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Title: String change
Post by: Loefgren on June 29, 2017, 06:26:16 am
Yesterday I removed my 6 months old elixir strings, they were completely dead and also started to stick on the fingers so it was about time. I put on d'addario phosphor bronze. The new strings feel and sound very nice. Never liked the tone of the Elixirs (way to bright) so not sure why I didn't change earlier.

It was the first string change ever done by myself. It was not difficult and quite fun. So don't be afraid to do it if you havent done it before. I will change strings more often in the future that's for sure.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Garfield on June 29, 2017, 07:15:00 am
That's the kick up the @£$e I needed. I've never changed mine.  I need to watch justin video on how to do it. How long did it take?

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Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on June 29, 2017, 07:37:32 am
I took it very slow so maybe 1.5 hours in total, but I had to stop for at least half an hour for family duties. Was very careful when I tuned up the strings, afraid to break one. But it didn't happen. Also make sure to stretch the strings and re-tune. Follow Justins video and there should be no problem. Had a little problem with the thickest string since it was the hardest to wind around the pins, but really not difficult.

When you get used to it, i guess it wont take more than 15-20 minutes.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Drubbing on June 29, 2017, 07:39:16 am
After you've done it a few times, shouldn't take more than 10-15mins
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Joerfe on June 29, 2017, 07:46:48 am
10-15 minutes when a little experienced.
However, it usually takes me quite a bit longer because a always end up cleaning and wiping off the entire guitar when the strings are off. Quite therapeutic in a sense. I like the process.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Dr Winterbourne on June 29, 2017, 08:03:40 am
And it is also good to be all practised up for that time when you break one during band practice or a party where you are playing or at a gig.

Have that spare set ready in the pocket of your gigbag.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Lord_Gigabyte on June 29, 2017, 08:35:25 am
Ah, that's a pointer right there... Having a spare set of strings... Changed my strings recently for the first time. NOW i know how a dead sting sounds like.  :o
But i didn't think about ordering 2 sets...

I found the information on Bax shop, about changing strings quit helpful. Took me about half an hour. When reading this post, i found out what i also forgot to do... Clean the guitar....

Sooo, come winter, i'll be changing ànd cleaning again... ;D
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Joerfe on June 29, 2017, 10:40:33 am
And it is also good to be all practised up for that time when you break one during band practice or a party where you are playing or at a gig.

Have that spare set ready in the pocket of your gigbag.

Our lead guitarist broke a string at the last two practice sessions. It is kind of odd as he never broke a string before (Neither have I). From that first time he broke a string I started bringing a spare set for both electric and acoustic.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: hilts17 on June 29, 2017, 05:32:19 pm
This thread inspired me. I've been thinking I really need to take the plunge and learn how to change my own strings. I'm way overdue for a string change too. So, today I stopped in at my local music store and bought a set of D'Addario strings and a D'Addario Pro-Winder. So the winder is like the one Justin uses in his string changing tutorial. It has the string cutter, pin puller....the works. I'll attempt the actual change later today.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Joerfe on June 29, 2017, 06:05:34 pm
Good for you Hilts. I think changing strings is something everyone should do themselves. It is not difficult after a few tries and I think it improves on your relationship with your instrument, so to speak.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: hilts17 on June 29, 2017, 07:01:57 pm
Good for you Hilts. I think changing strings is something everyone should do themselves. It is not difficult after a few tries and I think it improves on your relationship with your instrument, so to speak.

Just finished changing strings. I brought up Justin's video, stopped/started it multiple times and didn't rush it. I must say, it wasn't difficult. I got the strings to wind on the pegs exactly as Justin demonstrated, stretched the strings, got it in tune and.....WOW! I knew I was overdue but my goodness, the way my new strings sound!!! The sound just jumps out at me again! From now on, it is only I who will change my strings and for sure I won't keep strings on too long any more. Thanks again Justin! ;)
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Joerfe on June 29, 2017, 07:03:16 pm
Title: Re: String change
Post by: mikeb2102 on June 29, 2017, 07:04:57 pm
This thread inspired me. I've been thinking I really need to take the plunge and learn how to change my own strings. I'm way overdue for a string change too. So, today I stopped in at my local music store and bought a set of D'Addario strings and a D'Addario Pro-Winder. So the winder is like the one Justin uses in his string changing tutorial. It has the string cutter, pin puller....the works. I'll attempt the actual change later today.
Just after reading this comment earlier I picked up my electric and within 5 minutes I broke my high E string

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Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on June 30, 2017, 09:51:50 am
Just finished changing strings. I brought up Justin's video, stopped/started it multiple times and didn't rush it. I must say, it wasn't difficult. I got the strings to wind on the pegs exactly as Justin demonstrated, stretched the strings, got it in tune and.....WOW! I knew I was overdue but my goodness, the way my new strings sound!!! The sound just jumps out at me again! From now on, it is only I who will change my strings and for sure I won't keep strings on too long any more. Thanks again Justin! ;)

Glad that my post inspired you to change strings! I will also change my strings myself from now on.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on August 15, 2017, 08:08:18 am
The new D'addario Phosphor Bronze on for 6 weeks now. I really like the tone and feel of them, great strings! But they for sure wear out faster than the Elixir coated strings. Still sound ok but starting to lose some tone. Maybe time for another change soon. Any recommendations for strings to try? I mostly strum chords and play some Oasis, Beatles and Dylan. I did not like the Elixir Nanoweb, too bright.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Dan Graves on August 15, 2017, 10:30:52 pm
for 6 weeks now.  starting to lose some tone.

Six weeks ?
Man, i wish my strings lasted that long, the way i play they're dead in two to three weeks.

I'd say it's normal if you play fairly regularly, and depending on local climate and such.
For instance,i live close enough to the coast that my strings start to rust after seven to eight weeks if i don't change them.
I also want to point out that coated strings lose their tone as quickly as regular strings, but because the coating changes some of the sound characteristics, it's usually less pronounced.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: bigbl5 on August 16, 2017, 01:12:27 pm
This is all good information about how long before string changes.  I don't play more than 30-45 min per day and not even every day.  Sometimes on the weekend I might get 1.5-2 hours.  I last changed my strings back in April or May and I was thinking they were sounding a bit dead - particularly the 2nd string.  I've only used Ernie Ball Super Slinky, but thinking about trying something different.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Dan Graves on August 17, 2017, 07:15:16 pm
This is all good information about how long before string changes.  I don't play more than 30-45 min per day and not even every day.  Sometimes on the weekend I might get 1.5-2 hours.  I last changed my strings back in April or May and I was thinking they were sounding a bit dead - particularly the 2nd string.  I've only used Ernie Ball Super Slinky, but thinking about trying something different.  Does anybody have any suggestions?

SIT strings, or stick with the Ernie Ball, IMHO.
I use SIT and Ernie Ball on my electric and acoustic respectively, and i use d'Addario on my PRS SE Custom 24, because neither SIT nor Ernie Ball does the peculiar string gauge i use on that guitar...
But if i ever find another brand which i can easily find locally that does .09½, i'm switching over to that.
I am really not a fan of d'Addario.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: bigbl5 on August 17, 2017, 08:00:02 pm

I am really not a fan of d'Addario.

Why?  Just personal preference, or is it a bad experience with tone or breakage?  What are your thoughts on chrome or all nickel or cobalt... or as a beginner in stage 7, should I not even think about that yet?
Finally, I was thinking about Fender Bullets... thoughts?
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Dan Graves on August 18, 2017, 02:23:33 am
Why?  Just personal preference, or is it a bad experience with tone or breakage? 

Breakage on new strings with very, very bad timing (middle of a gig).
And they tend to rust away like mad with me, no idea why.

What are your thoughts on chrome or all nickel or cobalt

They have their applications, each has their own sound, though that also depends on what pickups you're using, guitar used (specifically different scale lengths give different results).
More a matter of preference (like brands and gauges) than anything else, IMHO.

... or as a beginner in stage 7, should I not even think about that yet?

If helps you play better, or get closer to the sound you want, then whatever it is is relevant regardless of what level of experience you have.
Should it be the focal point of whatever you're doing ?
Nope, playing and learning are the only things that really matter.

Finally, I was thinking about Fender Bullets... thoughts?

Those used to be OEM's from d'Addario, going on the assumption they're still the cheapest OEM, they still are.
Otherwise they'll be the cheapest low end strings from whoever's now selling them cheaper than d'Addario does at wholesale level.
So i'm not a fan, but hey, some people love the damn things, so like with d'Addario : YMMV.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: bigbl5 on August 18, 2017, 01:05:20 pm
Thanks for the input Dan, I appreciate it! :)
Title: Re: String change
Post by: joueur de guitare on August 18, 2017, 01:29:40 pm
I like D'Addario pure nickels. Others don't.

It's nice to have choices :)

Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on October 17, 2017, 07:45:24 am
New string change: Yesterday I changed my 4 months old D'addario (great strings, but they were really dead) and put on Martin Lifespan 7050 (coated strings). I like the sound of the Martins, very nice strumming sound both with fingers and a pick. A bit bright as always with new strings, but I guess it will be better after a couple of days playing.  What I dont like is the feel, they are a bit uncomfortable to the fingers and not as slick as the Elixir coated strings I had before. Hopefully I get used to them, it's not too bad and they sound good.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: troy on October 18, 2017, 08:24:39 am
I always keep a a few Ernie Ball 10's in my bag. They are available from Amazon for about a £5 in a 6 pack I think.

I only use D'addario extra light flatwounds and stick on one of the Ernie's if I occasionally break a high E. To my untrained ear, one 10 gauge high E is pretty much like any other.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on February 19, 2018, 01:46:29 pm
Ok, new strings again. My 3rd string change I made myself. Everything went well and its quite easy to change strings. Should do it more often I had the old ones since mid October and I play almost every day.

New strings are D'addario EXP 26. Nice feeling and easy to fret. Very bright but I've learned that new strings sound bright. I give them a couple of days to break in. 
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Matek on February 21, 2018, 03:50:20 pm
Once you find a set of strings you like you its cheaper to buy bulk. 3 sets, 5 sets, or more if you play a lot.
Also a few years ago i went into a large music store to buy strings and something to clean my guitar guitar with. The sales guy whispered "this stuff is a rip off, go to the supermarket and buy furniture polish, just make sure it is silicone free". Already had some at home, have been using it since. Works great!! 
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Endureth on February 21, 2018, 05:50:21 pm
Yesterday I removed my 6 months old elixir strings, they were completely dead and also started to stick on the fingers so it was about time. I put on d'addario phosphor bronze. The new strings feel and sound very nice. Never liked the tone of the Elixirs (way to bright) so not sure why I didn't change earlier.

It was the first string change ever done by myself. It was not difficult and quite fun. So don't be afraid to do it if you havent done it before. I will change strings more often in the future that's for sure.

Woot! Good job!
Title: Re: String change
Post by: batwoman on February 22, 2018, 12:39:49 am
Quite therapeutic in a sense. I like the process.

Agree with you Jesper, it's like giving the guitar some love after all the lovely music she's played for me. It deepens my connection with the guitar too. Cleaning is always therapeutic for me  :D
Title: Re: String change
Post by: batwoman on February 22, 2018, 12:41:48 am
I did not like the Elixir Nanoweb, too bright.

Good on you for taking the plunge Johan  :)
I've got Elixir Polyweb on my guitar at the moment and I like them. They are described as 'warm, fast and slick' I like to think that's how my playing is  8)  (in my dreams at least)
Title: Re: String change
Post by: batwoman on February 22, 2018, 12:46:03 am
New string change:  What I dont like is the feel, they are a bit uncomfortable to the fingers and not as slick as the Elixir coated strings I had before. Hopefully I get used to them, it's not too bad and they sound good.

Johan there are guitar string lubricants on the market that makes the strings slicker. The one I know about is called Finger Ease. It's not something I'd use as it seems to be a lot of fiddling around and I keep chemicals to a minimum.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: dman2 on February 22, 2018, 11:12:55 pm
Remember to only change one string at a time. I once removed all
and my neck twisted.

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Title: Re: String change
Post by: joueur de guitare on February 22, 2018, 11:29:54 pm
Remember to only change one string at a time. I once removed all
and my neck twisted.

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That has never happened to any of my guitars, and I take all the strings off together. How else can you clean and/or oil the fretboard?

Come to that, how can one do a refret/crown without removing all the strings??
Title: Re: String change
Post by: close2u on February 22, 2018, 11:30:14 pm
Goodness knows what and how that happened to your neck ... a massively over-tightened truss rod perhaps?
Removing all strings is fine, no problem, totally cool.
Don't remove them all, tighten your truss rod, take it for a day on the beach then a day in cold storage.
But for a short period whilst you clean & maintain is not a problem.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Majik on February 22, 2018, 11:36:44 pm
There must be something wrong with your guitar then, because it's normally completely fine to remove all the strings.

I remove all the strings off my guitars all the time and it's never affected them. And it shouldn't. Bear in mind they aren't manufactured with strings on.

Removing all the strings is often desirable to get access to clean the fretboard and frets, and to oil it if necessary. I believe it's also recommended to remove the strings (or make them slack) when putting a guitar into long term storage, or for carrying in an aircraft hold.

Changing one string a time might be useful if you want to keep the tension on a movable bridge or similar. Otherwise I see no benefit to it.

Cheers,

Keith
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Dan Graves on February 23, 2018, 06:56:16 pm
Guitar necks twisting tends to be down to a problem with the wood, has nothing to do with the strings.

Goodness knows what and how that happened to your neck ... a massively over-tightened truss rod perhaps?

A bowed neck, sure, a badly strained and bowed neck, very likely, but twisting ?
Never seen that happen from an over-tightened truss rod.
YMMV though.
From what i was taught, a twisted neck means the wood wasn't properly dried, or had different issues, like being cut at an angle across the grain of the wood (very, very rare and very unlikely, but i've seen two examples over the past 20 years).
Title: Re: String change
Post by: close2u on February 23, 2018, 08:27:11 pm
Fair correction Dan
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on February 27, 2018, 08:38:49 am

New strings are D'addario EXP 26. Nice feeling and easy to fret. Very bright but I've learned that new strings sound bright. I give them a couple of days to break in.

Had this strings on for a week now. Sounds really really nice. But I find them a bit tougher on the fingers compared to the Martins Lifespans. If I play for more than 1/2 hour fingers start to hurt. Not too bad though. No pain, no gain...
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on February 27, 2018, 08:40:30 am
I removed all strings at the same time and cleaned the frets. No problems.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on May 22, 2018, 02:12:26 pm
Another string change yesterday. The old ones were really uncomfortable to play and sounded really dull no tone at all left. They were D'addario EXP 26. Expected them to last longer (coated strings) but 3 months with play almost every day was apparently to much.

New ones are Ernie Ball Earthwood. Never tried them before. Really nice strings very slick to play, I feel that the daddarios were more grippy and not so slick even when they were new. Feel that the Ernie Balls are easier to strum also, pick glides really easy over the strings. Could be imagination though.

I have noticed when I have gotten a bit better at playing the guitar, i cant really stand old strings so boring and uncomfortable to play. Will change more often in the future.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Dan Graves on May 30, 2018, 08:46:36 pm
As i have mentioned a few times before in string question threads, coated strings do not last longer, wear wise.
They will not corrode (as much as) regular strings, but they still get stretched out more and more over time, get damaged, and eventually get a form of metal fatigue.
The coating won't prolong their lifespan, no matter how much spiel gets thrown at it.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on June 11, 2018, 07:40:16 am
Thanks Dan, I think you are right, if you play every day coated strings wear out pretty fast also, i would say 6-8 weeks then they are dead.

Had the Ernie Balls on for three weeks now and played them for 30-60 mins every day, they still sound good to my ear and feel good to play. Cheap and great strings!

Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on August 21, 2018, 07:43:32 am
Hello! Changed the strings on my guitar again this sunday. Only took me 20 mins this time  :)

New strings are Martin SP 3050 80/20 bronze. 11's. I am not that fond of them to be honest. Very rough on the fingers hurts pretty much and not slick at all. Also pretty quiet (but trebly) compared to Phosphor Bronze strings. They sound pretty good though but a bit quiet even when they are brand new.

I have never tried  80/20 Bronze strings earlier. Anyone else has the experience that these are more quiet than Phosphor Bronze?

My favourite strings so far after playing guitar for 2,5 years and tried several strings are Ernie Ball Earthwood Phosphor Bronze.

 
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Dan Graves on August 27, 2018, 01:44:48 am
80/20 bronze is more trebly/tinny sounding, perhaps that makes them seem quieter.
Personally I'm also a fan of EB's Earthwood strings, sound good, last a decent while, and don't seem to corrode as fast as some others.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on August 28, 2018, 12:52:56 pm
Thanks Dan! I start to really like the sound of the 80/20 strings. But they are really painful to play. I have played for 2,5 years and have real solid callouses but these ones hurts anyway. No nore Martin strings for me. I willl continue to try different strings.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Dan Graves on August 29, 2018, 03:06:48 am
You could just use the 'regular' Earthwoods (80/20), if you want to stick with that brand.
Those are the ones I use.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Loefgren on September 07, 2018, 09:57:19 am
Ok I just bought a set of 80/20 Ernie Ball Earthwoods so I might put them on next time I change strings. The 80/20 Martins which I put on August 20th has lost most if its tone so I probably need to change again pretty soon. Seems like 80/20's lasts much shorter than Phosphor Bronze?
Title: Re: String change
Post by: skinnyT on September 08, 2018, 12:38:32 pm
Inspired by this thread, thanks Loefgren, I decided to have a go at changing my strings, they sounded dead and I realized they were 9 months old oooops. I can usually be sure to mess up anything DIY or mechanical so I was expecting problems but it all went very smoothly. I watched Justin's video and 45 minutes  later the strings were installed and guitar tuned. I didn't even managed to break a string when stretching them!

The moral of this post is that it's not that hard to change strings so give it a go.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: CT on September 08, 2018, 07:21:30 pm
Quote from: Loefgren
Hello! Changed the strings on my guitar again this sunday. Only took me 20 mins this time  :)
Quote from: skinnyT
I watched Justin's video and 45 minutes  later the strings were installed and guitar tuned.
I can't say enough good things about Power Pins 2.0. Acoustic guitar string changes shouldn't take more that a few minutes with these. They add a bit of volume and a lot of sustain as well. Check them out:


Title: Re: String change
Post by: dman2 on February 20, 2019, 11:45:37 pm
The first part of this post is not mine. I also remove all the strings and clean the whole guitar.

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Title: Re: String change
Post by: J.W.C. on April 15, 2019, 12:35:56 am
Seems like I'm constantly changing strings, but it's because I have multiple guitars. I hate doing it. It's a chore.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: brianlarsen on April 15, 2019, 10:40:23 am
I really enjoyed Tammy’s first lesson (check out the new series!), but was dismayed to hear less than a minute in:

“If ever your strings get like this where you can see this dark browny stuff as well as the light parts, it’s definitely time to change them… You probably don’t want to leave it more than a month- a month and a half if you’re playing regularly.”

REALLY?

I restrung mine a year ago, and I thought it still sounded ok (kept in tune very well), - maybe a little dull.
I gave Justin the benefit of the doubt and changed the strings yesterday. I think I notice a brighter sound, but I know I’m facing another couple of days/weeks cranking up the tuners until they settle in.

It’s probably good advice for performers (which I guess she is), but a bit over the top for newbies, who might be better off spending their time practicing rather than restringing and retuning so much of the time?

How often do you give the emperor a new set of clothes?
Title: Re: String change
Post by: Drubbing on April 15, 2019, 12:11:19 pm
I don't play as much as I used to, so don't change strings that often, but new strings sound noticeably brighter and better.

By playing regularly, he probably means a competent player playing and practising constantly. For beginners, every 2-3 months is probably a good time.

You have to stretch your string after changing, then they settle in really quick, a couple of days of tweaks at most.
Title: Re: String change
Post by: maggard on April 15, 2019, 02:10:42 pm
I play about an hour a day and change my strings about once a month.

I do use 80/20s and they don't seem to last as long.

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