think I did a pretty good job figuring out most of it by ear. It has tricky parts in my "brown note" area of hearing... I don't know the words as well as I thought I did lol. I have a big old blinking neon sign saying I forgot words on this song. Its kind of important to know the lyrics cold before making them a solo lol. (But man it's fun to play, and was fun to see how much I could get.)

Overall i've had a good few days. I ruined my calluses again sweating in gloves, then I guess I didn't wait long enough for my skin to harden again.. I tore up my fingertips yesterday and have sore fingers today.

David and Keith thank you. I'll check all that before exporting.. No guarantees I won't be a moron, but i'll check.


Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on July 15, 2020, 05:16:49 pm
Sounds like you are having fun, Becky ... keep at it, keep learning, and really learning something new doesn't imply that one was a moron before one had learned it. You probably just being self-deprecating in a light-hearted, bantering way and I'm over-reacting but I am just overly sensitive to such thinks ... ask Lynn aka Redhodie ;D
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Majik on July 15, 2020, 05:23:19 pm
Exactly David. I count myself as reasonably technical, but I didn't realize some of this stuff until I had read a few books and articles on the subject, and done an audio engineering course.

Some of it is really obvious, but only when you know the answer!

Cheers,

Keith

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 20, 2020, 01:15:33 am
Sigh. Another "too long to read" update. Had an interesting (for me) development though in there.

Timing has been a huge issue for me. I know it, and I try to work on it, but because of my completely insane aversion to having that constant freaking beeping, or generally out of place noise, making me tense and pissed off, rather than being able to focus on what i'm doing, or supposed to be doing... I'm doing what I can with timing though.

I've mentioned the hihat metronome sound on FL is the least offensive to me before... Like a million times.. But since i'd been able to hook up to the computer more for practice I ambushed myself randomly in the past couple practices to work specifically with time. If I plan it, I really seriously do avoid my instruments completely, and unconsciously.

Metronome work fixed issues I was having with the first walkdown in Anybody Out There, rather stupidly fast that I was having. I was rushing and missing an entire beat.

Biggest issue is I suck still, sorry David, but it's true lol. (I can't wait to hit whatever stage in learning where I think i'm good, but i'm not... That teachers talk about everyone going through in videos and websites... Unless it's a 1x shot and I blew it on recorder in kindergarten or whatever... That's a depressing thought.

But anyway, since the: play something, move up the fretboard and do something completely different, then going back to the original thing, -something I haven't done much as a movement really, except in my version of X-Files, -which doesn't count, because that's on uke. Plus I'd been playing/practicing A.O.T. close to tempo which is like what? 60bpm? I have a real hard time at 40 because slowing down the intro..... Man, 40bpm is hard to lock into.

I swapped playing the hihat click to hit on the second beat though, which put the hat sound in a really great place while I played. I'm going to try it with the evil beeping metronome, and see if just changing where the stupid annoying beep happens drives me less crazy. Locking in with the click on 2 instead of 1, tripped me out honestly. My face must have been priceless at the moment I locked in ad played through the first time. It made the click more of something happening outside what I was doing. It became something just sitting there in the "middle," keeping me in time - like a foot stomp, instead of a freaking metronome.

That makes no sense, I have no idea how to explain it. The downside is it's really hard for me to lock into a click on 2 to begin with. Every fiber of my being wants to hit beat 1 on the click. I was way more successful staying in time the whole way through putting it on beat 2, regardless. It's so stupid, because seriously, why?! Maybe it's just the song? Is it letting my head just disconnect from the annoying as heck constant noise by sticking it on 2?? It doesn't change how i'm playing A.O.T, other than where the hihat is falling while I play... So why...

I really tick myself off though. It's the same garbage I dealt with from freaking kindergarten to high school. I can study my butt off learning certain things and it doesn't make a bit of difference in the end. Go me.. It really sucks when my ability to learn garbage affects stuff I care about and really want to learn. It is, what it is, though. Knowing that doesn't piss me off any less though.

From one of Justin's lesson 11 lefty vids he just released, he made me realize I really have to just hang out with the electric more seriously.

I need to get my string spacing default position on electric way more under control. I wasn't thinking it was a huge problem until Anybody Out There. Listening back right after a couple practices made me realize I was crashing and burning primarily after missing strings and trying to save it really fast. Even though the difference in string spacing is tiny, that bit of "small" is making a huge difference!! It's making me flail around trying to not loose my place in the song while reflexively trying to hit the missed string, and my hand is floating in the wrong place by the time I DO hit the string. Everything goes to hell in a hand basket quickly though.

Stress is making me on edge. Relaxed practice, where i'm able to shut off stress is way, way more productive. If I can't shut it mostly off, my whole mindset just makes practice pretty worthless. I've known this awhile, it's just rearing it's head at the moment reminding me I need to chill before I can get the most out of what i'm doing. My fingers are stiff too recently from overworking them recently doing stuff, which causes a whole new dimension of "fun."

My favorite FL Studio Channel (can't think of the name offhand atm.😕 That's awful...) just put out an "exporting" video explaining the different settings too. Which helped more with at least those issues. As well as the help from Keith and David.👍 I had changed settings. Seeing it in my actual DAW helps a lot though, since he went through all the setting sections I have available.

Planning on doing more practice tonight after i'm done with stuff.

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: glpguitar on July 20, 2020, 01:28:44 am
I will have to read the whole thread tomorrow but just wanted to say that I listened to your JamTracktest1 recording on Soundcloud. The solo for the most part is actually very musical and has nice fitting (coherent might the word?) vibe with the backing track. Enjoyed it very much!

Will read the full thread tomorrow and give a proper reply!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on July 20, 2020, 06:02:57 pm
Keep at it, Becky.

I remember the first time I recorded two takes of the same play through, attempting to play to a metronome. I listened back to the two takes together and it was an listenable sloppy mess. A couple of years on and I still have takes that are completely messed up but if I play through without making a mega mistake, then the good takes played together now sound more like double-tracking ...
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on July 30, 2020, 06:54:24 pm
I've been working on the G major scale positions the past week or so. I'm on position 5 tonight. I can connect the positions diagonally. I can mess around with one finger wonder melodies in them. I haven't been playing the caged chord shape in each scale position. I grabbed a diagram off a search that had 5 positions with G notes highlighted, figured out a fingering, double checked against Justin's videos for tips and tricks and if I was doing it right, then did another the next day if I had it down. Sometimes 2 days... Why can't I learn my notes? Frigging hell... WHY!

I plan on looking into the caged G chord shapes though when I have the scale shapes memorized. Been touching on caged and the uke version for a while.

Ideally I plan on posting something to gauge progress by the end of the month. I've worked successfully on getting my recordings louder. I just dumped some plugins into both guitar tracks and instantly had more volume then I needed.

Still working on my picking skills for Two Djinn. It's freaking difficult to play, I'm taking it slow. I need a lot of techniques I haven't worked on till the song.

I still don't have Anybody Out There to a point I don't make mistakes. (Nothing new there. I haven't played anything yet without mistakes) I Might end up posting that progress tomorrow. I need to revisit Steady Thumb Blues and get that recorded eventually too.

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: glpguitar on July 30, 2020, 10:42:04 pm
Sorry it took me longer than promised, some work came in and had to change focus for a bit.

Now after I read the whole thread and listened to all the tracks you posted (except the one that is deleted), few observations first:
- as others have said, I love your narrative. It is a great example of what a road case can be. Because at the end of the day, everything combined affects the process of making art. So overall, a very interested read.
- your research approach is great! Keep doing what you're doing, you'll learn loads on the way. About guitar, uke, DAW, music and everything else you are interested in! And never lose this knowledge-seeking approach!
- after a few months of playing, your progress is great!

Now to a few quotes:
Got $20 and bought a pre-roasted chicken, microwavable mashed potatoes, a packet of gravey mix, and a bottle of strawberry Nesquick. I can finally eat something other than Ramen Noodles! Looking forward to that as soon as it cools down a bit. Shouldn't have wasted money on the bottle of Nesquick but it was so good.
Based on the fact that you also like some heavier stuff, I will assume you got to metal via rock and that you have at least heard of Guns N' Roses. Their bassist lived on his personal ramen recipe for a few months. I do not have his autobiography with me at the moment but when I have a chance, I'll take a photo from his book. It's a great read.

I got the BBC Orchestra Discover installed. It sounds really really good! 💖 I have nothing to compare it to other than the stuff that came with my DAW, and the difference in quality between the samples is night and day. (Thanks Spitfire!!)

The horns, oh my god. 💖 One of the horn notes specifically captures that change in breath and pressure between registers. (?..) I don't know what it is, I can just hear it, and it's beautiful.
Spitfire really nailed it this time. And the amount of free stuff they give away! I still cannot believe that Discover is only 250MB in size (or something in this range) and it has all those amazing samples.

Looking forward to your next track, whether it's Steady Thumb Blues or something new, I am sure we'll all enjoy it!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on August 06, 2020, 02:20:29 am
I have been stressed out and busy.

I got a take of Anybody Out There recorded. I tried to clean up the track and hosed it with the de-noise tool. LOL!

I think i'm just going to upload with the noise for now.

I need more practice, but i'm pretty happy with how the song is coming along.

https://soundcloud.com/user-468191094/aot1/s-8fMi9viumzw

Since the song has some orchestra instruments, ideally, i'd like to try fleshing this out with the BBC Orchestra after i'm more comfortable with it, since there isn't too much going on overall. I think I can handle something anyway. I'm done practicing it as a main thing though. It's something I just have to just play daily so it doesn't disappear, and I keep getting smoother at.

The stretch on guitar is bigger and involves a chord change in the Am part in the beginning. The string and note control on electric is also a lot harder because it's different than the guitalele. It does sound okay on electric though. I was playing it through the rev-plate plugin for their tube.

Just have to add: Yep, found out I like an old amp. Old amps cost a freaking fortune, if they can even be found. Chalking it up on the "yeah frigging right" board. I'll be sticking with VST effects.

GlpGuitar - i'll get to your comment.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on August 06, 2020, 06:23:01 am
Heart always beats a little faster when I see a new post from yuor RC, Becky ... will this be the day? The day when you post a new recording.  And today was one of those happy days  ;D

While not a huge Pink Floyd listener, I know this song which is a beautiful piece. And you've delivered a fine rendition.

Of course you know and I heard one or two not-quite-as-smooth as the rest moments, but that I'd guess is as much recording-red-light-syndrome ... the red light being on seems to inject some fumbles into even some of the most proficient players' here performances (me being far from among the most proficient, I never deliver my best performances when the camera is rolling) ... and maybe just needing more practice.

Oh and don't know it well enough to know if there were incorrect notes or timing.

But the tone, the feeling ... loved it. I think you did really well.

And I'd have to say what I have said to a couple of other folk who post their recordings in their RC. I really encourage you to post this up in the AVOYP area. It is ever so worth listening to and more of the members will listen when it is posted there, which is a good thing for all.  And you will pick up more encouragement and feedback.

Now the noise. I have a feeling but no hard recollections, that we have spoken about this before. So apologies for my poor memory ...

How did you make the recording, the whole chain, settings, any other details?

Without knowing that I would think one can produce a less noiser recording than you have here. Though it reminded me of listening to vinyl LPs that were borrowed from the local record library back in the day (a long way back :) )

Maybe you should record Steady Thumb Blues on a steel string acoustic (if you have one, I forget) with that noise ... will give it an authentic Robert Johnson early 1900s vibe  ;D

But as I say, with modern gear, I would think you can get better results and maybe there some pointers experienced folk (not necessarily inexperienced me) can give to improve your recording process.

Otherwise I am well, hope you are well.

Oh and after reading your comments about BBC Orchestra, I went and found the questionnaire, completed it, and look forward to receiving the link in due course to add this library to my set of digital instruments.

Take care, keep playing and sharing ...
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on August 06, 2020, 09:13:41 am
I would like to add to DP's well done on the recording. This is one of my favourite go to pieces to loosen up my fingers.

Instead of AVOYP, can you post it up in this challenge area: https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=17179.0

And enjoy the others over there too.
:)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: glpguitar on August 07, 2020, 12:28:35 am
As a big Pink Floyd fan, I really enjoyed that! Well done!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Majik on August 07, 2020, 08:44:17 am
That was really nice. Well done Becky.

Cheers,

Keith
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: sairfingers on August 07, 2020, 02:55:15 pm
Well done Becky, that was well played. Yes as Richard says, move it over to the ‘challenge thread’ otherwise your RC thread will be filled up with comments and won’t be so easy to read as a ‘diary’.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on August 10, 2020, 05:18:51 pm
david- As for the noise on the mic, Yeah, my gear and house make for some slightly higher than 1940's record booth quality recordings lol. (Using my mic, that is...) The jam track recording isn't AS noisy on electric guitar, although the noise floor is still there, it's certainly not nearly as bad. And yes David, we discussed both of the noise issues between mic and electric guitar cable into the audio interface. If I upgrade something in the future, I was considering a Zoom recorder. That's not happening anytime soon unless the Zoom fairy comes and leaves one under my pillow while I sleep. I have what I have. It's the way it goes. Oh, and I don't have a steel string acoustic anymore. Unless I can fix the neck on my 1/4 size acoustic. The guitalele was it's replacement. It was supposed to be the Kay acoustic, but Amazon screwed me over on that. It worked out though. I don't regret the guitalele. It helped me connect the uke fretboard to the guitar fretboard.

I will record another version of Anybody Out There for the challenge thread (that I wasn't even aware of.) lol. My post was more just to prove i've been learning stuff, and trying to keep to my attempt, to post a minimum of 1 progress recording a month. (I never can tell if i'm actually getting any better, even with recordings. Unless it's my first uke attempts. Even then, my actual playing hasn't gotten much better.

Glp - Really nice comments on the road case, although I see it more as "what not to do by not practicing correctly," rather than a good example of a road case. Glad you enjoy reading it though. Didn't think anyone read these when I made mine lol. I can semi-legitimately argue I'm going through a rather long consolidation stage, but without consolidating. 😉 I technically really probably should be doing consolidation stuff, but I get distracted by shiny new things. I think it's been 2 months i've been essentially screwing around on guitar, guitalele, and ukulele. I'm learning stuff and practicing, but I haven't been doing structured anything.

I started sort of learning Sweet Home Alabama.... It's "purple" but it's a HELL of a lot easier than Two Djinn. I tuned down a half step due to a few YouTube people now, saying try it. Well I did. It might make bending whole steps a little easier? I need to practice half and whole step bends way more. I'm bad at cutting off a bend at it's peak and having it sound not like trash lol. I tuned it back to standard though.

Going to look for a different song than Sweet Home Alabama maybe. The song sounds fine, clean, but the plan was just to learn something upbeat for drunk people, who probably can't remember words to it, to sing to. Gotta think about something easy that they might all know. I don't want to really learn anything too difficult. Sweet Home Alabama isn't too bad actually.

Thank you Close2u, sairfingers, majik, glp. Not many people listen to my posts, thank god. I'll post in the challenge threads... Just wish I could get something higher quality. This recording was definitely not a challenge quality recording.

Looked up the Rex Royal archtop again, one of the guitars my mom left me. (It wasn't originally hers, she bought it for decoration and was hoping to fix it, but someone told her they were crap so it sat. I don't think they're crap..) Sadly still can't find much info on it. I have no clue what it's made of but it can't be played as-is sadly. I forgot about the crack running from the tailpiece up the middle of the top. It seems to be solid wood, not plywood from what I can see. I'm guessing it's a 1930's Kay built guitar. Not much info on them though. The internet hasn't really gotten many more pictures since I looked last.

I wish I could get it working again, the tuner buttons are decaying and has fully original crystallized buttons that feel smooshy now, the tuner gears feel good though. The nut needs a bit of work too. (Looks like bone, but it's kind of cut badly.) The necks liked to come off the Rex Royals I guess, from pictures that are out there. This one has an interesting fix. They used something to screw it down to the body after trying to reglue lol. So whoever owned it really wanted to play it, and the luthier did what they could I guess. (The neck repair seem pretty old too.)

I should take pictures of my poor dead guitars.

Other than looking for another song I recapped a few lessons here, tried MT's exercise in 6ths. (Gads! That's going to take me awhile to get comfortable with!) I practiced Anybody Out There, so I wouldn't forget it. Practiced the G major scale over the neck more so I wouldn't forget that. (Still haven't looked into the chord shapes in each. I NEED to though. Found out another one of my goal songs uses the G shape for a lick up by 12th somewhere... (Jiffy Jam. Don't judge me.)

I've come to the conclusion if the internet says: "This chord shape (or this chord,) isn't used so don't worry about it."

That's code for: "Becky better worry about learning it asap, because it's in a song she wants to play."

So yeah, I REALLY should work on caged..
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on August 11, 2020, 08:02:24 am
As always, your updates are an interesting, eclectic read, Becky, I love it.

I hope you do post up the current or a re-recording of Anybody Out There in the area Close mentioned. I think more people should hear it, as it was a good listen.

Yup, pictures of the "dead guitars" sounds like a good idea ...

Keep it going ...
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on August 12, 2020, 09:24:10 pm
Okay- Pinch harmonics and the solo make Sweet Home Alabama purple. Not like I was planning on doing a solo, but I get a little OCD about some things, and the pinch harmonics suck to do.... Well, they don't suck, I suck at doing them.

Charging the camera. I'll try to get pictures up... But not sure how to post pictures in here... I don't think linking to my Amazon photos is safe for my privacy. I'll have to see what google has.

Anyway going to snap some pictures today.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on August 13, 2020, 06:28:05 am
Becky, when I post the odd picture up in my RC, I use imgur.com. The tags to embed an image in a post don't work so I embed a link to the image, which embeds the image in the post.

Isn't it wonderful that we all suck when we start and in due course we no longer suck  ;D
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on August 14, 2020, 03:52:16 am
Lol David! Yes, good point. It's a technique I need and will take a long while to nail. Still... Bleh.

So tonight going to see how this goes:

Warm up - till complete.
1-2 min- half step bends
1-2 min- whole step bends
1-2 min- pinch harmonics
1-2 min 4 finger trill (because it's been a while and even failing it was good to work on)
1 min chord changes for a few giving me a hard time in Two Djinn still.
1x G major scale patterns across fretboard. (Not timed, just so I retain them)
Explore caged G shapes (no real set time. It depends.)
1x though Anybody out there to retain it.
10 min- Two Djinn sections
Explore shepherd tones for a bit, either on instrument or in the daw, just because its new and shiny and cool as hell. (Might wait till I'm not on the verge of a panic attack and meditate or go for a walk instead if I can't calm down.)

Came in to edit out the post about the pictures until I could upload them, but you beat me to it. I'll look at the img site... I haven't had great luck with those kind of sites in the past. I had a lot going on yesterday and today. Just now getting a chance to play/practice, but have to wait until my hands dry thoroughly. I don't want to loose my calluses again.

I don't know about other people's situations, but all the people in this house are ready to start ripping each other apart. (And there's quite a few people here)

Probably won't get those pictures until tomorrow. I want to take them outside for better light.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on August 14, 2020, 02:17:06 pm
Sounds like a well structured and thought out practice routine, Becky.  Once upon a time I thought I might write up a routine, blinked, and the notion passed out of mind  :o

I'm fortunate, live in a medium-sized (I think, though maybe some would say large, all so relative) suburban house, with a garden, with my wife and son ... so all is calm and peaceful at home.

I have not had my experience with image-upload sites.  had no hassles with imgur.  Look forward to the pictures of those guitars ...
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on September 13, 2020, 02:57:28 am
Still haven't gotten those pictures up...

A lot of garbage happened. Been stressed...

As for practice, I dropped everything when Andrew posted Evan's arrangement of Georgia On My Mind.

Since my 2 year anniversary of playing ukulele is coming up, I decided to learn it since I absolutely love the song, it seems like other than a few technical bits of Evan swag and applying the techniques in ways i'm not used to, everything in the arrangement is something i've put time into. Making the necessary changes for Low G uke to sound okay is something I usually save for easier songs but I think I can do this.

I'm stuck on theme 3 at the moment. I can't get whatever screen youtube lets you change the speed of videos anymore. Andrew teaches the bit i'm stuck on, but it isn't sounding like what Evan is doing when I try to play it. I haven't figured out why that is.. yet..... I should ask since i've been stuck for awhile... I can't tell if it's not right because of low G differences or if it's me sucking at playing, or if maybe the lesson isn't covering what he's playing exactly?? Andrew said he's teaching something more in line with his style on this one. I kind of had to laugh when he said that! My first thought was "Oh great, not only am I trying to imitate Evan singing like Ray Charles, but now I have to do low G changes and put my ear training to use trying to reinterpret the lesson in parts that were changed slightly to better fit Andrew's playstyle."

I swear, teachers.... 😂 I really hate when you guys blindside me sometimes with things I didn't think I'd need to know right away.

Because it's an Evan arrangement it's a bit high end skill level. I'm comfortable playing Andrew's level 2- 3 songs, depending on the song. Level 4 is his advanced songs. Georgia is all i've been doing, other than the Caged study. I've been using my guitalele to learn on rather than my Tiny Tenor. I haven't picked up my electric guitar. I lost my calluses again for those heavy strings. I'll work on electric and general guitar again after Georgia. I really want to get one Evan arrangement down before I loose my premium membership.

Because I fell behind schedule being stuck a week now, I'm concerned about being able to get the arrangement learned in time. However Andrew's right. Things repeat. The part i'm stuck on repeats, so once I understand what's going on it should go smoother, if not faster. There's another bit Evan does a sliding melody lick I somehow think i'll be stuck on too because I doubt it's covered in the lesson.

Anyway, I'll likely be more quiet here for a month or two while as I focus on this arrangement. I really want to get this song down. I can take imperfection, but I plan on keeping this song memorized so hopefully imperfections will eventually get ironed out. I might pop in to update, and i'll link my performance over there here when i'm done.

 



Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on September 13, 2020, 05:03:28 am
Good to hear from you Becky.

Hope you got all the garbage cleaned up.

Didn't follow all the references to Evan, Andrew, and then Ray Charles popped which nudges me to look up the song ... I expect I'll recognise it.

No matter, sure you will overcome the challenges and obstacles and be able to play it in due course ... when talking to yourself about this process I suggest throwing in liberal use of the word "yet" ... "I'm yet to play ...."

Take care, till next time ...
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on September 13, 2020, 06:36:40 pm
David, good to hear from you. I pm-ed you the video of Evan's performance. Then I woke up, and decided I should probably post it here, and my favorite video of the song at the moment.

Midnight Special live performance by Ray Charles:





Evan's chord melody ukulele arrangement of Georgia On My Mind:





Anyway, that's the arrangement i'm trying to learn. I'm pretty sure it's a song most people have probably heard quite a bit?

-------
I did successfully make bits of a "my first chord melody arrangement" to Daydream Believer (on guitalele) after being inspired by Troy doing a bass cover of it a few days ago, and the melody and Davey's voice is really fun to try to imitate because he doesn't sing a quarter step sharp like the dude from Yes, (playing a melody with exactly a quarter step bend going on constantly during certain vocal registers is quite difficult!) And most of the singers I love have something just as difficult going on.
( TJH3113 is Troy's bass channel. I recommend checking him out if people are unfamiliar, whether people play bass or not.)





Anyway that's the pool of crazy I jumped into music-wise.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on October 01, 2020, 05:17:52 am
Okay. This update won't make sense to anyone but me probably since it's mainly dealing with the arrangement and things i'm doing. You've been warned if you read on.

Been a crazy time but managed to get in some good practicing on some days. Missed a bunch of days of practice too. I'm not as far along in the arrangement as I'd hoped to be on this date with Georgia On My Mind, BUT i'm kind of further than I kind of really am.

Since I wasn't fully comfortable playing some of the things Evan was doing, I paused going farther until I really was playing it to where I was semi happy with it. The way the beginning of theme 2 was presented in the video lesson threw me off too. I needed to get a grip with "the hardest bar" because that presented rhythm didn't sound at all right stuck randomly into Evan's feel?... The different feel presented in the lesson threw me off from Evan's big time. It turns out the "hardest bar" isn't really all that hard. Figuring it out from the video kind of was hard as hell for me.

I am pretty confident I got close to what he's doing. It sounds close anyway. Because I didn't go farther, and I wanted to loop theme 2, I came up with a lick that isn't in the arrangement, but turns out it sounds good and replaces the bit I didn't learn "properly" yet, pretty darn well. (Go me) This isn't exactly new for me. I'm guilty of making a lick in the past to cover notes I needed. The only difference is, the first time on the other jazz tune that I did it on, I had absolutely no idea what I did. Now I do, and know why it works for the most part.

I subconsciously incorporated how a variation later on, sounded, with a slight variation of the lick as well. (No, btw it's not THAT lick. 😉)

I got comfortable enough to change the rhythm? of the song..... When that starts to happen and I start "singing" a song different ways, things get weird, so it was time to focus on moving forward instead of changing the song into something unrecognizable! lol! It's fun but I'm trying to meet a deadline, which might not happen at this point anyway, but i'm kind of content with that now that it's sounding pretty good-ish and i'm pretty okay with playing what I consider the solo-y bits added to the chords so far. Everything in the song pretty much is stuff I've been practicing like I said. It's just how it all comes together that's a step up from things I usually try to play.

Since Georgia only really is a melody A and B, I didn't move on till tonight. Having just started going forward again I say i'm farther along than I thought, just due to the comfort level playing the A melody and some variation to the song I made on my own. The song also incorporates stuff I was learning on guitar.

The rest, so far, after my dismal reading ability, and gimpy changes from high g to Low G, is coming along so much quicker now that i've come to terms with what's actually going on. It was one of those "OH" moments then things got smoother suddenly.

That said, this is definitely a fun song to play. I've worked on not pausing which I do. It's making me strengthen my pinky and come up with gimpy vibrato/bending for that hammer on riff/lick. I'm bad at that lick because there's no way in hell *I* can do Evan's vibrato there so I kind of bend the string to get the same-ish sound the vibrato gives. As I continue to play the song I hope it will continue to improve.

Since i'm not entering Georgia as an official challenge (that i'm aware of... Maybe it will appear, maybe it won't by the time i'm happy with the song.) I can change more bits then I'd dare to usually.

One thing I stuck to was moving down to a high g note in the A melody. I spent at least a week trying both places I could play the high g note I needed since I do Low G uke. I loose a triplet feel for a second, but gain a finger setup for the next chord hammer on pull off thing. It's working for me, and I put a LOT of thought into it based on how I play.

One thing... I noticed when I was revisiting the first video lesson I give myself "time" for a change in one spot. I'm not super concerned, but the fact remains I changed how it's being played a bit to facilitate my slow self by "singing" it a bit different in that spot. Giving ourselves time was something covered before in prior lessons so it shouldn't be a huge deal I hope.

I do have to still do some major work but i'm really happy with how this is moving along now. 👍 I got scared this song was above my skill for awhile, but it's really not. I can do the cord changes, I can do the solo-y movements, I pretty much know why i'm in certain places on the neck, my right hand I really haven't thought about for a while now overall, I'm even managing to change an Evan arrangement to my liking for Low G, and so far managing to transcribe Evan bits that bother me not being there per say from the video, which is new for me... So yeah, it's really not above where i'm at skill wise imo.




Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on October 01, 2020, 06:48:53 am
Let me say that I think it made sense without really understanding the details, Becky

Sounds like you are making good progress.  So all I can say is that I look forward to hearing it when that time comes.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on October 01, 2020, 09:12:52 am
Low G ukes are good to have, I’ve got two tenor ukes, one high G and the other low G, I play the low G one the most. It’s just a nicer sound to me and apart from that there are lots of songs that I like where a high G just doesn’t work - like House of the rising sun and Stairway to heaven, go for it! It’s not too difficult to do, Fluocarbon strings make it easier and sound better because you can get a string that’s solid fluocarbon instead of wound. A company called Living water do them and they ship anywhere.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on October 08, 2020, 03:27:38 am
Georgia is still coming along. I'm not posting about that though.

I might be getting way too excited over this prematurely!

I used to mess around with Blender, free 3d modeling/animation software. Anyway, I saw they made some really nice updates to it since I killed my last video card. R.I.P. I decided to see if the newest vesion would install on my not so awesome laptop, and it did, although it doesn't have a video card past whatever Intel shoved in the onboard graphics chip. I'm not sure i'll be rendering anything on the laptop, but the changes they made to Blender are looking nice.

Anyway!! Mucking around in the program I saw a speaker object could be added into the scenes. this probably isn't new, but it caught my attention since I have FL Studio now. After looking it up in the manual it looks like they gave you have a ton of control over sound in a 3d space. If I don't need a game engine or something wacky to record from blender or off my computer, I think I might be able to put sounds in a 3d space and ideally, I hope to be able to re-record the sound playing inside the 3d space. (Picture moving around in a game if your character flips on the radio and moves around the room, how objects like walls, furnature, doors, block and muffle sounds. Another sort of example is how the Yes album Fragile is recorded. They sound like they were recorded in a room and the band is in a circle around the listener. In 3d I could place speaker cubes around the camera play that. But record what the camera hears.

Now I have no idea if this is possible at this point. 3d software for sound is expensive and I gave up on being able to do that, but if I can load the clips into objects in a blender space then animate the camera to move through the space hearing the sounds play... It sounds like it will work... But not sure how to record hearing what the camera does, since the timeline sounds would just be the sounds themselves.

Eeeeeeeee!!!!!

Well, almost Eeeeeeeeee!!! I need to figure out if recording from Blender or what's playing on my computer is possible first somehow, and I don't have working headphones either which REALLY REALLY sucks since I kind of need them to really hear what effect the sound would be having.

Regardless, i'll stick with feeling excited, until I find out about recording FROM Blender or my computer in general.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on October 08, 2020, 05:29:14 am
Fascinating, Becky. Have fun with that ... and Georgia
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on October 08, 2020, 06:09:39 am
That’s interesting Becky, I’ve not looked at a Blender for a long time! I’m using FreeCad at the moment for my design projects and having fun learning it (it’s not too difficult coming from a SolidWorks background!). I never really got into it because I didn’t really see it as being an engineering design tool, more of a gaming design tool - I could be wrong though, I didn’t spend too much time trying to find out 😂
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on November 08, 2020, 10:03:45 am
Thanks for the update - glad your triads is yielding results.
One note - this is a politics free forum. :)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on November 09, 2020, 03:13:10 pm
Ok Close, not a problem. 👍 Although I thought we could write what we want in our road case as long as it's family appropriate.

I'll just delete the whole entry. It's not important, and don't wanna ruffle feathers. No biggie.

Sorry it took so long to see the reply.

Edit to add: November 8th 2020 never existed now. 😁👍
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on November 09, 2020, 04:20:13 pm
Received the new set of electric guitar strings this morning. I went with the stainless steel half round strings again but in 9's this time.

I'll keep an eye out for fret wear, and I'm going to see if I can get the 10's off intact to re-use the set in an emergency. They're in great shape, and despite this set almost being a year old I can't just trash them if they're fine.

I found videos on crack repair. I looked at the old Rex Royal archtop and might be able to fix it myself eventually. It sounds like just the crack repair would be around $1000 minimum which is crazy expensive for me, especially since I can probably get a new one for less. (Sorry, can't post pictures of my dead guitar collection, I tried)

Anyway, asked about that fantastic song I can't talk about here, on YouTube. 😉 I managed to figure out the first chord. I'm pretty confident it's a Dm, although I thought it was a G6 at first lol.(wow, my ear is impressive huh? <-sarcasm.) Despite trying my best, I can't figure out the chords. Some are buried enough in the rest of the song I just can't hear what's going on, and i'm not good enough yet to hear chords, just melody apparently. I'm fairly confident the second chord has a D in it though! The little fill at the transition to the second chord ends on a D and it settles in as a sound i'm hearing in the second one.

Honestly don't know what i'm going to do now if no one can help me on YouTube seeing I can't ask for help here.... Sigh. That bit sucks a lot. One good thing though, I know not to share my song here if I do finish it. THAT is good to know. It's a bit strange considering folk is political, but not needing to share is A-Okay in my book lol. I wouldn't have recovered from the anxiety of posting junk I make myself, to begin with probably.

Anyway, it's new strings day! And with luck someone will know the chord progression to the song so I can work out more of it.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on November 09, 2020, 04:29:59 pm
Never got to read the deleted post, Becky ... that'll teach me not to read immediately  :o

So I have no idea what you might have spoken about, though assume not a huge enormous issue or Richard would've taken action to remove sections or the entire post himself.

And as such can't offer anything further on the matter of getting help on chords or the sharing of the song you are working on.  I can say that I wrote and shared a song with what I think could count as a political message and am working on another that could spark some political conversation. I will share it with a note that in the Forum we can talk about the production but not get into a debate about the message.

Good luck with the re-stringing

Maybe PM Richard to make sure you are not over-correcting.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: glpguitar on November 09, 2020, 05:52:33 pm
First of all, regarding the "non-existent" post from 8th of November (I did see it ;) ).

I am actually amazed to see your triads progress. That's some serious work you put in. Keep it going! Also sad to hear about your access expiring. I think your observation is very accurate in how Justin showed that people on this forum can do music. I did forget the name of the person that was your "Justin" but hopefully at some point you get access back. Regarding nice people being around wether in person or online. There's many of them around. We might just not notice them straight away. I met quite a few of my very close friends on the most random ocassions both in person and online (including some folks from this forum).

To double David's suggestion. PM close2u to double check. The song itself might not be problematic. Enjoy your fresh-strings-day and keep rockin' 8)!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: close2u on November 09, 2020, 08:13:16 pm
Hi Becky. Just to clarify - linking to and performing songs with a political content doesn't ruffle feathers. My comments to you related to something you wrote (which was neutral but might have invited further comment from others, especially at within this particular week).
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: brianlarsen on November 09, 2020, 09:38:13 pm
performing songs with a political content doesn't ruffle feathers.
I'm workin' on it  ;)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on December 03, 2020, 01:40:04 am
I've tried posting responses to you guys at least 9 times. The problem is I type a little, I sleep the tablet, come back, etc.... I've had issues with the tab erasing or logging me, and it goes away. Not a big deal, but it's annoying. If I used office and just copied here it would solve my problem but the office on Android kind of sucks imo.

David- You didn't miss anything except my disillusionment about humanity and the Lisa Carver song. As Glp mentioned, I finished writing out the 12 CAGED sheets with the triads for guitalele. Only a few gave me problems because of the way the chords wrapped at the 12th fret.

Here's the amazing song though:

https://youtu.be/1vLUHPfwYl8

I'm at a standstill on how to practice the triads in a musical way. I wanted to do chord progressions but I need information I can't find, and because i'm the way I am, i'm stuck. However i've noticed i'm doing a few more things on auto pilot I wasn't before. Which is good, but mostly bad.

Brian - I'm counting on it! 💖 The only feeling i've managed to provoke in people by playing for them so far, is a bit depressing. I made a few people feel something at least, which is the whole point of music I guess. It just blindsided me!

Glp - The guy name who "gave me music" is Andrew. (rockclass101) Losing premium access isn't the end of the world, but I miss it. I'm still a free member over there.

And I know there's nice people out there. I'm just getting worn down by the mean ones and having to cram my feelings away and say nothing about anything going on, sucks.

Music update post in the works.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on December 03, 2020, 04:23:02 am
I'm working on the intermediate version of Mitch's arrangement of the theme from Cheers at the moment. I started it a couple nights ago. I've got the tricky piano part memorized, but not smooth yet. The tricky part isn't as bad as I thought it would be, he broke it down really well. Funny enough, i'm having more trouble transitioning into the alternating bass thumb part, then the labeled tricky part. Either way i'm not moving onto the rest until I have everything up to "wouldn't you like to get away" smooth.

https://youtu.be/NkE7Fs_czVQ

It's a song I want to keep in my repertoire anyway. I wish I had a working regular acoustic guitar at times. I'm playing it on electric because that's what I got to work with guitar-wise. It doesn't quite work as-is on guitalele. It might if I transpose it, but i'm not ready for that junk yet.... Which brings me back to needing more info on Caged.

Before that I was (and still am) working on Moon River from an arrangement I found on jazz guitar lessons.net's, blog? Their download included a lead sheet with the single note melody, (which I had figured out by myself mostly already) a chord sheet, and a chord melody sheet.

Mitch had said chord melodies were mainly found in jazz. It made me think if I knew anything that could be a "standard." (Wtf makes anything a standard anyway??!!) I thought about it for a few days and wondered if Moon River was a standard. Turns out it is. It's short, and I already mostly knew how it went. It took me a few days to memorize the words because I really don't listen to lyrics as lyrics, and get comfortable with the melody in a bunch of places on the fretboard.

I'm ready to work on their step 2 which is the chords. I have to revisit the lesson again at some point soon.

Single note melody garbage is something I got pretty good at, although I didn't really see a point to being good at it. Other than chord melodies, i'm still not convinced it's particularly useful skill compared to others.

Other than the above, I've started a bunch of songs, i've figured out a ton of single note melodies including the riff to Crazy Train which just popped out of nowhere the other day. (Crazy Train sounds kind of weird clean.) So yeah, Andrew is right. If you can sing it, you CAN play it.... At least a single note melody of "it" in my case. I still have to give him a hard time about the saying because I still can't play Recuerdos de la Alhambra. 😉

Anyway i'm going to revisit all Justin's stuff on Caged. If he doesn't answer my questions, I'll scour my favorite guitar teachers stuff. If they don't answer my questions i'll ask in the forums here to find out where to look for answers.

Anyway that's where i'm at right now. I've been off the structured learning tracks for a while. I need to get back on the rails.

Since this time of year is emotionally bad, I might just stay off track until February and just do stuff that keeps me going, and keeps me occupied. Don't know yet. I'll have to see how I hold up.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on December 03, 2020, 05:48:27 am
Good to hear from you, Becky.

Thanks for the Lisa Carver song. It sure moves me, resonates well with lots of my own thoughts. Disillusionment with humanity ... I'm with you, and that there are also moments that lift the spirit.

Spirit lifting for me was to watch My Octopus Teacher. A netflix doco shot down in the fairest Cape of my homeland, but a story that is a little more than a typical natural history, ecosystem doco.

Richard wrote up a series on of posts in the Forum on triads. Replying here not sure exactly where to find that series, maybe under Tips and Technique. Search it out and maybe gives you something to use.

I think being able to figure out and play the single note melodies is  most useful skill.  Doesn't come easily to me. The only couple of times I've got close to that is more by accident, when I stumble over a few notes when noodling and think it sounds like a song.

Go well with the songs you are working on and hope to hear you playing them soon.

And wish you all you need to hold up well.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on December 03, 2020, 09:55:28 pm
David- I'll see if I can check out My Octopus Teacher somewhere. I seem to remember seeing something like that years ago on Nova? (Maybe? It was on the public broadcasting station anyway) I wonder if it's the same show? The name sounds familiar.

Single note melody garbage hasn't been particularly useful to me so far which is why I got so excited seeing the way they presented the lesson. It probably still won't be useful until I learn more, but I haven't even done the second step yet, so I have no idea how that will all go. I'm hoping to be able to make the chord melody myself and double check it against their sheet at the end. that's probably wishful thinking. It's going to take me a long time to get through the rest of the steps i'm sure, if I don't get frustrated.

On single note junk:

If you know nursery rhymes and Christmas carols well enough in your head or can sing a note out loud and match it on the fretboard, you got a good foot in the door with single note stuff if you want a way to mess around with the major scale. Christmas songs are all in there too with a vengeance.

I have my very first attempt at "learning a song by ear" recorded on soundcloud. I can share the utterly cringy thing again if you're curious enough to want to hear bad playing lol. (I can't, in good faith, recommend it) I made it private I think. I was really proud of it then though.

Anyway thanks David. I'll go take my jingle bell crazy train over moon river back to whoville with gloria and inspector gadget so we can all hang out where everybody knows your name.....

Cheers! 😉 (I need sleep)
Becky
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on December 04, 2020, 04:50:42 am
Becky,

MOT is a new release. You can get some details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Octopus_Teacher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Octopus_Teacher)

Maybe I could start with Happy Birthday. I also stumbed over some notes that sound a little like When The Saints.  Meant to find a simple recording of that and try to transcribe it, as I recall I found something to listen to and never got to trying to transcribe it.

LOL ... loved that sign-off

Hope you slept well :)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on December 11, 2020, 07:49:15 am
Worked on somewhere over the rainbow. I can't unhear it in the chords with that moon river lesson. I really want to unhear it.

Did a few more rundowns of the part I stoped at in the Cheers theme.

Worked on Justin's Barbecue King-ish study. Fun stuff btw. My friend came by and he offered me a Mikes hard mango I decided having a drink tonight sounded kinda fun. So yeah failing at trying to pull off Jorma when buzzed is fun. I can't say i'm following the lesson. Just been messing around improvising. Probably sounds awful. I should record myself since im probably pissing everyone off at 2am! Might as well enjoy myself until I get told to shut up!

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on December 11, 2020, 09:21:45 am
Always enjoy your updates, Becky.

Stay safe and well, keep on rocking !!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on December 16, 2020, 03:23:25 am
I decided to do something different I thought would be fun... (It was for a while) I'd mentioned I'd been doing single note melodies of xmas songs because I was tortured with the rotten things for 4 straight months daily, every year, working retail.... I decided to record one. Sort of one anyway.

I can't really say it's been too much fun yet because I keep breaking tracks somehow. I have no idea what i'm doing. So far spent 4 hours just to start over and have a mess of saves I need to find and delete.

Whatever is happening, I loose the audio playback on the track and can't make it sound. It just sits there not playing and I tried everything I could think of, and even watched horrible videos of "beat" people just having a conversation with each other or showing off their music while not explaining anything. Super helpful guys.... 👎 I very rarely thumb down videos. Congratulations.

However FL Studio got an update and they added Tuner which is great!!!!!!!!!! It's nice and big, and even works with voice, but i'm not a singer. On guitar, just pop it on a guitar track and away you go. I imagine the interface is like a guitar pedal, but it's awesome for me. It's way better than my clip on tuner because it reacts to the wahwahwah crud the clip on doesn't, once it gets in the clip on's green range. 👍 I get a visual now which takes guessing if the wah is just clashing with the hum of other junk in tne house. They also upgraded a couple other things I use, that i'm excited about.

Anyway, I'm going to post whatever happens with this project tonight before I sleep. It won't be quality. It won't even be music by definition I since melodies don't qualify, but it will be "something" as long as I can keep the tracks from breaking... It has an xmas theme.... So i'm being mildly festive I suppose.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on December 16, 2020, 04:44:01 am
I'm sure whatever you post will be music and here of course it is much more about learning and giving it a go than the absolute quality relative to ... whatever you use to judge quality.

Unfortunately, I use Reaper so have no idea what might be going on with FL Studio, so no point in my actually asking for more details. Maybe some other folk might be users of that DAW and could help.

Stay well.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: frito on December 16, 2020, 10:44:23 pm
I for one am looking forward to whatever video you post.  Know that it doesn't have to be sophisticated.  Every video I've posted so far has been record on my phone then uploaded to YouTube.  Any way you chose to share - it's all good.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 10, 2021, 11:02:43 pm
Christmas day was okay. I didn't celebrate Christmas. Roger Waters even wished me a Merry Christmas randomly on youtube from a video I had commented on, which I thought was pretty cool. (Love Roger and Pink Floyd... Roger still IS part of Pink Floyd imo, he's just not currently playing with them, Anyway..)

My "surprise" Christmas tune train wreak was going to be Carol of the Bells. That's probably insane as is, but I had figured out how to do the parts in rounds? Where you play 1 part, then layer another, and another. I had recorded tubular bells to go under it all, and technically it should have worked, and pretty much DID, exceptmy timing SUCKS. (And I refuse to quantize or whatever for a progress piece, regardless if it's technically a performance.)

Well, day after Christmas got a call, my uncle passed away. Got another call, my friends grandmother passed away, looked online Tony Rice passed away, all on Christmas.

We got Chinese food on Christmas eve to eat on Christmas. My friend and I have a fortune cookie thing we do. My fortune cookie on Christmas was "Church Bells are in your future." Or something similar. I called my friend we joked that was the stupidest fortune because it insinuates marriage to me, and I felt ripped off by the random fortune cookie fate. He joked maybe a church bell from some movie set would fall off a truck. We laughed it off. There was one extra cookie, I opened it and got the same fortune. So fate was really going hard on this church bell thing.

Anyway, next day, deaths.
Church Bells...

I wasn't motivated to play, I got sad practicing stuff I was currently practicing at the time, because I get that way.

New Years rolls around. Mitch had his first installment of Pink Floyd Friday of 2021 and had High Hopes as the song. The way he introduced it still cracks me up. It's a pretty depressing song, and the video is kind of a jab at Roger, so I was like ummmm... Maybe I won't work on it, but it's a great song, so I was teetering back and forth. I started to learn it.

But again Church Bells, the dudes walking around in the video with bells strapped on their backs. I'd been pretty much radio silent since Christmas, but that was odd with the song too.

I recently started working on getting Steady Thumb Blues ready to record again. I hadn't played it in awhile but it came back fairly quick. I need to work on thumb bass stuff anyway. I also figured I can change it up a little based on Justin's suggestions in the video.

I took the elements of the study, and the pentatonic scale, and decided to make a B part? Basically screwing around as long as I want to, between playing though Steady Thumb Blues the 2x. I recorded a couple days screwing around with it. Might just post one of those recordings train wreaks, mistakes and all, to show i'm alive still. It's been awhile, but I think i'm out of the emotional breakdown woods for the time being.

I didn't enter Mitch's drawing for a lesson. I couldn't / won't do Instagram. He said that was fine, but I felt weird about not being able to follow the rules. I DID video myself playing or practicing High Hopes, as far as I got anyway, which was to the chorus. "The grass was greener" or whatever. I even tried singing, now that was horrible. No, no, NO! Taped it again no singing and still had a horrible panic attack. I didn't send it. Unless I get Xanax no one past whoever saw my first video which I destroyed as soon as I could, is gunna see me on a video. Videos are like havi g your photo taken Millions of times, and most of them are bad, and I stay out of photos like the plague minus one or 2 every few years.

I ordered a guitar early for my birthday. One i'm scared about, but I couldn't help it.

Link to it:

https://m.glarrymusic.com/glarry-41-inch-full-size-eq-cutaway-spruce-top-grape-voice-hole-round-back-acoustic-electric-guitar-p259.html

I wanted a grape sound hole Ovation since they were introduced back when. I know this won't be the same quality as that. I hope I don't get a bad one. It should be really loud though with the moulded back. Plus I can plug it in.

I decided to buy it now before anyone reviewed it. (it's a brand new offering from Glarry.) I didn't want the price to go up IF it gets good reviews. Either way it was $109.99 Like $114.something with insurance, and back down to $109.ish after applying the 5% coupon. Our local pawn shops don't have acoustic or electric guitars for $100. If I could wait another year I'd have probably gotten one of the mini Mitchell Dreadnaughts from guitar center. They were out of my price range but I loved the one I played... And if the pandemic goes away any time soon I might be able to find a used one next year.

Again don't hold your breath for a recording, but i'll be posting some bit of what my 5 months "off" messing around brought me to. I can't say I got "better" I probably back-slid... But again whatever I post is about where my playing is. My 1 year on guitar happened recently, so I feel compelled to document my progress.


Either way, it should be arriving somewhere around Tuesday next week. I'm excited about my Ovation knock off. As long as it's problems aren't dire, i'm sure i'll enjoy it. The back texture looks kinda crap though. It looks like it might be loud. It definitely doesn't look like Ovation's back. I played one.

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on February 11, 2021, 09:05:53 am
Hey Becky, good to hear from you.

Glad you made it through Dec and are rocking on with a new guitar on its way in 2021.

Church bells story was kind of spooky.

Timing on multi-tracks is quite a challenge ... has taken me a few years to get to the point where my timing is solid, consistent and able to make double-tracks and multi-tracks.

Your playing with STB sounds cool. Would like to hear that.

Hope that new guitar sounds good and I'm ready for some more recordings from you when you get around to it.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DarrellW on February 11, 2021, 09:59:03 am
Hi Becky, good to hear you got through the new year ok, we had the germ go through our house over Christmas but came out ok!
Those Ovation knock offs are pretty much ok, Harley Benton, Gear4music and several others sell them, looking at them they’re probably made in the same factory. They’re ok, I’ve got one that I keep at our caravan (trailer maybe?), they stand hot and cold better than all wood ones!
Good luck for 2021, looking forward to hearing more from you!
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 13, 2021, 10:21:38 pm
Two things I didn't think of at all.  😕 I need a 9 volt battery, and a set of strings... I'm an idiot. I can test the eq with the smoke detector battery. I'm stuck with the strings it comes with for a while.

Darrell- Good to hear the guitar has a chance of being okay-ish. That's all i'm asking for. I'd prefer a solid "pretty decent", but sort of okay is perfectly fine. It means when i'm around drunk people who say: "Lemmie shlee yer guituar fer aminit! I wanna pay a shong fer yoooo guysh!!!" I will consider it.

I have my trusty fret end file and painters tape ready to do fret sprout. If the guitar doesn't arrive with it, after being in sub 0 temperatures at night, i'll be really surprised. If it doesn't have it, my house will DEFINITELY cause it when it adjusts to the winter house environment. It's a one time thing that all the ukes and guitars need their first winter with me. I am far from living in a perfect guitar humidor. Gotta roll with what you got.

It's good to know it can probably handle cold a tiny bit better too.... From experience, they just seem to slap a label on the triangular warehouse boxes and send it out. I'm not complaining, much. I have no idea how the acoustics ship. Shipping is free though. I did get the shipping insurance. Wherever it's sitting stationary today, I hope that it's somewhere that isn't too cold.

Also why i'm an idiot:

I decided to run the Windows malicious software removal tool for the first time yesterday at 9:44 am. I figured with someone's computer on the network acting weird with the impressive things the hacking community is doing right now, AND windows updated it yesterday, it couldn't hurt. It hurt. The tool did say "it could take hours." (I wasn't anticipating "hours" to mean many multiples of 24 hours..) It's around 1/4 done. I tried using FL Studio and it's wayyyyyyyy too laggy. I've invested over 24 hours into this stupid scan. I'm finishing it on principle now.

I'm still excited about the guitar, just can't get over not thinking about needing to buy the strings and battery. My budget was a bit less then I thought.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on February 14, 2021, 04:53:21 am
I keep on reading, smiling, and enjoying, Becky.

Glad to have you around.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: CT on February 14, 2021, 05:03:16 pm
Looking forward to hearing your new guit. I have an old Ovation in my arsenal, it's pretty much relegated to a hanging wall ornament and sometimes slide playing vehicle. The action is really high and I've worn down some of the frets. Interested in how much sound is generated acoustically on your guitar with those seemingly small sound holes. Still a good looking guitar and you can't beat that price.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 26, 2021, 06:34:40 pm
CT- I just got a moment. The guitar came to my door with a smashed neck, and I need another saddle because that's smashed too, but playable with a capo over the crack tuned down to standard. I actually like this particular guitar. I'm seeing if I can maybe get the neck fixed because if I replace the guitar i'm rolling the dice again.

Going to just play some random junk and render it and toss it up here as soon as I defrost a bit.

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on February 27, 2021, 05:02:14 am
Don't look forward to this. Totally garbage playing but it's what the guitar sounds like with me playing it. no additional effects other than the guitar's pickup. first bit is just noodling with an idea. second bit was me trying out smacking the strings with my fretting hand and going back to murdering Justin's steady thumb blues study, lol. The picture on the track is how it arrived.

https://soundcloud.com/becky-p-145846069/glarrybrknneck102262021-2/s-TyiXh3rHFpi

yes, yes, I realize it's time to get back on track, but I really have to figure out what I want to focus on in March first.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on February 27, 2021, 07:55:24 am
Becky, have to say I have come to know what to expect from you so despite your caveat I was quite looking forward to what I would hear.

And I was not disappointed in the slightest. In fact, since I first listened I had to pop out and now I am taking a second listen.

I enjoyed the idea you were exploring. Yup I heard the moments when the movement didn't land well. But overall I enjoyed the saying you mixed the chord and melody notes, the melody sounded good. I'd say keep exploring that and from those beginnings, a fine song will emerge.

I wish I could "murder" STB like you do. You've taken it to the next level, throwing in some bass lines, full chords, plus messing with feel of the melody.

And now have to say you have pushed my how-we-use-language button. I know it is one of my buttons that is easily pushed, I guess I am a bit obsessive, but always well intended ...

I know you have a self deprecatory sense of humour and expression, but still I have a thing about describing your playing as garbage. I guess I'd have that feeling even if the playing was of an absolute beginners struggling level, but this playing was not that in my book. Maybe my bar is low and I don't set it high enough for my own good, am too accepting of my own level and it slows my own improvement.

OK enough of my own ranting and raving ... positively intended as I say. Hope you'll indulge me and not take it awry.

I'll just say I really enjoyed your recording, which by the way sounded great, and it is looping now.

As for the guitar, it sounds great. I suppose now there is the short term frustration and tedium of returning and waiting for another, and as you say perhaps not getting expected proper condition on a second cycle.

That aside, personally I'd say bite that bullet, suffer through the disappointment and frustration, and send it back. It sounds great on this recording so worth the effort to have an instrument in good condition as you'd expect.

Look forward to hearing what you decide to focus on, and as your own comfort levels dictate, more recordings like this one.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on March 01, 2021, 12:43:18 am
David no offence taken. :) Can't help it though. I'm happy about where i've gotten and about what I can do so far, but about where i'm at? Nope. I'm not even remotely close to where I am trying to go. I think I could defend my garbage playing comment successfully. lol. :)

I feel the same way you do btw, just not towards my own playing. Is it the goals we have set? Is it our musical influences that I can't help but compare myself to? (*cough*) Low self esteem? All of it? 😉

On STB, so far I only diad sometimes spontaneously.. I am fairly certain it's still mostly all one finger wonder stuff. I didn't play any triads, If I did, it wasn't a conscious effort. I'll check. Thank you for the compliment. I don't feel it's deserved, but I appreciate it. 💖 You had wanted to hear an example of what I was doing with STB.. That's about the gist of stuff going on in the "B" part so far. But meh. It's fun and I gotta start somewhere right? LOL.

The guitar's definitely not one i'd recommend for someone's only guitar because it has its problems, but I knew I was rolling the dice with acoustics. It sure isn't breathing on the same continent as a Romero Creations, and not even remotely close to an Ovation! lol!!) I can thumb over 6th string on it though.  I absolutely can't on anything else in my possession. Action is crazy low, it's got the old style low frets. Pickup knob will definitely break sooner rather than later, but it's a guitar that I can not worry too much out and about.

Glarry said they would exchange it if I couldn't get it fixed. It's looking grim, but I have to get a hold of two more places with luthiers in the area Monday, and get back to them.

Kind of panicking about redo-ing my practice schedule, but I'm going to continue on with High Hopes and i'll see if I can get STB recorded. Still have to record Anybody Out There for the challenge thread..... I can probably brush that off and get that posted.

Eh, i'll update anyway.


Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: CT on March 01, 2021, 03:30:07 am
Your clip sounded good, Becky! Nothing to be shy about at all. Some nice riffage there. 

If the guitar came damaged you should ship it back. I wouldn't wait too long to do it either. 
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on March 01, 2021, 09:13:39 am
Thanks for taking my little rant in the spirit intended, Becky. To waffle on a little more ...

For me comparisons with musical influences isn't something I ever enter into. In my mind, for me to compare myself with Neil Young, even at the start of his recording career, would be irrational and unhelpful. It is likely that even at that point he may have more hours devoted to learning guitar than I may ever achieve. Rather than a comparison, he is a North Star for me ... I take inspiration and direction from his music. 

But as I said, maybe I lack the most burning passion and ambition to achieve the most I possibly could achieve. So maybe making comparisons is helpful. And I suppose that is the crux of the conversation. If it helps you and the garbage playing comment helps you, keeps you motivated, positive, engaged then who am I to suggest otherwise.

As for the guitar, I'd suggest you take up Garry on their offer to replace. Buying a brand new product of A grade quality (whatever level of quality the instrument may inherently be) should ensure you have an instrument in perfect manufactured quality, unblemished, albeit within the tolerances of the grade of instrument purchased. It wouldn't sit well with me to have to get a new item repaired straight from the box.

Irrespective, look forward to more recordings from you as you press on with the learning and more enjoyable, thoughtful conversations.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: TCB on March 01, 2021, 02:45:33 pm
Becky - I totally enjoyed your new guitar demo and playing STB. Thanks for sharing it!

I also think you should return the guitar and have them replace it rather than having it repaired. My thought is you should get what you paid for - not something that's been damaged and repaired. Just my opinion...

Tom
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on March 05, 2021, 05:05:19 pm
Well my birthday was the 2ond. I decided last minute I'd go out, it ended up being the worst night. It literally STARTED with me tripping over a damn curb trying to dig a mask out of my pocket. Then I sat in front of the store's door that I was trying to go to, like some psycho for a half hour+ because I couldn't walk, and they couldn't hear me in the car. People were walking around me as far as they could possibly get, and no one offered to see if I needed help. (Bonus negative points for humanity) Then I was getting yelled at because my friend was stressed, and we found out his friend's apartment was on fire right then... And there was an accident right down the road too which also happened as I fell, so emergency vehicles were everywhere not far away making tons of noise. My friend had to call someone to help me into a car, which took a while because of the accident and the fire.... Ironically I had started typing here earlier on the second, about not going out. I had declined but decided later to go out.... So yeah I ended up sitting and watching a Tenacious D movie, and a movie about a magical toy store...

Both had musical themes dealing sort of with (kind of) what me n' David were discussing. LOL.

Anyway I can put some weight on my knee today.

I'm keeping the guitar. They gave me a discount on it. If I didn't need the money for my stupidity now, I would have exchanged it. (I planned to) So yeah my birthday present fits the whole "crappy birthday to me" theme. I didn't think it would set the president for that night.

I meant to go buy a proper guitar slide too. We were supposed to go to the music store right after the restaurant since it was just down the road... I'd been trying to get a slide since Christmas. I give up.

On the sunny side of things:

I figured out a fun to play Tool sounding (probably bass) riff? or whatever it actually qualifies to be called, on the 3rd. Going to share that today. It sounds pretty cool. (It's short, and if I don't record it, i'll forget it sooner rather than later.)

TCB  and CT- Thank you.

David- No worries about me not staying motivated to play. There's maybe a total of 3 weeks in 3 years where I didn't pick up an instrument daily. One week was things I couldn't help, another week I was in the hospital, and the rest was a few days here and there, sick or injured, or I was dealing with a slump.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: CT on March 05, 2021, 08:40:06 pm
Look on the bright side, any day above ground is a good day! LOL

I've been mucking around (off and on and off again) with slide guitar. My goto slide right now is the Dunlop Moonshine Ceramic. I'll be raising the action a bit higher on my Ovation and hope to pop out a jam sometime soon. Cheers!   
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on March 06, 2021, 07:42:37 am
Gosh Becky ... what a tale. What can I say ... life, lemons and tequila springs to mind but maybe not the appropriate thought.

Will wish you well for a speedy recovery, a year in which the lowest moment is the birthday saga, and hope the discount is sufficient to take care of necessary repairs to the guitar ... which as I said, still sounded pretty good in the demo.

Other than that ... I wish I'd picked up an instrument everyday with some exceptions. In my case it is more a case of I pick up my guitar a good few days a week every week, with weeks with no play mostly from memory being when I was away from home without a guitar.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twin Six on March 10, 2021, 03:53:32 pm
Oh horror! But Happy Birthday anyway, as my brother is fond of saying. Sorry to hear it was so wretched.

My wife had a similarly rotten birthday years ago, when she tripped down the steps of a restaurant and cut her chin pretty deeply while I was inside paying for her birthday dinner. I came out to find her on the ground in pain. I helped her to the car, and she dabbed her chin with some napkins we keep in the car. Suddenly the police arrived, and while my wife was being loaded into an ambulance, the cops asked me if I was a wife-beater, explaining that they had to ask, ugh. Being America, we ended up $800 poorer for the hospital visit.

Hope you're feeling better. At least you've got your music therapy.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on March 12, 2021, 04:54:55 am
David - The discount isn't enough to fix the guitar. It's enough for a visit to a clinic for me though if I decide I should go in or need medication or something.

Twin Six - Jeeze, I guess i'm not alone. Sorry your wife had to spend the remainder of one of her birthdays in the hospital bleeding.  😞 At least i'm not alone in having at least one ultra crappy birthday I guess. lol.

Been walking without my friend's cane I borrowed since yesterday. Stairs still suck to walk up and down so I use the cane there still. I'm just glad I didn't take the fall on my arms again.

I ordered a Dunlop 222 from Amazon. It was the closest to a 7 1/2 ring size that *I* could find in brass that was within the $7 I had in a gift certificate. It's a ring size 9, so I stuffed some paper towel in the end to snug it against my finger. I want to find a red cap of some sort to pop in the end of the slide and it will look like a big shotgun shell lol. (Won er if a shotgun shell would work if I could get ahold of one.)

I watched Justin's beginner slide technique video and the video he made with that Ariel Posen guy. (probably mutilated his name.)

Playing on the front of the slide is easier than laying it flat on the Pacifica because of the fretboard radius. (imo) But the 222 is about an inch longer than my finger so that's probably not an ideal situation for technique. It's what I have at the moment though, and it beats using 3 fingers to hold and control a Bic lighter.

Just been messing around with the slide so far. Played a slide bit from a "support our out of work bartenders" commercial from Covid. It's the first thing I thought of when I jammed it on my finger. Tried to pull off a bit of the High Hopes solo.. rofl! I swear to god, David Gilmore made that solo to troll people trying to learn it. There is SUCH a fine line between AWESOME and torturing the myriad of small creatures he sings about lol. Anything after where they start tossing balloons on the bridge in the video has a high likelihood of sounding like a tortured cat if you aren't spot on. I'm definitely in the cat torture stage lol. I think I need to learn it without a slide first.

Slide is great to torture your family with too if they tick you off, especially if you have 150 watt studio monitors. Pretty sure I could piss off the entire neighborhood if I wanted to with those things.

What else am I working on...

I started over with the fretboard note names. I am trying a fretboard trainer this time. (I can't download Justin's so I found one usable off of a web page.) I decided one week per string no matter how well I think i'm doing, so i'm looking at 5 weeks.

Surprisingly I know more than I thought I did, but I'm still far from being constantly instant. I'm doing the Low E for roughly a half hour before I sleep since the trainer i'm using says "pick the note Ab" and then you poke at a picture of a guitar neck on the highlighted string. I'm running it on easy mode which lets you select single strings you want to work on, and it isn't timed to end after 60 seconds. It takes me roughly 1 second per question on the Low E. This is only my second day trying the trainer, but whatever it is that's different about using it vs quizlet, or trying to name and play the note on my guitar is working for me. I'm already linking fret numbers to note names freaking finally. Considering I've been working on this for at least a year it's about freaking time i'm learning the stupid note names instead of just kind of knowing where I should play a note im thinking a tone for with absolutely no clue what the note is called without spending 2 minutes figuring it out. Then needing to go and double check to make sure it's right, etc.

Other than the above, that's pretty much all i'm really focusing deeply on at the moment. Still working on some songs. I always work on random junk when I sit down and play.... That reminds me!!!!

THIS!!! is why I get weird about fingerpicking vs using a flat pick.

https://youtu.be/rSTefniYYOU

It's what I get kind of overwhelmed with when I start using a flat pick. There's just so freaking much to focus on separately using either technique. I'm not happy with my fingerpicking yet, starting from 0 with a pick that I don't really want to use to begin with 99% of the time, is really discouraging. I definitely don't have a list of 20 things to work on like that, but every time I sit down with an instrument I work on random things from that list on pieces of songs i'm currently working on. Even when i'm just messing around I usually am focused on working on something. (not that it's noticeable in my case. I still suck at practicing.)

Anyway, that's enough babbling. I do have that short Tool inspired thing recorded but haven't rendered it because my slide arrived, and I was just playing through FL Studio. It's my only way of amplifying my electric.

I'll try to fling it up soon. Like I said, it's really short and just fun to play for a minute or so once your fingers get it.



Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on March 12, 2021, 02:44:10 pm
Always enjoy your updates, Becky.

Slide definitely somewhere ahead for me. I have one. I have a resonator which I know can sound great with a slide.  And that's about it.  Lots of learning, including finger-picking technique, chord shapes, open tuning ... one day

Speaking of, if you don't really want to use a pick and all the recordings you've shared were made finger-picking then I'd not worry about using the pick, just focus on the finger-picking.  And maybe one day you may come across some music that inspires you and requires a pick. 

Keep plugging away with the notes. Sure you'll get there.  And I wish I could play more by ear.

Look forward to when you fling up that recording ...
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on March 22, 2021, 06:44:06 am
Tomorrow I do string 4 in the fretboard trainer. As much as I thought I was getting the note names, I'm not any better off then I was. I'm still seeing this through, but it's like doing everything else. I guess I just keep doing the same thing and expect different results. Insanity, or is it simply dumping the bucket?

I've been working on slide. I guess I'll be able to play a relatively simple, but hopefully okay sounding melody to Amazing Grace at some point since that's the first thing I thought of to play, and I keep working on it.

I was using Tuner to get the notes right. I stopped doing that. I check some notes, but for the most part i've been trying to hit notes like I'd be singing them... If I was singing out loud.... This causes copious amounts of weird uncontrolled mouth movements and facial expressions as I try to hit the note... I don't care if other people do it. I do care when I do it lol.

I think if you are a guitar teacher and have people who refuse to sing, like me, give those students a slide and say "Fine, you don't wanna sing? Learn slide then." Because it's exactly like singing.

Knowing the slide position over frets is important to hit the note, and I need practice with that of coarse, but in reality... It's singing.
 
Been playing the opening to Wonderful Tonight to work on my bends. Wonderful Tonight is a good song to work on how i'm shaping notes actually too. If i'm playing a string too hard it's really noticeable. I should see if there's a lesson for the song.

Other then that, haven't done much else today. Been playing Take My Breath Away by Berlin, but that doesn't count really as "playing" it since its just the melody.









Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on March 22, 2021, 07:21:48 am
Glad to hear you continue to press on, Becky.

Slide is one of those things that are in my future.  Just don't have the time available to focus on it right now

Did you see the video that was posted up with an approach to learning the notes on the fretboard.  Builds on what I recall Justin's lesson on this taught.  Just another process to invest 5 minutes a day in.

How did things wrap up on that guitar that arrived damaged?  Hope I'm not re-opening a wound ...

Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 08, 2021, 03:32:05 am
David- I took a discount for the guitar. I've watched a million youtube videos with the fretboard notes, practice on my guitar and a trainer. I'm just a moron.

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Been practicing slide mostly. Got a decent wolf whistle from Boston down tonight.

My muting is improving. using my pinky planted on high e, my other fingers planted on the next 3 strings, and I'm laying my thumb down to mute low E and A like bass muting. (Yes, I know that's probably not how to mute, but it's the only way *I* can.)

I took the pickup off the new guitar. It turns out there was a silica pack trapped inside the guitar that was sliding around.

I also had to take the saddle out to get the pickup out. They shimmed above the pickup with a thin slice of plastic inlay, which I found interesting. The pickup itself I have questions about, but another time.

I think i'm going to order a bone saddle and nut and some cheap nut files off Amazon and see if I can do it. The saddle it came with is trashed. The nut literally popped right off when I tried to remove it. 👍

I took paper from a guitar string since it seems popular on youtube, and shimmed under the nut to play with raising the action. I haven't tried shimming the saddle up yet.

CT mentioned playing slide on his ovation, which gave me the bright idea to try to turn this guitar into something like a lap steel. lol. I'm just not sure I can get a premade saddle high enough. (I'm not trying to make anything from a blank with no tools.)

I'm busting open a Mikes hard mango and going to practice. I'll see if i'm up to chopping audio after. Might post something if i'm awake all night.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: tobyjenner on April 08, 2021, 11:01:19 am
Becky

Always agreed and looks like you have all sorts of fun and some of it not so ho ho fun ! Keep it coming.

Cheers

Toby
 8)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 08, 2021, 01:11:26 pm
Thanks for the update, Becky.

No recordings ... guess you got some sleep which sounds like a good thing.

Look forward to hearing some slide when you are ready.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: CT on April 08, 2021, 04:08:00 pm
CT mentioned playing slide on his ovation, which gave me the bright idea to try to turn this guitar into something like a lap steel. lol. I'm just not sure I can get a premade saddle high enough. (I'm not trying to make anything from a blank with no tools.)
Thanks for calling me out on playing slide! I have some work to do. :(

I had a couple of good romps with my Ovation on slide, in open G, and then went to plug it into the AI and got a bunch of snap-crackle-pop noises. Most likely old/bad 9v battery mojo at play. The Ovation battery is inside the preamp housing -- which means a string change and then go fishing deep into the heart of the guitar. While the guitar is dismantled (just to change the stinking battery!!), I need to add the shims back under the saddle. I took the shims out to lower the action and it's still too dang high to function as a player, so I need to raise it higher and dedicate it to slide. This guitar also has a lot of fret wear and has been with me a long time. I just can't part with it because it's a huge part of my guitar journey.

You may want to take a look under the saddle, on your next string change, and see if you can shim it higher as well. I can't advise on what to use as shims, my guit came with a couple of shims made of a bakelite type of material.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 10, 2021, 07:08:52 pm
CT- Hmm. Just loosen the strings? I have my strings pulled to each side, kind of hooked over the machine head post closest to the nut on each side, so I could get the nut and saddle off without needing new strings. (And without messing with the string pegs at the bridge, because i'm concerned I won't get them back in right.)

That sounds like a big pain though to change a battery! I'm not calling you out btw lol.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: CT on April 10, 2021, 09:29:35 pm
CT- Hmm. Just loosen the strings? I have my strings pulled to each side, kind of hooked over the machine head post closest to the nut on each side, so I could get the nut and saddle off without needing new strings. (And without messing with the string pegs at the bridge, because i'm concerned I won't get them back in right.)

That sounds like a big pain though to change a battery! I'm not calling you out btw lol.
No worries. Strings are cheap and I have ham hands. My hands aren't small like this guy:



His guitar is a different model, and I know it was a beast to do this on my Balladeer model from the early-mid 80's.

Also, I need to remove the strings to remove the saddle and put the shims back in. I also want to use a thicker gauge of strings for better slide tone. All signs point to new strings.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 13, 2021, 04:14:42 am
LOL at the crickets in the video. Yeah that definitely looks like a pain CT lol. I like outside access pickups, or possibly the ones you can access right inside the soundhole's edge. 😉

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Revisited the beginner course. I remembered I skipped some lessons in grade 2. I had forgotten why. I saw most had to do with palm muting. Like power chords, distortion, etc.... 😞 THAT got me all frumpy so I asked in the forum for alternatives. Doubt anyone will be able to answer, but it can only be beneficial to ask. Someone might know of something I can maybe do. I pretty much accept I can't do some things, but I'm in permanent denial about there being ways around things I can't do.

Found out my strings are filing off brass from my slide. My pointer finger, which mutes behind the slide, came away with black stripes after a lengthy slide session. I guess I have to find a stainless slide eventually.... 👎

Played through Justin's major scale in 3rds lesson, and I like the added bits in his new course for linking the positions together. 👍

Doing the whole fretboard in the trainer this week. Checked to see if Justin's note trainer app was available yet. It doesn't look like it's likely to ever be available, but i'll check every once in awhile. If it's been years since release, i'm keeping "unlikely" as it's status. Not sure why either. *shrugs*

Messed around for an hour or so semi-using my exercise everyone kinda said wtf to. Messed with playing two, fingered notes and moved them around in the wtf key exercise, as well as generally up and down the neck exploring tensions I guess? I really have no idea. A bit of my triad practice seeped in, but still running around blind with a lot.

I still can't play in front of my friends without freaking out some.

Playing in tune has caused me some issues. My only friend who plays, tunes his guitar in a specific out-of-tune way to suit his style and voice. If I play his guitar I can distinctly hear the strings being out of tune, and whatever I play on it, sounds like completely out of tune crap. I think from now on I will offer to play bass with him. I think I can make that work. (not that I know how to play bass, but I can do okay with root notes and chord tones apparently) I haven't tried jamming with him on bass, but maybe i'll have better luck than with guitar or ukulele. He wants to be the focus of attention anyway. I'm more then happy to oblige.

Tonight i'm going to write down the melody to amazing grace and see what I can do with adding chords or something to the single note stuff so I can start to practice using my fingers with the slide. Not sure i'll be successful, at either thing, but i'll see how it goes.

I might go through the skipped lessons here, and jot them down in my notebook.



Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 13, 2021, 06:20:00 am
Always enjoy your updates, Becky. Not much really to say in reply. We all keep on keeping on, putting in the hard yards to learn the instrument, to be able to express the music that lies within with our instrument(s)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 16, 2021, 04:26:07 pm
Woke up not feeling great, but I was a little inspired. I was thinking about the song Mouldy Old Dough by Lt. Pigeon.

Side note... I REALLY love that yellow coat in the top of the pops recording that's on youtube. I want one to wear daily. I'd sooo rock it... 😇

Anyway, I started working on the song. I'm having a bit of trouble with the tin whistle part in the beginning. There's a couple of my "brown" notes in there. Which seems insane to me. I don't know if i'm having issues with string tambre, or what. It's frustrating though that I get into a: "There isn't one note on any string that sounds right!" frame of mind, and after playing a million "wrong" notes I can't hear the song anymore in my head. So I have to re-listen and repeat the frustration. I might hold off until I feel better and have a bit more patience, but again, I should take advantage of my inspiration... Bleh.

Anyway it's probably premature, but I think I can actually make an arrangement of this. It's not a difficult song, and is sounding fun so far on ukulele. (Grabbed the uke when I woke up) I am identifying bits of chords too... but not in a particularly lightbulb way, but it feels like it's half progress.

This is the second time I've woken up and figured out at least part of a song lol. At least this time the song doesn't modulate to "wtf is going on?" land like X-files does. I really need to ask about that so I can finish that one. I can't figure out what's happening.

Anyway, I feel awful. Going to go lay down. I'll probably keep working on MOD today on and off. Might see if I can hear the notes better on guitar, donno.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: tobyjenner on April 16, 2021, 07:23:23 pm
Becky

Blimey been decades since I heard MOD and being of an age I recall watching that TOTP show when it went out on the Beeb !! Be great to hear a finished version. Keep working on that one, can still hear that MOD line in my head after all these years !

Cheers

Toby
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 17, 2021, 06:23:10 am
Love your updates, Becky.

Unlike Toby have never heard of the song and have the briefest memories of TOTP before we emigrated to South Africa in '74, a country that didn't have TV in '74.

Keep on rocking and rolling.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 29, 2021, 08:29:21 pm
Notes:

Find classical exercises for right hand that work coordination that I need

used that Tool inspired thing, I figured out, to warm up. The need to make those motions with all my fingers, not just the one i'm using to hit the bass note, just smacked me in the face. (uses a bass thumb rhythm, hammer ons and requires 2 hits on bass which requires a finger on right hand to come over and do an extra pluck on E, which is a little tricky to do at first actually.) still have to just chop out and export the stupid mps of it here.I

Look into Edison on FL, reference tutorial on bookmarking automatically on, record on play? that would be a really nice feature for speedy editing of takes and fast export.

That also reminded me been putting off accent exercises... maybe do them in an open tuning? Might not want to blow my brains out if they're slightly musical.

worked a bit off Fretjam's new chord melody lesson on youtube today. 👍 Looking forward to the third one. Since chord melody is my thing, (if there's vocals especially) it's nice to find lessons on it specifically, it makes the whole make music while you're learning a bit easier to know kind of what I should focus on.

Oh! Mitch's live stream on arpeggios- THE EXTRA NOTES.. find and maybe finally play what I consider a freaking arpeggio. Donno why more people just don't say 'this is what you're probably hearing, BUT...' when we go 'teach us an arpeggio'.. Is it obvious or something? When *I* asked about arpeggios that partial answer I was given, was just enough to make me wonder wtf I was hearing if it wasn't "an arpeggio"... freaking hell. I was convinced I wasn't hearing "arpeggios" for years because of that.

(really good video on arpeggios though if anyone goes through this, Mt Guitar on youtube, the last live stream, I think, at time of posting. Good information brush up at the very least.)

i'll try to get the above in more today/possibly go into some of the stuff I need to get to, as I can.

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Friend tried to give me a solo the other night. recognized it as he was beginning to hand it to me. (which is nice I can ID the gesture actually) and my solo was: "Thank you, can't take a solo if you had a gun to my head." and he took it back lol. I wasn't in his groove, he was drinking, I was having 1 beer for 5 hours.. I couldn't get into whatever rhythm he was playing by the time we played anything. Not sure if the different amounts of alcohol factored in, or if it was just a rhythm I wasn't into.

Gotta suck it up and learn the kind of shuffle I hate.... bleh.

My next door neighbor who is stuck in a bad mental loop from a situation, moved forward a little. Sounds like he's trying to move on today. 👍 He talks about what nightmare thing he's stuck reliving, uncontrollably. Part of it's PTSD, part is whatever he has going on mentally. He also talks really loud, so just "not listening" isn't possible most times of day, when he's out. I'm rooting for him though. It's good to hear him attempting, even though he isn't totally sold on moving on yet. My sister is still on me that I suggested he was talking on the phone to him. He liked the idea. He doesn't seem to feel as self conscious speaking uncontrollably with the cell phone excuse, and he lightened up and is friendlier. I don't see any harm with having put it out there. People walking around talking hands free on cell phones do exactly what he can't help doing....

anyway thats my update... oh played more slide. been messing more with Gilmores high hopes solo. by getting farther it's sounding more like it... also tuned my $11 uke in Low G to open G. Donno what i'm doing in open tunings. playing with my other fingers would be a nice bonus lesson if I can find one, it's coming slow. still smack the slide hard onto the strings a lot when going into it. Some fingerings are awkward. I guess thats why people say it doesn't matter what finger you choose for slide. One's gone regardless. Figuring out how to make the remaining ones work in it's place is the trick. Then bringing back in the slide... no loss of brass though on uke because of available  non round wound string choices. (That i'm aware of and can acquire for guitar that aren't over $20 a set)
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 30, 2021, 08:46:27 am
You keep on going, Backy, and I'll keep on reading.

Arpeggios ... my understanding ... that would be playing the notes of the chord individually. maybe that is overly simple.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Majik on April 30, 2021, 08:58:05 am
Arpeggios are usually about playing the "chord tones". I think this is slightly different from the "notes in the chord", depending on how you interpret that.

When you play a chord you play *some* of the chord tones that are available in that position because, with a chord, you can only fret one note per string.

With the arpeggio you play all of them as there is often more than one chord tone on each string. It more like playing the scale, but missing out the non-chord notes. And you learn them on every string even if the chord only uses 4 or 5 strings

Cheers,

Keith


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Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 30, 2021, 09:06:32 am
Thanks for that extra clarity, Keith. I had noticed that you can play more than one note per string but very useful to state it explicitly.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: Twilight Storm on April 30, 2021, 07:58:05 pm
It's International Jazz Day. So happy jazz day to everyone. Decided to listen to some Lee Ritenour and a few of my favs to celebrate since I can't really play jazz properly.

David- I'm seriously one of those kind of people who misses what's obvious to most everyone. An old friend used to be my Captain Obvious back in the day. 💖 Won't ever forget us both being in an altered state once with both of us having 2 glowsticks on strings. Then at one point we both locked eyes and wordlessly both decided to suddenly become all out fire spinners, spur of the moment in the middle of town. (on a busy night.) That was my first experience truly locking in with someone else, and it was a great feeling. I can imagine it's like what it's going to be like playing with someone and locking into the music if I can get a handle on this whole music thing. Our other friends literally drug us away complaining, as people were clapping because we gathered a fairly good sized crowd, who seemed to enjoy it, but in our state we shouldn't have been going "Hey everyone! Come look at us!!!!" LOL! In all honesty it was the correct decision at the time. (always listen to the babysitter/person who is not messed up. #1 rule.) Our groups designed babysitter moved everyone to a forrest so we couldn't attract any more attention from crowds. ✌ 😇

Majik- yup. 👍

Going to try to record that little Tool thing in Edison today. My hope is to post it... It's so short there's no excuse not to, other then chopping audio is my least favorite thing.
Title: Re: Twilight Storm's Road Case
Post by: DavidP on May 01, 2021, 08:06:42 am
Did not know it was international jazz day. I am not a habitual listener to jazz. What I've listened to is that jazz my late Dad loved. If I have to choose, I'd probably pick Django playing with Stephane as the Hot Club of France.

But rather than that, take a look at this video, for a jazzy version of perhaps the most well known song in the world ...





Love the story of a moment of connection, of being totally in the moment, in the zone as folks today might say, when nothing else matters, only what you are doing and feeling in the moment, a moment of pure bliss.

Something to keep in mind and aspire to when making music, either with somebody or on your own, either for yourself or for others to enjoy.