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Title: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: justinguitar on October 09, 2009, 09:08:26 am
Lesson Link: http://justinguitar.com/en/BS-805-Wonderwall-Oasis.php

Questions...


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Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: cordan on October 11, 2009, 10:31:09 pm
Hi!

Thanks for such a great song! You didn't tell one thing in that video - how can anyone keep pressing the same strings throughout the whole tune without cutting them in halves?! (I mean 3rd and 4th fingers) :D
And the strumming in the rest of the song isn't as simple as I hoped it would be, but I guess it just takes some time and effort to figure it out completely :)
BTW on the youtube there's a great acoustic version of this song, played by some no-name band, but worth seeing anyway :)

That's my first post on this forum, so hello to everyone! :) I hope that I didn't make too many errors, my English is still not as it should be ;) But I'm working on it ;)
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: mike42 on October 12, 2009, 02:51:27 am
Cordan-

It's going to be tough to keep those strings pressed down at first, but after you've practiced it a while your fingers will toughen up and it will get easier.

The strumming pattern is basically based around that intro pattern, so once you get the song down a little better try strumming along with the record and you'll pick up some little variations that he does.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: myfingertipshurt on October 12, 2009, 05:57:37 am
Ok, I'm one of those people who deviate from the lesson and look at everything the internet has to offer on the subject (though this is my main place).

Is A7sus4 properly

EADGBe

x02233 (as it appears in the video)

or
x02033 (as I seem to be seeing it all over the place)

I'm banking on Justin is doing it right but you never know, maybe it only looks like he's holding down a string, or maybe both versions are right and I just don't understand music theory, or maybe it's a common mistake for this song, or maybe I'm missing something like that but completely different, so I just wanted to ask.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: close2u on October 12, 2009, 06:30:42 am
they're both technically correct as they both have a flat 7th note added

I think Justin is playing the 1st one

I play the 2nd one but don't know for certain if it's an exact match for the record

Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: myfingertipshurt on October 14, 2009, 09:30:25 am
So x02033 is A7sus4 flat?
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: zkash_guitarist on October 15, 2009, 12:44:57 pm
So x02033 is A7sus4 flat?
No you got it wrong. A dominant 7th chord has the flattened 7th and so does a min7 chord(but includes the flattened third). A maj7 chord has the normal 7th(a g# in the key of a).
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: close2u on October 16, 2009, 06:26:19 am
.....  Is A7sus4 properly

EADGBe

x02233 (as it appears in the video)

or
x02033 (as I seem to be seeing it all over the place)


Thinking without capo ... to make it easier ...

x02233  ... notes played = A, E, A, D, G

x02033   ... notes played = A, E, G, D, G

same notes, same chord

 :)


Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Neckruler on November 09, 2009, 06:18:07 pm
 ;DHi. Great song but I have an alternative if you don't have a capo (a.k.a me!). It starts of like:
Am C G D for the verse
F G Am Am for the bridge
F Am C Am for the chorus. It works, I've tried! Cheers 8). NeckRuler
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Neckruler on November 12, 2009, 06:10:39 pm
Forgot to mention that there is a change during the bridge that goes

F                     G               C                         Am                      D   
There are many things that I would like to say to u but I don't know how.

   ;D Hope thats OK.
Rhys
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: mattinoz on January 01, 2010, 06:52:40 am
I hate to ask this but I've been struggling with this for a while & I really want to have this song nailed before I go back to work in another week.

Anywho... I have the strumming down for the intro, verses & I think I have it right for the first part of the chorus right up to where it goes G D/F# Em7 Asus4. After that  I'm a little stumped.
So if anyone can help me out with Cadd9 Em7 G Em7 sequence I'd really appreciate.

Cheers, Matt.

(& a Happy New Year :) )

Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Tourniquet on January 01, 2010, 08:51:52 am
try this

1+2+3+4+1+2+3+4+
d d d dudud d du


the first bar covers cadd9, the second bar covers em7. repeat for G,em7
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: gute on January 09, 2010, 10:14:32 am
Hi,
First of all, I wanted to say thanks for everything you are doing here.
I'm really new at this and your site helps me a lot. Especially with this song - I've seen many lessons on Youtube, but yours is definitely the best. The parts you explained I can do perfectly,
I just have a problem with the strumming variations you didn't show how to play.
If you could please just right down the right way to play it (like you did with the usual strumming), I'm sure I will manage.

Thanks again
and have a great year
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 13, 2010, 03:51:52 pm
Most of the song is like this:
D-D-D-DU|DUD-D-DU|DUD-D-DU|-U-UDUDU I think.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: misterg on March 13, 2010, 05:39:45 pm
What I have (from the bottom of Justin's "tab" is:

Code: [Select]
Em                  G                 D            A                 
D  (D)   D   D U  D U D    D   D U  D U D    D   D U    U   U  D U D U
X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X

The chord changes happen on the up-strums.

(Note the chord names are abbreviations for Em7, Dsus4 &  A7sus4)

HTH

Andy
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: gheywood on March 18, 2010, 09:36:21 pm
I thought it was:

Emin DDDDUD
G UDDDUD
D UDDD
A UUDUDUDU

Is that not right?
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 18, 2010, 10:13:00 pm
Doesn't look like it's right.
Em7: D-D-D-DU
G: DUD-D-DU
Dsus4: DUD-D-DUD
A7sus4: U-U-UDUDU

If you want the Cadd9 D A7sus4 variation pattern (after verse 1) just ask me.
I might have added too many strums on some chords.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: gheywood on March 19, 2010, 11:09:54 pm
Doesn't Justin recommend always changing on the up? So the first would be a U? Or was that only for the first change?
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Cue Zephyr on March 19, 2010, 11:11:39 pm
I think that's correct, but you don't have to do that for the Dsus4-A7sus4 change, because you'll only be adding your index finger on the 4th string.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: cehu on May 15, 2010, 11:32:39 pm
some help with the strumming pattern please... when he does the C D A
I got the verse going great but on the pre-chorus when he sings ''And all the roads that lead you there were winding.... '' i have no clue how to strum to make it sound right

thank you


Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: zeitgeist1 on May 23, 2010, 06:36:27 am
I use basically the same strumming pattern as the one used in the verse.  I'm not certain that's exactly how it is played on the record, but it sounds fairly close, and in any event it sounds cool.  
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Jokerman on August 08, 2010, 07:48:03 am
Well, this is how I play it and it sounds nice, although it's probably not exactly like the record, it's an easy strum pattern. The lower-case letters means a stroke which mostly hits the bass strings, from E to G; and lower-case letters and italic means a stroke that mostly hits the treble strings, from D to e.

The verse would be like:

(Em7) ddD (G) UDUdD (Dsus4) ududd (A7sus4) UUU DU (A7sus4") DU


The first ending line of the verse will be:

(Cadd9) ddD (Dsus4) ududd (A7sus4) UDUdD UUU DU (A7sus4") DU


You'll be playing that only once in the whole song, the rest of the ending lines will all be played like the verse. The bridge will go like this:

(Cadd9) UddD (Dsus4) ududd (Em7) UddD UDUdD

(Cadd9) UddD (Dsus4) ududd (Em7) UddD UDUdD

(Cadd9) UddD (Dsus4) ududd (G) Udd (Dsus4/F#) D (Em7) UDUd (G) D

(A7sus4) UddD UDUdD UddD UDUdD


And the chorus:

(Cadd9) UddD (Em7) UDUdD (G) UddD (Em7) UDUdD

(Cadd9) UddD (Em7) UDUdD (G) UddD (Em7) U


After that last upstroke on the Em7, hold it and let it ring for a while then start again beginning with:

(A7sus4) UUU DU (A7sus4") DU


Just repeat everything one more time but without playing that alternative ending line from the first verse because it is played only once. The trick to the A7sus4 on the verse is to play it like xx2233 and before the last two strokes you quickly change to A7sus4 = xx2033, meaning you just release the third string by lifting you finger before the last two strokes...
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: sambamamia on September 20, 2010, 02:21:05 pm
hello i noticed justin showed the rythem pattern for the verse chords. but he didn't show the pattern for the pre chorus and the chorus it self, when it starts with cadd9 chord and so.

so can anyone tell me how to strum there? (D, U and so?)

ty !!! :D
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Phalanx on September 20, 2010, 02:56:53 pm
I'm not sure there is a strict pattern, when I learned this song a few months ago I just kept the same strumming pattern as the Em7-G-Dsus4-A7sus4 part. Just mix it up and listen if it sounds good. It's probably not exactly like the record, but who would know the difference other than you? It's all about the vibe. :)
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Cue Zephyr on September 20, 2010, 03:02:45 pm
It's D-D-DUDU-U-UD-D-DUD-D-DU-UD-D- or something like that. I love this variation.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Valiant on July 20, 2011, 08:07:55 pm
Hello all!

The mostly known basic strumming pattern of Wonderwall by Oasis is well known to me.

Problem is, in this song there is not just 1 strumming pattern. It has a different strumming pattern at the end of each verse which I just can't identify.

Plus, there is a different pattern for the chorus.

I'm having a real hard time finding any instruction video on what these patterns are. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

-Mark
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: irishalkies on July 20, 2011, 09:07:36 pm
Listen to the song Valiant, then listen again, and again, and again, until the sound of it is in your head.

Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: misterg on July 20, 2011, 10:08:06 pm
Hello & welcome :)

I thought you were off to learn "Wonderful Tonight", instead  ;) ;D

1) Listen (as above)

2) Don't sweat on it - the pattern doesn't *need* to match the original. Close enough is good enough.

Andy
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: mattywarr on July 20, 2011, 11:55:03 pm
If it sounds good, it is good :-)
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Valiant on July 21, 2011, 08:00:30 pm
I am off learning Wonderfull tonight next to Wonderwall. My teacher says that I should not only practise Wonderwall alone, but I should practise at least two songs :)

I'm talking about the same teacher who referred me to Justin to learn to play the guitar online more, so I guess he's got great advices all over:)

It's difficult trying to get Wonderwall just right with every strumming pattern in place and all that while I've never used a guitar in my life before. I'm putting in around 2 or 3 hours per day of practise on Wonderwall alone. When I looked up Wonderfull tonight, I felt like I got struck by lightning: OMG!! It's so much to learn!:)

Anyways, I'm repeating the wonderwall song untill my ears are bleeding and I'm going slightly mad (queen referrance!), but i'm making slow progress.
I'm still on the lookout for some video where someone just shows it......pure easymode bliss :) And NO, I'm not waiting around and doing nothing in the mean time :)

-Mark
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: 52 Tele on July 22, 2011, 07:22:58 pm
If you watch a few vids of Noel playing it live on acoustic, it's never identical anyway. If you have the right 'feel' or vibe of the song it will be cool.

We want the Valiant version anyway not the 10,000th clone. ;)

Good luck...I'll have a go alongside the record later this week though and try and write down the strumming pattern. I never really analyse strumming mind, I think it's about the 'feel'.

When is the wedding?

James
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Valiant on July 24, 2011, 08:03:59 pm
The wedding is on the 9th of september.

I don't really mind being a 'clone'. I'm happy enough that I acually can play a song on the guitar and that people can recognise it for what it is. I do have to get more skill in the strumming so it acually sounds like...a song at all! So hey, yeah.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Valiant on July 24, 2011, 09:14:29 pm
This is a very bad recording of a very bad me trying to play.
Nevertheless, I'm brave enough to post it since I am looking for help. I clearly have trouble with the speed...the clearness and strum patterns.

Help!

http://soundcloud.com/valiantshield/wonderwall-acoustic-practising
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 24, 2011, 11:04:40 pm
I'd say 'close enough' isn't good enough for this one.
Why?
Because Wonderwall is one of those songs that is so recognizable in it's strumming pattern. ;)
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: misterg on July 24, 2011, 11:06:40 pm
OK, I listened.

I didn't think it was too bad, especially at the beginning, but the really big thing you could do to improve it is to sort out muting the low E string when it isn't needed.

Justin uses the thumb on his fretting hand to mute the low E string on the 'D' and 'A' chords, and the tip of his 2nd finger for the 'C' chord.

Justin doesn't make a big thing of this in the lesson, but you can see him doing it in when he plays the song at the start of the lesson (look at his left thumb), and when he demonstrates the 'C' chord (look at the tip of his 2nd finger on his left hand).

When you get that sussed, try playing along with the record to get the rhythm, and you should be there :)

Andy

Cue: Close enough to be recognisable, but it doesn't have to match every detail of the original - It's all in the vibe, yes ??



Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: close2u on July 25, 2011, 07:14:55 am
check out the versions posted in this guitar challenge thread

http://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=15733.0

and maybe post yours their too when you feel more confident about it

 :)
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: ddudek on April 09, 2013, 08:20:51 pm
I need help!  Love this song!  Got the beginning down good, but having some trouble on the strumming pattern starting with..."and all the roads we have to walk are winding"...all the way through..."cuz maybe you're gonna be the one who saves me".   I know the notes to play there, but I can't seem to get a good rhythm of strumming down, and I'm not good enough YET to make up my own.  Any help is so much appreciated!!!  Thanks!! 
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: pipsickle on January 13, 2014, 04:33:50 pm
This might be a slightly cheeky question, as the answer is probably just play the version in the book for now/ listen to the recording and try to transcribe it ... but does anyone know whether the Ryan Adams cover of this song uses the same chords?

I'm only on stage 8 of the beginners course so I should probably just hold my horses for now  :D
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: BrooklynRyan on January 16, 2014, 06:58:27 pm
What I have (from the bottom of Justin's "tab" is:

Code: [Select]
Em                  G                 D            A                 
D  (D)   D   D U  D U D    D   D U  D U D    D   D U    U   U  D U D U
X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X  X X X X

The chord changes happen on the up-strums.

(Note the chord names are abbreviations for Em7, Dsus4 &  A7sus4)

HTH

Andy


This ties into my question.  This is the strumming pattern that Justin goes over on the video lesson--changes on the up strums.  However, in my version of the beginners song book, the tab (page 171) shows the change to the Dsus4 coming on the down strum.  Is this a typo in the book?  Or did Justin just show all the changes as up strums in the video lesson to make things a bit easier/consistent?




Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: BrooklynRyan on January 16, 2014, 07:51:03 pm
I apologize, I know this has been asked but it's still unclear to me.  What is the strumming pattern for the Cadd9, Dsus4 A7sus4 bit at the end of the first verse?  And if anyone has the strumming pattern for the bridge please post it.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: misterg on January 18, 2014, 11:30:14 am
I've misplaced my beginner's song book at the moment ( :( ), so I can't check on the pattern there.

Just remember that the strumming hand *always* moves with a steady down-up-down-up movement - it should be moving down on the beat in this song, and again on the 'ands' between the beats (since it is a 16th note strumming pattern).

If you listen carefully to the original while moving your hand like that^ (either with the strings muted on the guitar, or just 'air guitar style), you will be able to pick out where the strumming falls - It won't come straight away, but it's a useful skill to practice that will let you break free of strings of Ds and Us.

In any case, the aim is to make it sound 'right', whatever pattern that ends up being - i.e. concentrate on making the sound using whatever it takes from your (steadily moving) strumming hand without worrying about down and ups, rather than making your hand perform a series of down and up strums, then trying to fit that to the music.

Slowing the original down and playing along to it will likely help. (There are several free ways of doing this, including plain old Windows media player).
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: mike42 on January 18, 2014, 09:58:45 pm
Just remember that the strumming hand *always* moves with a steady down-up-down-up movement - it should be moving down on the beat in this song, and again on the 'ands' between the beats (since it is a 16th note strumming pattern).

If you listen carefully to the original while moving your hand like that^ (either with the strings muted on the guitar, or just 'air guitar style), you will be able to pick out where the strumming falls - It won't come straight away, but it's a useful skill to practice that will let you break free of strings of Ds and Us.

In any case, the aim is to make it sound 'right', whatever pattern that ends up being - i.e. concentrate on making the sound using whatever it takes from your (steadily moving) strumming hand without worrying about down and ups, rather than making your hand perform a series of down and up strums, then trying to fit that to the music.

I just want to say that approaching strumming this way, rather than the whole "DDDUDUDD" approach, improved my playing immensely and I'm not sure who first gave me the tip, but it's probably the best guitar-related advice I've received. Being able to listen to a song and just start strumming along with it really helps to improve your ear and, in my opinion at least, makes your playing sound much more natural than if you are trying to think "DUD" or whatever as you're playing.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: BrooklynRyan on February 12, 2014, 12:52:29 am
I don’t want to come across as a jerk but it’s frustrating when you ask someone a black and white question (do you have the strumming pattern featured on the record for XYZ part of a song) and they don’t respond with a definitive answer.  It’s analogous to asking someone for directions and the person starts extolling the benefits of map reading.  Yes, I’ve listened to the song over and over (in capo).  I’ve attempted to strum along with the song so many times that I’ve begun to lose my marbles.  It’s a blow to the ego to not be able to “get” something but getting good at these skills takes years—especially with an offbeat rhythm / shifting pattern.  In the meantime, I want to play the song correctly.  No sense in using a subpar strumming pattern just to unlearn the muscle memory later.  There are endless videos on youtube with the opening strumming pattern but everyone leaves out the strumming pattern at the end of the first verse and the bridge/chorus or they dumb it down so much that it doesn’t even sound like the song.  This is an iconic song.  Is it too much to ask for a complete lesson?
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Melsie on February 12, 2014, 01:17:39 am
I apologize, I know this has been asked but it's still unclear to me.  What is the strumming pattern for the Cadd9, Dsus4 A7sus4 bit at the end of the first verse?  And if anyone has the strumming pattern for the bridge please post it.

Hey Ryan, I play the whole song with the 4 bar repeating pattern Justin describes in the video i.e.
D   D   D   D U
D U D   D   D U
D U D   D   D U
  U   U D U D U


where the change into the second and third bars is delayed by half a beat, and the change into the 4th bar is pushed half a beat. The only deviation I use is in the bridge, which I think is this progression:
Cadd9               Dsus4            Em7             Em7
Cadd9               Dsus4            Em7             Em7
Cadd9               Dsus4            G | Dadd4/F#    Em7
A7sus4              A7sus4           A7sus4          A7sus4


For the bridge, I still use the same pattern but I don't delay the change to the G chord by half a beat; I change to it on the 1. I don't know if it's exactly what's on the record but it sounds ok to me.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: mike42 on February 13, 2014, 12:33:24 am
@ BrooklynRyan-

I do apologize for not giving you a specific set of strums to follow, but I don't have a specific pattern that I follow and I never really analyze strumming patterns with the 'DU' notation thing so I thought I'd try to help by giving some more general guidance. Hopefully Melsie's post will be more beneficial to you.

It may not be the simple solution you were searching for, but misterG and I were trying to give you advice that will help you strum along to any song, not just Wonderwall.

While a set strumming pattern will get you playing along to this song more quickly, the next time you come across a complex pattern you'll have to go look up the pattern for that, and on and on to no end. To use your map analogy, if I tell you to take a left, right, then another left you might get to your destination this time, but you still won't be able to read the map and I'll have to give you directions again when it becomes right, left, then right.

When I first started playing I approached it the way you are doing now, but after a while I realized that was not the best way to go about it and after practicing what misterG has outlines above I was able to avoid the D's and U's for the most part. It shouldn't take years to improve to the point where you can figure out most any song in a reasonable amount of time. It might be slow going at first but it'll pay off.

 
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: misterg on February 13, 2014, 11:01:08 pm
...  No sense in using a subpar strumming pattern just to unlearn the muscle memory later...


Just to pick up on that: Strumming patterns most definitely *aren't* muscle memory (IMHO) - it's all about the groove and the rhythm of the song. Sure, you need to get the mechanics of your 1/16th note strumming down until it is rock solid (by practicing with a metronome, etc.), but whether you strum on a particular beat, and if so, how hard is determined by feel, rather than any specific pattern. You *don't* need to have the "correct" pattern from the start - just play the song (4 down strums, even), and as you get more relaxed and confident with it, you'll gradually be able to add or miss strums to get it sounding as close to the original as you wish.

To pick up on your directions / map reading analogy (and to try and assure you that I'm not being awkward! :) ) It feels like we've given you the directions, but now you want to know how many footsteps to take, and whether you should move the right foot or the left foot first ;)

I haven't got anything written down about strumming patterns other than what I've already posted. There are some excellent suggestions above (and on the previous page), so you have something to work on.

Good luck, whatever, and stick with it. :)
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: w_ww_me on July 06, 2014, 12:30:42 pm
The strumming pattern for Verse 1 is:

E                 G                   D             A

DDDDUD      UDDDUD       UDDD      UUUDUDU

But at the end there is a variation -  Cadd9    Dsus4     A7sus4   

What is the strumming pattern for  the end of Verse 1?

Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 06, 2014, 02:46:18 pm
Cadd9      Dsus4      A7sus4
D-D-D-DU DUD-D-D- DUD-D-DU-UD-DUD-

Something like that is what I can pick up from the recording.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: w_ww_me on July 08, 2014, 07:07:15 pm
I can play the intro -

E                      G                 D                     A
DDD DUD          UDDDUD     UDDD              UUU DUDU

Simples.

I can't get my head around the end of verse 1, verse 2 is the same as the intro so that's okay and the rest of if; I just don't get it.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Cue Zephyr on July 09, 2014, 12:50:55 pm
That's how I play the end of verse 1.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: mlerrigo on July 19, 2015, 12:04:31 pm
Hi all

When I have my 3rd and 4th(little) finger down continuously to play (as per Justin's video) the song they tend to slip apart from each other at an angle causing the e and b strings to not play properly. Is this me not gripping correctly or does it come with practice? Anybody else have the same problem?

Thanks

Matt
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: ArtSharon on August 18, 2017, 10:09:08 pm
Not sure if anyone will see this post -- but I have a question with respect to Wonderwall -- I find that it's hard for it not to sound muddled and tinnie -- because of the pinkie playing the high G -- any suggestions?
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: close2u on August 18, 2017, 10:18:40 pm
@Art

There's really no good way around it as the distinctive sound needs those chord shapes holding

Keep practicing
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: diggy87 on January 10, 2020, 08:29:02 am
Sorry for opening an old thread up

I've just purchased the book (I'm new to playing) I cant really understand the bars etc in the book, should I be playing 1 bar per chord or 2 chords per bar?

Also it seems a short version in the book, or is it the full length song just minus the solo/outro at the end? (I should probably point out that I haven't played it yet, the book arrived last night so I've only had a look through it)

Tia
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: Rossco01 on January 10, 2020, 10:26:29 am
@digg87 If you look at the book you'll see there are two chords between vertical lines... this means you have to play two chords per bar. This is the same throughout the book.

It's the full song minus intro/outro.. just repeat the chord progression once or twice for intro and outro.

To really get this song sounding like it should you need to read the Strumming section and get that pattern down. It looks complicated but it's not too bad (depending on experience). Watch the video that Justin put together it'll make it much easier.

If you look at the chord diagrams you'll see you only ever move fingers 1&2 throughout the song.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: close2u on January 10, 2020, 10:33:40 am
Hi and welcome to the forum.

Sorry for opening an old thread up

No apology needed on any of these lesson specific threads - they may be dormant but are still very relevant and necessary. :)

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(I'm new to playing)


How new?
Wonderwall is a Stage 8 song with a complicated 16th note strumming pattern ... what stage are you at currently?
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: diggy87 on January 10, 2020, 10:39:09 am
@ Rossco01


Thank you that makes a lot more sense :)
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: diggy87 on January 10, 2020, 10:42:40 am
@ close2u

Well I started playing in October, I've been slowly working through the Fender play course (just finished level 2) and I have also worked my way through Justins level one course.
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: close2u on January 10, 2020, 11:57:12 am
@ close2u

Well I started playing in October, I've been slowly working through the Fender play course (just finished level 2) and I have also worked my way through Justins level one course.

I'm not familiar with Level 2 of the Fender play course ... but Stage 1 of Justin's beginner course is not a sufficient platform for learning Wonderwall to be honest.
There is nothing wrong with looking ahead and aiming to play songs you love ... though that needs tempering with realistic expectation and the avoidance of frustration and disappointment.
Can I suggest you build up to it by following the learning path Justin has perfected over years of teaching ... and do the beginner course as laid out.
:)
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: close2u on January 10, 2020, 11:59:56 am
I have uploaded my breakdown of the main strum pattern for intro / verses as a pdf here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ryeazgr44cl8a1/Oasis%20-%20Wonderwall%20main%20strumming%20pattern.pdf?dl=0

:)
Title: Re: BS-805 • Wonderwall (Oasis)
Post by: diggy87 on January 10, 2020, 01:57:22 pm
I'm not familiar with Level 2 of the Fender play course ... but Stage 1 of Justin's beginner course is not a sufficient platform for learning Wonderwall to be honest.
There is nothing wrong with looking ahead and aiming to play songs you love ... though that needs tempering with realistic expectation and the avoidance of frustration and disappointment.
Can I suggest you build up to it by following the learning path Justin has perfected over years of teaching ... and do the beginner course as laid out.
:)
Yes I intend to start following Justins course, I've only just discovered how much content there is and I really like his teaching methods from to first set of lessons that I have worked through, I actually though it was a subscription course but now I know its not, it gives me even more reason to follow along.