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Title: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: justinguitar on December 03, 2010, 02:28:16 pm
Questions...

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Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: barderc on March 25, 2011, 04:12:35 pm
While getting to grips with the other 5th string barre chords, A-major is a nightmare - definitely the hardest chord for me so far.  Unless I go incredibly slowly, either my 3rd finger ends up touching and slightly muting the 5th A string, or I don't put enough pressure on the first E string and it half rings rather than being muted (I can't bend my third finger knuckle back enough to clear it and allow it to ring cleanly) or I put on too much pressure (rather than just enough to mute it) and end up making the first E string ring out.

Does anyone have any tips other than to keep at it?

Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: close2u on March 26, 2011, 07:19:17 am
most of the time you don't need to worry about playing / hearing the (thin) e string with this shape barre chord ... of course keep practicing though ... you could try playing the barre part of the chord with 3rd finger, 4th finger or fingers 2,3,4 together
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: inthewind on March 26, 2011, 04:41:52 pm
I actually didn't know I was doing this until this lesson and took a close look at my A shape but ...
My pinky sits on the E string to mute it.  It snugs right up next to my ring finger and kind of sits on the corner of the fretboard and just touches the E.  If I think about it I can't do it so I don't know if this will work for you or not but you can give it a try.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: EggiEggson on June 11, 2011, 08:18:05 pm
Hello guys (my first reply to this outstanding course :) )

In advance: Sorry for my English.

I tried really hard to handle the chord with my 1st and 3rd finger, it absolutely didn´t work. But I figured out that it is much easier for me to press the B/G/D strings with my pinkie finger - as a side effect, the high E string gets muted automatically, I didn´t have to train much on that.

What do you think? Could this way be a disadvantage in future? Is it preferrable for other people who have the same problems and maybe also figure out they get better/faster results using the small finger?
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: freigeist on June 12, 2011, 12:13:54 am
Hi EggiEggson,

at first: almost everyone has problems with the A shape bar chords at the beginning ;)

Some great guitarists play it that (pinky) way (e.g. clapton sometimes). From time to time I have seen Justin playing it that way too.
So I think it´s not a problem, but I prefer the "proper" way. It´s hard to learn...really....for almost everyone.
The standard fingerings are not chosen randomly. They have established themselves over the centuries because they are in most cases the best (or let´s say easiest way) to play.

The whole web is full of beginners who say something like "I can´t do this", "I´m physically not able to do it", "My fingers are too short"...and so on.
In most cases, people simply give up too soon. Yeah it´s easier to say that you can´t do it than practicing for hours and hours.
Do not get me wrong, I don´t want to say that your problem is not enough practice. I only wan´t you to think about it. :)
I personally use only "my way" if I have tried it for month the "proper" way.

Not a good example for "proper" technique but for long work ;)
The "hendrix style" e shape with thumb.....
It tooks me 100+ hours...but after all it was possible and I´m now able to play hendrix tunes his way.
I think it was worth the work.
Yes i know a bad example because it´s not a proper technique for e shape bar chords ;).
But I learnd the "right" one first so I can play both. That´s the way you should think. First the "proper" way, then alternative techniques.
You can only judge which technique is better for you if you master both.

But thats only my personal opinion. It´s your decision :)
There are a lot of great guitarists with own techniques...like knopfler, hendrix and so on..... ;)
But I think I'm not as awesome as these guys.....so I prefer the "normal" way ;)

Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Gazrovers on June 18, 2011, 06:09:26 pm
I really struggle with playing Bb and B chords :( it feels like i have to really have to bend my wrist
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: close2u on June 19, 2011, 07:18:14 am
I really struggle with playing Bb and B chords :( it feels like i have to really have to bend my wrist
you are not alone ... when I was still a youngster learning songs on my acoustic I used (I still have) a Bob Dylan book .. old and battered now ... and a 100 Songs for Buskers book .... and used to curse that so many of the songs were in keys that needed barre chords at frets 1 and 2 ...

it will come, gotta practice and build strength plus technique
 :)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Diesel McGunner on August 09, 2011, 07:05:37 pm
Should I work on muting the 1st string, it is technically supposed to be ringing out which it does but everyone else seems to mute it?

I'm not sure exactly what's going on here. Barre chords were supposed to be the hardest thing to learn, especially as I have tiny hands, but I learnt the E shape in about a minute, it just happened. Then the A shape is supposed to be really hard but I got that pretty much straight away too, except for that all of the notes ring out, as though I'm playing with all four fingers but I'm using just 1 and 3. I guess I'm kind of lucky to have just the right shape hands or whatever and barre chords are quite easy for me.

But anyway, should I be trying to play muting the highest note? When I just naturally play an A shape barre it comes out as all five strings quite clearly, which is technically correct but still if most people play it muting the 1st it will sound different.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Les Mikel on September 19, 2011, 10:22:36 pm
Hey,

I just can't play a a shape barre on the lower part on the neck. They really hurt and I just cant get the note ring out clean. I try to play this chord for over a few months now. I recently tried to play the chord with my pinky for the barre and not my 3rd finger. That works out very well. I get the notes clean and I can change to it pretty fast.

Is this a proper technique or should I learn the barre with my 3rd finger?
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: knighty 1 on September 21, 2011, 12:20:10 pm

  i've been practising my A shape barre chord  and its coming along fine thankfully.
 My queary is , since learning my E shape barres ive got used to using my middle finger for added pressure as justin shows in the E shape 7 and minor 7th. i  now do this on my A shapes is this ok ,it works and i can get to other chords quicker than having my middle and pinky under the fret board :)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: mouser9169 on September 21, 2011, 01:59:45 pm
@ knighty 1

I believe in having as many options open to you as possible.

The E7 and Emin7 grips he shows allow you to use your middle finger for extra pressure. However, there are other common grips for those chords (that I believe I've seen Justin use) that don't allow you to do that, as they require all three fingers. The A shape is a little different in that there really isn't a whole lot else you can do with that middle finger even if you wanted to (As I write this, I think of a chord shape that would...).

I'll admit I use an extra finger to "reinforce" a barre at times (min 6 at some frets comes to mind). But I'm trying to strengthen my fingers so I don't have to. So I guess I'm saying do what you have to do to make the chords sound good and your changes clean while you're learning. Then try to remove as many "crutches" as you can (we probably all have some that we're stuck with).

Then again, I've also spent hours practicing to be able to get the thin E string to ring out when playing a Fender (for those who don't know, Gibson and Fender guitar necks have slightly different widths and length's. A Fender's neck is narrower) by angling my finger so it points a bit down toward the bridge while keeping a good firm grip on all the strings.  I guess I'm just anal that way.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: TB-AV on September 21, 2011, 04:40:56 pm
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it works and i can get to other chords quicker than having my middle and pinky under the fret board

If you are putting fingers "under" the fretboard, you are doing something wrong ( that likely has to do with arm/wrist angle ).

Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: 77sahar77 on September 22, 2011, 03:14:54 pm
I want to know if muting the thin E string is necesary because when I playing the A shape barre chords I succeed to bend my ring finger enough to unmute the string but Justin recommend to mute this string.
So what is the right thing to do?
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: mouser9169 on September 22, 2011, 05:08:09 pm
The note E is part of the A chord, so it isn't "wrong" to let it ring out. If it sounds good in what you're playing, let it ring. If it doesn't, mute it. Simplistic answer I know, but there you go.

Since the highest notes determine the melody, being able to keep it unmuted will help you if you go on to play 'melodic' chord progressions later on.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Aeonstorm on October 14, 2011, 10:10:45 am
i played in front of a mirror after watching justin talk about wrist angle, and found that I tend to use the locked-in angle which he says not to. However, it doesn't hurt anymore as I've practiced it this way for ages. I realized that the reason I do this is because i point my thumb upwards. In the video, justin says that you can point your thumb whichever way feels more comfortable, but I realized that because my thumb is pointing straight up, my whole hand has to be lower for my thumb to be placed over the middle of the neck. In contrast, if you have it at 45 degrees like justin, it is naturally lower and thus u can have ur hand higher. Does this mean I should switch over to the 45 degree thumb placement? I find it quite awkward as I play all my chords with thumb straight up, and all my scales as well, and it would require a lot of relearning to get it right.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: foggy on October 30, 2011, 07:46:34 am
hi Justin.. when playing the A shape barre chord i find it alot easier when i put my pinkie under the neck, ( only the pinkie mind,the middle finger stays where it should) i can get ALOT more pressure on the strings and it sounds great,however if i raise my pinky like you said just abouve the strings i can hardly get enough pressure on the strings to ring out clearly! my question is ....is this ok? thanks for your time and advice!  Foggy.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: jacksroadhouse on October 30, 2011, 08:03:10 am
I'm not Justin, bot for what it's worth: that's a very bad idea for several reasons. First, it makes you very slow. If you use your pinky like that, changing to the next (non A-shape barre) chord will be very difficult. There's way too much movement involved.

Secondly, the A-shape barre chord (major shape) played with fingers 1 and 3 requires you to tilt the ring finger (like J showed) so that you either mute the 1st string or you don't touch it (barring it with your index finger). The latter is pretty tricky, though. Muting the 1st string with your ring finger becomes far more difficult with your pinky tucked away underneath since it's pulling the ring finger in the opposite direction.

The answer really is practice (as usual). This isn't just about the right technique, it's about a rather unusual kind of strength and flexibility. It might take quite a while, so keep on practicing.

However, there is an alternative way to play this chord: index finger as usual and the pinky for the barre with the ring finger on top of it for support. If your pinky is the right size in relation to your guitar neck, this can work very well. I seem to remember J is demonstrating this in the Layla unplugged videos, but I'm not entirely sure.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: saichoo on September 15, 2012, 12:00:00 pm
Man, this one is doing me nuts in.  :P

I can do it on the electric but can't quite do it on the acoustic, even though the acoustic has pretty good action. Everything plays except for the 3rd string, which is almost there but chokes slightly. Methinks I have to go through the lesson again, unless someone knows something I don't.  ;D
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: wmike1503 on September 30, 2012, 04:50:07 pm
Hi all,

Enjoying the site.

55 years old - average sized hands.  Trying to follow the clear lesson on the E barre.  Physically impossible, at least for me.  When I have the barre on (45 degree roll from the fret) - there is no way to get to the actual strings required.

Just me,  I guess.  Tried practicing this - just, physically cannot get my fingers in the right position.

Ho hum - no barre chords for me, I think.  :)

Cheers,

Mike
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: jacksroadhouse on September 30, 2012, 05:04:50 pm

Welcome to the forum!

And...

Oh dear, giving up already? What a shame...  :)

How about this: forget the 45° thing for now, put your fingers 2-4 in place, then put the barre on, and see how that feels. Barre chords have a lot to do with hand and wrist position - get that part wrong, and they just won't work. Try to emulate Justin's position.

Also remember: with e.g. an Emaj shaped barre chord, the barre only has to cover strings 1,2 and 6 (for now, chord variations come a little later).

Btw: you wrote E shape barre chord, but you posted under A shape. Which one is it?
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: mmmbert on December 14, 2012, 01:11:25 am
I have been working more on my barres and am having the normal issues in general, but getting better. But I have something I would like to get some opinions on.

I have relatively long fingers plus the end joints bend backwards some. When playing a A shape barre, I struggle getting the third finger in just the right position. If I fret the strings where the tip is just below the fifth string, then I tend to fret the first string as well. When I attempt to raise the lower end enough to not fret but mute the first string (or even let it ring), the backward bend makes it a little difficult to position just right. I can get it, but it seems that I am usually applying more pressure than seems necessary or something.

Anyway, these are both overcome-able, but in trying to find the best way for me to to it, I have found this seems to work:     Since I only am using the index finger to fret the fifth string, I have found that if I position my hand where the two fingers are farther from the fret at the bottom than the tips, at maybe a 40 degree angle, my third finger frets the D-B strings well and almost automatically mutes the first string,

Does anyone see any inherent problem in doing it this way only on the A Major shape?  The others I use the first finger normally, so I a, only asking specifically about the A Major.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: mmmbert on December 14, 2012, 01:57:28 am
Also, I am mainly talking about Bb-C#, the lower frets. The F at the 8th fret and above for some reason give me less trouble doing it with my fingers perpendicular across the fretboard, which is good because there is not room to angle them anyway. :)

Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: kentl on December 14, 2012, 03:01:08 am
Also, I am mainly talking about Bb-C#, the lower frets. The F at the 8th fret and above for some reason give me less trouble doing it with my fingers perpendicular across the fretboard, which is good because there is not room to angle them anyway. :)
this is because the guitar is "tighter" closer to the neck and so the strings are harder to press down, the higher you go the less work you have to do to get it to sound right.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: fint72 on March 30, 2013, 03:20:16 pm
I thought the F chord was hard and then this!

Thing is I can almost get it, in fact I can get it but my hand is too straight. When I bend the knuckle as recommended by Justin I just cannot get enough strength to hold the strings down for any length of time. The effort of keeping my pinkie above the fret board and stretching my index finger to mute the lower E causes my knuckle to straighten out. It's so frustrating!

Is it just a matter of persisting until my hand is strong enough?
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Cuandoman on September 23, 2013, 08:38:01 am
Oddly enough, I actually found this easy.  I think it's all the drop-D rock tunes I've been playing.  I frequently use my index and ring finger in a similar way. 

As an example look up 'Outshined' by Soundgarden or really any SG song.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Majinn on September 27, 2013, 04:02:13 am
Hi,

Almost finished with intermediate part 3 and I think I have the A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip to a decent standard. The only thing I didn't get from the DVD is ...

- when do you use a-shape Maj barre chord grip? Do I need to read the music theory e-book to understand when those chords are typically used? and

- do this chord shape can only be played using 5th string root notes or are there a shape maj barre chord grip chords with a 4th string root note?

Thanks.

Majinn
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: sophiehiker on September 27, 2013, 12:28:56 pm
- when do you use a-shape Maj barre chord grip? Do I need to read the music theory e-book to understand when those chords are typically used?

Whenever you need a chord that has a fifth string root.  If you're playing the blues in A and you want to change to a D chord, it's easy to play the D chord as an a-shaped barre chord because it's just below the A on the sixth string.  You don't need the theory book to understand that, but reading the theory book is a good idea in any case.

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do this chord shape can only be played using 5th string root notes or are there a shape maj barre chord grip chords with a 4th string root note?

The a-shaped barre is used only on fifth string root notes.  In Intermediate part 5 you'll learn about triads that have their roots on the 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st strings.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: andy cooper on October 09, 2013, 07:12:04 pm
hi i am having trouble with the B chord, i thought i mastered it but no i have not
i seem to be getting a lot of buzzing,i do the pluck each string that's fine its when i strum not all the time though, thing is i have been fine with it its like i have gone back 6 months. thanks
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: stitch101 on October 09, 2013, 08:29:08 pm
If you were doing it fine before and having problems now then you have changed something.
You'll have to analyze what you've changed and go back to the way if was.

When was the last time you changed your strings? Old strings can give you buzzes and not stay in tune.
 
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: mouser9169 on October 09, 2013, 09:00:28 pm
If it sounds fine when you pluck each string, then buzzes when you strum the chord, the problem is your grip.

You're releasing the pressure on the strings when you start strumming - when you pick each note, you're really concentrating on holding down both barre's across the strings. When you start playing, I'll bet your posture changes just a little bit and your focus shifts from your fretting hand to your strumming hand.

Practice, practice, practice - pick each note, then strum. Get both perfect. Then do it again, strumming twice. And again...
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: TheReplicant on October 10, 2013, 12:26:57 pm
hi i am having trouble with the B chord, i thought i mastered it but no i have not
i seem to be getting a lot of buzzing,i do the pluck each string that's fine its when i strum not all the time though, thing is i have been fine with it its like i have gone back 6 months. thanks

As mouser says, you're probably releasing the tension of your grip as you play. It could also be that you just strum harder as you play than you do when single plucking. Try relaxing your strumming hand a little, or go for a lighter pick and see if that helps. If it doesn't, it's definitely your grip relaxing.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: ogabor on December 17, 2013, 10:05:27 pm
Hi!
I learned to play this chord shape from this lesson back about a year ago, for which I'm greatful.  :) Also I play it sometimes with my pinky if I need the high E string (it doesn't mute it like my 3rd finger).
However, a few days ago I had the chance to practice with a professional musician who looked horrified when I played it with a bar with my 3rd finger. He said that it will ruin my finger joint if I keep playing it like that and that I should use my 2nd, 3rd and 4th finger instead.
Does any of you have experience with such a problem, or heard of cases like that? I have more loose joints than average.
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: stitch101 on December 17, 2013, 10:28:55 pm
I've been playing A shaped Barre chords with my third finger and sometimes my pinky for over 35 years
and have never had a problem. Justin has been playing since he was 10 and he doesn't seem to have
any problems either.
What kind of music does this professional musician play? I don't know anyone who plays A shaped barre
chords with their 234 fingers.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: ogabor on December 17, 2013, 10:49:19 pm
Thanks for the quick answer!
He plays guitar and lyre for more than 30 years as a profession (classical, plus blues and jazz as a hobby), that's why I took his warning so seriously. So it's more of his personal... thingy I guess.  ::)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: FCBfan on March 20, 2014, 09:02:29 pm
Hi all,
First of all, to all of you who think they can't do it : YOU CAN ! Believe me. When I started out on the 5th string, I had the same problem as most of you.... "And I thought the F chord was hard ? This one is way harder and hurts more". Practice, Patience and Persistence.... Just don't give up. It took me and most of us, I think, a lot (!!!!) of time. And even now, I still get some buzzes from time to time. But I'm getting there.
So, just keep at it and try not to get too frustrated.

Secondly, a question towards a moderator or anyone else who may have an answer....

When using A shape majors on up strums, I keep hearing that muted 1st string. I mean, it's muted alright, but you always get that high pitched, kind of 'puck'-sound when the chord starts ringing out. I hope you understand what I mean. I find this annoying. Is this the way it's supposed to be played ? I mean, when I form, on the same fret a 7th, minor 7th or sus chord, the high e rings out nicely as it should, also on an upstrum.
I start to have the tendency to start the upstrum higher on the strings, towards the Second string, to avoid that muted sound of the high E. Any thoughts ? Thx !
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: misterg on March 20, 2014, 09:17:01 pm
There are 2 choices:

Fret the thin string cleanly with your index finger barre and lift your 3rd finger barre over this string enough for it to sound out;

Or:

Mute it completely by partially raising your 3rd finger.

It can still sound out if:

i) You don't lift your 3rd finger enough, and the note ends up being fretted by it;
ii) You lift your 3rd finger right up, but don't fret the note cleanly with the index finger barre.

If you figure out which of those is happening, you will have your answer! :)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: TB-AV on March 21, 2014, 03:45:19 am
Hi!
I learned to play this chord shape from this lesson back about a year ago, for which I'm greatful.  :) Also I play it sometimes with my pinky if I need the high E string (it doesn't mute it like my 3rd finger).
However, a few days ago I had the chance to practice with a professional musician who looked horrified when I played it with a bar with my 3rd finger. He said that it will ruin my finger joint if I keep playing it like that and that I should use my 2nd, 3rd and 4th finger instead.
Does any of you have experience with such a problem, or heard of cases like that? I have more loose joints than average.
Thanks in advance!

I don;t know about ruining your joint but some people do want you play the chord that way. It has a bit different sound... a bit 'truer' perhaps. It's obviously very hard to do way up the neck and it doesn't lend itself to playing some other rock oriented things. But yes...

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I start to have the tendency to start the upstrum higher on the strings, towards the Second string, to avoid that muted sound of the high E. Any thoughts ? Thx !

That is what I would do, if I didn't want to hear the note muted or ringing. Only other option is to remove the string which creates other problems.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: FCBfan on March 21, 2014, 12:13:35 pm
There are 2 choices:

Fret the thin string cleanly with your index finger barre and lift your 3rd finger barre over this string enough for it to sound out;

Or:

Mute it completely by partially raising your 3rd finger.

It can still sound out if:

i) You don't lift your 3rd finger enough, and the note ends up being fretted by it;
ii) You lift your 3rd finger right up, but don't fret the note cleanly with the index finger barre.

If you figure out which of those is happening, you will have your answer! :)

Thx for input, but it really is muted....
It makes exactly the same sound when muting only this high e string with eg your index finger and doing an upstrum. It's mainly on the acoustic, though. Because of the amplification on an electric, you won't hear it that much.
My question is : do you all just upstrum on an A shaped major as you would on an open chord , or avoid the high e as well ?
You can hear a clear difference when upstrumming from the first string upwards as opposed to an upstrum from the second string upwards.
I hope what I'm writing makes sense, is understandable.

Thank you !

Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: TB-AV on March 21, 2014, 03:06:46 pm
Yes, it makes sense. It's simply hard ot miss that string but if you can learn to simply strum the center 4 strings then do so. It depends on how you strum or even if you finger pick, you could pluck all 4 strings at once or do short strums. If you do long aggressive strums it's going to be much harder. But... aggressive strumming should be much more difficult to hear.

IOW, 'strumming' can be a very subtle thing and yes you could miss that string... or sometimes it will be very hard o miss it.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: stitch101 on March 21, 2014, 03:41:02 pm
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My question is : do you all just upstrum on an A shaped major as you would on an open chord , or avoid the high e as well ?
Strumming is a skill like everything else. Your going to have to learn many different approaches to it.
I personally do what ever the song I'm playing needs. If it's playing the A shaped barre chord so the
e string rings out. I play the e string as part of the chord. If the song requires just the inside 4 string
that what I play.

I don't know what level you're at or the type of music you play but you should learn how to play the
e string as part of the chord and learn how to miss it when needed. This is a more important skill for
acoustic than electric but still a skill you should have under your fingers.

Have you tried using your pinky instead of your ring finger?   
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: TheCasual on April 07, 2014, 10:56:30 pm
I seems like I'm one of the lucky ones. I've nailed this chord first go.

Although it just tired my hand out quick. It's just of building up the strength.

Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: CCameron13 on March 09, 2015, 10:17:55 pm
I actually learned it barring with my 4th finger. I believe I first started really doing it learning to play White Room by Cream, watching Clapton do it as someone mentioned earlier (years ago). Definitely makes it easier to get that 6th string some room to ring, although I agree that the chord usually sounds better without it. Often I even catch it with my thumb wrapped over the top of the neck, not necessarily on purpose but if it just so happens to be there from whatever position my hand was in last.. I haven't found much disadvantage to it just yet.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: lazi on March 23, 2015, 06:08:46 pm

I am also part of the "pinky" movement - it just seems so much easier- can anyone here tell me if there is a real disavantage? Also changing from E to A shape works quite well.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: shadowscott007 on March 25, 2015, 11:36:24 am
Justin often uses the pinky for the bar for this grip iF you watch his son lessons.  No disadvantages, but on occasion you will want to use your third finger so you can play a sus4 by fretting the note a half step higher than the barre on the second string.  So it is good thing to be ABLE to use your third finger for the barre to grab that note even if you normally play the barre with the pinky.

Shadow

Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: marzzz on March 31, 2015, 07:24:26 am
I have always played this barre chord with my third finger flat- bending the knuckle and arching it up is something of a revelation, because Justin is right about the wrist position. Now to try to unlearn my bad habit....
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: sadra on August 11, 2015, 12:26:06 pm
hi
i just wonder that why its so easy for me to get these A shape major chords.i easily do it! i can play the first string which justin told should be muted. so what should i do? should i mute it or let it sound?
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: shadowscott007 on August 11, 2015, 12:48:31 pm
@Sara

Depends.

As long as you are SURE the high e string note you are playing is the note under your index finger (same fret as the root note), you can go ahead and let it ring. 

But if it is the note under you ring finger (or pinky, depending on which you use) you should not let it ring.  That note turns the chord into a 6th chord, which won't work in a given song in many cases.

Shadow
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: stitch101 on August 11, 2015, 03:28:27 pm
hi
i just wonder that why its so easy for me to get these A shape major chords.i easily do it! i can play the first string which justin told should be muted. so what should i do? should i mute it or let it sound?

What Shadow and some people have very flexible fingers and have no problem bending it
backwards to lift it off the e string. If you aren't lifting it and playing the e string with the
BGD strings you're not doing it right.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: tobyjenner on November 11, 2015, 07:32:58 pm
Thought I'd better ask this question before getting into bad habits, assuming I am !

Although I'm struggling with the 3 string ring finger bar, on quite a few occasions I've found that I'm barring the 1st string with my index finger. Ok that's good but it seems very inconsistent and more likely to happen moving towards the nut, normally 5th to 1st fret - above the 5th I seem to lose the pressure.

Now I know from what Justin says that its ok not to play the 1st string and just play the chord with the A shape across strings 2 to 5 but should I worry about being inconsistent ? Will it stand out eg 5th fret D with all 5 strings followed by 7th fret E with just the 4 ?

I've only been working on this shape for 2-3 weeks and I'm trying to do the 1 minute changes real slow, to avoid the practice makes permanent, until I feel happy landing the shape. But should I be aiming for one or the other, given that I seem to be able to lift my ring finger clear of the 1st string?

Grateful of any pointers, as I don't want this to turn into another F Barre/BC Stage 6 Nemesis  8)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Joerfe on November 11, 2015, 10:00:12 pm
Having the e string ring in an A shaped barre is best to be avoided, imho. I do not think it sounds good and I am pretty sure I've heard it mentioned around here, maybe from Justin but I'm not sure.
If the sound of the e string doesn't bother you I wouldn't think more about it, but I'd practice to mute it.


/Jesper
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: shadowscott007 on November 11, 2015, 11:10:30 pm
The only thing to avoid is fretting the high e string with the third finger.

I don't think the difference between allowing the index barred e string to ring or not is going to be all that noticeable.  Well, EXCEPT to you, because you know it happens and it bugs you (i assume, you posted about it after all).  But an average listener will rarely, if ever notice.

I think it is admirable to make the effort to get that note working.  Mine is usually muted - more out of laziness than any strong feelings one way or another regarding the sound.  I can get it to wring with maximum effort and concentration, but in the moment grooving with a busyish rhythm it is mostly muted.

Shadow



Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: stitch101 on November 12, 2015, 12:50:20 am
If you can pull off playing the e that's great. Gives you to option of playing it or muting.
Personaly when playing  an electric with effects it really makes no differents.
But play clean or an acoustic sometimes you need the high e to ring out.
Don't let it hold you back as long as you're not barring the e string with you ring finger.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: tobyjenner on November 12, 2015, 07:52:27 pm
Thanks for the advice guys, as the text supporting this lesson was a bit ambiguous - well to me anyway. Its just the first time it happened I thought Hey thats sounded sweet but like I said it was inconsistent as to where it rang out depending where I was on the neck and of course if the index finger pressure was enough for a clean note!

Guess my way forward will be to practice this (ie 1st e string note as index barre) when I do the strum / pick exercise and see if can be more consistent up and down the neck. But I won't get hung up with the 1 minute changes and when I get to using it in songs - if its muted or clean just accept it for what it is.

Main issue at the moment is ensuring the low E is muted so I'll be focusing on that for now and let karma take care of whats happening down below - which is why I'm keeping the 1MCs slow until its second nature to stay in contact with the 6th string.  ;D

Cheers

Toby
8)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: tobyjenner on November 29, 2015, 06:46:50 pm
Damn, thought I'd nailed this as I've actually been using the chord in songs on my electrics but can I get it to ring clean on my acoustic? No !!! Feels like the top joint of my ring finger is too short to barre all 3 strings but guess I just need to work at it.

Anyway my question is, what should I be doing with my middle and pinkie ? At the moment they're standing out rigid like some messed up metal sign - o\o/ - I know I might need to use the pinkie for sus4s in the future but they just stick out like sentrys. Any tips on getting them to relax?

Toby
 8)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: slow-learner on April 10, 2016, 05:59:38 am
Okay, I have just found E-Barre chords today, but I have to say, I don't hold out much hope of ever being able to use the single-third-finger technique. You see, I've got these little hands ("There's no problem down there. No problem!") whose fingers don't being backward at the tip. And I don't mean not much, I mean not at all, and they never have. So the tip isn't large enough to cover the three strings, yet neither can I get more of my first segment down onto the stings.

Here's a pic.

(http://quoindesign.com/clientftp/IMG_6555.JPG)

Now, just so you don't think I'm just not pushing hard enough, here's another pic:

(http://quoindesign.com/clientftp/IMG_6556.JPG)

My fingers are small enough to fit three across on DGB, but of course I want to be able to change chords fast. Can anyone suggest anything or am I slave to my genes?

Thanks!

Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Drubbing on April 10, 2016, 07:21:34 am
Your hands are not too small, and even if they are, your fingers are long, which compensates. It's got nothing to do with genes and everything to do with technique. Nobody's finger tips bend back independently. Adjust your technique by moving the position of your wrist to allow your finger to lever back against the fretboard. It's the lower knuckle that creates the flex to plant the finger across the 3 strings, not the fingertip.

Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: suzidownunder on April 10, 2016, 09:32:49 am
@shadowscott007 .. Thanks for your feedback in this thread. I had my GS Mini set up but i think the nut is still not right since F I'd almost impossible to fret comfortably (no problem on other guitars) I also notice the action is twice as high at the bridge end than the neck which means all barre chords are a trial
I'll have a look at it when I get a moment.

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Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Katt_lo on April 10, 2016, 11:21:47 am
Hey guys!!
I'm new to the forum (actually this is my first post). This chord is a terrible nightmare. I know there are several ways to play this chord but I really want to play it with my index and ring fingers but it's just not going right. In the beginning it was almost impossible to get my ring finger to bend but thankfully i can bend it now (not as much as the rest of my fingers tho). It took me a while to get it to sound right and eventually it did but that process caused me alot of pain so i payed attention to me technique and i noticed that i used to bend my ring finger really far behind the neck. I would make this huge gap between my ring and pinky fingers. I figured that was the problem (maybe not) so I tried to break that habit and play with all of my fingers above the fretboard but it's just not working that way. I stopped getting the pains now but I can't get the g string to ring out clearly. No matter how much i press i can't get it to ring. I just feel like my ring is much weaker now that my pinky is not tugged behind. Is that a strength problem like? is it just a matter of practice? Or is it ok to go back to the first way. This is really frustrating, I feel like throwing my guitar across the room sometimes.  Oh and which side of my ring fingers should i press with? Any help is appreciated :)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: tobyjenner on April 11, 2016, 02:55:58 pm
HI Katt and welcome to the forum.

It took me a while to get that A barre and I had lots of probs with that G string but also the D. What worked for me was starting the 'ring' barre on the D and ensure it was clean then focused on the G then B. It took very small adjustments each time to get all 3 sounding ok. Personally I think the closer to the fret you can get the less pressure you need but that can be a stretch to start. Watch the 1 minute changes where Justin changes from E shape to A shape and you'll notice the A is angled a bit, Index finger closer to bridge, that may help as well. Keep practicing and let us know how you get on.

Toby
 8)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: willsie01 on August 29, 2016, 12:09:23 am
I've reached stage 3 of the intermediate course and the A shape barre chord.
It's a real killer. Nothing I've done so far approaches the difficulty of getting anywhere with this chord.
My third finger just won't slope up behind the first joint and it hurts like **** trying.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: Borodog on August 29, 2016, 12:12:32 am
Try your pinky instead. That's how I play them.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: TB-AV on August 29, 2016, 07:55:48 am
Yea, don't sweat the high strings.

Your issue is prob. the index finger.

Relax. catch the center 4 strings
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: stitch101 on August 29, 2016, 04:37:29 pm
TB-AV is right to you only really need the inside 4 strings. I believe Justin even mentions it in his
video.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: tobyjenner on August 29, 2016, 06:29:09 pm
Willsie

This gave my old hands loads of problems before I got it right. I even 'developed' a method of supporting a tablet with my ring finger's joint bent to force it back and take some weight! Eventually I heeded to words here of just forgetting about that high e and it all fell into place.

One thing I did discover, was my index barre was not parallel to the frets and the middle joint sat back slightly towards the neck. Just tweaking the barre a little, with middle joint just a bit closer to the fret and that e rang clean.............it wasn't the ring finger after all !!

Toby
 8)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: phpadmin on February 09, 2017, 10:02:01 pm
Explain me plaese why Justin muted the first string when he put the a-shaped barre chord? I watched the video lesson on "Nothing else matters" by metallica, the guy who teached this song also used this form of barre chord, but he played the first string too. (on the video you can see it on 3:25) How can i play it? I notice that when i use the ring finger to make a mini-barre i can not bend it to unmute the thinnest string. How do you play this song?)) Share your experience with me ;)


Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: DarrellW on February 09, 2017, 10:26:24 pm
If you really can't do the mini Barre you could try 2 3 4 for the Barre instead but it will probably slow you down, it takes a lot of practice to get it right but when you've got it it's worth the effort.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: phpadmin on February 09, 2017, 10:44:18 pm
If you really can't do the mini Barre you could try 2 3 4 for the Barre instead but it will probably slow you down, it takes a lot of practice to get it right but when you've got it it's worth the effort.
Just saw justin's lesson of nothing else matters. He does not use the first string while playing. Interesting because he has huge experience and up to now he does not play the chord correctly :)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: DarrellW on February 09, 2017, 10:52:16 pm
It's not a matter of whether the chord is being played correctly or not, it's down to if it's really needed and interpretation, maybe the other version isn't strictly correct. Like so many artists you very rarely hear them play exactly the same thing every time especially live!
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: SiegeFrog on February 10, 2017, 05:17:27 am
Have you watched this lesson? In it, Justin says it's difficult to consistently get the note on the high e string to ring cleanly. It's very dependent on finger size and flexibility. If you're going to use the minibar then most players don't bother with trying to get that note. They just let it stay muted. In most cases you won't miss it. I would not describe it as playing the chord incorrectly.


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Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: m_c on February 10, 2017, 09:39:23 pm
To look at the theory of why you don't need the high e string, your standard major chord consists of the first (I), third(III) and fifth(V), which in the case of A Major, is A (your I), C# (III) and E (IV). Now in open position, from lowest to highest you play A, E, A, C#, and E.
Take away the high E, you do lose the higher pitched E, but you still have an E on the 4th string, so you still have enough notes to make an A major chord.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: captainamerica on March 04, 2017, 05:54:08 pm
Just started IM-3 and can do the A-shape without a lot of difficulty as long as I don't try to place it down too quickly.  My ring finger looks like roast beef on the bottom if I hold the shape for too long.

I think the hardest challenge with this chord will be to quickly form it on the fretboard and stay in timing with a rhythm/song.  No idea why, but a few of the open chords I find can sometimes be harder than the bar chords. ???

Since the top and bottom E strings are muted, when strumming should the player just try to aim and not hit those strings?
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: SiegeFrog on March 04, 2017, 07:46:27 pm
The low E should be muted with the tip of your index finger and the high e by the underside. That said, you should aim to start your strum on the A string.


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Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: willferral on May 23, 2017, 10:41:43 pm
I had a pretty easy time with this shape I guess my fat fingers are good for something. However, I find this chord painful on my hand and hard to do up at the first fret [ A#]. Is that an indication my technique is wrong?

I also had a hard time doing my power chords at that fret. I noticed I was hitting my hand up against the nut [ I've got a metal locking nut Floyd rose]so I changed how I play them and straightened my wrist and play them more like a bar chord. It hurt for a while, but it doesn't hurt anymore and I don't jam my finger up against the nut anymore.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: batwoman on July 12, 2017, 06:33:19 am
I don't seem to have made much progress with this shaped barre chord. I've watched the lesson again and scanned this thread. Part of my problem is that I get so disgusted with myself when I don't get a good sound first try, so I have a hissy fit and stop trying. Yeah, yeah I know I've got to persevere  :)

If I take my time, sometimes I get a good sound, then it all vanishes if I do my One Minute Changes. There's no way I could play it in a song.
 
I don't want to modify it. I'm intent on playing it properly as its taught and I want a clear sound on the high E.

Part of the problem is that my fingers won't stretch 'sideways' enough to press just behind the fret with my third finger. I know I need to do more finger gym to help with that. 

I'm wondering if any of you have found ways of gently making the finger joints more flexible?

Feeling frustrated  >:(
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: close2u on July 12, 2017, 06:44:23 am
@ batwoman

In general, the high note is the least important to have ring out - for now. Concentrate fully on getting Root plus the 3-barre notes ringing clean and true. And shifting between this chord shape up / down / after / before open & other barres etc.
This usage will help your 3rd (or even your 4th which I frequently use to barre on the A-shape) working properly. Then, in time, you will find it easier to begin to get that high note ringing out..
If the high note is vital to the sound you're after, ditch the barre shape and play as a four string chord with index on thin e string, then the 3-together and mute A / E strings.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: DarrellW on July 12, 2017, 06:45:21 am
Part of my problem is that I get so disgusted with myself when I don't get a good sound first try, so I have a hissy fit and stop trying. Yeah, yeah I know I've got to persevere  :)
 
I'm wondering if any of you have found ways of gently making the finger joints more flexible?
1) That always makes me giggle :)
2) Try putting your fretting fingers flat on the table and gradually tilt your hand upwards keeping your fingers flat, then when you can't go any further let your finger joints flex. Next make a claw shape and gradually try to get you finger tips to touch your big joint with your palm.
Those are exercises I do to help with early stages of arthritis, they work OK for me.
This is a bit more detailed:
http://www.healthline.com/health/osteoarthritis/arthritis-hand-exercises#treatments2
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: stitch101 on July 12, 2017, 03:47:51 pm
I agree with close. The e string is the least important note in the A shaped barre chord.
You 'll find the better you get at playing the guitar the less strings you'll use when playing.
What I mean is once you start learning chord invertions and playing up the neck you'll find
less is more and sounds sweeter.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: batwoman on July 13, 2017, 03:30:53 am
Thanks very much Close, Darrell and stitch. Your advise and comments have helped a lot. Most of all I need to persevere, doing a little bit every day. I also need to be patient with myself on the days it doesn't sound as good as I expect. Like the tortoise, I'll keep plodding along till I reach my prize.

Stitch it's interesting you mention inversions. I have 25 of the little darlings to learn. There's a D7 on the 10th fret that has completely defied me to get any sound other than plunk, plunk, plunk.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: jeff00 on September 23, 2017, 01:27:08 am
Strangely enough, when playing the A shaped bar chord my pinky ends up muting the high E string. The flesh near the base of my pinky (near the hand) inadvertently touches the string. How do you keep it out of they way? Sometimes I find it comfortable to overlap it with the ring finger, but I don't see anyone else doing it that way. Is that a bad habit I should be avoiding?
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: sairfingers on April 07, 2019, 05:52:44 pm
I’m finding this chord shape easier if I use fingers 1 and 4 rather than 1 and 3. If I continue playing it this way will this cause an issue/problem/difficulty in the future?
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: close2u on April 08, 2019, 07:56:36 am
@ sair

I use 1 and 4 often, 1 and 3 also.
With 1 and 4 you can't ever play the chord and add on a sus4 or a high e string 7 but it is fine in most circumstances.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: sairfingers on April 09, 2019, 01:07:05 pm
Thanks for that close. I’ll persevere with fingers 1 and 3 then. I don’t want to compromise things later on and have to relearn the chord shape. The 1 and 4 can be an extra.
I’m probably getting ahead of myself as I’m currently consolidating the beginners course and intend sticking at that for a while yet before getting stuck into the intermediate course. The overlap is the fact I need Bm for a lot of the songs I like, so I thought I’d give the A major shape a go at the same time as the minor shape.
To quote your mantra I’m busy learning songs, songs, songs!
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: stitch101 on April 09, 2019, 04:49:03 pm
Until you get the A and Am shaped barre chords down.
You can play the B and Bm at the 7th fret E shape barre chord.
Just move the F chord up to the 7th fret and play the minor shape.
I'm assuming you can play the F barre chord.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: sairfingers on April 09, 2019, 05:04:00 pm
I'm assuming you can play the F barre chord.
Oh stitch! Don’t you remember? It was your tips that got me playing barre F.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: stitch101 on April 09, 2019, 05:45:29 pm
Just following up on whether you followed my advice or not.  ;)

Title: Forget high E...muted B string is what I have trouble with
Post by: makingmark on July 04, 2019, 10:46:39 pm
Hi, I have a challenge I haven’t seen anyone mention: muted B string (NOT the high E).

I find it almost funny that not having to let the high E ring out is a revelation for so many....I can’t seem to fret this barre shape without it ringing! Rather, the challenge I have is consistently getting the *B string* to sound. It’s a problem because it is very much needed in the chord (example, B major chord, B D# F#, is x B F# B D# x with the high E muted, you need the B string to be an D# at the 5th fret. Otherwise it’s just a B5, no major third).

I suspect it may be because I have small hands (mens size 7.5 gloves) and so my ring finger may be shorter than average...which, perhaps lets the high E ring out, but also means it is hard to cover all 3 strings with just the first segment. Also the action on my GS Mini is a bit high right now (8/64 at 12th fret...I’m awaiting a neck reset) so that probably doesn’t help.

I’ve tried snugging my finger closer to the fret and angling it away towards the nut, neither of which helped. What seems to work best is consciously focusing on slightly rocking my ring finger back not to apply more pressure, but to distribute it more towards the B (vs the D). Definitely have work to do in making it unconscious (i.e. automatic). And it’s subtle - can’t be too much or then the D string gets muted....
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: makingmark on July 05, 2019, 02:24:02 am
...and I see that Justin suggested exactly that (bring the ring finger knuckle down a bit from being bent back too much...)...it’s just buried towards the end of the video, at around 12:55. Kinda think this deserves at least as much focus as whether the high E string is muted or not, since that doesn’t really matter from a chord purity sake. (It’s still the chord, albeit different sounding, if the high E isn’t there...but it’s not, if the B isn’t).
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: JerryBels on December 24, 2019, 07:06:23 pm
Hello good people!

In this lesson Justin teaches Major A shape Barre chord, and I thought he was saving minor for next module.... Turns out he didn't. I was unable to find a lesson talking about these minor A shape barre chords.

So I guess it's the same as the E shape, except it starts on the 5th string. But yet shouldn't it be somewhere, for one minute changes and getting used to it?

Did I miss something?

Thanks!  8)
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: sairfingers on December 24, 2019, 08:15:06 pm
Did I miss something?
Lesson IM-141.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: sairfingers on December 24, 2019, 08:15:40 pm
Lesson IM141.
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: JerryBels on December 24, 2019, 10:50:30 pm
Lesson IM-141.

Oh , it's included with all the 7 chords... I was too impatient, wasn't I? ;) Thanks!
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: iamyong on March 23, 2020, 09:21:30 am
am trying to learn this but it's a nightmare :'(
Title: Re: IM-131 • A Shape Major Barre Chord Grip
Post by: sairfingers on March 24, 2020, 10:33:15 am
am trying to learn this but it's a nightmare :'(
Don’t worry, it’s taken me the best part of a year to get this shape down! I still struggle a bit with B and B flat as the frets are further apart. In fact I’m currently nursing a painful thumb muscle from over practicing!