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General Guitar Learning Discussions => Transcribing help and advice => Topic started by: Wheelin Rev on January 15, 2018, 05:13:48 pm

Title: "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" Transcribing Video
Post by: Wheelin Rev on January 15, 2018, 05:13:48 pm
MODS: Wasn't exactly sure where to put this so feel free to move it to the correct forum if necessary...

I am trying to watch the "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" Transcribing Video. Here in the States, at least at my location in Maryland, the video is being blocked. Is this correct? See the graphic below. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers! Dave

(http://datm.org/graphics/JG_Video_Blocked.jpg)
Title: Re: "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" Transcribing Video
Post by: Wheelin Rev on January 16, 2018, 05:30:00 am
Just tried to access again from my iPhone 7 and received the same message:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180116/040e4c909764b2d3bd8d35a5a099fb23.jpg)

Oh well... Dave


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Title: Re: "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" Transcribing Video
Post by: close2u on January 16, 2018, 08:24:31 am
It's the youtube legal block alorithms I'm afraid.
Title: Re: "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" Transcribing Video
Post by: Wheelin Rev on January 16, 2018, 01:45:00 pm
close2u, thanks for the response. The YouTube Legal Block Algorithm must be selective because the Transcribing the Chain video is not blocked. Go figure... LOL! Cheers! Dave
Title: Re: "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" Transcribing Video
Post by: Majik on January 16, 2018, 03:11:46 pm
Roughly speaking, it's a tool Youtube provide that's controlled by the copyright holders or their representatives.

From what I can gather, it does some sort of audio fingerprinting algorithm (similar to that used by "what's this song" type apps (Shazam, Google,  etc.) and tests all new uploads to find approximate matches to the songs registered by those companies. If a match is found, the copyright holder's account settings determine what action should be taken. That might include taking the video down, or they could chose to add their own advertising to it (for which they receive the revenue).

All of this is totally automated.

It is, on one hand, a pain because the system can have false positives and other errors. It also doesn't allow for legally allowed use such as review, parody, etc. and some companies abuse these, and other, mechanisms  (in particular some companies have taken down bad reviews of their products using these sorts of tools).

There's also been at least one case I know of where record company claimed ownership of some music that one of their artists had sampled, and took action against the original author/performer who had been sampled.

On the other hand, if it wasn't for these automated mechanisms, it's possible that there wouldn't be so much content published on Youtube in the first place.

Note that there is an appeal mechanism in place although, historically, it's not always been very good.

In this case, it might just be that the snippets of The Chain in Justin's second video weren't long enough to allow the algorithm to detect the song properly.

Cheers,

Keith