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Title: Which Smart Phone
Post by: close2u on November 27, 2014, 07:01:14 am
I'm living in the past.
Never had a smart phone.
I'm using a 10 year old Motorola and my wife a Nokia of similar age.
I got my wife an iphone for her birthday, 2-year contract.
But she tactfully said it was more than her needs.
So suggests I take the iphone and get her something less whizz-bang on a pay-as-you-go deal.
So, I'm now trying to research which modest-priced smart phone to buy.

Criterion:
SIM free
Low usage ... some calls, some texts.
User-friendly.
Not tiny in size, not massive either.
Low on data, not much storage needed.
A decent camera would be very welcome.
Good connectivity / sharing with computer.

I have found these at a store that I have a £20 Argos voucher for.

SIM free

Samsung Galaxy Fame £85
LG L5 II £80
Moto E = £90
Nokia Lumia 630 £100
Samsung Galaxy S3 mini £120
Nokia Lumia 635 £130
HTC Desire 310 £130
Moto G = £150


Any help and constructive advice would be gratefully received.
:)
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: Tim Mason on November 27, 2014, 09:43:18 am
You might want to look at these : http://www.fairphone.com/ (http://www.fairphone.com/) or wait a while and go for one of the Lego style phones, which will be modular in design and open architecture, allowing owners to replace most parts themselves. See Google's model - http://www.phonearena.com/news/Googles-Project-Ara-the-first-Lego-phone-toys-around-with-grand-ideas_id55268 (http://www.phonearena.com/news/Googles-Project-Ara-the-first-Lego-phone-toys-around-with-grand-ideas_id55268)
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: LievenDV on November 27, 2014, 09:52:30 am
If i wouldn't have an iphone fom work, I'd go for a Samsung
HTC: saw a lot of troubles with the company phones in my previous job so i'm kinda biased  :)

nokia and lg; meh I dunno; no real opinion about them
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: pt3r on November 27, 2014, 10:00:09 am
If I had to buy a new phone I'd probably get a nexus phone, just can't stand all the bloatware Samsung installs on their phones. But for the moment I'm very happy with my iphone 4s. this thrend for bigger screens is not my cup o' tea, i want a phone not a tablet.
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: de_conne on November 27, 2014, 10:23:34 am
I'm a Windows Phone type of guy :-).

It's a stable, easy to handle, good looking and safe platform.
Only problem I see are the apps. Sure most big platforms have their Win8 app allready but the smaller ones don't seem to invest in Win Phone apps.

I have a Foscam IpCam: Apps for IOS an Android, no Win app.
I have a Roland Cube Amp: Cube Jam app for IOS, no Win app.
Even the justinguitar apps are not for Win Phone.

I suggest we all buy Win Phones and apps will come for sure. ;D
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: Greenish on November 27, 2014, 10:57:31 am
The new Motorola phones are great value for money, and less clogged with useless junk than Samsung or htc phones.
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: close2u on November 27, 2014, 11:58:48 am
I have no idea about the different OS and therefore no preference.

Might a Windows phone be a little more 'user-friendly' and intuitive for a PC user?

Do the OS differ greatly for general use?

If so, how?

Just to add / detail some of the criterion:

My wife has an ipad air - so is well served in terms of 'computing power' in a portable form.

The mobile phone would be for (a small amount of) texting (from home & out) and phoning whilst out.

She does read and send emails and does access Facebook. She may do this - again when she hasn't got the ipad with her - but not much.

Plus she may take some photos where having her digital camera / ipad is not convenient or they are not at hand.

She is unlikely to listen to music on it - we have a small ipod that she seldom uses.

She doesn't drive so satnav / maps etc are not important.

We have never used apps so don't know whether or not they will become things we will ever want / need / use.
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: de_conne on November 27, 2014, 12:14:57 pm
Might a Windows phone be a little more 'user-friendly' and intuitive for a PC user?

I think so, yes. Are you using Windows 8 yet?

Plus she may take some photos where having her digital camera / ipad is not convenient or they are not at hand.
Perhaps a Nokia Win Phone is at order here? They have some of the best onboard digital camera's?

What's also nice, is that it syncs photos and movies immediately with your windows media library, so no need to copy fotos on a regular basis and its backupped on skydrive (Onedrive? THE CLOUD!) :)

What's also nice is that you can manage your people (contact) list on the PC and everything gets synced between the devices. In terms of syncing with Desktop PC (Win8) I think Windows Phone is the best.

As far as I can tell anything else is possible with every phone?
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: marcusmarkmus on November 27, 2014, 01:39:17 pm
I am a happy samsung user. The camera on my samsung is really really good. (Better than my actual video camera.) and imo better than any iphone or sony I have tried. I had an iphone 3g a long time ago, it was alright, but its hard to transfer files and stuff, since apple forces you to use their strange software, wheras other brands work like usb-sticks.

Very little experience with windows-phones. Only thing I've heard is that there's "no apps" for it since not many bother to make a version for that small market. Might not be a problem if she doesnt want to/need alot of apps and stuff. 
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: Macabre on November 27, 2014, 01:55:32 pm
I'd go the opposite direction and say avoid a Windows phone. We got one for my mum and she couldn't work it. I tried it as well, and hated it. I can switch between Android and iOS quite easily, but Windows is just meh. Everyone I know that has had a Windows phone has got rid of it. I think they are an aquired taste. If you like Windows 8 you might like it, but the vast majority of people I come across despise Windows 8 with a passion.

Mum has a Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini now and can use it just fine.

If it's mainly going to be calls, texts and facebook, then any entry level Android smartphone will do the job. You might want to consider a Huawei, I'd never heard of them before a friend got one and it's a nice, easy to use smartphone (has a 5 megapixel camera as well);
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1475737.htm

Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: TB-AV on November 27, 2014, 01:57:31 pm
I am a happy samsung user. The camera on my samsung is really really good. (Better than my actual video camera.) and imo better than any iphone or sony I have tried. I had an iphone 3g a long time ago, it was alright, but its hard to transfer files and stuff, since apple forces you to use their strange software, wheras other brands work like usb-sticks.


That has been my experience as well. I would not get another iPhone. Still have a 3g... I know several people that are big Mac heads, hate PCs, and they just don't like the iPhone and dumped it.

Heard lots of good about Samsung but that's the upper end.
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: Greenish on November 27, 2014, 04:03:02 pm
My wife and my mother have/had low budget Samsung Android phones, and both had a lot of problems with them.
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: shadowscott007 on November 27, 2014, 07:31:45 pm
Samsung Galaxy S5, android, aside from the fact I can't see the embedded soundcloud stuff in the forums it just works...

Shadow
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: Greenish on November 27, 2014, 09:03:53 pm
Samsung Galaxy S5, android, aside from the fact I can't see the embedded soundcloud stuff in the forums it just works...

Shadow
Great phone, but with a huge price tag. Not quite a budget phone.
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: close2u on November 27, 2014, 09:11:18 pm
@ shadowscott

yes ... lower price necessary here

which modest-priced smart phone to buy.

Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: Majik on November 27, 2014, 09:27:16 pm
I wouldn't buy a Windows phone on the assumption it will be more functional or more tightly integrated with your desktop environment. In my experience Microsoft have always marketed the apparent seamlessness of their mobile platform, but other platforms have been just as capable, and often better.

If you go with Google Apps on Android, for instance, the integration of contacts, calendar, email and documents is superb, and was literally years ahead of Microsoft (who are now starting to catch up)

If you want a good phone, with good battery life, not very much bloatware and at a good price, the moto G is worth a look.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: shadowscott007 on November 27, 2014, 09:41:29 pm
My bad.  Was my 2 year upgrade phone, so I really didn't/don't know what they cost in the wild....

My understanding is that in the states we get the hardware cheap so they can wildly overcharge us for the service as compared to the European cell business model where the hardware is fullprice but the contracts are reasonable...

Shadow
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: close2u on November 27, 2014, 09:56:33 pm
lots of good comment about the Moto G

For my listed criterion in OP, is the Moto E that much less of a phone for £60 less than Moto G?
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: Greenish on November 27, 2014, 10:04:30 pm
Never seen the moto E in the wild, but my Moto G was worth every penny. Or eurocent.
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: close2u on November 28, 2014, 07:00:30 pm
There's a locked iphone 4s for £100 which would cost £20 to unlock near to me.
Does that sound reasonable?

I'm thinking they'd allow my wife to continue to learn and use just one new OS rather than yet another one (in the form of android).

That said, she finds the typing of text on the iphone 5c a little small so would the even smaller iphone 4s be more difficult?
And would this suggest she revise her thoughts about a 'small' handset?

The Moto G (again) has a 5" screen.
Another reason to consider it (or something of similar size) perhaps?


Oh ... damn these difficult decisions!
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: Majik on November 28, 2014, 09:54:25 pm
That said, she finds the typing of text on the iphone 5c a little small so would the even smaller iphone 4s be more difficult?
And would this suggest she revise her thoughts about a 'small' handset?


Funnily enough, the larger sized handsets seem to have been (somewhat successfully) marketed at women. Take the bizarre launch event for the the Samsung Galaxy S4, one of the first phones with a larger screen:





The marketing reasoning behind this is that, whilst such devices are a bit large for many pockets, women are more likely to be carrying a handbag, or clutch bag or similar in which they can carry a larger device.

OTOH my daughters prefer a small device because they tend to use their bra-strap to carry it when they are going out for the evening.

Cheers,

Keith
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: close2u on November 29, 2014, 04:54:45 pm
I found a deal for a new iphone 4s on contract.
No upfront cost.
£8.99 / month over 24 months = £215.76 total cost.
Looks like that's the one.
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: mike42 on November 29, 2014, 09:37:23 pm
I've got an iPhone 4s and I like it. No issues with it, and it's simple to learn and use just like all Apple products (in my experience).

The one possible issue that comes to mind with the 4s is simply its age. It's now several models old, and it's likely that Apple will stop supporting it when they release the next phone. Obviously you can still use it at that point, but probably won't be able to download any new iOS updates, etc.
Title: Re: Which Smart Phone
Post by: Cue Zephyr on November 29, 2014, 10:59:18 pm
I +1 the Nexus. I have an iPhone myself but if I didn't absolutely need it, I would've gotten one too.