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Title: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: Indigo on February 17, 2016, 05:38:01 am
Lesson Link: http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BL-403-BendingTechniqueInBlues.php

Questions...
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: SiegeFrog on February 17, 2016, 06:01:04 pm
Two questions:

1. I have practiced the exercise off and on for a few months and noticed that I'm much better (or at least much more confident) about bending in tune if I have a moderate amount of distortion/gain dialed into my tone. At first I thought it was cheating or fooling my ear to practice it this way, so I purposely went back to a clean, dry tone and struggled again. Lately, I've had second thoughts. I read somewhere that the gain helps with the sustain of the notes. Anyone have thoughts on the correct tone to practice this with?

2. How are we supposed to use our first finger during the bend with our third finger? Sometimes, Justin suggests using all three fingers to support the bend and other times he suggests using the first finger to mute the string physically above the string we're bending on. Or maybe it's a case of when you're first starting out you should use all three fingers and then as you get more advanced only bend with 2 fingers and use the first finger to mute other strings.
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: shadowscott007 on February 20, 2016, 12:35:11 am
1.  You'll want to be able to bend with a clean tone.

2.  The mute happens as you are releasing the bend, so you can use the index to buttress the bend if you need too on the way up, and you can ditch it on the way down.  Eventually you should be able to execute the bend with just the middle and ring fingers.

Shadow
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: adzr1980 on December 07, 2016, 03:11:41 pm
I've found I'm better at muting a string bend by lifting my fretting fingers off the fret at the right moment, rather than palm muting.... does it matter if I do it this way, or will I be hindering myself later?


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Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: stitch101 on December 07, 2016, 05:48:39 pm
It's best to learn both techniques. Sometimes palm muting is the way to go and sometimes fretting
hand muting works best.
If your doing multiple bend and mutes on the same note fretting hand muting wouldn't work very well.
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: TownFryer on January 02, 2017, 06:09:10 pm
Hi,

This is a question about the ideal action for string bending. I am finding that when I bend the string up (using my ring finger - with or without the other fingers) it pushes under the string above. I'd rather not be using more effort to lift this string so I'm wondering if the action on my guitar is too high? 

Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: DarrellW on January 02, 2017, 06:24:05 pm
If you are actually going underneath then it probably is, have you had your guitar set up professionally? If not it's a good idea to, I can do a bend on my acoustic without that happening!

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Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: TownFryer on January 02, 2017, 06:27:57 pm
I may well have to consider getting a professional setup. I am willing to learn how to make the changes myself if there are any good tutorials on the net.

I have a Fender Strat ~20 years old.
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: elphinum on January 27, 2017, 11:03:22 am
Hey, Hi there - Mark Here! (Sorry, first post, couldn't resist. Justin's intros are famous in my house now)

Anyway, I just started the Blues Lead course. The first lick with the big bend, followed by small bend. I can do the bends fine, but I suffer from the following problem.

On the release of the bend, my fingers get caught up on the strings above the bent string. I have small hands, with slight fingers. I think that might be part of the problem because my fingers aren't thick enough to either avoid sliding under the strings, or catching the strings under my extremely short nails. the upshot is, the strings get dragged and sprung on release of the bent string. This creates a lot of noise that shouldn't be heard.

I'm sure technique can help here. I'm not the only guy with small hands. Help?

Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: Joerfe on January 27, 2017, 11:08:33 am
Small fingers are never the reason to why a  technique fails. Lack of practice is ;)
Keep at it and I am sure it will solve the problem a long the way, but remember to practice slowly until you get it right every time.
- Oh, and make sure the strings are not too far from the fingerboard, I could see that happening if the action is way too high.
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: elphinum on January 27, 2017, 11:11:42 am
Hi,

This is a question about the ideal action for string bending. I am finding that when I bend the string up (using my ring finger - with or without the other fingers) it pushes under the string above. I'd rather not be using more effort to lift this string so I'm wondering if the action on my guitar is too high?

I just wrote a new post on this very subject. Tell me, do you have small or thin fingers? I do. I really thought that this was the reason my fingers were sliding under the strings. I'm fairly sure this isn't high action, though I'm as often wrong as anybody else. When I release the bend, the other strings get caught up in the area between my nail and the skin, thus twanging on the nail itself or on anything less than super smooth on the skin, like callousing.
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: elphinum on January 27, 2017, 11:14:08 am
I'll try and post a photo later.

I was sure technique could be improved. I just wondered in what way. I'm now seeing other posts speaking of using various muting techniques on the affected strings.
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: Dr Winterbourne on January 27, 2017, 11:57:34 am
Firstly, I remember this being an issue for me. It wasn't because of my long, bony fingers. Somewhere along the way, it stopped being a problem. I  guess just playing and practicing more drove it away. Some techniques that may have helped, though, were the string muting techniques Justin reluctancy teaches in stage 3 if the IM, and in songs like the Le Freak riff.
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: Gidi on February 12, 2017, 08:52:39 pm
hi everyone,

I have a question on bending B and high E strings on 8th Fret when playing A minor scale.
As Justin recommends when bending with ring finger one should keep the middle finger directly behind (7th fret in this case) and the index finger on the 6th.

The problem appears when i play this sequence: E string 5th fret with my index finger and then a note on the 8th fret with ring finger and then i want to make a full bend on the 8th fret - fingers are simply way too far from each other to put them in position for a bend.

I hope I have managed to express myself understandably. Could you suggest an suitable approach on this? and if it is - practice practice practice - then I will :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: close2u on February 12, 2017, 09:01:12 pm
Hi Gidi
For the bend you describe, you do not need your first finger, try to bend with third supported by second only.
If you get this working well you can do a neat trick - a unison bend. The note you bend to is the same as the note held hi first finger. Getting them to ring out together is a great target to work towards. You can then look to build licks with it.
https://www.justinguitar.com/en/BL-607-UnisonBendsInBluesLeadGuitar-GuitarLesson.php
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: Fox Terrier on February 13, 2017, 07:27:41 am
I found that actually playing a song with string bends worked for me. Start with an easy part - I started with the two intro licks on Aretha Franklin's 'Respect'. One string bend on each.


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Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: philipekken on June 01, 2017, 09:10:44 pm
Hello there,

i`m following the the Blues lead guitar course and i struggle with bending the high e string as shown in one of justin`s licks for pattern 1. Bending the e string a whole tone is quite hard to do and...this is the actual problem...the string breaks after a fewhours playing. I had to replace the string already twice in a few days.

I`m using new 0.10 Earny Balls strings on a quite new Squier Tele Classic vibe. I checked frets and bridge for any damage but looks fine. It breaks exactly at the point of the highest tension. Am i doing something wrong or is this a common issue on a Telecaster (that has a relative short neck)?

thanks in advance for any help
Phil
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: philipekken on June 02, 2017, 03:47:38 pm
i think i found the mistake...it was kind of wrong technique. I was supporting the bend with my 2nd and 3rd finger however i was pressing the second finger directly on the fret, means the string had maximum friction and broke after a while playing. Now, putting the fingers between the frets makes it easier to bend and i guess the string will last longer...

Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: janekbaginski on October 19, 2017, 07:01:44 pm
Hi! I would like to ask about diagram Justin mentioned in the video. I can't find them on a website. Please someone possibly could give a link?

Thanks in advance.

Jan
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: jelseg on January 17, 2018, 10:59:06 am
hi,

I have a similar problem as philipekken: I can't bend the high e string a whole tone (no problems with the other strings). When I almost reach a full tone the string breaks.
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: Maengl04 on April 13, 2018, 10:46:03 am
Hi,
When I’m string bending, I keep getting an unwanted sound from the above strings. But its not because of my picking hand. It’s because of my feet hand. Are there any tips I can try? Thanks
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: DarrellW on April 13, 2018, 11:02:08 am
You need to mute the other strings possibly with a combination of your fretting and picking hands, it’s a common problem when you start but practice cures it.
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: Matek on April 14, 2018, 08:30:19 am
Hi,
When I’m string bending, I keep getting an unwanted sound from the above strings. But its not because of my picking hand. It’s because of my feet hand. Are there any tips I can try? Thanks
In the video he shows how to use a palm mute to quiet the strings after bending. For me it works at a slow tempo but can't get it to work when I speed up

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Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: truman48 on June 11, 2018, 12:44:49 pm
Hey guys, Im struggling with lick no#3 pattern 1 of the lesson "5 Blues licks from pattern 1". When I try and bend the 2nd string on the 8th fret it sounds like a Cat dying. I think its the same thing Justin called seagulls in his video but I cant seem to bend without them.

Any pointers??
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: truman48 on June 15, 2018, 11:49:59 am
Anyone?????
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: DavidP on June 15, 2018, 04:57:33 pm
Anyone?????
Wish I could help, but above my current play-grade ...
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: DarrellW on June 15, 2018, 05:46:22 pm
Right, maybe I can help!
You get that comical sound by not muting the string once you get the bend up to pitch - you need to control how fast you get up to the desired pitch and then be aware of how it should sound at pitch, then once you get to pitch immediately mute the string using the fleshy part of your picking hand thumb - it must be muted before you start to let the bend down!
Title: Re: BL-403 • Bending Technique In Blues
Post by: truman48 on July 05, 2018, 12:26:54 pm
Right, maybe I can help!
You get that comical sound by not muting the string once you get the bend up to pitch - you need to control how fast you get up to the desired pitch and then be aware of how it should sound at pitch, then once you get to pitch immediately mute the string using the fleshy part of your picking hand thumb - it must be muted before you start to let the bend down!

Hey DarrellW I didn't know anyone had replied to this but thanks heaps for your advice. I gave it a try and Im much better at it now even after just five minutes. I was muting wiht my palm but using the thumb is much better and seems to be quicker.  Thanks again.