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Title: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on April 27, 2019, 11:38:10 pm
Here’s Where I Am After 4 Years


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OK, I’ve been thinking about starting a Road Case for some time. So I’m finally going to jump in now; which is the time I’m starting to mix the last four songs of Justin’s Beginner’s Course with dipping my toes into the uncertainties of the Intermediate Course. 

Looking back, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed the process of learning to play my Takamine G Series Guitar. Which is my second guitar and my second attempt at learning. My first was a simple Harmony guitar if I remember correctly bought from Sears. I attempted trying to learn back in my early 40’s. I practiced for two years, learned a few songs, then lost interest until I tried again 4 years ago; inspired by a friend who simply showed me a video of her daughter learning to play the guitar. I started again with my Harmony; paid $25 to have it adjusted. I played it a short while then decided to look for a new one. I had a knowledgeable friend go with me to look at some, then I went on my own to a couple places until I found the Takamine. Yes it’s true that when you hear the one you want, you will know it. So I bought it.  Now, four years later, as I’m learning about E-shaped Barre chords, I’m seeing that I may need to have the action adjusted on it.  Not now, but in time, I will start looking for another guitar because I’m recently feeling “GAS”!

Back to my process up until now. I have gone through the steps advised by Justin. I have practiced each of his songs in order, practicing each one for seven days and then moving on to the next lesson. In addition, I’m going through his online videos following suggested practice routines. Plus his Music Theory & his Strumming Techniques. I also have some extra lessons from my previous studies. I have a Mel Bay Grade 1 Book that I’m slowly going through, learning the notes from that. Another that has 50 lessons called “US School of Music”. I’m over halfway through that.

I just play in my bedroom almost every evening. But I do skip a few evenings here and there. In my Skype with Justin, he told me I was doing too much at one time, so he showed me how to break it down which helped me a lot.

During this time, some of my highlights have been meeting all you Forum members. Also joining in with a few collaborations - My first one, Lynn introduced me to a man from England who was looking for a female vocal with a Texas accent. I didn’t play guitar in his song, only vocals, but we met through her on this forum. From there we have conversed and collaborated on other projects since then. He helped me with some Recording effects on a second submission of my “Brand New Key” song. So thanks, Lynn, for introducing me to him. I have & still do enjoy collaborating with him. Second was LBro volunteering to help me improve the recording on my “I’d Rather Go Blind” song which was very much appreciated.  And the third was the Christmas Collaboration song “Baby Please Come Home” with David & Max. All this has helped with the learning process.

Also, I have tried to participate in the monthly/bi-monthly/tri-monthly contests, getting great advice and constructive criticism which also helps with the learning process. Even winning one when I recorded “How to Save a Life” and coming in 3rd with David & Max in the Christmas Collaboration. That was cool since everyone won something in that contest!  Also submitting audio or video in the AVOYP Section is great & awesome support.

I’m trying to learn the recording processes which for me is kind of hard, but I’m hanging in there and with each attempt, hope to improve in how they turn out. I have a Presonus AudioBox USB 96 and I’m using Studio One 3 Artist DAW.

I have about 26 songs in my Repertoire. Some are just easy kid’s songs (I wanted to be able to play for my grand baby), two I wrote myself, some are my own personal favorite covers, some are from Justin’s BC that I really liked & that seemed to work well with my vocal range.

I am currently at a stand still on recording another song. I bit off more than I can chew on a song I love that has fingerpicking that I can’t play fast enough & it’s hard for me to memorize. It’s “Let Her Go” by Passenger. So I’m not sure whether to keep on trying with it, or to move on to an easier one but still keep practicing this one.

I’m just a private player, only playing for you all & for my own enjoyment. I was brave enough once to play for my two grandsons who were about 14 & 11 at the time. I couldn’t tell if they were that impressed honestly.  And my 4 year old gets to hear me some in addition to what my husband hears through the bedroom door.  One time, my son, who is also a beginner, wanted to try my guitar during our Christmas gathering. So he was playing around with it and he started playing the 12-bar Blues. So I grabbed my Harmony and attempted to join in with some Am Pentatonic improv.  My step-daughter came in to listen so that was kind of neat.

I sometimes sit out on my back porch wondering what someone might think if they heard me. As long as I didn’t know they were listening, I could keep playing, but if I knew they were there, I would freeze up.  Justin asked me how I could play for the forum but couldn’t play for a live person. I told him I could always have a do-over on a recording. He said I could have a do-over for a real person too. But still, I haven’t.  A big part of me not playing for an audience is that I have poor memory. I can memorize a song, but it’s very hard for me to retain it, so I always have to have the music in front of me. Justin did tell me how to write the major points down & have them on the floor or somewhere near that I could read but I haven’t tried it.

OK, this is getting long so I’ll stop for now.  I suppose before I post anymore, I need to read some of your Road Cases & comment on them. I read a couple a while back & today read through Batwoman’s. I’ll be checking in on others when I can.

Best Wishes to all,

Pam
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: batwoman on April 27, 2019, 11:47:45 pm
Mysterious Pam, please do tell.  :)
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on April 28, 2019, 03:15:23 am
Hehe, Maggie!  I wrote some more, so hope you will go back and read the rest.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 28, 2019, 06:22:12 am
Lovely to read your story, Pam.

It has been a pleasure to be along for the ride through listening to all your posts. I've loved hearing you grow in ability and confidence. I've found that inspiring, hearing and seeing the progress.  And I confess, I've always felt a measure of connectedness with you (and a few others) who seemed to be making similar progress through the BC as myself ... like we were in the same class in school  ;D

I'm looking forward to reading the next episode after you've read a few more RCs.

And of course await your next recording with keen anticipation.
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: batwoman on April 28, 2019, 06:25:37 am
Hey Pam, glad you've started your RC. It's good to get to know you better and to follow your progress. Knowing how well you sing and play I'd love to see you play for a small group of friends. As Justin said, you can always do a take 2. Isn't LBro just the best in the way he so generously shares his knowledge? I sure do understand how daunting the whole thing is, so power to you sister that you're continuing to learn. Look after that golden voice of yours.  Very much wanting to hear your next production Pam.
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on April 28, 2019, 06:01:48 pm
Thanks David!  So good to read your comments. You are one of the best at conversing with all of us. Your’s is the next RC I’m going to read through. So I’ll be seeing you over there. Yeah, I feel the connection same as you. Seems like we are progressing similarly but I think you are passing me a little bit. That’s OK. We each have our own speed.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on April 28, 2019, 06:04:28 pm
Thanks so much, Maggie!  Yeah, it’s neat over here getting to know everyone’s story and becoming a little closer to one another. Yep, LBro is so generous in sharing his assistance and knowledge. A keen believer in paying it forward.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: DavidP on April 28, 2019, 08:01:07 pm
Thanks David!  So good to read your comments. You are one of the best at conversing with all of us. Your’s is the next RC I’m going to read through. So I’ll be seeing you over there. Yeah, I feel the connection same as you. Seems like we are progressing similarly but I think you are passing me a little bit. That’s OK. We each have our own speed.

Kind of you to say, Pam.  And as for passing, I don't think about that sort of thing.  As you say, we are all getting on with it here, following our own path and developing in the way that works for us.
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: LievenDV on April 28, 2019, 08:33:08 pm
thanks for sharing; So much songs in your repertoire and still such a private player.   ;)
No worries, what matters most is how it serves YOU.
If you would really wanto to "go public", we are all here to help you as well!
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on April 29, 2019, 02:24:18 am
Thanks LievenDV. I think, for me, it would have to just happen, no pushing from my end. Sort of like when my stepdaughter just walked in for a listen. Or if a neighbor hears me play and shows an interest. If only I had better memory skills I may be more willing to step out a little more. I don’t believe I can’t learn; I just must have a bit of a spot of a sponge on my brain that doesn’t soak in as well as it should. I’ve always had bad retention skills. But I really do enjoy playing no matter what else happens. Thanks for commenting. Will look you up soon.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: LievenDV on April 29, 2019, 09:30:20 am
I’ve always had bad retention skills. But I really do enjoy playing no matter what else happens. Thanks for commenting. Will look you up soon.


btw, Nothing wrong to put a little stand in front of you with a it of help.
the thing just being there will give you as much comfort as actually reading some stuff from it. :)

I have issues remembering lyrics I wrote myself; how silly is that? :)
Last gig with the band, I made a paper with big words on it to put in front of me, hidden behind my monitor. Knowing it is there to help me, actually gives me more comfort than actually reading from it.
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on April 30, 2019, 09:40:27 pm
Good advice, LievenDV. That’s definitely what I would have to do. I’m the same on my own songs too. Justin was telling me that in our Skype session too. Just write on a sheet the main parts and set it where you can see it.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: Barend on April 30, 2019, 11:08:09 pm
Hi Pam

Nice to read more of your background story and to  witness your progress over time.

You have the playing skills and the voice to thoroughly entertain an audience.

Here's wishing you all the best for the next stage of the journey.





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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on May 01, 2019, 05:24:48 pm
Aw thanks Barend. Lovely compliment and it sure makes a person feel good! 


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: CT on May 02, 2019, 02:38:08 am
So nice to get to know you better @pkboo3! I've liked everything I heard you play so far, so keep doing what you're doing. :)

My only suggestion is come out of the bedroom and start playing in shared living space. It's important to weave your playing into the fabric of your family's life. It's who you are, and it will help with everyone's comfort level. It was a huge help for me in my early stages of playing.   
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Post by: max_mue on May 02, 2019, 08:49:37 am
Hey Pam, thanks for sharing your story! :)

Looking forward to your next recording you'll share with us! 

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A big part of me not playing for an audience is that I have poor memory.
There's nothing wrong with bringing the sheet music along and you can pretend that "no one is listening" if that helps (I did the same by closing my eyes) :) Once you'll get a bit more comfortable with the situation you can look up and get some glimpses of your audience :)

Playing for the first time in front of an audience can be a strange thing; Most of us never feel 'ready', neither did I - but if you never dip your feet in these waters you'll never know what it's like :) If it's not your thing it's alright, too - but I highly recommend giving it a chance :)
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on May 02, 2019, 02:38:17 pm
Thank you CT. And I like your suggestion. I may just have to do that. I have sat outside with my husband and played some but may need to make it more direct.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on May 02, 2019, 02:41:59 pm
Thanks Max!  Great advice.  Maybe one day soon... You all are such great encouragers. Love this forum!


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: LBro on May 07, 2019, 09:52:52 pm
Hi Pam,
Nice RC you wrote and not too long, just right. You are out of my same mold in that I can't memorize a song either. I so wish that you were on Reaper so I could show you a metode to write all you need to know on the screen in the DAW. Perhaps if you saw a video I am working on you could transfer the technique to your DAW. I have the guitar chords, lyrics and more right in front of me. They scroll by perfectly timed like Karaoke. I could not play much without this.

I will also share we go on some cruise ships. It is very common the players there have a laptop propped up on the piano, a stand or something and they even take a few seconds out to call up the next song. No one thinks anything of it because it is so common and most realize the player could not possibly know all the songs they can deliver per request (at times) without the laptop there.

So don't worry as there are ways around things through technology and folks accept that you will use the tools needed to entertain them. I am still trying to get MAX on a cruise ship as I think he is ready for such a gig. They give the players a room, all the food and drink they want, plus the trip of a lifetime. They even pay you on top of that. Audiences there are very nice. Almost like the forum. I am not saying this to steer you that way. Rather I am saying it because it is an example of being able to use your aids to creating a good time through music. So keep that in mind as you progress.

Talk about getting long winded.. I ma outta here..
You take care,
LB
Title: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on May 09, 2019, 03:04:39 pm
Wow, LBro. That’s some interesting info. I did have a trial version of REAPER when I first started trying to learn recording, but when I bought my setup, I ended up with Studio One.  Is there a way you can share the video?  Like you said, I could possibly do the same on my DAW.

Awesome on the cruise ship performances. Yeah, Max would be able to do that easily! 

I’ve seen scrolling on the Tabs App. It might could work.

Thanks for the interesting information.


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Title: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on June 18, 2019, 02:25:40 am
Since my last Road Case posting I’ve tried to venture outside a little more. Recently, my neighbors were outside in their backyard & I was in mine. I kept playing. And a couple nights ago, my two grandkids ( 5 & 8 ) asked me to come play for them (in the bedroom where I practice & they were playing... I think my little man just wanted me in there with him). So I went in there with them & played the song that I plan on submitting for the upcoming contest. At first, I felt like they were enjoying it. The 8 year old was dancing/jumping along on the mini-trampoline while I played. But they quickly lost interest. I was going to play “Brand New Key”, but they were gone by then, so I slipped the guitar back in its case and trodded on out behind them.

Anyway, the main reason I’m posting now is to say that tonight I completed Justin’s Beginner’s Songbook (the first one). I started around mid Apr 2015 and completed today - 17 Jun 2019. So yay me!  On to the consolidation work and then gradually to Intermediate.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: batwoman on June 18, 2019, 03:54:22 am
Cheering and clapping for you Pam! Yay you three times round - for playing so others can hear you, for completing BC and for having a song ready for the comp. I hope you're singing, you know how much I love your voice.

Big hugs and high fives sister.  :-* :)
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Post by: DavidP on June 18, 2019, 06:20:18 am
Three cheers and high fives, Pam ... congratulations, what a fabulous milestone.

Delighted to hear that you're busy with a Contest entry.  Like Maggie said, love to listen to you and, even better watch if this one includes a video, both playing and singing is always a treat.

Consolidating is a good idea.  I think I am permanently mixing up with consolidating by learning songs with some new learning, in my case more finger-picking.

Keep on rocking and rolling ...
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Post by: tobyjenner on June 18, 2019, 08:35:04 am
Cool Pam.
Well done on completing the BC, slow and steady wins the day 8)
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Post by: close2u on June 18, 2019, 08:46:52 am
Oh wow.
Congrats Pam - on all fronts.
:)
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Post by: redrhodie on June 18, 2019, 11:59:01 am
Congratulations Pam!

We also played out in our yard a few weeks ago. It was fun and felt good. No one threw any rotten tomatoes. Haha.

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Post by: sairfingers on June 18, 2019, 10:16:31 pm
My only suggestion is come out of the bedroom and start playing in shared living space. It's important to weave your playing into the fabric of your family's life.
Couldn’t agree more. Playing with family listening is a huge step forward. Next one is with friends listening too. I enjoy playing ‘with’ family and friends. Quite different and a lot easier than playing ‘for’ family and friends as that implies you have to ‘entertain’ them.
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on June 19, 2019, 04:22:54 am
Thanks, Maggie. Wow, three cheers!  I appreciate that. And for liking my voice. However, the last two or three I’ve sang have given me trouble. Parts of each one are a bit outside my vocal range. But going to keep trying to push them.


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Title: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on June 19, 2019, 04:31:03 am
Hey David. Thanks!  If I have time and incentive, I may try a video for the contest.

Concerning consolidation,  tonight I was a bit perplexed about where to go next & what to study. I did add another practice bullet in my rotations. ET-303 The Mental Fretboard. Something I have seemed to accidentally overlook until now. I’ve already added practicing E-Shaped Barre chords up and down the fret. From there, not sure yet where to move forward to.  But as you say, I’ll keep on rocking & rolling!


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on June 19, 2019, 04:34:25 am
Thanks Toby. You’ve got that right - slow & steady. Seems I’m pretty much methodical in many cases.


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Post by: pkboo3 on June 19, 2019, 04:35:46 am
Thanks, Richard for stopping in my RC and congratulating me. Means a lot.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on June 19, 2019, 04:37:29 am
Thanks Lynn!  Haha!  Rotten Tomatoes! 


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on June 19, 2019, 04:41:06 am
Thanks sairfingers! That’s a good way of looking at it. Good advice. Playing WITH someone & not FOR them. However, today, I recorded and played for my brother the Happy Birthday Song. I think he was surprised! 


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: CT on June 19, 2019, 05:16:49 am
That's the stuff! You've roped them in. Give them time to chill and dig your vibe. It takes time and you're working to move your skills forward. Onward and upward.
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Post by: DavidP on June 19, 2019, 05:54:09 am
Hey David. Thanks!  If I have time and incentive, I may try a video for the contest.

Concerning consolidation,  tonight I was a bit perplexed about where to go next & what to study. I did add another practice bullet in my rotations. ET-303 The Mental Fretboard. Something I have seemed to accidentally overlook until now. I’ve already added practicing E-Shaped Barre chords up and down the fret. From there, not sure yet where to move forward to.  But as you say, I’ll keep on rocking & rolling!

Pam, I chatted to Justin about moving on post BC during my Skype lesson with him. 

A key piece of advice was not to start up too many different things.  And also not to be too worried about following the path strictly.

In my case, he watched me playing my basic BC finger-picking and encouraged me to look at the advanced folk finger style module ... not being worried that it is "advanced".  Then played some pentatonic scales, spoke about blues.  Could start the blues lead.  During the session I'd played some E and A shape barre chords, which he said were pretty much OK.  So next in Intermediate for me is the 1/16 note strumming and counting. He suggested to pick a couple of things and focus for a few months, give it time to make some progress.

In the end, I started on the finger-picking.  Turns out the thing I never made any progress at all on prior to Justin is now something I really enjoy.  Did try some of the 1/16 note work but wasn't getting into it, so pass on that one for now :)  But that is fine since to a degree, it is my adventure to enjoy as I choose.

So I reckon it comes down to what and how do you want to play.  Maybe in the short, medium and long-term.  Then pick something that helps move you towards that goal. 

I can say learning the E and then A shape barre chords, really opens things up in terms of being able to play more songs and mix things up using more of the fret board, different voicings for chords.  And that is all good without 1/16 note strumming.  I say that since A shape comes after some of the strumming work and maybe one might feel you have to do the strumming first ... I don't think so. 

You could look at the video lessons Justin is posting with Tammy, and follow along.

I want to be able to play that acoustic folk-country-blues style eventually, with a slide.  So getting into finger-picking made sense since it moves me towards being able to play that style of music.  But also want to play simple lead on the electric, so could do blues lead but that would be where the too many focus points could come into play.

And of course, consolidating by playing songs.  And for I like to make the recordings, not aiming for flawless just good enough, as the end result of learning a song.

Gosh, rather a long reply, with maybe more of my experience than is appropriate in your RC.  But hope some of the thoughts may be help you figure things out and make some choices.

And above all, keep it fun.
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Post by: pkboo3 on June 19, 2019, 03:16:23 pm
Thanks CT. Will keep on trying.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on June 19, 2019, 03:25:26 pm
No problem, David. It’s all helpful advice. I figure I will probably head towards the folk finger style but I discovered that I also like songs like “Rather Go Blind” which I believe is Blues. So I may do a little research on that first. I’m just starting on the E shape Barre Chords. Will check on Scales lessons also. I also haven’t done much on 1/16 Strumming. Good advice on following along with Tammy & Justin videos.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: Alex6strings on June 20, 2019, 08:17:31 pm
What a great read your RC is Pam and what a great journey the last 4 years has been for you.   I hadn't felt the need to comment until now as you are all over this guitar playing.    You've made the transition from a regular person to a guitar player and a musician and it shows.

I would love to see you comfortable playing for people because I can tell that it is important to you. So it should be.   Pam, we're the same.  I mean, i'm a man and you're a woman so we're not exactly the same, however we are in that I struggle to play for an audience of 1 or 100 people. 
This may not work for you Pam but it does for me so I hope it helps.

Ok so previously my mindset when I was ever confronted with an audience was one of 'I must impress, or I must give'  My emotions were that of pure excitement and anticipation but my nerves were gone due to the pressure I'd put on myself.    I was talking with a counselor one day and she offered this piece of wisdom.    As the musician, playing for anyone is a privilege, in fact they are giving us an amazing gift by being an audience.   We are the ones on the receiving end when we perform.   As musicians, every opportunity we have to share our music is a gift we should cherish and not let the chance pass.   We wouldn't give a gift back that's been given to us, we'd be excited and thankful.  Pondering this helped me realize what I was really doing and took so much pressure off.  Maybe it will for you to Pam.  :)
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Post by: sairfingers on June 20, 2019, 08:51:05 pm
As musicians, every opportunity we have to share our music is a gift we should cherish and not let the chance pass.
I can see where you’re coming from Alex, but where does the confidence come from when you’re not sure of your ability and skill to entertain? We have to be sure our gift is of an acceptable standard before offering it. Otherwise we’re deluding ourselves that others want to listen.
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Post by: Alex6strings on June 20, 2019, 10:28:22 pm
Absolutely sairfingers,  having the ability and knowing your material back to front is first and foremost.     I would never play for anyone if I wasn't confident in what I was about to play.    Nerves and stage fright affect individuals regardless of their ability or talent.    Performing is a completely separate skill to playing which is not always acknowledged.   You play guitar,  well you can play for us then,  is often the false assumption.   

I should have been clearer in my post.   Absolutely, good preparation and knowing your material is step one.   If then performing or the thought of it is a big problem then perhaps a change in mindset might help.

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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on June 22, 2019, 11:00:18 pm
Alex & sairfingers. All are comments, thoughts, & insights to seriously ponder on. I realize it could be either in different cases. Is it actually fear or the fact I may not completely know the material. For me, it can be both. The song I played for my grand babies, I knew well enough at least for them. Not afraid of my grand babies. But if the adults in the family would have been listening, I wouldn’t have been so confident. My main fear is forgetting the words, chords... & if I bore them.  Anyway, thanks for your comments. They are always helpful and appreciated.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on September 08, 2019, 09:53:44 pm
Well, I’m still working on “Let Her Go”.  That’s why I haven’t posted much besides the contest entries. I’ve watched Justin’s lesson on the song.  I found some tab & printed it off. Some of it I had to use whiteout on to make it as close to Justin’s lesson as I could.  It’s a fast song too. Which I can’t play that fast. The fingerpicking in the beginning of the song is the hardest for me. I don’t want to just strum the whole song so I want to learn it & include the fingerpicking. I don’t know if I will be able to play it to my satisfaction for quite a while; so I decided I will keep trying, but move along with something else in addition.

I’m practicing along with the First module in the Consolidation Course & maybe soon to advance to Module 2. I plan on also buying the Fingerpicking Book.  I’m practicing for the current contest with a song in the Bonus Module of the Beginners Course Book. Not a song I ever would have picked, but it seems my vocals work better on that song than on others I have in my repertoire. It also has a challenging strumming pattern - at least for me. So I’m going with that one. Looking forward to giving it a go.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: DavidP on September 08, 2019, 10:14:00 pm
Good to get an update from you, Pam, and glad yo hear you are still strumming and picking. No big deal how long it takes you to get the songs down...took me months to be adequate with some of the coverx I've posted recently.  Look forward to hearing and hopefully watching your contest entry in due course.

Rock on, as LBro would say   8)
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: CT on September 08, 2019, 10:19:43 pm
It's just music, something we do for fun, it's not a competition! Oh wait, never mind. :)



Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on September 08, 2019, 11:22:04 pm
Thanks David. Appreciate your encouragement.

Clint thanks for the laugh. You caught yourself before you hit send


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: batwoman on September 09, 2019, 01:47:09 am
You're making great progress Pam. Looking forward to your comp entry.
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on October 11, 2019, 01:43:58 pm
Thanks so much, Maggie!


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on March 10, 2020, 02:59:30 pm
Just wanted to mention, the song I did in my earlier posts was “Stuck in the Middle With You”. Which will be one I’m keeping in my Set List/Repertoire. I have finally built an actual Set List which, as of now, I have 10 songs and working on number 11. (Justin said in a video somewhere, that 20 is a good number to have, so I’m going for that - if I can keep that many in my memory bank). I’m trying to keep them varied as to Genres; from one Nursery Rhyme song, to Country, to Pop & my current favorite Genre - I think it’s called Adult Alternative or Indie Pop, maybe?  Plus the two, so far, that I’ve written myself to be added.

I’m still plowing through “Let Her Go”. I’m wanting to memorize it, and include in my Set List, but memorization is my nemesis, and for me, this is a hard one to memorize. Such a challenge.

I’m also working on “Broken Halos”. The Strumming Pattern is fine - except for the Bm. And I still can’t sing and play this one at the same time. I may just do separate tracks just so I can post a song, but want to sing/play together before it can go in the Set List. I had a forum post a while back from Richard, on how to practice that type of song. Here is a copy of that post.

“*Play along with original song, no singing, many times, until you get to “auto-pilot”
*Do the same with singing
*Then bring guitar & singing together playing along with the original
*Then on your own and at a slower speed if necessary”

So that’s why I haven’t posted anything in a while.

Also, back in Sep or Oct 2019, I was invited by Maggie to join in on a song collaboration. Of course I said yes! I’ve always been impressed by Maggie, her vocals, her custom-made guitar , and mostly her personality. I love to read her well-written, witty posts. So along with her, DavidP, LBro, & Oldhead49, we  did a cover of “Mockingbird”. Through illness, other pressing events, and hard work, we “got her done” in Jan 2020!  It was challenging, but a fun song to do. I enjoyed working with this team❤️.

The other thing I wanted to post is that I had been adding a lot of practice items to my practice routines & was rotating them on alternate days, but it was getting too overwhelming. So when Justin’s Practice Assistant came out, I decided to utilize it. It took some time to get it started. I had to rewatch the introduction video about three times to learn it, but I now have three routines created. That may be about one too many, but it really seems to have helped me get back on track a little better and not feel so overwhelmed. I’m sticking a little more closely to the Intermediate Book and letting go of some of the older practice items. Just keeping what I know I need to retain. Anyway, just a little plug for the Practice Assistant.

The only other thing I can think of mentioning now is that I have been practicing the E-Shape & A-Shape Barre Chords and so far am doing better on them. I did figure out though that my left shoulder had been hurting back in early January. At first, I felt like my shoulder joint was popped out of place. But after taking it easy and figuring out it wasn’t the way I hold my blow dryer to dry my hair; that it was most likely how I’m fretting those Barre Chords. So I’m just trying to shift my arm & hand position while playing. My shoulder seems much better now but I still need to be conscious of it and take care of it. Still not back to 100% but much better. I’m sure some of that is Arthritis & age. Which also got me back into a good exercise routine. That has certainly helped! 




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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: close2u on March 10, 2020, 08:07:08 pm
Great update Pam. I am especially impressed with your goal of building that repertoire to 20.
Well done on the 10 and a bit so far.
:)
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on March 11, 2020, 12:35:07 am
Thanks Richard; and thanks on your pointers on how to practice on playing/singing at same time! 


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: batwoman on March 11, 2020, 03:18:55 am
Loved your update Pam, so full of good news and great progress. Your set list is growing and now you're tackling barre chords. Good idea to look at your posture if you're getting pain.

Do you have any plans to go public? I know that's been a scary thing for you in the past. Are you playing for your family? I know the dogs love your playing and singing.

Jealous of my Cedar? Funny. Thanks for the lovely things you've said about me. It was a dream come true to be able to sing with you.

When are we going to hear that honey voice of yours? You know I'm a fan don't you?
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: DavidP on March 11, 2020, 06:26:35 am
Fabulous update, Pam.  Good to hear what you've been up to.  All sounds excellent. 

Like Maggie I look forward to hearing another recording from you.  They are always such a treat.

On memorising ... I also find memorising a challenge.  I managed to memorise a few songs which I performed live.  But I feel my live performance is less stressful and better since I went back to using sheets.  I know the strong sentiment expressed here that one should memorise but in my opinion at my level, as a very much early days hobbyist, if I need song sheets that's just fine and better to up there playing, not held back by a memorising challenge.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on March 11, 2020, 01:30:08 pm
Hey Maggie. Nice to hear from you. No plans on going public other than maybe carrying my guitar out to a park or something and playing on my tailgate. I played Hush Little Baby for Aaron the other day and actually got a real listen and a smile out of him. It helps when I have something actually memorized.

Part of my fear from going more public: Years ago, I got up in front of my supervisory staff on a Quality  Management Project. My voice shook and I could see they were uncomfortable for me. I said I would never do that again!  But if I had someone just walk by or be at a distance, and I wasn’t fully aware of them, I might could continue to play without freezing up.

Haha, not jealous of your Cedar, just impressed & happy for you.




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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on March 11, 2020, 01:37:52 pm
Hey David. Thanks for your encouragement.

Yeah, nothing wrong with having sheet music either. And even though I am working on a Set List, if I had to do Open Mic, I would want that sheet music, because, for me, I’m sure I would freeze up if I didn’t have that bit of security in front of me. But it has been a little freeing to be able to just play without it. Also, I don’t want to just play the same few songs over and over, so I have other songs I can play but don’t have memorized.


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: DavidP on March 11, 2020, 02:18:33 pm
Part of my fear from going more public: Years ago, I got up in front of my supervisory staff on a Quality  Management Project. My voice shook and I could see they were uncomfortable for me. I said I would never do that again!  But if I had someone just walk by or be at a distance, and I wasn’t fully aware of them, I might could continue to play without freezing up.

You probably know I have just over 3 years of guitar here in the Justin Community under my belt.  I also have just under 14 years of Toastmasters under my belt.  I am a much better speaker than performer :)

I have seen many people join Toastmasters and stand up, physically tremble, stutter and stammer and even freeze completely.  And I have seen all these people overcome this and become comfortable speaking to an audience.  Sure not everybody is going to rival King or Kennedy sharing an inspiring nation transforming vision, but they can all share their message and engage an audience.

And just like it is here at Justin Guitar it comes from teaching, practicing and feedback.  And just like that first time we posted a recording or video here, it takes overcoming some fear and anxiety.  That is courage, to act despite the fear, not to have no fear.  You have overcome what ever fear and anxiety (I expect there was some) you had to share your music here.  So you have courage.  If you wanted to perform for people I am sure you can find that way that breaks into small enough steps that you have the confidence and courage to take the next step.  Because courage is courage and I think you have demonstrated it.

And confidence comes from competence and doing which we have all seen many times before.

I think it comes down to what you really want and understanding why you want it.

OK, enough preaching from me :)

Hey David. Thanks for your encouragement.

Yeah, nothing wrong with having sheet music either. And even though I am working on a Set List, if I had to do Open Mic, I would want that sheet music, because, for me, I’m sure I would freeze up if I didn’t have that bit of security in front of me. But it has been a little freeing to be able to just play without it. Also, I don’t want to just play the same few songs over and over, so I have other songs I can play but don’t have memorized.

 ;D

Maybe a little more ...

I have found over time, the more I stand up at home and play the more I am finding greater freedom in my playing, despite using my sheets.  OK, my strumming and singing is no more technically advanced than it was a year ago, rather I think I am just consolidating and becoming better at what I can do.

Justin also said somewhere, maybe on one of those dog walk videos, that if you try something harder and begin to make progress at it then the things you were doing before will seem easier and improve.  I can agree with that, in that I think since I started video recording myself and then doing Open Mics I think I have become more confident.

So just keep rocking along and you'll achieve all you dream and then more that you've not yet dared to dream ...
Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: pkboo3 on March 11, 2020, 02:31:15 pm
Thanks David for the pep talk. One day, I may surprise you! 


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Title: Re: pkboo3’s - Road Case
Post by: DavidP on March 11, 2020, 02:36:58 pm
Thanks David for the pep talk. One day, I may surprise you! 

Won't be surprised, just happy for you. 8)