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Title: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Omar on October 08, 2018, 10:18:15 am
Time is passing rapidly. Days are flying away. Stay connected to your guitar, don't let go of it ;)





This week's jam/challenge is in B minor. Click here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/l08mju94d7yfsjw/Mild%20Bluesy%20Groove%20Backing%20Track%20in%20Bm.mp3?dl=1) to download a shortened version of the track.

Chords progression: https://chordify.net/chords/mild-bluesy-groove-backing-track-in-bm-sebastien-zunino

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: CT on October 08, 2018, 03:05:56 pm
Daow-wow--chicka-chicka-boom-boom
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 08, 2018, 07:52:57 pm
This is an awesome track to play over! While I had my LesPaul in my hands I recorded my take on this right away with the Marshall sound dialed in on the GT-100. This is just me xx--xx away with no regard to pauses or letting the music breath… Just me having a blast ;D
I played throughout the track and I may sound like I get a little stuck in the end. Whatever, give it a spin.

https://soundcloud.com/jesper-j-rgensen-11/mild-bluesy-bm-mixdown/s-8tWeS
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Omar on October 08, 2018, 08:09:02 pm
That was awesome Jesper! I really like it! Who cares whether you let it breathe, it sounded great the way you played it. Now I’m craving a guitar with humbuckers ;D good vibes!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 08, 2018, 08:18:27 pm
That was awesome Jesper! I really like it! Who cares whether you let it breathe, it sounded great the way you played it. Now I’m craving a guitar with humbuckers ;D good vibes!

Oh boy! No humbuckers? Omar, you need to set that straight.
But thanks for listening and your positive words.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 08, 2018, 08:58:05 pm
Excellent, Jesper, that sounded fantastic all the way through.  Great tones, tasty phrases and more than enough breathing IMO :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 08, 2018, 09:01:19 pm
Excellent, Jesper, that sounded fantastic all the way through.  Great tones, tasty phrases and more than enough breathing IMO :)

Thanks David. It was a fun groove to play over. Funny how those little melody lines pop up almost by themselves.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 08, 2018, 09:05:38 pm
Thanks David. It was a fun groove to play over. Funny how those little melody lines pop up almost by themselves.

LOL ... looking forward to the day when lines pop up by themselves :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 08, 2018, 09:07:15 pm
LOL ... looking forward to the day when lines pop up by themselves :)

It'll come in due time. Just keep at it.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Omar on October 08, 2018, 10:41:02 pm
Oh boy! No humbuckers? Omar, you need to set that straight.
But thanks for listening and your positive words.

I have it first on the list. However, there have been some changes lately, a Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 36 popped up from nowhere lol 😬
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 08, 2018, 11:26:38 pm
This is an awesome track to play over! While I had my LesPaul in my hands I recorded my take on this right away with the Marshall sound dialed in on the GT-100. This is just me xx--xx away with no regard to pauses or letting the music breath… Just me having a blast ;D
I played throughout the track and I may sound like I get a little stuck in the end. Whatever, give it a spin.

https://soundcloud.com/jesper-j-rgensen-11/mild-bluesy-bm-mixdown/s-8tWeS

If I can sound like that for 7 and a half minutes, I’d gladly go to the crossroads and sign up! Mind blown! That tone just makes my GAS for a Les Paul explode!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: oldhead49 on October 09, 2018, 05:17:23 am
Joerfe, Good vibes to you, not only for the duration and staying with it but for producing a cool improv.  Great sound. 


Here's my attempt.  I call it out of my head - and really out of my element.  Forgive me.  Well, it is just for fun.  Right? ;D

https://app.box.com/s/ex6cnovz3yegt4dxs36ralyl06gnskr7

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 09, 2018, 05:44:23 am
Here's my attempt.  I call it out of my head - and really out of my element.  Forgive me.  Well, it is just for fun.  Right? ;D

https://app.box.com/s/ex6cnovz3yegt4dxs36ralyl06gnskr7

No need to beg forgiveness, Dave ... your characteristic fine phrasing and playing dressed up with some wild tones and effects ... sounded like FUN in capital letters to me.

Maybe it was my playback environment but sounded like maybe a few moments with some clipping on the recording or rendering ... if not my playback or poor hearing then were some of the meters up into the red zone at times? 

If that is the case, then what I am now doing once I am happy with the level of each track in the mix is pulling it all down to make sure no red lights, then I put a limiter on the master to lift up the final volume while making sure there is not excessive limiting taking place to retain dynamic range.

Once again, thanks for putting this up that is out of your element.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: oldhead49 on October 09, 2018, 04:10:20 pm
No need to beg forgiveness, Dave ... your characteristic fine phrasing and playing dressed up with some wild tones and effects ... sounded like FUN in capital letters to me.

Maybe it was my playback environment but sounded like maybe a few moments with some clipping on the recording or rendering ... if not my playback or poor hearing then were some of the meters up into the red zone at times? 

If that is the case, then what I am now doing once I am happy with the level of each track in the mix is pulling it all down to make sure no red lights, then I put a limiter on the master to lift up the final volume while making sure there is not excessive limiting taking place to retain dynamic range.

Once again, thanks for putting this up that is out of your element.

David, Thanks for the comments.  No, the meters weren't up in the red - they were exploding, throwing red lava-like dbs.  Haha.  I did one take of this that I really liked as I was playing, got done and realized I didn't click on Input 2 for my guitar.  It was getting late, so slapped down this second track, saw the exploding faders and was going to put a limiter on the master, got in a hurry and just forgot to do it.  Oh, well, stuff happens.  My intent was to make something kind of "down and dirty sounding".   I guess in that respect I succeeded.  :o
You mentioned the characteristic phrasing.  Man, I'd like to get away from that somehow.  It seems, at least at this stage, I find things that kind of work and keep falling back on them.  So beware!  It's kind of a crutch in these improv things where you're trying to do a one-take bit, put something "new" in and then don't know quite where to go and what will fit, so I end up falling back on those phrases.  I'm hoping more practice and experience will broaden my horizons in that respect.  No matter what the final sound, it was definitely FUN!  Kind of different than what I'm used to playing.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 09, 2018, 04:19:19 pm
David, Thanks for the comments.  No, the meters weren't up in the red - they were exploding, throwing red lava-like dbs.  Haha.  I did one take of this that I really liked as I was playing, got done and realized I didn't click on Input 2 for my guitar.  It was getting late, so slapped down this second track, saw the exploding faders and was going to put a limiter on the master, got in a hurry and just forgot to do it.  Oh, well, stuff happens.  My intent was to make something kind of "down and dirty sounding".   I guess in that respect I succeeded.  :o

You mentioned the characteristic phrasing.  Man, I'd like to get away from that somehow.  It seems, at least at this stage, I find things that kind of work and keep falling back on them.  So beware!  It's kind of a crutch in these improv things where you're trying to do a one-take bit, put something "new" in and then don't know quite where to go and what will fit, so I end up falling back on those phrases.  I'm hoping more practice and experience will broaden my horizons in that respect.  No matter what the final sound, it was definitely FUN!  Kind of different than what I'm used to playing.

LMAO ... not a problem at all.  I just wanted to check my hearing as much as anything.  And I ought to have known that you are on top of limiters and all that jazz (excuse the pun).

In terms of characteristic ... just to be more clear from my side ... the characteristic belonged to the word fine rather than phrasing.  I don't get a sense when I listen to you that you are a limited trick pony with a few licks and riffs that you always use.  I was rather trying to comment on your fine feel and phrasing, which is just what I expect when I listen to you play.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: oldhead49 on October 09, 2018, 06:02:01 pm
LMAO ... not a problem at all.  I just wanted to check my hearing as much as anything.  And I ought to have known that you are on top of limiters and all that jazz (excuse the pun).

In terms of characteristic ... just to be more clear from my side ... the characteristic belonged to the word fine rather than phrasing.  I don't get a sense when I listen to you that you are a limited trick pony with a few licks and riffs that you always use.  I was rather trying to comment on your fine feel and phrasing, which is just what I expect when I listen to you play.

David, I got the "characteristic fine phrasing" and appreciate that feedback.  However, I do have certain licks and phrases that I rely on and are sort of go-to for me and are characteristic of my playing.   I'm aware that I do it and would just like to expand, I guess I could say, my vocabulary.  And it's something to watch out for, I think, as we develop. I went back through some of my improvs (some posted, some not) and there were certain elements that seemed to keep popping up and sounding very much the same.  I guess to a certain extent that's inevitable as we are learning and growing, using things that are comfortable to us and familiar.  I just don't want to get stuck in a hole and want to make others aware; thus the "so beware". 

As far as the faders, limiters, etc. -- other than this one, of course -- I've been really trying to keep everything at a green level.  It really does make things sound better and it's a whole lot easier when developing the final sound.  (Thanks LBro)  Of course you already are aware of those things.  Thanks again for the great feedback.

EDIT:  Your hearing is fine! ;D
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 09, 2018, 09:28:39 pm
If I can sound like that for 7 and a half minutes, I’d gladly go to the crossroads and sign up! Mind blown! That tone just makes my GAS for a Les Paul explode!

Made me kinda blush right there.... thank you very much.
It was one of those days where it all came together at the right time.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 09, 2018, 09:33:10 pm
Joerfe, Good vibes to you, not only for the duration and staying with it but for producing a cool improv.  Great sound. 


Here's my attempt.  I call it out of my head - and really out of my element.  Forgive me.  Well, it is just for fun.  Right? ;D

https://app.box.com/s/ex6cnovz3yegt4dxs36ralyl06gnskr7

Thank you!
And it might have been out of your comfort zone, but I like your track, both the effect and the phrasing. Bends a little out of tune, but very nice playing. You Seem to play pretty tight on this one.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: CT on October 10, 2018, 05:44:52 am
Just hanging out with some good friends, having a cold beverage and Groovin' In The Garden (https://soundcloud.com/user-35496968/groovin-in-the-garden).
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 10, 2018, 06:11:10 am
Just hanging out with some good friends, having a cold beverage and Groovin' In The Garden (https://soundcloud.com/user-35496968/groovin-in-the-garden).

Most enjoyable, Clint, a different slightly more jazzy feel and tone to this one.

And must say, love your titles and images on SoundCloud.  Like those little extras.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Fox Cunning on October 10, 2018, 11:24:37 am
This is an awesome track to play over! While I had my LesPaul in my hands I recorded my take on this right away with the Marshall sound dialed in on the GT-100. This is just me xx--xx away with no regard to pauses or letting the music breath… Just me having a blast ;D
I played throughout the track and I may sound like I get a little stuck in the end. Whatever, give it a spin.

https://soundcloud.com/jesper-j-rgensen-11/mild-bluesy-bm-mixdown/s-8tWeS
Very well done, Jesper! 7 minutes of goodness.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 10, 2018, 01:12:00 pm
Very well done, Jesper! 7 minutes of goodness.

Thanks Fox
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: CT on October 10, 2018, 01:55:29 pm
@Joerfe, there is something about your rig that sounds great when you really lay into it with a heavy hand. Maybe a pedal or amp sim with an attack setting? Who knows, sounds great when you do that thing. Nice offering.

@oldhead49, that's just next level nasty. Really great stuff. That was the most fun I've had all day. I've got my eye on you, man. You pulled that one out of the depths of who knows where. Loved it! 8)
 
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Fox Cunning on October 10, 2018, 04:51:35 pm
No, the meters weren't up in the red - they were exploding, throwing red lava-like dbs.  Haha.
Sometimes you just have to let it scream 8)
Good stuff, good stuff.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 10, 2018, 05:49:53 pm
@Joerfe, there is something about your rig that sounds great when you really lay into it with a heavy hand. Maybe a pedal or amp sim with an attack setting? Who knows, sounds great when you do that thing. Nice offering.

It is basically just a Les Paul (neck pickup) through my Boss GT-100 board emulating a Marshall 1959 with gain at 1 o'clock.
A little Reverb to taste.

An LP through Marshall has always been a winning combination.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 10, 2018, 11:58:25 pm
@oldhead and @CT... Very contrasting tracks that I listened to.

Dave: your improv is something I'd never have expected from you. That said, you managed to sound good even when your guitar was exploding!

CT: Very clean sounds. I'd actually have expected that too cuz your guitar has a 1000 voices! Very classy, serene feel you had going there. Kinda had a Spanish guitar feel at times.

Both were good in their own ways :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 11, 2018, 01:04:18 am
I call this "If BB and I practised scales together"

https://soundcloud.com/balamuthiah/if-bb-and-i-practiced-scales-together

Edit: I must say I was very sloppy in this one. I just consider it practice with exploring pick up positions and using the wah pedal. :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 11, 2018, 03:10:41 pm
I call this "If BB and I practised scales together"

https://soundcloud.com/balamuthiah/if-bb-and-i-practiced-scales-together

Edit: I must say I was very sloppy in this one. I just consider it practice with exploring pick up positions and using the wah pedal. :)

Bala, I guess hearing the sloppiness is beyond me :)  I thought you did well on the phrasing on this one, feels like you were giving phrases and notes more space than I think on some of your other leads.  The tones were also tasty.  Well done !!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 11, 2018, 03:14:03 pm
Bala, I guess hearing the sloppiness is beyond me :)  I thought you did well on the phrasing on this one, feels like you were giving phrases and notes more space than I think on some of your other leads.  The tones were also tasty.  Well done !!

Haha thank you David. There were a few places where I messed up the note. It was a lovely backing track and couldn’t resist but do it by channeling BB. :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 11, 2018, 04:37:53 pm
I call this "If BB and I practised scales together"

https://soundcloud.com/balamuthiah/if-bb-and-i-practiced-scales-together

Edit: I must say I was very sloppy in this one. I just consider it practice with exploring pick up positions and using the wah pedal. :)

You did a good job on both bending notes and vibrato. Especially the first half.
Playing solo through a whole 2+ minutes is hard on the concentration. Nice to hear the wah. I got a sudden urge to use mine, which I usually cannot when playing in the Country band.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 11, 2018, 04:42:09 pm
You did a good job on both bending notes and vibrato. Especially the first half.
Playing solo through a whole 2+ minutes is hard on the concentration. Nice to hear the wah. I got a sudden urge to use mine, which I usually cannot when playing in the Country band.

Thank you Joerfe. You should definitely pull your wah pedal out and give it go! Would actually be interesting to know what it would sound like on a country song now that you mention it. Has there been a country song that used the wah? You'd be the first if there isn't! :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Joerfe on October 11, 2018, 04:49:20 pm
Thank you Joerfe. You should definitely pull your wah pedal out and give it go! Would actually be interesting to know what it would sound like on a country song now that you mention it. Has there been a country song that used the wah? You'd be the first if there isn't! :)

Well, I'm not playing a lot of lead in that band. Our other guitarist is this seasoned player who knows all the tricky licks, so I'm feasting off of his playing learning a lot on the rhythm playing side.
But as I play through a GT-100 on my Katana there is a build-in pedal I use for volume, but it re-configures to a wah if I want to.
Guess I'll give it a go one of these days.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 11, 2018, 04:51:52 pm
You definitely should! Don't forget to let us listen to what it sounds like either! :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: CT on October 11, 2018, 04:57:59 pm

@DavidP, thanks for the listen! Yeah, I have to go where my brain takes me. This one was a happy place, which is my own garden. Since you didn't ask, here's how it worked out for me:

Quote from: CT's Brain

1st listen: Daow-wow--chicka-chicka-boom-boom -> didn’t stick
2nd listen: Boom-Boom-Bah-Chick-a-Chick-a-Boom-Boom -> Closer but didn’t stick
3rd listen: Boom-Boom-Bah—Groovin’-in-the-garden -> Stuck!

So why didn't I play that out in a melody line instead of just Groovin' over the whole track? I found a riff that I liked so my ears took over and I shut off my brain too soon! Lesson learned. 8)

@Balamuthiah, I almost always scratchpad with an acoustic first before I finalize the direction I'm going to go. If I like it, I stay acoustic. I'll take jazzy.

Your track had a really nice edge to it, you have come a long way matey! I'm giving all your stuff two listens lately. You are on a roll. Liked the wah section most of all. I felt like the other sections needed more sustain on some of the notes, the tone and vibrato were both very good. You are on the come!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 11, 2018, 05:34:45 pm
@Balamuthiah, I almost always scratchpad with an acoustic first before I finalize the direction I'm going to go. If I like it, I stay acoustic. I'll take jazzy.

Ah I get it now! That's some good advice there. I usually start with my default tone and then switch around on the DAW. For this one, I just chose to go direct. Guitar-wah-fuzz-DAW amp. No other effects. I liked the sound of it.

Your track had a really nice edge to it, you have come a long way matey! I'm giving all your stuff two listens lately. You are on a roll. Liked the wah section most of all. I felt like the other sections needed more sustain on some of the notes, the tone and vibrato were both very good. You are on the come!

Thank you for the listen and positive comments on this one. I give all of your stuff at least two listens myself. So many things I learn from you actually. I'm working on sustain. Sometimes the higher notes don't really stay. I'd really like to take my guitar out for a setup but can't do it with my financial situation. I liked the wah section too. Can't really tell why I chose to add it though. Just gave the backing track a listen and it had a BB tone written all over it and so the immediate decision was to do it his way. I kinda wanted to experiment with the pickups so I did that and it kinda sounded like two different persons (the bridge pickup sounded a lot more like me for some reason). Hence the title for the improv. Maybe the wah section is me too :D
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Omar on October 11, 2018, 05:55:02 pm
I call this "If BB and I practised scales together"

https://soundcloud.com/balamuthiah/if-bb-and-i-practiced-scales-together

Edit: I must say I was very sloppy in this one. I just consider it practice with exploring pick up positions and using the wah pedal. :)

I just listened briefly to your take. It sounds like the Thrill is Gone. I’ll listen to all takes later this evening. Thank you everyone for keeping this alive :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 11, 2018, 06:04:10 pm
No problem Omar and yes thrill is gone is in Bm too. That’s the reason why I decided to do it that way. :) and these challenges are addictive and fun! So this will stay alive I’m sure :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 11, 2018, 06:06:15 pm
Also listen to ghetto woman. That’s an inspiration too. Some fancy chords on that one!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 12, 2018, 05:32:00 pm
And here's my go at it ...

https://soundcloud.com/david-preece-24770685/weekly-jam-3 (https://soundcloud.com/david-preece-24770685/weekly-jam-3)

Found this one to be the hardest of the 3 so far.  Couple of places where fingers and pick got disconnected and lost but just carried on and got back into as quickly as possible.

Great fun again

Thanks for posting, Omar
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: CT on October 12, 2018, 09:37:11 pm
Good stuff, @DavidP! Tone and sustain were spot on. You kept your feet under you and stayed with your vision.

I wanted to hear some hammer-ons and such -- take a few chances with some clichés or multi-note playing. You did speed up a bit toward the end so that was a great addition. All in all it was a very fine offering!
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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 12, 2018, 09:44:32 pm
Good stuff, @DavidP! Tone and sustain were spot on. You kept your feet under you and stayed with your vision.

I wanted to hear some hammer-ons and such -- take a few chances with some clichés or multi-note playing. You did speed up a bit toward the end so that was a great addition. All in all it was a very fine offering!

Thanks very much, Clint, appreciate the encouragement. Love the animated images :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 12, 2018, 11:35:15 pm
Third time I’m trying to post this. I listened to the solo twice before I went back into work after lunch. CT said the exact same things I had in my mind. Hammer ons and pull offs or flick offs are worth exploring. I heard a hammer on once actually not sure if it was intentional. You did a slide at the end, stick some in between notes for smoother transitions. Tone and sustain were excellent. Since you’re playing clean next step would be to explore melodic transitions. I’m sure you can do it :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: oldhead49 on October 13, 2018, 05:01:47 am
Just hanging out with some good friends, having a cold beverage and Groovin' In The Garden (https://soundcloud.com/user-35496968/groovin-in-the-garden).
I want to come hang in your garden CT. I can picture laying back with my iced tea, just groovn to this and taking it easy.  Nice one.


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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: oldhead49 on October 13, 2018, 05:08:56 am
I call this "If BB and I practised scales together"

https://soundcloud.com/balamuthiah/if-bb-and-i-practiced-scales-together

Edit: I must say I was very sloppy in this one. I just consider it practice with exploring pick up positions and using the wah pedal. :)
I liked this Bala. Nice tone in the start. I would have liked more variation with the wah. Sounded like you were keeping time with it a bit.  Good job, but I know you’ve got more in you. I say that in an a positive way.


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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: CT on October 13, 2018, 05:11:46 am
Thanks @oldhead49! Fall is a very nice time here, not such a blast furnace of heat. Right now I'm watching and listening to the rain -- it's been such a long time! Pomegranates are coming in right now.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: oldhead49 on October 13, 2018, 05:15:19 am
And here's my go at it ...

https://soundcloud.com/david-preece-24770685/weekly-jam-3 (https://soundcloud.com/david-preece-24770685/weekly-jam-3)

Found this one to be the hardest of the 3 so far.  Couple of places where fingers and pick got disconnected and lost but just carried on and got back into as quickly as possible.

Great fun again

Thanks for posting, Omar
Didn’t sound hard for you David. You’ve got some good things going on there. I like your sound on this and sustain, and was that a slide I heard at the end?  Honestly, it’s coming along for you and the more you do these types of improv you’ll be surprised at how much you’ll learn and how it will come more naturally for you. Keep up the good work.


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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: oldhead49 on October 13, 2018, 05:18:31 am
Thanks @oldhead49! Fall is a very nice time here, not such a blast furnace of heat. Right now I'm watching and listening to the rain -- it's been such a long time! Pomegranates are coming in right now.
Rain??? We had 7 inches last night in 4 1/2 hours. Not good for sitting in the garden. The leading edge of that hurricane that hit Florida went dead overtop of us. It was a loud night. And I’m in Maryland.

Thanks for the comments on my attempt. I really don’t know where it came from, but it was fun.

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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: oldhead49 on October 13, 2018, 05:25:10 am
Bala and Jesper and Fox, thanks for the listen and comments.  My wife thought the low growl was me trying to sing. 🤪. Just my guitar”screaming and exploding.
Sorry too for late responses. I’ve got house guests for a week. Time is tight.


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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 13, 2018, 09:30:26 am
Third time I’m trying to post this. I listened to the solo twice before I went back into work after lunch. CT said the exact same things I had in my mind. Hammer ons and pull offs or flick offs are worth exploring. I heard a hammer on once actually not sure if it was intentional. You did a slide at the end, stick some in between notes for smoother transitions. Tone and sustain were excellent. Since you’re playing clean next step would be to explore melodic transitions. I’m sure you can do it :)

Thanks Bala, appreciate the listen, positive feedback and encouragement to push on. 

Hammer-on, pull-off, slides, bends, vibrato ... all in my dreams of being able to play electric blues lead, Neil Young extended rambling solos and while exposing the extent of my ambition  ;D, the slide is sitting in my drawer to play acoustic country-blues on my resonator in open tunings.  Just all in time as I continue to learn :)

Now, a question ... what do you mean by "melodic transitions"?

I can say on this I ventured forth a little more bravely and wandered up play with the notes in a little box between frets 10-12 on strings 1-3, using a walk balk back down from there to the comfort of minor pentatonic position 1 in the turnaround.  Is that what you mean ... playing notes from other places on the fretboard?

And the hammer-on was probably just the pick being slow to the party, especially if followed by the note being repeated ... I'll say my subconscious took over and meant it to be a hammer-on :)

Didn’t sound hard for you David. You’ve got some good things going on there. I like your sound on this and sustain, and was that a slide I heard at the end?  Honestly, it’s coming along for you and the more you do these types of improv you’ll be surprised at how much you’ll learn and how it will come more naturally for you. Keep up the good work.


Thanks Dave.  I won't say how long I messed around before pressing the record button and this was take 4 as I recall ... close enough that I thought I trying again to avoid the flubs may not get an overall better take ... plus having one eye on the time to be able to get it posted before dinner :)

Yes, it was an intentional slide to end the piece, perhaps slid early and not sustained long enough at the end to get it matched well with the end of the backing track.  Getting the timing of the start and speed of the slide to arrive on the note at the right moment, tricky indeed but of course all with time and practice :)

The other thing I tried to use on this one was a couple of "ascending in thirds" runs to move from phrases on strings 3 & 4 to strings 1 & 2. 

As you say, the more one plays and experiments the more comfortable it becomes to play smoothly and the more I'll be able to hear the backing track, chords and drums to be in harmony, other than the turnaround portion, this one felt like I was playing phrases in key but not necessarily always hitting notes in a phrase to highlight the chord progression. 

That said, I am feeling satisfied with progress made and delighted to now be participating in these challenges.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Omar on October 13, 2018, 11:18:18 am
I am sorry I haven't got the time to listen to everyone's take. I'll do so the soonest possible.

Here's a take on the fly, I hope you enjoy it.

https://soundcloud.com/omarmt/wj3-bm

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 13, 2018, 12:34:48 pm
Rain??? We had 7 inches last night in 4 1/2 hours. Not good for sitting in the garden. The leading edge of that hurricane that hit Florida went dead overtop of us. It was a loud night. And I’m in Maryland.

Thanks for the comments on my attempt. I really don’t know where it came from, but it was fun.

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Oh we had thunderstorms here and winds about 60mph. I’m in Alabama.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 13, 2018, 12:48:57 pm
Thanks Bala, appreciate the listen, positive feedback and encouragement to push on. 

Hammer-on, pull-off, slides, bends, vibrato ... all in my dreams of being able to play electric blues lead, Neil Young extended rambling solos and while exposing the extent of my ambition  ;D, the slide is sitting in my drawer to play acoustic country-blues on my resonator in open tunings.  Just all in time as I continue to learn :)

Now, a question ... what do you mean by "melodic transitions"?

I can say on this I ventured forth a little more bravely and wandered up play with the notes in a little box between frets 10-12 on strings 1-3, using a walk balk back down from there to the comfort of minor pentatonic position 1 in the turnaround.  Is that what you mean ... playing notes from other places on the fretboard?

And the hammer-on was probably just the pick being slow to the party, especially if followed by the note being repeated ... I'll say my subconscious took over and meant it to be a hammer-on :)


Ah I’ll start with melodic transitions. What I meant by that is when you move from note to note, if you picked a note and then moved to the next note and picked that, it’s going to sound like two individual notes. But say you hammered on to the next note or slid to it. It’s going to have that quick extra note that creates a musical effect. Doing it every now and then will make it sound less like playing scales. I tend to do that myself.
Your box movement is called a melodic pattern I think by Justin. That’s again a good thing to try as it lets you know relationships between notes at different places in the scale.
Since you subconsciously did the hammer on and slide, why not practice them to make it conscious? :) it’s all fun in the end
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on October 13, 2018, 01:20:01 pm
I am sorry I haven't got the time to listen to everyone's take. I'll do so the soonest possible.

Here's a take on the fly, I hope you enjoy it.

https://soundcloud.com/omarmt/wj3-bm

I did indeed, Omar. 

Two things struck me in particular.  Firstly, you played your first notes before the first backing track chord, creative idea.  Secondly, that little passage where you played some really, really short notes, which sounded pretty good.  Overall good feel and tone.

From a production perspective, it sounded to me like you were playing under the backing track rather than over it, so maybe might benefit by raising the level on your solo a little.

Well played.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: CT on October 13, 2018, 03:11:33 pm
@Omar, dude! That sounded great. Might be one of your best efforts. The first thing that jumped out at me was that you gave it some space to breathe. And then I felt you stretching musically with nice and timely vibrato, bends, and 16th note playing. I can't speak to mixes and such, I use headphones and if I can hear everything, it's all good. It was all good to me. Rock on Brotha!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Fox Cunning on October 13, 2018, 03:27:05 pm
My wife thought the low growl was me trying to sing.
Personally, I'd take that as a compliment :D
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Balamuthiah on October 13, 2018, 09:01:30 pm
I am sorry I haven't got the time to listen to everyone's take. I'll do so the soonest possible.

Here's a take on the fly, I hope you enjoy it.

https://soundcloud.com/omarmt/wj3-bm

Enjoyable improv there Omar! Thank you. How did you do that bit at 1:45?
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Omar on October 13, 2018, 10:13:33 pm
@oldhead49 unique and unexpected take. I’m not an expert when it comes to effects; was that phraser? Very inspiring improv, thank you for sharing it :)

@CT I listened to it while I was having my coffee in my little garden. You were able to reflect the atmosphere into music. Great job Clint :)

@Balamuthiah As I said before, it felt like BB’s the Thrill is Gone, you’ve nailed it in the intro. Using the wah was an nice addition. Well done :)

@DavidP great job my friend! Keeping up with the beat, rhythm and changes is 90% of the improv. Next time, try adding some hammers-on, bends, vibrato and slides, best way to nail them is practicing them while improving. I don’t remember I assigned time to practice techniques only. Keep it up David :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: Omar on October 13, 2018, 10:21:10 pm
@DavdP @CT @Balamuthiah thank you so much for listening and your kind words. It looks like I Excel when I’m under pressure lol. My licks library is poor, in fact, it’s empty. I even have forgotten the ones I learned from J’s pentatonic.

David, mixing is a new area I have to explore. My knowledge is limited to adjusting volume and panning ;D I Rally can’t dedicate time to watching videos and start a new adventure. Eventually, I’ll have to learn it.

@Balamuthiah I just kept on strumming the same note/string up and down rapidly.

Thank you so much my friend :)

Who wants to lead the show next week? ;)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: b1rdland on September 06, 2021, 07:51:26 pm
Another Improv. The backing track was a bit busy for me TBH, I had a stab though and there's a couple of bits I like. Timing is a touch off here and there. https://soundcloud.com/steve-cardus/improv-2
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: batwoman on September 07, 2021, 01:55:49 am
Another Improv. The backing track was a bit busy for me TBH, I had a stab though and there's a couple of bits I like. Timing is a touch off here and there. https://soundcloud.com/steve-cardus/improv-2

Gorgeous tones Steve, I've missed you and your music. Thankyou for this.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DavidP on September 07, 2021, 06:02:00 am
Love your tone, the way you phrase, and those bendy-sounding, double-stops (I think) that you throw in every now and then, Steve. So good to be listening to you play again.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: DarrellW on September 07, 2021, 10:32:01 am
Very nice Steve, keep them coming 👍👍👍
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: b1rdland on September 08, 2021, 11:34:46 am
Mrs Bat,  DP, Darrell, thanks you’re all very kind  ;D
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0008 - Mild Bluesy Groove Backing Track in Bm
Post by: batwoman on September 09, 2021, 12:49:02 am
Mrs Bat,  DP, Darrell, thanks you’re all very kind  ;D

.... and you're very talented  :)