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Title: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: justinguitar on June 11, 2012, 03:09:55 pm
Lesson Link: http://justinguitar.com/en/TR-105-PentatonicBeginnings.php

Questions below...
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Darka on June 16, 2012, 09:24:31 pm
In Example TR-105-C, 2nd measure I got the first note as a 1/2 note, but the answer sheet says a 1/4 note followed by a 1/4 note rest.

I got all the notes correct, it's just the duration of that note I'm confused over as I could still hear the note for half the measure, if it was a rest I would have thought it would be muted for the 2nd beat??

Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: TB-AV on June 17, 2012, 12:03:09 am
You are correct.

Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Sanju Joshi on June 21, 2012, 05:35:44 am
Is it just about getting the notes right or timing as well?
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Darka on June 21, 2012, 11:25:15 am
Is it just about getting the notes right or timing as well?

I did both as I feel it's important to understand that the notes are only half the equation, without the correct timing you will not be able to play your transcription and have it sound like the original.

regards,
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: shadowscott007 on June 21, 2012, 01:08:07 pm
+1 for notes AND timing...

Shadow
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Anand on June 30, 2012, 11:46:14 pm
Hi everyone so I just started justin's course on transcribing
I was able to figure out the first 4
I am having trouble with tr 105. Solo - 5
Can't figure out the measure
I tried slowing down using transcribe
Any suggestions ?
Thanks
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Chnuesi on July 05, 2012, 09:48:41 am
Hi everyone
Think I made a mistake not to use the open string notes. My transscripts sounds correctly but the answers from Justin are different

Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on July 05, 2012, 01:36:38 pm

@Anand - Try one note at a time.  Play the a note and then try to find it on the guitar.  There are five notes in the pentatonic scale.  Keep trying and you'll get it.  It will feel good when you do.


@Chnuesi - TR-105 exercise is pentatonic position one only.  There are no open strings.  It's very possible to find other notes that sound correct, but you should be looking for the ones in the pentatonic position one.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: joycey on July 11, 2012, 12:43:35 pm
Great typo
"...so don't worry about writing down vibrator or curls or anything if you notice them (which you may not anyway!)."

I would definately noticie if I was trying to transcribe a vibrator! :)
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: ipoo2 on July 27, 2012, 01:06:41 pm
ArgHHGHGH!!!

I have only checked my answers to 105-A and in terms of transcribing where the fingers have been placed I am waaayyy off the mark. BUT I am playing the right notes (i.e. when Justin plays a D so am I) I am within the Amin pentatonic scale. Just I choose wrong D!

Have I transcribed it correctly and incorrectly??

Any advice!!!!??

I probably should mention that I am using an acoustic guitar, should that make a big difference?
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on July 27, 2012, 03:20:54 pm
@ipoo2,  I think the lesson said that the answers would be in the the pentatonic FIRST position.  There are two D's in the first position, but they are an octive apart. 

An acoustic guitar should not make a difference. 

Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: ipoo2 on July 27, 2012, 04:33:56 pm
@ipoo2,  I think the lesson said that the answers would be in the the pentatonic FIRST position.  There are two D's in the first position, but they are an octive apart. 


Thanks sophiehiker, yep, was using the first position, but played the wrong D i.e. an octave lower. Just wondered if this was good/bad/ugly? As I got it right, just an octave out!?
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: misterg on July 27, 2012, 05:40:44 pm
Thanks sophiehiker, yep, was using the first position, but played the wrong D i.e. an octave lower. Just wondered if this was good/bad/ugly? As I got it right, just an octave out!?

It's an area to work on. If you got the wrong octave, then it wasn't 100% right, was it? :)

Don't get hung up about it, but listen to the notes again and try to hear where you went wrong. Being aware of things that might trip you up will help to avoid making the same mistake in future.

My 0.02p

Andy
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on July 27, 2012, 07:31:34 pm
Yes, what Andy said.  It's not good and it's not bad, but a little ugly.   ;)

I think you had to really reach to get that lower octive D.  That is, it wasn't near the other notes in that exercise.  Most of the time (not all the time), the next note should be within easy reach of the last note.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Dan77 on December 06, 2012, 10:08:43 pm
Hmm i actually got a diff answer for 105-A for the first two bars

Bar 1: 7 on the  D string, 5 on the G string. Bar 2:  7 on D, 5 on D, 7 on A and 5 on A

Using what i learned from Justin's CAGED theory lesson, it should be the same notes just in different locations on the fretboard.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on December 07, 2012, 12:14:44 pm

Sames notes, different octave. 
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: nickv3 on December 07, 2012, 02:04:36 pm
Just flown through a, b and c in around 30 mins!! You we right it's very satisfying when you work out a tricky note.

I've been playing and practicing like crazy for the last 14 months, and just as i was coming to what could have been a plateau i've found your site. Only been using it for a couple of days, but its a massive help, especially the structured practice stuff, like the 1 hour guitar workout!

Thanks!! ;D
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Nikhil on January 30, 2013, 06:58:04 pm
I am having trouble figuring out the notes on the guitar. I am using an acoustic.

Earlier lesson i.e TR 104 the notes were easy to recognise. But in this case the leaning curve seems pretty steep. Mainly because the sound is pretty distorted. Maybe the electric guitar is using some distortion effects.

Sometimes I am getting the notes wrong by an exact octave. Sometimes it is way off.

Any pointers as to how to recognise that sound using an acoustic ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on January 30, 2013, 07:45:08 pm
I'm pretty sure Justin did not use any distortion effects.  The notes should sound pretty much the "same" on an acoustic.  Remember that all the notes are in the first position of the A minor pentatonic scale.  Hope that helps. 
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Nikhil on January 30, 2013, 08:02:19 pm
I'm pretty sure Justin did not use any distortion effects.  The notes should sound pretty much the "same" on an acoustic.  Remember that all the notes are in the first position of the A minor pentatonic scale.  Hope that helps.

But there is a stark difference between the sound timbre of the lessons of 104 and those of 105. 104 seemed to be much easy. The sound was easily found on the acoustic.


But I guess,  being able to guess those sounds is not a big achievement.

Being able to correctly transcribe the notes of 105 would be better than that. But I am finding it quiite tough. Let's see , I guess it is practice and more practice.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on February 01, 2013, 02:07:11 pm
@Nikhil,  Try playing along with the lesson after you have transcribed the notes.  You should be able to hear pretty quickly if it's right or not.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: misterg on February 01, 2013, 03:33:36 pm
But I guess,  being able to guess those sounds is not a big achievement.

Being able to correctly transcribe the notes of 105 would be better than that. But I am finding it quiite tough. Let's see , I guess it is practice and more practice.

The tracks deliberately get harder as you go throug the levels - from more 'realistic' guitar sounds, to things like more complicated drum and bass guitar. Every level is an achievement, and helps prepare you for the next one. I know that another of the beta-testers used an acoustic without too many problems (no more than those of us using electrics, anyway), so that in itself should not be a problem.

It is tough, and you will probably need to really concentrate and work at it, but you will learn through that experience.

Stick with it! :)
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: mark767 on May 21, 2013, 01:41:35 am
I am really encouraged so far.  This is about my third attempt at transcribing but first time doing this course.  The other attempts were trying to transcribe chords and it was not very good.

Anyway, just completed 105 A, B & C. Took me about 15 to 20 minutes each and scored 100% on all of them....so I am really pleased and pressing on.  I know it will get much harder but its a good start.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: matyjo on September 03, 2013, 03:07:29 am
Please repost the answers as they are no longer available from the download sites.

the second link works with email address
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on September 03, 2013, 12:44:44 pm
Yep, got this one too.   :o
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: riff1964 on October 09, 2013, 03:25:15 am
Nice tutorial on transcribing, this is something I never imagined I could do. I have worked through the first three examples and got them mostly right which has given me a confidence boost.

Good work ...
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: pratsikka on October 13, 2013, 07:25:23 am
Hello,

I am new to transcribing and I think I have almost got it, just want to confirm it with the answers.
The links to answer have expired. Can you please re-post it.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on October 13, 2013, 12:35:27 pm
... just want to confirm it with the answers.  The links to answer have expired. Can you please re-post it. 

The first link expired, but the second link still works.  http://www.payloadz.com/d1/freeproducts.asp?id=1629700 (http://www.payloadz.com/d1/freeproducts.asp?id=1629700)

Put in any email address, make up one, and it will let you in.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: pratsikka on October 14, 2013, 09:34:20 am
Thanks, it wasn't working yesterday. But second link worked today. I got notes right but wrong octaves :-/
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: BlakJak on October 25, 2013, 01:23:17 am
All of the mp3 links in the lessons appear to be missing... Have I missed something? (Tried searching for this but came up short.)
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on October 25, 2013, 11:57:42 am
I get the SoundCloud links okay.  It works fine for me.   ???

Sometimes, if you have a slow connection, it takes a while for the SoundCloud links to appear.  You might try reloading the page.

HTH 
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Cheaper_than_Gold on April 16, 2014, 02:46:38 pm
I'm not able to get the first answer link to work at all, and the second (payloadz) sent me an  e-mail, which also has a dead link.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on April 16, 2014, 07:11:57 pm
The payloadz worked for me.  It sent me this link which will expire soon...

[LINK REMOVED BY J]
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: justinguitar on April 28, 2014, 10:20:32 am
@sophie - what you doing adding links to paid for products?? The paid for one has some extra exercises and few enough people buy it as it is!!!
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: sophiehiker on April 28, 2014, 12:02:15 pm
Lesson Link: http://justinguitar.com/en/TR-105-PentatonicBeginnings.php

Questions below...

Answers? You really want them? ok, click here: https://www.yousendit.com/download/QlVoSXQ2eFhOQnhvZE1UQw (https://www.yousendit.com/download/QlVoSXQ2eFhOQnhvZE1UQw) or here: http://www.payloadz.com/d1/freeproducts.asp?id=1629700

@J, I think this is a free product.  You give the link in your header.  It just has the answers to the exercise.  Anyway, if I screwed up, I'm sorry. 
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: stefanomoret on July 28, 2016, 10:13:39 pm
Hey,

I'm looking for the answers for this lesson. Apparently there used to be a link to get them but it is not there anymore?

Thanks!
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Megido on October 06, 2016, 07:50:25 pm
My answers. Hope it'll help...

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2ciilqd.png)

Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: garyduffey on January 19, 2017, 10:46:08 pm
Lesson Link: http://justinguitar.com/en/TR-105-PentatonicBeginnings.php

Questions below...
Im struggling to find the answers Justin.
Keep up the good work!


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Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: 9thChapter on May 01, 2017, 04:23:31 am
I can't see any links to the Soundcloud audio files for the exercises on the website.  Am I missing something or have they all been removed?  Other lessons have links to Soundcloud working fine on the site... just none on the Transcribing portion.

Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: fdsalamida on August 10, 2017, 05:47:38 am
Hello y'all. So I'm not too concerned but I'd like to know where I could find this so called answer sheet. I say not too concerned b/c like Justin says you should trust your ear, but I'd really like to check a couple of notes for the final affirmation.

Thanks in advance,

Frankie
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: yundi on August 25, 2017, 01:34:21 pm
Thanks justin for this lesson, this skill is very difficult to learn and must be really difficult to teach, that is why there are not too many places that help with it, I really appreciate that you do. As you said in the very first video of this series, this is the most important thing to master guitar playing.

I see people struggling to get the answers, Megido has posted his answers four messages above and they are the same as the ones that I have, so maybe that helps you to check with yours.

For those that don't see the soundcloud links, most probably it is because your browser is blocking this external source in the page (to see soundcloud, click on your navigation bar in the small icon that appears there saying that some content is not being shown), and please remember to not using add blockers in pages like this, as cool stuff like this one needs to get some credit  ;D
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Neeraj on January 15, 2018, 02:40:30 pm
Hello forum members,

Need a little guidance.

So far I done exercise a,b,c and d.

I do get bits and parts correct but in many areas even though I am on the right string (e,B, G, D, A, E)
I am not on the correct low or high note.
 
For example if I am on the string E and I hear note 8 and than 5 the answer is 5 than 8.

I am using Audacity to listen to the file.
I stop and each note and try to find it on the guitar.
Only thing I do not do it play at half speed.

Are there any other techniques I can use to improve my transcribing skills?
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: jelseg on January 18, 2018, 07:18:58 pm
@Neeraj: maybe some interval training would help. Download an eartraining app for your phone or pc and do those excercises first. I think Justin also has some lessons on ear training.
 If you would want to change the tempo of the file in audacity you can do that by selecting everything and using the change tempo effect


Now I also have a problem: I hav almost the same answers as posted by megido a few post up but for exc A B and d I am exactly an octave lower (I'm assuming these answers are right and mine are to low since I have to use a note outside pattern 1 of A minor pent). I find it hard to hear the difference between a prime and an octave when the two notes are played on a different instrument (or different tone of guitar). Is there any way to train this?
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Neeraj on January 29, 2018, 12:31:36 pm
@jelseg thanks for your input. Yes I have been practising the ear training (mostly the 4th and 5th intervals) and using a ear training app.

Sorry can't help with your query.

But what does the forum feel about  repeating the minor pentatonic excerises again and again till I get it right? I feel like repeating the same exercises, I might be memorizing unintentionally and not serving its true purpose.
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: ntha on January 30, 2018, 07:19:44 am
@Neeraj, I'm not sure I understand your problem because the difference between 5 and 8 on the same string is quite substantial.
What I do is hit "pause" after every note, then find it on the guitar. There are only 12 to choose from for these exercises so it is not too difficult. The rhythm is already on the pdf so you don't have to worry about it.
If you don't know the minor pentatonic scale pattern you may want to learn it or keep a chart next to you until you do.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: bluesman on March 17, 2018, 09:29:59 pm
Hi   I'm new here and i'm having difficulty finding the answers to TR-105
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: randyguitar on April 11, 2018, 12:50:41 pm
Hi all,1st post here. I am just  starting transcribing and I am confused on this lesson. Justin first recommended doing the transcribing by hand and not using software at the beginning. But in the lesson he recommends to put the MP3 in software.  Not sure what I should do. If it is recommended to use the software which one should I get. The other thing is I know all the positions in all the keys but I am not sure what a Aminor pentatonic scale is. Let me know thanks
Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Matek on April 11, 2018, 02:15:34 pm
Randy, I think he means transcribe by hand on paper but use software to slow the mp3 down if you need to. I think windows media player has a slow down feature but he recommends a program called Transcribe

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Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: Matek on April 11, 2018, 02:17:16 pm
Transcribe software homepage

https://www.seventhstring.com

I have been using it. Works great

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Title: Re: TR-105 • Pentatonic Beginnings
Post by: jhfletcher on May 04, 2018, 09:34:45 pm
where are the answers?