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Title: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Loefgren on April 10, 2018, 09:34:48 pm
Hello! I have participated with this song earlier but this is a new version recorded yesterday. I don't think the rules says anything about using the same song twice? When I played it didn't feel very good but when listen to it doesn't sound so bad so wanted to compete.

Recorded with built in mic on a Macbook Air and done some EQ:ing in Garageband.

https://soundcloud.com/johan-loefgren-633486415/live-forever-2018-ver1
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: DavidP on April 10, 2018, 09:56:03 pm
Johan,

You're sounding relaxed and fluent performing this song...I know you love Oasis and it shows in the feel you have for this song.

Well played.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: MrBumble on April 10, 2018, 10:01:03 pm
Good performance. You have made me go back to listen to Oasis again.

Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Bytron08 on April 10, 2018, 11:13:58 pm
I enjoyed it! I can tell you like Oasis alot great band. You sound like them at times.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Loefgren on April 11, 2018, 09:34:53 pm
Thanks David, Byron and Mr Bumble.

Byron , no you're just being kind or you need to check your ears  ;D  but if you think I sound like Oasis even for a tiny part of this song I am very happy.

I think this is the first of my recordings where I feel good about the performance. Since playing isn't so d-mn hard anymore it so much easier to focus on the performance. Sure there are lots of thing to improve, strumming can be much smoother, some chords and changes are not clean at all, dynamics is pretty much non-existent and i wanna sing in a higher key but I think it sounds decent enough. Also I have practiced this song A LOT so its on auto-pilot.

Good performance. You have made me go back to listen to Oasis again.

Thanks for posting.

Wow thats a good thing if this one made you listen to Oasis again. Thanks.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: batwoman on April 12, 2018, 01:11:56 am
Great to see your progress Johan. You sound so much more relaxed and real. You're projecting your voice, singing on pitch and there's real character and mood. Strumming was the most fluent I've heard from you. You're beginning to create your own musical style wha hooo.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: kontenda on April 12, 2018, 12:18:56 pm
That was really good - liked the reverb on your voice. As others have said - you sang this really well. Guitar sounds great - clean and a nice subtle sound to it. That is something I am still having trouble with. Well done - liked it.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: pkboo3 on April 12, 2018, 12:19:55 pm
Good job on this one too. With each song I hear improvement. I need to check out some Oasis. I’ve not listened to them that I recall.


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Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Loefgren on April 13, 2018, 12:10:18 pm
Thanks batwoman, Pam and kontenda. Means a lot to me that you liked it.

Batwoman: Gives confidence that you think singing is on pitch. I wanna sing a bit higher though, but cant do that yet, working on that.

Kontenda: Subtle strumming, yes that is exactly what I am trying to achieve but I have struggled badly with strumming for my first 2 years as a guitar student.

Pam, yes if you havent listened to Oasis you should do that. You can start with the Stop The Clocks Collection from 2006. Cool that my cover makes you wanna listen to them.

The eq:ing in garageband really made both the guitar and vocals sound better. Need to look more into that but my #1 focus is still on learn how to play properly.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: DavidP on April 13, 2018, 01:04:44 pm
The eq:ing in garageband really made both the guitar and vocals sound better. Need to look more into that but my #1 focus is still on learn how to play properly.
I find EQ quite difficult.  Most effective move that I can hear make a difference is a high pass filter to cut the lowest frequencies.  I set that in by starting in the low mids and moving down to the point where it sounds good ... full bodied.  Almost can't hear the difference but I think it takes out some of the possible woofiness.

What might also work is to try add just a wee bit of reverb and delay.  Again just enough that it sounds better but not so much that you can hear obvious reverb and delay (unless of course that is what you want for the song).  I've found that it sounds a lot more natural, warmer than the totally dry sound, specifically the vocal.

And maybe also just a little gentle compression to raise up the level of the quietest moments.  Again I find this tough to judge...is it really better or just sounding better because it is louder overall.  A trick with compression is to try not to change the overall loudness.

All very tricky but fun to play with while continuing to learn to play.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Matek on April 14, 2018, 08:25:57 am
Well done Johan.
You sound like you are getting more comfortable every time you post something new

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Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: phx1973 on April 14, 2018, 09:43:15 pm
Excellent, Johan. I really liked the nice clean guitar playing. Also, good job with singing - in tune and in rhythm. Very evident from listening that you are a big Oasis fan.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: redrhodie on April 15, 2018, 12:23:39 am
Sounds great, Johan. It's come a long way.

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Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: john256 on April 16, 2018, 11:18:28 am
Would you mind posting the link to your previous version for comparison?

It sounds fairly confident to me though the vocal processing is a bit odd - is that deliberate or just the limitation of the built-in mic?

I have thought myself about re-doing songs a year after first submitting them, to see the difference. Maybe I will next time round. But then hearing this makes me want to do this, it's such a great song!
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Loefgren on April 16, 2018, 12:05:59 pm
Thanks Matek, Lynn, Tosh and John.

Matek: Not sure I feel comfortable yet, but I am glad it sounds comfortable to you.

Lynn: Thanks, still hard to sing and play at the same time, but at least its getting less hard over time.

Tosh: Really happy you can hear my love for Oasis through this performance. Thanks for the nice words about the guitar playing as well.

John: I am not sure about the vocal processing. I know very little about this. Probably my processing  have affected the vocals. Maybe added to much reverb. And yeah its a great song. Would love to hear you do it.

Here's my earlier version. I think the main difference is in the earlier version my focus was on getting through the song without making mistakes while the new one I am at least trying to focus more on the performance and playing is more on auto-pilot. 

https://youtu.be/7GXbmwQnHMA
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Matek on April 16, 2018, 05:11:12 pm
Matek: Not sure I feel comfortable yet, but I am glad it sounds comfortable to you.

I think the main difference is in the earlier version my focus was on getting through the song without making mistakes while the new one I am at least trying to focus more on the performance and playing is more on auto-pilot. 


There you go my friend. You are getting more comfortable :)
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Loefgren on April 26, 2018, 07:56:55 am
Thanks Matek! I think you are right. I have noticed when I practice easy songs that I have now started to focus more on how to improve the way they sound, instead of focusing on playing the right chords and to get the pick angle right etc.. Open chords and eight note strumming is starting to get, well not easy yet, but not that friggin hard anymore. Left foot is tapping the beat also without even thinking about it. About 5 hours of practice per week almost every week for 2 years and I am starting to feel that I can say that I can play the guitar.  Good feeling!
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: DavidP on April 27, 2018, 08:44:45 am
Thanks Matek! I think you are right. I have noticed when I practice easy songs that I have now started to focus more on how to improve the way they sound, instead of focusing on playing the right chords and to get the pick angle right etc.. Open chords and eight note strumming is starting to get, well not easy yet, but not that friggin hard anymore. Left foot is tapping the beat also without even thinking about it. About 5 hours of practice per week almost every week for 2 years and I am starting to feel that I can say that I can play the guitar.  Good feeling!
Oh yeah ... you can play the guitar ... and sing some songs while playing ... own it!!
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: embishop on April 29, 2018, 08:25:59 pm
This is great, Johan. Nice relaxed strumming pattern, interesting chords and chord progression, and you certainly have the feel for the song. I like it, a lot.

Mari
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: oldhead49 on May 01, 2018, 03:41:09 am
Wow, Johan, that was great.  You sounded very confident in your playing and singing and it shows through.
Of all I've heard you post, I think this one tops the list.  Nice job.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Loefgren on May 02, 2018, 10:28:05 am
Thanks Dave and Mari! Confident and feel for the song, yes that whats I wanted to hear :) Its a simple but yet amazing song.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: close2u on May 03, 2018, 11:47:49 pm
Nicely done and a very clean recording which leaves you exposed in the singing and playing.
You say you've played it a lot and it's on auto-pilot.
That's not a negative thing in my view.
Guitaring eventually gets that way after time and practice.
Some things are just there immediately in reach and that fact allows you to focus on the delivery rather than the worry of 'what chord next' ... 'what's the strumming' etc.
Well done.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Fourtwo on May 05, 2018, 02:12:41 am
Johan,
This sounds great! You've owned this song and played it in your own style. I have no suggestions for improvement here, just keep on doing what you're doing.
Neil
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: AdamT on May 05, 2018, 03:58:32 pm
I really enjoyed this!  This was one of my favs from the '90s -- I think you put your own touch on it with the laid-back feel.  The well-played guitar (natural room reverb from how you recorded) and vocal just made it relaxing and enjoyable.

Thanks for sharing!

Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Loefgren on May 15, 2018, 08:31:22 am
Thanks Richard, Neil and AdamT. Nice to hear that it sounds like my own style and laid-back feel. Thats what I want to achieve. This was the first song I learned to play and still play it at least once a week.
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: justinguitar on May 17, 2018, 10:00:33 am
I love the manc accent in parts! :) sounds relaxed and confident! really well done dude! :)
Title: Re: 002 2018 Oasis - Live Forever
Post by: Loefgren on May 17, 2018, 11:43:12 am
Thanks Justin! We could call it swanc (swedish accent + manc accent). The accent is not intentional but I guess it comes from listening to Oasis a lot.