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Title: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Deathgod on April 03, 2009, 03:24:33 am
just had an idea after going thru some of my lessons.

what about a 'youtube' challenge/exercise thing

where we each play/learn the same song and upload them to our channels.

I think it might be fun and rewarding to see each other playing the same song.
Could be a cool way of getting advice and of seeing other peeps style on the songs.

What do you think ?

For a starting song i had maybe ' Knocking on Heaven's Door' as a good starter.

Anyone have any thoughts ?
 ???

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Deathgod on April 04, 2009, 02:08:39 am
good stuff bluepingu

just uploaded mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgDEvcMtJhI


Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: agordon on April 04, 2009, 02:56:19 am
Nice job deathgod (man I wish your user name was different  :D).  Anyhow I liked it.

Hey, can you explain to us what you used to record this?
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Deathgod on April 04, 2009, 04:06:21 am
i had my guitar ( Takamine TAN 77 with cool tube pickup ) plugged into my Zoom H4 ( acting as audio interface ), this was plugged into my iMac.
I recorded the video of me playing rhythm with iMovie 09.
I then opened up Garageband 09 and recorded myself playing a lead track whilst listening to my rhythm track.
I then dragged the lead track into iMovie, and tried to sync it up so it was playing in time.
Still learning all this software.

my nick is my gamertag
 8)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: bluepingu34 on April 04, 2009, 01:30:35 pm
Deathgod

Where did you learn the lead guitar? I'd quite like to try it because strumming chords for 2 1/2 minutes can get a bit boring ;D
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Deathgod on April 05, 2009, 01:12:39 am
i grabbed Justins Major Scales DVD
and i just 'noodled' the G scale

def recommend it
great way to learn the scale
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DeadlyChicken on April 08, 2009, 03:33:47 am
I don't have a lot of spare time lately so dunno if I can get in on this one, I did upload a sort of cover of the solo from Guns and Roses version of this.  It was more a test of my Wah pedal when it was new than anything else but it sounded mostly ok other than the end ;p

I was considering doing a lesson on this and the other solo in that song when I get some time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Fl21FLT2A&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Deathgod on April 08, 2009, 03:50:09 am
that was some cool lead work dude !
love the sound
would be great if you could TAB that lead out one day
i just noodle the G Major scale
great wah wah too

 ;D
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DeadlyChicken on April 08, 2009, 03:52:54 am
Thanks ;) yeah it is pretty much G major, or E minor pentatonic or a mix :p  I don't have a tab for it, but I could probably knock one up, but I would kinda like to have a crack at a lesson on this and the intro solo as I think its a good learner and I think it could  help some folk.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Deathgod on April 08, 2009, 02:14:11 pm
good stuff dude
just played your vid
kudos for having a crack at singing as well
 8)
i didnt think it was crap, it was pretty cool
keep rocking
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on April 08, 2009, 03:23:56 pm
good job - I've commented on youtube with suggestions to improve
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: agordon on April 09, 2009, 02:30:39 am
Good covers so far by everyone in my opinion.  Yeah, we can all improve on areas, but there is some good talent here.

I really like DC's videos of the GNR solos.  I learned them both a while back just from his videos, but would need to re-learn them.  If anyone wants to learn these solo's, his videos are perfect for that.

Ok, I finally had time to record my cover of knockin on heavens door.  Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfMe9Wmq1EY

Beware, singing is included  :D.  Gosh its hard to sing and play at the same time.  Feedback (positive and negative) is always welcome.  I may try to do an electric guitar version later if I have time.

I also posted another cover just because I was in the mood.  Its mainly for my wife.  Uploading now.  Beware singing is worse than the one above.  ???
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Deathgod on April 09, 2009, 04:43:45 am
wow
i really enjoyed that !
love the picking at the start
and your singing is great

when you are picking the strings - are you just 'ad-libbing' ?
are you just picking any strings ?
sounds great
its great to see peeps diff interpretations of the same song
 8)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: gareth51 on April 09, 2009, 11:42:13 am
agordon - that was a good version.  Good singing too.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on April 09, 2009, 06:29:04 pm
here goes with my hastily learned version

I decided to have a quick go today - took a couple of hours to get this far

 :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXIe9jmTzBQ
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: agj on April 09, 2009, 08:55:51 pm
I wondered how Status Quo would do it  ;D ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfQ_CObEo-0
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Deathgod on April 10, 2009, 06:10:57 am
@close2u

dude
i thought that was great
esp liked the lead stuff
 8)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: gareth51 on April 10, 2009, 11:50:34 am
My vote goes to close2u for the best one so far.  That was a good job after only spending a couple of hours on it.

agj - not a true quo version.  You used more than 3 chords!  ;D  I like it anyway.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: agj on April 10, 2009, 11:53:30 am
... agj - not a true quo version.  You used more than 3 chords!  ;D  I like it anyway.

It was just for a laugh, I'd had a few beers, I think possibly I should have turned the gain down a bit.  Next mmmm how would the Sex Pistols do it. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on April 10, 2009, 12:41:13 pm
My vote goes to close2u for the best one so far.  That was a good job after only spending a couple of hours on it.

Very kind - thank you!   :)

I wasn't going to do this - I've known the basic chords and played it on acoustic for years.  Anyway, I had a rant at someone posting a request for this in the 'song requests' thread ... given that Justin has already done a lesson on it!

I thought I'd better 'put up or shut up' so I then followed the links I posted for that person to learn the Guns N' Roses version myself.

The 'couple of hours' were mainly spent learning the solo, figuring out a reasonable amp setting for the different parts and then getting the timing right to the backing track (including switching between pickup positions and adjusting tone, volume etc as I don't have any pedals).

I'm glad you like it and appreciate your positive feedback!!

 :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: agj on April 10, 2009, 12:49:06 pm
I think yours is the best so far, apart from mine :D :D :D no seriously definatly the best, you beat me to it, I was going to base mine loosely arround the G'n'R version with the solo but this being easter holidays I had no time to practice because my daughter is off school and being a huge pain in the xx--xx.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Tigger on April 15, 2009, 06:02:42 am
Wow it's taken me so long to have a crack at KOHD that this topic had slipped off of the first page!!!
I finally managed to have a quick go as I was running out the door to the  office this morning!

I tried to make this a little more interesting by experimenting with an offbeat style strumming pattern and I translated/improvised the small solo part from the legendary Guns and Roses version so that it was playable on the acoustic.

Hope you like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ujvgxdaEZo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ujvgxdaEZo)

PS:  I was singing, but there's no way that was making it into the cut!  :D

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on April 15, 2009, 08:38:33 am
that's a good job tigger (the vid ... not the fact that you're not singing!)

I like the solo done on acoustic


how did you record this so you can fade the vidoe and sound?
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Tigger on April 15, 2009, 08:47:13 am
Thanks close.

I use Final Cut Pro (because I have access at work) to edit my vids and it's really easy to add a fade out using that.

However this kind of thing can be done easily in most edit software - Windows Movie Maker for example.  Just have a look in the transistions section.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: agordon on April 15, 2009, 05:06:14 pm
... when you are picking the strings - are you just 'ad-libbing' ?
are you just picking any strings ?
I have a few picking patterns that I typically follow, but I also tend to vary the strings and when I pick them based on the song.  Actually Justin's Solo Blues DVD set really helped me alot with the picking style playing.  It taught me to use more than just my thumb and index fingers.

Tigger, cant wait to see your vide when I get home from work.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Tigger on April 15, 2009, 05:35:33 pm
@pingu:
Youtube won't let me reply to your comment for some reason so the answer to your question is...

:-) The pick-up is a Seymour Duncan Woody SC that fits into any acoustic with a standardish size sound hole.

The sides of it are rubberised which creates the tension needed to hold it in place and also makes it really easy to insert/remove at any time.

For more info:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/acoustic/seymour/sa3sc_woody_sc/ (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/acoustic/seymour/sa3sc_woody_sc/)

@agordon
Hope it doesn't disappoint then!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: agordon on April 16, 2009, 04:15:51 am
No disappointment here.  Good job.  I liked it alot.  Definitely my favorite.  :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: jase67 on April 18, 2009, 02:41:59 pm
Ive only just picked up on this, been on holiday. I've never really played this song even though I'm a Dylan fan. Its one of those songs that needs singing ::) or a lead thrown in, anyone got a simple lead tab to break it up a little. Im getting round to watching all the videos, like what I've seenso far.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sad-fingers on July 05, 2009, 08:07:48 pm
Was suggested I put this here so I have forgive the double thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vqUqRhhcDs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vqUqRhhcDs)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: licksnkicks on July 05, 2009, 10:30:35 pm
DeadlyChicken I just saw your rendition of GNR's Knockin' on Heavens Door and it was incredible.  Your bends are amazing and they are spot on.  Just had to tell you what a great job you did!

Licksnkics
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: LievenDV on July 14, 2009, 09:18:32 pm
whooop Agordon; yours is GREAT!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Ragz on July 14, 2009, 10:37:01 pm
@ agordon

Nice.
Makes me want to learn this one and record a cover of it simply from listening to this one.
Thanks for the inspiration mate.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on October 08, 2009, 07:00:54 am
My wife's grandson (I'm teaching him)

I made a new thread of all his stuff but this belongs here ...

 :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZNHt-J8II&feature=channel
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on November 27, 2009, 09:14:07 pm
@ marcus

now you've got a wicked Slash tone going and a mic to record through, how about you get this backing track and give this one a go

 :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: marcusmarkmus on November 27, 2009, 10:39:47 pm
@ close2u

you know, I was just thinking excactly the same yesterday..or today...anyway, i think im gonna try some jamming on this NOW!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: marcusmarkmus on November 28, 2009, 12:47:06 am
OK, about time I did this challenge...been uncertain of it since so many others did great performances with singing and everything...which i couldnt do to save my life  ::) well, here it is:
Knocking on heavens door jam (http://www.4shared.com/file/161130392/12f07b29/knockin_on_heavens_door_JAM.html)

I played clean rhythm guitar and Distortion rhythm and solo. I hope it turned out okay, its 01:39 here now, wich means that last impro solo was recorded about 01:30..I hope its good when I wake up tomorrow...

I tried to be "slashy"(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/images/smilies/slash.gif) on this one because its kinda the gnr version I did, but i still tried to come up with my own licks. I did some slide guitar too, but with my mobile phone since my ipod wasnt there at the moment...so thats part of why that sounds a little sketchy.
and its kinda hard to be interesting over the same 3 chords forever. but its good to practice major scales too!

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Tourniquet on November 28, 2009, 10:19:03 pm
Also thought I'd put a rendition up.... bit dylan, bit g'n'r, little of my own added flavour. only clean with a touch of reverb, shortened solo at the end. Also something of a departure for me, it's a video :o....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzSkA8Pbfc
Need to balance the amp mic and vocal mic volume better.

Nice versions all round.... hoping to hear more of you exercising those vocal pipes
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on November 28, 2009, 11:09:27 pm
enjoyed both, and good to see you tourniquet!

 :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: marcusmarkmus on November 28, 2009, 11:15:34 pm
good stuff, Tourniquet. enjoyed it!

..but it must be time for a new challenge now, soon?? Maybe that other free jam track from justin, or sweet home alabama (good for both singing and soloing for those who cant sing...at all..like me..), or maybe a christmas song, like jingle bell rock or something, since christmas is coming...
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Linsen on November 29, 2009, 12:48:43 am
Yep, liked both, too. Very different approaches, which is just what's cool about these challenges.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: jase67 on November 29, 2009, 01:02:37 am
Great covers by both of you.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: agordon on November 29, 2009, 04:05:32 am
Excellent job by both you two.  Glad to see more people coming out and playing these challenges.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: justinguitar on April 22, 2010, 06:32:12 pm
Great idea this :)

Gonna have a watch later, I have to get transcribing some songs to record tomorrow... ;)

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: licksnkicks on July 25, 2011, 12:06:42 pm
Lots of changes being made to all of the guitar challenges!

I quite liked Biest's rendition of this!  Nice.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Gi11es on February 24, 2013, 05:25:35 pm
Hello,

This is my recording of me strumming over a backing track and trying to play with the chords as explained in Justin's video.

http://youtu.be/Dr0a2CMoE3w

Gilles
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on October 11, 2014, 06:30:44 pm
Good effort Gi11es, sounds like you've got the chord changes coming along nice & clean ... well done for leaping in ...  8)
This is a late reply - you'll be even better by now I would think - can you sing & plat together on this yet?
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 05, 2020, 11:53:46 am
Hi there,

I recently suffered a severe, fantasy inspired, GAS attack. This recording is a first attempt using all my new toys. I wasn't planning to share this when I started but I think it is adequate to share for some feedback.

The fantasy ... to one day, some day, play a live gig, one level up from the Open Mics. If I dream big then perhaps a coffee shop. And in doing so I wanted to be able to produce a sound similar to what I produce for usual AVOYP recording the guitar DI and a mic, then adding Fx, blending the two etc. And well I know gear doesn't make one a better player, but still I succumbed to the fantasy-induced fever.

The audio here was recorded though a TC Helicon Play Acoustic pedal, using an AKG D5 mic.  The intention in using the Play Acoustic is to get a guitar sound that is closer to a mic'ed acoustic with some light fx and adding some fx to the vocal. The D5 is a super-cardiod, so hoped it would help with the bleed.

The Play Acoustic was connected up to my AI as usual. But rather than running into Reaper, as usual, the AI was used as the audio source to record in Corel VideoStudio. And rather than using my phone to record the video, a webcam also running straight into VideoStudio.

As I say, this is literally a first go and there are some issues to overcome, such as focus, getting the resolution right and lifting the audio volume to be closer to the YT norm. Also probably some more tweaking on the use of the Play Acoustic fxs.

And it is a whole lot easier to produce this way than all the steps I usually go through to make a video.  Can't say that justifies the GAS attack but what the heck, right ...

As always, I hope you enjoy and would appreciate comments on the audio ... tone, levels, anything really.

https://youtu.be/-fxIxTQUCPw (https://youtu.be/-fxIxTQUCPw)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DarrellW on July 05, 2020, 12:19:33 pm
@DavidP

Sounded pretty good to me David, listening to it on decent bins and on my newly acquired Harman Cardon equipped Tablet (a 4 speaker system)! Tonality was nice and rich and the mix was fine to me - great stuff!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: LBro on July 05, 2020, 02:07:37 pm
@DavidP
Hi David,
Found your version of Knockin to be interesting. Liked the arrangement as to me it was well done. Vocals seemed pretty good. Guitar play was good and with a pick I believe. You seemed to get a lot of mileage out of that and the strumming pattern. I am working this song at present but it is nowhere near what you have going here.

I did find the volume down a bit and had to turn it up. I compared your offering in level to a couple other YT songs/performances at random and that bore out what I found, lower level on yours. Mix seemed good. I don't know what bleed you had into the mic. I do know that if perhaps you try moving closer to the dynamic, you should have less bleed. I think from what I could see you were about a foot or 12" (1/3 of a meter?), back from the mic. I see a lot of folks that perform live, literally eat the dynamic mic. You probably don't have to get that close. But to me I would favor that over where you're at now, at least in attempt.

All in all a fine effort and the equipment paid off in my book, while having potential to do much more. Good stuff, looking for more and keep up the rockin vibe!

LB
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 05, 2020, 02:28:46 pm
Thanks Darrell.  Good to hear the tone and mix is sounding good.


Thanks LBro.  Appreciate the encouragement and detailed feedback.

Yup, playing with a pick. Trying to be a little lighter on the strumming, seems to get a better tone though am still catching strings a bit heavy every now and then which then causes the pick to move awkwardly.

On the level, agreed.  Hit "Stats for Nerds" and it was about 9dB soft. I had an option to boost the volume level in VideoStudio but just left it at the recorded level.  I wanted to see what that would be once rendered and uploaded into YT.  Next time will push it up, trial and error till I get the sweet spot.

I think the bleed issue is resolved, or if there was bleed then it didn't do any harm in this recording.  I'd have to record into Reaper and listen to just the vocal track to know for sure.  But that's moot, since going forward I will be using Reaper for multi-tracks and this approach for the live, record in one take, thing.

I'm a metric system man but good with imperial feet and inches, so maybe a little under 12".  Reason why I am backed off, rather than mic-eating is two-fold: firstly, wanting to avoid proximity effect.  Am I missing something when using a dynamic mic, that it is not relevant; secondly, I was trying to avoid some of the heavier breath-taking that I didn't like in my last live set of three songs. 

That all said, I will try get up a little closer next time round.  Usually I'd be standing and that will also change the interaction with the mic, more freedom.

But all in all, good to hear the mix was sounding good, which was the main aim of this one.  And it was a relief to get the kind of results I was hoping for when I gave in to the GAS pressure.

And I think the tone of my voice (for what it is worth) sounded good with the new mic; so thanks for the nudge on that choice.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 05, 2020, 03:40:29 pm
@DavidP
Sounded good to my ears DP! I dug it. When you hit your points of emphasis there was no clipping or distortion at all. Fine recording with lots of dynamics and clarity. I would say your signal chain is stellar.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 05, 2020, 04:54:52 pm
@ CT

Thanks so much, Clint, that is music to my ears.

You hawk-eyes may have noticed the music stand in the background; certainly does make for a more natural performance when played from memory.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 05, 2020, 05:08:33 pm
@ DavidP
You raise a good point. Not having a stand in front of a player is kind of a default, so it's not something to not notice. But good on you for staying in the moment with the instrument and playing from your heart. Variations in timing and timbre give a real human feel to your cover here. :)

You have inspired me to cover "Knockin'" sometime soon.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on July 05, 2020, 05:33:16 pm
@DavidP
Good stuff David, you set your sights on something and go for it ... if tech helps then tech is your friend.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 05, 2020, 05:40:07 pm
Good stuff David, you set your sights on something and go for it ... if tech helps then tech is your friend.

Thanks Richard, now I just need to keep working on the playing and singing part, upon which the tech depends, without getting overly distracted by the tech.  After all, tech can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse ... not suggesting my playing is ham-fisted and I'm oinking my way through songs  ;D

Ever onwards   8)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Balamuthiah on July 05, 2020, 06:02:54 pm
@DavidP
Very smooth David. If I was audience at your open mic I'd be awestruck! Loved the sound. I'm gonna say the GAS was worth it! :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 05, 2020, 06:08:35 pm

Thanks ever so, Bala, appreciate the encouragement.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Alex6strings on July 05, 2020, 10:08:38 pm
@DavidP

Well looky here what an excellent video.  It really is inspiring watching your Journey mate. 
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I really like your engagement with the audience in this vid.  I felt like I was at an open Mike.  Your audio to me sounded very nice. As you know I'm no expert on recording but I watch a lot of guitar vids and this was a nice mix on the ears.  I didn't notice the low volume level. 
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You're a guitar player David!  You played that whole song including the picking in the intro and I don't recall you looking at either hand at all.  Ok so maybe you snuck a couple of peeks but Bravo Mr D.  I noticed your fingering for you're A minor chord, is that how you have always played it? Or have you adopted this way yourself?  l play it that way sometimes if it makes sense for movement etc. 
.
I want to mention your right hand.   You know I'm big on right hand technique etc.  I watched your vid twice, once as an audience, and then as a guitar playing enthusiast.   I'm really impressed with your hands mate. You have such a nice pick grip and your right hand has a confidence which shows in the minimal movement you display.   
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This is my fav DavidP vid thus far. I hope this style is something we see more of.  I grabbed my guitar on the second watch and played a little solo over your interlude... Well done my friend.

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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: batwoman on July 06, 2020, 03:12:00 am
@DavidP

Leaps and bounds David. I appreciate that you're accessible both physically and emotionally. No music stand between us and you, and you're looking at us rather than a piece of paper. You're connected with your guitar and the 'how to' stuff flows with apparent ease as you play.  I hear dynamics in your singing and this connects me with essence of the song and with you the performer. It's like you've broken out of habitual restrictions and perhaps dependency and taken a leap, and what a grand leap it is.

Celebrating you David. 
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: markd85 on July 06, 2020, 05:27:27 am
Hi David
I liked it alot. My favorite part was the palm muting. I thought that sounded great. Thanks for sharing!
Mark
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: brianlarsen on July 06, 2020, 09:59:34 am
Excellent David-
You commented recently on one of my songs that you might set a goal of trying to relax enough to smile  :)
The smiling is irrelevant- it's the making a connection with your audience that raises the level by a couple of notches. (Nick Cave, one of my favourite artists is usually serious/menacing/angry and rarely smiles)

This is the most engaging performance I've seen you do to date, and the good news is I think it has very little to do with GAS/technical aides. You're obviously comfortable with the words and chords, which allows you to remove the physical barrier of the music stand/lyric sheet and even get a good bit of groovy-body-shaking going.
The only problem with this approach- esp. for us 'more mature' performers- is the inordinate amount of time required to get the lyrics and fingers to work on autopilot, so as not to be thrown by any spontaneous performance antics.
Well done you  8)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 06, 2020, 01:22:15 pm
@ Alex6strings

Thanks so much, Alex. Such an encouraging comment.

Yeah, Justin, commented on my Am fingering when I had a previous Skype lesson with him. Apparently it is not the norm though, as I recall, he said James Taylor does it that way as well; so can't be all bad. But on some songs I do it the other way so a C-Am change involves only moving one finger ... Hurt springs to mind.

Would love to hear your solo.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 06, 2020, 01:24:30 pm
Thanks so much, Maggie, I shall celebrate your feedback and encouragement!

Thanks for the feedback, Mark, glad you enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 06, 2020, 01:31:22 pm
Thanks so much, Brian, appreciate the encouraging feedback.

No doubting it ... the better you know the song and the lyrics, the more natural the performance and when it gets as far as playing totally from memory without (too much) fear of forgetting one is set up for the most engaging, natural performance.

But as you say, this can take an awful lot of time and repetition to reach this state. Of course could revert to audio-only and not have to worry about video-recording, looking at the camera etc, but personally I always enjoy watching other people play, so not inclined to revert. 

Even if it means not always being able to play from memory.  I seem to recall you saying you have a tablet out of camera with lyrics, so maybe I need to figure out an out of camera solution ... hmmm.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on July 06, 2020, 03:03:06 pm
David, I’ve been getting geared up to post on AVOYP and the song I was going to upload was......Knockin’!
I’ll have to think again! Your version was excellent.

Anyway I’ve fallen at the first hurdle. How do I upload to the forum? How do I get a YouTube site to put things on in the first place? Can I link it to the forum but not out there for the world to see?

We’re not very ‘techy’ in this household. So much so that I bought my wife an Apple watch for her birthday on Saturday last week and it took us 20 minutes to work out how to fit the strap to it! 😂
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 06, 2020, 03:25:20 pm
@ sairfingers
Thanks, Gordon, glad you enjoyed it.

As for thinking again ... I don't think so. If that is the song that you were drawn to, have been practising then go ahead with it. After all it's all about sharing our individual performance, that reflects our own progress, in order to get feedback and encouragement.

Knocking has been shared by many, is a strum & sing classic, and for good reason. I don't believe people get drawn into making comparisons, liked one more than another, one is better than another ... most of us are learning with relatively few months and years under the fingers. In fact, I think sometimes folks are flattered when somebody says "I saw you play this and was inspired to try it myself" ... not the case, here but sure you get my point.

I honestly can't recall the nitty-gritty of creating my YT channel. I recall it was not too complicated, once one has a Google account. I guess googling "how to create a YT channel" would provide answers ... yup, tried that and it did. Just sign into YT with your Google account, upload a video (there's a button to click to start that) and it indicates you'll be prompted to create a channel if you don't have one.

Once you have uploaded the video, the system takes you through the steps to publish it. This includes declaring it to be public, private or unlisted.  I've never used anything other than public but a quick google suggests that if you publish as unlisted and post the video URL as a hyperlink in the Community post, we should be able to view the video. But not sure about that as I am no YT expert.

Hope that is helpful and look forward to your debut performance in AVOYP.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: pkboo3 on July 06, 2020, 06:10:44 pm
David, I always look forward to seeing and hearing your songs. You continue to improve in all your skills. Once more, well done!  Congrats on the new equipment. I’m not sure what it all is, but I got the general gist of what all you used.


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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 07, 2020, 07:10:54 am
@pkboo3

Thanks Pam, appreciate your encouraging comments and glad you enjoy my efforts.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Rossco01 on July 07, 2020, 08:45:32 am
David sounded pretty good to me. Volume needs to be lifted as others have said and I'd - as suggested - "eat" the dynamic mic  ;D . Sound wise it sounded very natural. Not sure if you had any effects going on but I couldn't detect them on this one. Have been tempted by something like the Play before but not sure I'd use the guitar side of it. I'll be interested to see more recordings of you using the capabilities on this.

Cam wasn't as good as the one you normally use but I think you said you were using something different. I think when you've sorted this the overall result will be as good as you normally do (probably for less effort as you've said).
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Alex6strings on July 07, 2020, 10:41:23 am
@DavidP

Yeah many of the greats have unusual habbits.  Tommys fingers fret two strings at once so you'll notice for an e minor he just uses the one finger and frets both the a and d strings 2nd fret with his index.  E Maj he uses just two fingers, same deal. 
Yeah I didn't think I'd seen you play it that way before this video.


Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 08, 2020, 11:35:52 am
@ Rossco01
Thanks Jason, always appreciate your encouraging comments with food for thought.

"eat the mic" ... so am I mistaken to be worrying about proximity effect with the dynamic mic? I will try get closer next time, while pulling back to avoid the heavy breath noises that I don't like.

I did use some effects on the guitar.  I had previously set this up and done an a/b comparison of guitar recorded straight through the AI and also through the pedal. And there was a noticeable difference. So I think it is in the ball park of what I am aiming for, to have a good sounding guitar tone but without it sounding processed.

And once I am where I want to be in that regard, maybe there'll be songs where a more processed guitar sound will be appropriate.  One limitation of the pedal as it currently works is that the guitar fx are applied all the time, without the option to hit the switch and get some extra effects incorporated. That is how the vocal fx work and will experiment in future with adding more vocal fx, in say a chorus.

Spot on, camera is a webcam and probably going to sacrifice some quality in comparison the camera on my phone. That said, I can improve the focus which will help and still can play with recording and rendering settings in the software to perhaps produce a clip with better resolution. To say nothing about editing options to improve colour saturation etc. Lots to learn having upgraded from MovieMaker.


Yeah many of the greats have unusual habbits.  Tommys fingers fret two strings at once so you'll notice for an e minor he just uses the one finger and frets both the a and d strings 2nd fret with his index.  E Maj he uses just two fingers, same deal. 
Yeah I didn't think I'd seen you play it that way before this video.

My brother was lucky enough to see Albert King live, up close and personal. According to brother he has enormous hands and fingers, so was playing an A chord with a finger tip fretting the D G B strings.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 08, 2020, 07:21:34 pm
Inspired by DP's latest cover:


Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Endureth on July 08, 2020, 08:33:52 pm
@CT

That was enjoyable.  Thanks for sharing.

Go Pats ;)

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: brianlarsen on July 08, 2020, 08:56:43 pm
@CT

Cool  8)
Dig the ending
Regulators!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 08, 2020, 09:18:27 pm
@Endureth
Thanks for listening and for the nice comment.

Looks like we'll be tuned into the game on Sept. 7th. Should be fun.

@brianlarsen
Thanks BL! Glad you dug that it finally ended. Haha!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: batwoman on July 09, 2020, 12:40:44 am
@CT

Clint if this could be bottled, you'd make a fortune. Your vocal tones go straight to the core and weaving in and around are guitar voices that dance a duo. Your sense of rhythm, timing and dynamics ramps this up to another level. Then there's the video imagery that blends seamlessly. For me, there's an awareness of your vulnerability and human-ness and that speaks to the same in me, creating connection.

I love this performance and I love you for it.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 09, 2020, 01:09:18 am
@batwoman
Very moving comment, BW, and I love YOU for it!

If I bottled this I’m sure it would be an acquired taste. It still feels raw and experimental to me. A few half-baked ideas floating around. Was just given a four day weekend in the midst of a high pressure project, so the juices were flowing a bit. Had a blast working this out as it sits, and learned a few things in the process. My voice almost got there in a few places (LOL). If nothing else, hopefully it’s a unique re-imagining of the song.

Thanks again, your comment made my day!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: batwoman on July 09, 2020, 02:26:22 am
@CT

Yeah well I'm putting in an order for a few dozen bottles. Please keep exploring raw and experimental Clint, I think it's a thaing for you and it seems to be opening a door to creativity with guitar and vocals. Re-imagining is a great way to describe your process.  I wonder if there's an original somewhere there in the future? 
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 09, 2020, 02:34:37 am
@batwoman
Thanks again! Really sweet and much appreciated. Yes, I have originals. I haven't figured out how best to release them into the world at large. Family and friends have heard them all. 

EDIT: You guys are a total gas. So very kind. BW, you are a gem. When the discussion veers toward what I am wearing and the ending of the track, I can read the Buick sized tea leaves. (LOL) As always, I truly appreciate anyone that takes the time to listen and comment.     
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 09, 2020, 05:34:39 am
@CT

Fabulous, Clint.

You keep trotting out your lines about being raw and half-baked. Who am I to pass comment on your experience of your music. If it works for you, but for me ...

For me, this was smooth, fluent, engaging, sensitive. When you have fulfilled Maggie's order for a dozen bottles of Brown Couch Juice, I'll take a case myself.

Also have to shout out the use of the triads and the interesting third chord ... what was that chord? ... the chorus lyric tweaks, a new verse.

PS Only in the USA can we be so confused as to which city a sport's team calls home ;) Though I am no expert on American Rugby ... uh ... Football  ;D
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 09, 2020, 06:43:12 am
@DavidP
Ding, ding, ding! Thank you DP. Thank you for caring enough to ask what the heck I was trying to do musically, whether or not I was actually able to pull it off is beside the point. I'm your boy, DP!

God bless if my vocals hit home -- they weren't really the point. That said, thanks for noticing some twists to the lyrics, this is some inside baseball, if the changes aren't noticed it means someone didn't listen or doesn't really know the song. This was not a trick, just a twist that a fan of the song would notice.

This is a guitar site. I wanted a big, rich, full & brassy D maj sound. So I went with a key of D progression using a drop D tuning on the low E string. This allowed me to do some big and brassy open chords -- even triads on the high strings opened up -- especially with brand new D'addarios.

Cool, now play a G maj chord. Um, OK. The low G is now at the 5th fret and the high G is still at the 3rd fret. No worries, it's just a G7 shape slid up the neck. Hold the phone, when I turn around to the D chord just about any finger I lay down on any string is a decent embellishment. Huge, huge fun! This just opened up a bunch of interesting little twiddly bits.

Thanks again for asking and feel free to give this a try sometime.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: batwoman on July 09, 2020, 06:59:30 am
...  if the changes aren't noticed it means someone  doesn't really know the song. 

I'm one of these Clint. The other thing that happens for me is that I get so absorbed listening to the sounds I don't really listen to the lyrics.

I wanted a big, rich, full & brassy D maj sound. So I went with a key of D progression using a drop D tuning on the low E string. This allowed me to do some big and brassy open chords -- even triads on the high strings opened up -- especially with brand new D'addarios.

Cool, now play a G maj chord. Um, OK. The low G is now at the 5th fret and the high G is still at the 3rd fret. No worries, it's just a G7 shape slid up the neck. Hold the phone, when I turn around to the D chord just about any finger I lay down on any string is a decent embellishment. Huge, huge fun! This just opened up a bunch of interesting little twiddly bits.

This is so cool Clint, thanks for the detail. Makes my head spin a bit but in a good way.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 09, 2020, 07:34:39 am
No worries BW, my comment wasn't meant as a knock in any way toward anyone. I really appreciate your kindness immensely. You're truly a cut above.   
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Rossco01 on July 09, 2020, 07:50:21 am
Nice job Clint and great to listen to first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 09, 2020, 08:41:53 am
@CT


Ah-ha, the drop D explains the chord shape that didn't immediately look familiar to me, Clint.

Now you mention it I also noticed some lower notes in the intro that sounded cool, but just enjoyed without thinking about what you were doing.

This all makes sense and maybe in due course I will get there and embellish my own strum & sing performances with such use of voicings and tunings.  Really did give the song something extra.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 09, 2020, 02:50:53 pm
Nice job Clint and great to listen to first thing in the morning.
Thanks Rossco01! Appreciate the listen and the comment.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 09, 2020, 03:08:18 pm
Ah-ha, the drop D explains the chord shape that didn't immediately look familiar to me, Clint.

Now you mention it I also noticed some lower notes in the intro that sounded cool, but just enjoyed without thinking about what you were doing.
So cool that you noticed something a little different happening. Drop D is such a common and easy tweak, surprising that I didn't muck with it sooner. Hope you and others get around to it. Huge fun!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 09, 2020, 03:31:05 pm
LOL I have to work hard to keep my basic open cowboy plus E and A barre shapes all neat and tidy, plus steady strumming pattern, plus singing ... feel like I have many miles ahead of me before I start getting fancy with other tunings and triads. 
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 09, 2020, 05:38:45 pm
@DavidP
We all chart our own course. You're doing great, you constantly inspire me. You have no reason to head in different directions.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 10, 2020, 06:01:46 am
We all chart our own course. You're doing great, you constantly inspire me. You have no reason to head in different directions.

 8) Good vibes, Clint, appreciate your encouragement, always supportive with a nudge to keep exploring.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: max_mue on July 10, 2020, 09:22:37 am
@CT

Yes! Another Brown Couch Session  ;D Well done Clint, really enjoyed it :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 10, 2020, 03:48:24 pm
8) Good vibes, Clint, appreciate your encouragement, always supportive with a nudge to keep exploring.
You 'da man! Just know that there are many windows in our music room, and we have full control over how much light and fresh air we let in. :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: pkboo3 on July 10, 2020, 04:07:22 pm
@CT

I noticed you backed up to allow us to see your fingers on the fretboard. Very helpful, to me at least. I’ll have to go back and re-read your explanation to David on the Dropped D chord. Went above my intellect level.   Interesting comments about the lyrics tweaks. I didn’t notice it either. Yeah, I can see that you would have to know the lyrics to realize the changes. Another good one, CT!


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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on July 10, 2020, 04:38:12 pm
@CT

Nice one Clint - saw this on YT first but thought I'd make my comment here before there.

I don't quite get the sporting references but (pun intended) I am an old hat at drop D having learned a ton of Neil Young and similar over the years. So I recognised those triad shapes for D, A and G immediately, and the stretched out G chord. If this is your first foray down that path then oh boy, you have so much fun ahead of you.
Speaking of Neil Young and drop D ... everyone should try to learn this, it is delicious.
https://www.justinguitar.com/songs/neil-young-harvest-moon-chords-tabs-guitar-lesson-st-903
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 10, 2020, 05:39:45 pm
Yes! Another Brown Couch Session  ;D Well done Clint, really enjoyed it :)
Thanks Max! I appreciate the listen and nice comment.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 10, 2020, 07:04:56 pm
@pkboo3
Haha! Thanks PK! Yeah, I backed up too far from the iPhone on this one. The chords really rang out with tons of sustain, but the mic was just too far away to really capture it completely. It looks like I was having a stroke or something at the end, but the guitar was still very resonate until the absolute end (you'll have to trust me on that). Just a huge sound -- out of the realm of normal cowboy chord tone.

At the end of the day I'm just a big dopey kid that serendipitously discovered the joys of drop D tuning, changed the key of the song from how it is normally played, dropped a minor chord from the progression, altered a few lyrics, and launched the first video with my quilted ash guitar.

Nothing to see here, move along now. Keep it moving. LOL
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 10, 2020, 08:06:01 pm
@close2u
Thanks for the great comment and share! Really cool. That's what I loved about that song all along? Delicious is the right word. Lots of exploring to do.

Does anyone here like the sound of their own guitar? If so, drop your dang low E to D and strum all six strings while holding down a cowboy D major chord. I was a drop D beginner a few days ago. You can thank me later. If that doesn't inspire you to play something -- then you really don't like the sound of your own guitar and you shouldn't have read down this far! I kid, I kid. LOL

 
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on July 10, 2020, 10:45:54 pm
Nothing to see here, move along now. Keep it moving. LOL
Clint, you are too funny. I love your talent and your ability and desire to share it, your no nonsense advice to questions about commitment to guitar, but your support to those who are really trying to come to grips with this instrument. It must be something to do with the sunshine and peach juice in Southern California. 😃
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 10, 2020, 11:41:17 pm
@sairfingers
Thank you! I really appreciate your comment. 

 

     
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: batwoman on July 11, 2020, 01:15:57 am
Does anyone here like the sound of their own guitar? If so, drop your dang low E to D and strum all six strings while holding down a cowboy D major chord.

Oh yeah Clint I'm a convert. Was introduced to dropped D 3 weeks ago. I've tuned my other guitar to dropped D and I've been mucking around with chord shapes, triads and some baby riffs. It's fun. Sometimes I change the tuning of one of the steel strings and that's fun too. So many sounds to discover.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: batwoman on July 11, 2020, 01:17:51 am
@close2u
Like Clint, you are so coolio Richard. Thanks for the link. What a great lesson, the sound is so nice, think I have to give it a go, probly above my level. 

Vibes to both of you legends.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Balamuthiah on July 11, 2020, 04:32:49 am
Nice one CT! Can never doubt your guitar playing ever but lately I'm growing to love your mellow vocal style. Add a harp to it and you're the complete package! :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 11, 2020, 05:42:04 am
Nice one CT! Can never doubt your guitar playing ever but lately I'm growing to love your mellow vocal style. Add a harp to it and you're the complete package! :)
Thanks, Bala! Glad you liked it. Appreciate the cool comment.

Haha! I respectfully decline being any kind of a package. There are a couple of harmonica bits in the Pan-damn-demic porch jam series on my YT channel, feel free to check them out. This track has drop D tuning, a bunch of changes to a classic song, and the video debut of my quilted ash acoustic. That's gonna have to be enough. LOL 
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 11, 2020, 08:39:40 am
Clint, you are too funny. I love your talent and your ability and desire to share it, your no nonsense advice to questions about commitment to guitar, but your support to those who are really trying to come to grips with this instrument. It must be something to do with the sunshine and peach juice in Southern California. 😃

I agree totally, Gordon ... superb summation there.

And of course, the canyons of California is where Shakey made his home, who seems synonomous with drop D (based on comments here) in the same way Keef is with open G.

Oh yeah Clint I'm a convert. Was introduced to dropped D 3 weeks ago. I've tuned my other guitar to dropped D and I've been mucking around with chord shapes, triads and some baby riffs. It's fun. Sometimes I change the tuning of one of the steel strings and that's fun too. So many sounds to discover.

Yeah, there comes a time (reference intended) when one is glad that attempts to sell one guitar when you acquire a new one ... the Crafter before Cedar in your case, Maggie ... came to nought. In your case the opportunity to have a second instrument to explore alternative tunings (even if tuning one string down and up is not as big a deal as tuning to say DADGAD), in mine that first guitar is now Nashville strung and ready to be picked up to add a different sound to a multitrack or when my wife and I play together.

Good on you for a posting that has birthed such a fun conversation, Clint.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: crocodile1 on July 11, 2020, 04:14:41 pm
@CT

Сlint, it's very good version, nice vocals.
Especially like guitar sound.
Leo
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on July 11, 2020, 06:01:51 pm
And of course, the canyons of California is where Shakey made his home, who seems synonomous with drop D (based on comments here) in the same way Keef is with open G.
This really is an endless journey! You start to get a handle on things only to be told you can change the tuning and relearn all the chords. 😂
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 11, 2020, 08:33:13 pm
<snip>
in mine that first guitar is now Nashville strung and ready to be picked up to add a different sound to a multitrack or when my wife and I play together.

Good on you for a posting that has birthed such a fun conversation, Clint.
Interestingly enough, this quilted ash guitar was purchased to be an exclusive Nashville strung guitar, but I found myself using it to record maybe three tracks, and used it on one live gig. I was starting to hear a buzz on high E first fret as well -- was hoping a string change would fix that. To make a short story longer, I strung it up with new D'Addarios, no more buzz and I really dug the tone. It's enough of a unique tone with regular 12's to be a good guitar for comping as is. So it is now in the normal acoustic rotation (whatever the heck that is).

Well, good on you for noticing something different happening in the video and inquiring about it.  Haha!

 
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 11, 2020, 08:39:59 pm
@crocodile1
Thanks, Leo! I appreciate the nice feedback. The sound of this guitar is growing on me, there may be another brown couch session coming soon. :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on July 12, 2020, 02:20:32 pm
Well, it seems like ‘Knockin’ is the current favourite at the moment on AVOYP. Here’s my attempt. I decided to do it in one take and that was what I would post. I know if I’d gone for the “I’ll just do it again” approach I’d never have posted anything!  I’ve played it better and I’ve played it worse!

This is literally the first time I’ve recorded myself playing anything.
I’m happy to play with friends at singalongs but to be able to replay something and see the flaws is scary.



Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 12, 2020, 02:29:38 pm
@ sairfingers.
Good for you Gordon.

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: LBro on July 12, 2020, 11:09:52 pm
@CT

Well then,
There is 2 things going around... The dreaded virus and Knockin! Nice rendition. Liked your intro and chord choices there. Also like how you owned this one with the flavor or spin you put on the vocals. So we have nice play and nice vocals along with a good production. Good stuff all around that rocks!

Be well and stay well,
LB
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: LBro on July 12, 2020, 11:22:11 pm
@ sairfingers.
I did not find this scary at all... I did not notice any warts to speak off. You did it justice and I enjoyed the listen for sure. Good recording for your first. Maybe the vocals could come up a tad. But all in all a very nice first time out with a recorded performance! Bring on some more!

Rock on as it comes across well!
LB
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 12, 2020, 11:58:48 pm
Well then,
There is 2 things going around... The dreaded virus and Knockin!
Haha! I think the door has been completely knocked down by now. Yeah, so thoroughly covered, but not as much as Wonderwall, Zombie, or Mad World (I'm sure), and I'm not convinced that my cover moved the needle all that much. Be that as it may, it is what it is, and some day we may find that it was never a door to begin with. Maybe it's one of those hippie bead curtains from the 60's. 
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 13, 2020, 02:56:43 am
@ sairfingers.

Your version answers the age old question, how do you enter into heaven? You have to knock on the door, man! That's the classic text book version right there, well done sir!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: batwoman on July 13, 2020, 06:23:07 am
@ sairfingers.
Is this your first AVOYP post Gordon? If so, what a great splash you've made. A really solid performance. It seems there's a growing number of guitarists knockin', perhaps you'll be invited in for a jam?
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 13, 2020, 06:59:10 am
@ sairfingers.
Ah, delightful, came back here this morning and the video embedding is all sorted.

Bravo, three cheers, and take a bow, Gordon.

I know what a big deal the first sharing is, and you've made it with a fine performance of the classic. Fluent playing and singing, and the extra twist of the humming and whoa's.

Assume the recording made on the phone, so not much that can be done on the vocal/guitar balance.  You have a good voice, natural phrasing, so would be better to hear you coming through a little louder; still loud enough to enjoy it.

Lovely to put a face and voice to the name.  Look forward to many more as you go.

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on July 13, 2020, 08:49:04 am
Be that as it may, it is what it is, and some day we may find that it was never a door to begin with. Maybe it's one of those hippie bead curtains from the 60's.
The fact that there’s a stairway to heaven and a highway to hell says a lot about the anticipated footfall!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: brianlarsen on July 13, 2020, 09:49:18 am
@ sairfingers.
Rookie mistake, Gordon  :P
Never set the bar high on the first attempt.
Not only will everyone else have great expectations now, but you might put yourself off, trying to improve on that
Seriously- well done.
Nice steady, relaxed strumming with pattern variation.
I enjoyed the chord embellishments, which I tend to neglect.
Hey, you can sing! and you know the chords and lyrics well enough to be able to throw in 'performance' on top: head-shaking to the groove, fab phrasing, the odd harmonic variation from the standard,  mmm's & whoas... it's all there.
A couple of comments re voice/guitar balance. I didn't notice it on the first listen, but see what they mean on the second go. I wouldn't worry about that aspect at all (yet). If it's a phone recording, I think it's better quality than most I've seen here.
Is that your Martin? I presume it has a bigger sound than my classical, which will contribute to the quieter vocals.
Now that you've crossed the Rubicon, remember how easy it is to just point the camera and press the red button.
It's a good job we're all our own fiercest critics- you'll be getting a swollen head if you pay too much attention to encouraging forum folk   ;)
Encore! and good vibes for an impressive debut

(ps classy colour on the walls- Farrow & Ball?)

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on July 13, 2020, 03:11:29 pm
@ sairfingers.

Thanks to everyone for the supportive comments, they are all much appreciated. Now that I’ve lost my AVOYP virginity I feel a lot more relaxed about the whole recording thing. I have a long way to go and am grateful to you all for being kind and not highlighting the flaws on my first outing, although I realise that it’s by people pointing things out that one can then try to remedy them. Don’t worry, I can see the flaws myself, fingers not close enough to frets for example and am already working on that!

LB. This was recorded on my phone so I’m stuck with the levels. I’ll have to sing louder/play quieter or vice versa depending on the song. It’s not normally an issue when I play/sing with friends who’ve had a beer or 5!

Clint. You’re right, I went for the classic version in the hope it would give me half a chance of it sounding ok. Maybe something more adventurous next time. See, I’m already saying next time!

BW. Yes it’s my first AVOYP. I’m a late starter at guitar so my fear is I’ll be knockin’ before I’m good enough to be asked to jam! Perhaps a celestial harp would be easier to learn?

David. Got the link sorted in the end! Glad to be able to put a face to the name although I can’t understand how it got be that old! The humming bit was planned but the ‘whoas’ came out of the blue 😂.

Brian. Not so sure about the high bar but thanks for that. Yes that was my Martin. It tends to be loud even when strummed softly. Now that the die is cast we’ll see what comes next.
ps. F&B mouse’s back.

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 13, 2020, 03:45:13 pm
This was recorded on my phone so I’m stuck with the levels. I’ll have to sing louder/play quieter or vice versa depending on the song. It’s not normally an issue when I play/sing with friends who’ve had a beer or 5!

And maybe if you've had a pint or two, a wee dram or three, maybe you naturally sing louder as well  :o

More seriously, Gordon, not sure how long you've been hanging out here so maybe never followed some of the conversations and recordings made by Hilts. He wanted to work on that issue of vocal/guitar balance while keep it as simple as possible i.e. a video recorded with a phone. His upgrade was to acquire an external mic that plugs into the phone and clips onto his shirt. I recall it making a positive difference for him.

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: pkboo3 on July 13, 2020, 03:55:05 pm
@ sairfingers.
Awesome first-time-on-the-AVOYP performance!  You are a natural. You looked confident; great playing; great vocals. Your guitar sounded really nice. Can’t wait to see your next one!


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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Alli on July 13, 2020, 07:17:51 pm
@CT

Probably been said before Clint but much prefer the lyrics of this than original one im used to. I really like the verses in the whole, more than the chorus of knocking on heavens door, and this is got a lot more.

Really interesting with the drop D tuning and different chords.

Like the vocals.

Cool dude! :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on July 13, 2020, 10:12:12 pm
Thanks for the supportive comments pkb, you’re too kind. I‘ve been wanting to do this for a while and feel the pressure is off now that I’ve made my first post on AVOYP. More will certainly follow now that I’ve got a bit more confidence.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 13, 2020, 10:57:34 pm
Thanks Alli for giving a listen and for the cool comment. Not a thing in the world wrong with the original classic version of the song.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: batwoman on July 14, 2020, 01:24:02 am
BW. Yes it’s my first AVOYP. I’m a late starter at guitar so my fear is I’ll be knockin’ before I’m good enough to be asked to jam! Perhaps a celestial harp would be easier to learn?

Oh yeah Gordon I hear you! Adds to the zest and enjoyment knowing I'm in god's waiting room. I'm 71 began at 69. Incidentally you look exactly as I pictured you. So glad you've made a start and what a grand start it is.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Alli on July 14, 2020, 01:09:38 pm
@CT

True. Just have not heard this version before.

The original is G D A G D C throughout, right?

What’s the chords you played on this version? might give it a go.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: redrhodie on July 14, 2020, 01:09:55 pm
@CT

Great job, Clint! Beautiful and heartfelt. I like the rhythm. There's so much that happens in a pause. You really understand that.

Beautiful guitar, too. What kind of wood is that? Looks like a tiger.



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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 14, 2020, 02:49:38 pm
The original is G D A G D C throughout, right?
What’s the chords you played on this version? might give it a go.
No, the only thing different from standard tuning is that the low E is tuned down to D. All else is the same.

Your homework assignment will be to suss out the chords I'm playing.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 14, 2020, 03:01:02 pm
@redrhodie
Haha! Thanks red! I appreciate your comment. A man's gotta breathe. :)

The guitar is made from quilted ash, it looks stunning to me and has a unique tone. The tone is not soft and mellow, it's a bit "crisp" sounding to my ears, but in a good and interesting way. Hammer-ons and pull-offs come to life. I'm working on a track right now where I try to utilize those embellishments.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Chazzo on July 14, 2020, 03:53:56 pm
@CT

This is great. Nice feeling, man
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Chazzo on July 14, 2020, 03:57:34 pm
@ sairfingers.
Nice job man, found myself humming along with you at the end there. Good stuff
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on July 15, 2020, 10:38:23 pm
Thanks Chazzo.  You can’t beat a good hum!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on July 16, 2020, 01:19:35 am
@Chazzo
Cool. Really appreciate the comment!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: frito on July 21, 2020, 10:11:21 pm
@DavidP

Hey David, I've been trying to find this post for a few days.  I didn't have time to reply the first time I saw it.  I think this is one the best I've seen of you yet.  I did notice before I read that you were playing without the music stand.  I think that helped make it so much tighter and free flowing.  Totally dig it.  👍
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on July 22, 2020, 06:26:43 am
@frito

Joe, appreciate you taking so much trouble to find this to post a comment, and the super encouraging comment. I think it demonstrates how much practice/rehearsal is needed on a song to bring it up to a decent performance level. I have played this over the years, many, many times, and it is still not without the odd wobble  ;)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on August 02, 2020, 08:51:08 am
Hi there,

After moving to YouTube to share my various recordings, I decided to ultimately close my SoundCloud account ... one such platform is more than enough for me. But there are some postings there that I would like to retain, which requires a migration to YT. One of those is my collaboration with Mari aka embishop back in Oct 2018 to produce a Guns 'n Roses styled cover of this classic.

I could've quietly moved it over to YT but decided that it was appropriate to post it up here in the Challenge for completeness sake and to share it with people who have joined since the original posting. I think Mari's guitar playing is well worth a listen, even though we have both improved since this was recorded.

It was also an opportunity to continue to get to know and learn Corel Video Studio and to make a few tweaks to the mix.

Hope you'll indulge the re-post, enjoy the production, and the usual goes when it comes to sharing your comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctvBH9xe84g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctvBH9xe84g)

Richard, I confess I didn't scan through all the posts here, after you recently consolidated the various recordings of the song posted up on AVOYP, to see if you trawled far enough back to pick up this production. If you did pick up that version then please can you delete it since the file on SC is now deleted. My apologies for again making work for the over-worked mod ...
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on August 02, 2020, 09:31:06 am
Hi David
Terrific performance and production there from yourself and Mari. I hadn’t listened to this post before. The problem with the format of this thread is it goes back to 2009 and is 17 pages long so some excellent performances are lost in the mists of time and are mixed in amongst the comments. Is there a way that the performances could be grouped together and separated from the comments? I suppose not as the comments have to relate to the individual performances.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on August 02, 2020, 10:34:40 am
Hi David
Terrific performance and production there from yourself and Mari. I hadn’t listened to this post before. The problem with the format of this thread is it goes back to 2009 and is 17 pages long so some excellent performances are lost in the mists of time and are mixed in amongst the comments. Is there a way that the performances could be grouped together and separated from the comments? I suppose not as the comments have to relate to the individual performances.

Thanks very much, Gordon, appreciate such a positive complimentary comment.

Maybe there is something Richard could do, don't know. I suppose what one needs is some kind of index that links one to a specific reply in the topic that contains a new recording. Thereafter one could scroll up and down. Or maybe there is a way to nest the postings: GC / KOHD / New topic per version with replies?
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on August 02, 2020, 05:05:02 pm
Very nice playing, singing and mixing. This is the song that just keeps on giving. This is a really good version and collaboration.   
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on August 02, 2020, 05:22:02 pm
Very nice playing, singing and mixing. This is the song that just keeps on giving. This is a really good version and collaboration.

Thanks very much, Clint, appreciate the complimentary feedback.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on August 02, 2020, 07:18:17 pm
Richard, I confess I didn't scan through all the posts here, after you recently consolidated the various recordings of the song posted up on AVOYP, to see if you trawled far enough back to pick up this production. If you did pick up that version then please can you delete it since the file on SC is now deleted. My apologies for again making work for the over-worked mod ...
Done ...

... The problem with the format of this thread is it goes back to 2009 and is 17 pages long so some excellent performances are lost in the mists of time and are mixed in amongst the comments.

@Gordon
I have removed all the  dead wood now so you should find it easier to read.

Quote
Is there a way that the performances could be grouped together and separated from the comments? I suppose not as the comments have to relate to the individual performances.
No, all comments are arranged by date order.
I have edited all necessary posts so they all have the @user_name format so it is obvious who the reply is being made to.

If all replies were made using this feature (or selective quoting only when useful and necessary) it would be good. :)


Maybe there is something Richard could do, don't know.

Tidying?
What do you think now?

ps

I will delete these conversation bits soon too.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: embishop on August 02, 2020, 09:21:14 pm
One of those is my collaboration with Mari aka embishop back in Oct 2018 to produce a Guns 'n Roses styled cover of this classic.

A fun project, it was great to collaborate with you, David. Nice to see the video mix, ace job on that.

And thanks Gordon and Clint for the listen and commenting 😃

Mari
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on August 03, 2020, 02:59:41 pm
Done ...

@Gordon
I have removed all the  dead wood now so you should find it easier to read.
No, all comments are arranged by date order.
I have edited all necessary posts so they all have the @user_name format so it is obvious who the reply is being made to.

If all replies were made using this feature (or selective quoting only when useful and necessary) it would be good. :)

Tidying?
What do you think now?

Richard, firstly thanks for deleting the old posts.

I like the tidying up.

Still think the biggest challenge for somebody taking a look at this topic is finding the original posts that include people's recordings. Once you have found such a reply then usually the comments that follow are easy to link back to the relevant recording. No doubt, being thoughtful in quoting contributes to that.

But for this song, there are 10 pages of replies, no idea how many renditions. The first was posted back in Apr 2009.

Looking at the breadcrumbs for this reply ...

Justin Guitar Community »Audio-Video Area - Progress, Performance & Feedback »Guitar Challenges - Songs »Post reply ( Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)

The only suggestion I could make would be to make each Song on the Guitar Challenges - Songs board a board, essentially add another layer. Looking at the site index page, then each song would be a child board? And then once at that board each person's submission would then be a new Topic on the Board for sa specific song. And the replies would then be linked to that topic.

But I don't know how the hosting software works, maybe there is a limit to the number of layers; I'm as likely as not confused ...

So having received thanks, maybe this reply is another to be removed :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on August 03, 2020, 06:31:09 pm
@sairfingers.

the Challenges section is categorically not a competition section.

From the sticky thread here (https://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=26498.0)

Welcome to the Guitar Challenges.

Each ‘challenge’ is basically an open invitation to anyone and everyone to play a song, an improvisation, a study-piece etc and post a recording – just for the fun of it.

So, whether you are a relative beginner learning the basic chords and strumming pattern of a song, a more experienced player adding a little fancy fretwork, if you want to do a little finger-picking, or you want to sing and play at the same time  ... you can join in with these challenges.

Important:
The challenge is to yourself.
These are not competition threads.
There are no prizes for making the ‘best’ recordings.
There is no shame for being at the beginner stages.
This is for FUN!

 :)

If you want some constructive advice and feedback on your playing then that is cool. Just ask.

ps
Thanks to Deathgod for getting the ball rolling on this.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on August 03, 2020, 06:39:04 pm
Perhaps the Guitar Challenge thread isn’t really required. If someone posts their version of Song X on AVoYP and someone else wants to post their version of the same song, then I suppose they are in a sense ‘competing’ and that becomes the ‘challenge’.
However I realise AVoYP is not meant to be a competition as that is not the ethos of that thread or indeed the ethos of the forum and could put members off posting.

So if everyone posts different songs there is no competition. Unless you choose to post the same song and then perhaps a ‘comparison’ is inevitable but still not a competition’.

Does that make sense? I haven’t really given an answer here have I. I’m thinking out loud.

I also have to add that when I posted Knockin’, I was in no way attempting to compete although I can see it could be construed as that. It was just a song I was comfortable with and when I heard Clint and David’s versions I thought “I can play that one” so I posted my version as my first AVoYP.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on August 03, 2020, 07:26:25 pm
Perhaps the Guitar Challenge thread isn’t really required. If someone posts their version of Song X on AVoYP and someone else wants to post their version of the same song, then I suppose they are in a sense ‘competing’ and that becomes the ‘challenge’.
However I realise AVoYP is not meant to be a competition as that is not the ethos of that thread or indeed the ethos of the forum and could put members off posting.

So if everyone posts different songs there is no competition. Unless you choose to post the same song and then perhaps a ‘comparison’ is inevitable but still not a competition’.

Does that make sense? I haven’t really given an answer here have I. I’m thinking out loud.

I also have to add that when I posted Knockin’, I was in no way attempting to compete although I can see it could be construed as that. It was just a song I was comfortable with and when I heard Clint and David’s versions I thought “I can play that one” so I posted my version as my first AVoYP.
I'm on the fence on this one. Everything I record challenges me in some way, so when Close2u asked me if it was OK to move my cover to this challenge thread, I said fine. It's just bookkeeping to me at this point. If you want your version to stand alone, I think it should be fine to break it out to its own thread. Maybe being locked down for months has mellowed me. :)     
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on August 03, 2020, 07:30:11 pm
One of life's mysteries ...

How did the post by sairfingers come after mine?
My post was a direct reply to sairfingers post and was made after I had already read it.

How on earth does the time-fabric-continuum get torn like that?
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on August 04, 2020, 07:02:56 am
One of life's mysteries ...

How did the post by sairfingers come after mine?
My post was a direct reply to sairfingers post and was made after I had already read it.

How on earth does the time-fabric-continuum get torn like that?

Goodness gracious, that's beyond me to offer an explanation.

Perhaps the Guitar Challenge thread isn’t really required. If someone posts their version of Song X on AVoYP and someone else wants to post their version of the same song, then I suppose they are in a sense ‘competing’ and that becomes the ‘challenge’.
However I realise AVoYP is not meant to be a competition as that is not the ethos of that thread or indeed the ethos of the forum and could put members off posting.

So if everyone posts different songs there is no competition. Unless you choose to post the same song and then perhaps a ‘comparison’ is inevitable but still not a competition’.

Does that make sense? I haven’t really given an answer here have I. I’m thinking out loud.

I also have to add that when I posted Knockin’, I was in no way attempting to compete although I can see it could be construed as that. It was just a song I was comfortable with and when I heard Clint and David’s versions I thought “I can play that one” so I posted my version as my first AVoYP.

Gordon,

I love the fact that somebody watching me have a go at a song can serve as some inspiration and encouragement to give it a go.

I have had the same experience. I was aware of the potential for comparison in some minds, and would desperately hope that nobody would ever make direct comparisons in such a way that could be discouraging to people sharing. For us still in the early years, it takes a lot to share. I suppose using somebody else's post as a reference to highlight an area of improvement could be helpful.

I never saw the GCs as a contest (as per the brief shared by Richard). In fact I never thought about posting my renditions of KOHD in the GC area but have no issues with an area that groups all the postings of a particular song (to Clint's point). Though my comment to Richard about being able to find the reply with a new version of the song is perhaps an issue if I wanted to go back as a new comer.

I found most value in the GC area in the posting of jams over a backing track. I enjoyed listening to all the different interpretations, having a go myself, and getting the encouragement and feedback.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on August 04, 2020, 09:00:23 am
One of life's mysteries ...
How on earth does the time-fabric-continuum get torn like that?
My fault I think. I modified my post to sort some typo’s.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: danman83 on August 05, 2020, 01:25:36 pm
https://soundcloud.com/dan-birch-214031853/knocking-on-heavens-door-m4a?ref=clipboard.

Be as critical as you want plz lol
10 weeks of learning the guitar.

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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: stitch101 on August 05, 2020, 01:55:36 pm
You're pretty good for just 10 weeks. Two thumbs up.
A liitle slow on the chord changes but that will smooth with practice.


Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: danman83 on August 05, 2020, 03:21:12 pm
I know I'm struggling with the chord changes and get a bit wound up. But Ill just keep trying. Thanks mate

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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: close2u on August 05, 2020, 04:03:12 pm
@danman83

10 weeks and I can hear some fairly cleanly played chords and some decent changes between chords.
I'm not going to give critique as at this stage you really are taking your very first steps and need encouragement to just keep on learning the basics of chord formation, chord changes and simple tempo.
Vibes.
:)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on August 05, 2020, 05:05:32 pm
@danman83

Well done, Dan. You are doing great. Can only say keep at it and it'll keep getting better. And big thumbs up for taking the plunge and sharing a recording early in the journey. The encouragement and feedback will be invaluable.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: danman83 on August 05, 2020, 06:28:07 pm
Thanks really appreciate it

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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: RC23 on August 30, 2020, 06:54:25 am
Ok, thought I’d have a go at recording this. It’s one of the first songs I tried to learn many years ago before I discovered JustinGuitar.
And even now whenever I pick up a guitar and just start noodling I tend to end up on this chord progression.

Anyway, here’s my effort. This singing business is still a struggle.

Rod.

https://soundcloud.com/user-913160599/knockin-on-heavens-door

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on August 30, 2020, 07:04:59 am
@RC23

Well done, Rod, you are building some good momentum on making recordings of songs.

I liked the way you mixed up the strumming, the accented bass note, the picking of individual strings or just hitting two strings maybe at times.

As for the singing, I think it took me about two years before the singing started to sound kind of OK. And the progress was achieved just by keeping at it, rather than through any deliberate practice. Only recommendation is to keep singing along with originals, without trying to play, unless of course you go all in and get a teacher.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: RC23 on August 30, 2020, 02:48:42 pm
DavidP

Thanks David, appreciate the feedback.

It’s all a work in progress at the moment, especially the singing because that’s a very new addition.
Planning on persisting though. Lots more practice and singing in the car!

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Alex6strings on August 31, 2020, 01:08:57 pm
@RC23 Nicely done Rod!  I enjoyed your interpretation.    I can't believe this challenge has been going since 2009.  I might have to do one too!  seems like something cool to be part of.   Well done on this , you've inspired me to have a stab at it.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: phx1973 on August 31, 2020, 02:56:08 pm
Well done, Rod. I really liked your version. And as far as the singing goes, I thought a big improvement from St. James Infirmary Blues. You're on the way. Keep at it!

Tosh
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: RC23 on August 31, 2020, 10:51:52 pm
Alex6strings

Thanks Alex,
The challenges are a good idea, I’ve gone through and listened to a few of them. There’s a couple of others I may have a go at sometime.

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: RC23 on August 31, 2020, 10:54:50 pm
phx1973

Thanks Tosh,

I think I’m getting used to the sound of my own voice. And also not worrying so much about what the rest of the household hears.

Rod.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: J.W.C. on September 08, 2020, 10:02:47 pm
Here's a cover of Dylan's Knocking on Heaven's Door.

Knocking on Heaven's Door (https://soundcloud.com/j-w-c/knocking)

Guitar (Martin OM-35e)
Vocal (me)
Drums (created in the DAW with MIDI & a sampled drum kit)
Bass (created in the DAW with MIDI & a sampled bass)

This is one where I recorded the guitar, wasn't 100% happy with it, and let it sit (thinking I'd re-record the guitar at some point). Today I decided to let the guitar stand (despite my perceived "warts") and just recorded the vocal over what I already had.

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Bytron08 on September 08, 2020, 10:38:47 pm
@J.W.C.
Wow man! Loved it! Keep them coming! :) Loved the drum beat along with your acoustic, sounds really nice.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: adi_mrok on September 08, 2020, 11:14:43 pm
@J.W.C.
I don't think there was any reason to keep it away in the bottom drawer away from all of us. Really well made cover, enjoyed it a lot to be fair, especially those small flavours like suspended chords. Great work and you should be proud of yourself!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: RC23 on September 08, 2020, 11:57:06 pm
@J.W.C.
Loved that, sounded great.

Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: J.W.C. on September 09, 2020, 12:29:52 am
@adi_mrok

@Bytron08

@RC23

Thanks, everyone. :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on September 09, 2020, 06:14:11 am
J.W.C.
What more can I say, JWC. I can listen to your play and sing all day long. You have just such a smooth, relaxed, laid-back, vibe in both the playing and singing.

From a mix perspective, I do have a feeling listening to the songs you've posted that I lift the vocals a smidge, just a teeny bit. It feels like I am listening to the guitar and the singing is a little bit in the background, secondary.  I know you said a couple back that you thought that maybe the leveling of the vocal was a tad high.  Do you maybe have a reference track of a solo acoustic player/singer that sounds spot on to you that you could use by way of comparison?

Of course nothing wrong with listening to your guitar-playing. You are one of those here who show me the way, make me aware that I am really just getting started, a toddler just beginning to walk. At this point I can only imagine being able to hear some of the things in this and the previous recording that would make one want to record another take  :o

Thanks again for the wonderful moments you are now sharing with us here.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: J.W.C. on September 09, 2020, 07:02:17 am
What more can I say, JWC. I can listen to your play and sing all day long. You have just such a smooth, relaxed, laid-back, vibe in both the playing and singing.

Thanks!

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From a mix perspective, I do have a feeling listening to the songs you've posted that I lift the vocals a smidge, just a teeny bit. It feels like I am listening to the guitar and the singing is a little bit in the background, secondary.  I know you said a couple back that you thought that maybe the leveling of the vocal was a tad high.  Do you maybe have a reference track of a solo acoustic player/singer that sounds spot on to you that you could use by way of comparison?

Hmm. Good question; I'll need to think about that.

I wonder if it's a difference in what we're listening on. When I'm mixing these I'm either using monitor headphones or monitor speakers. I should probably give the tracks a listen on some other speakers (e.g., car, home stereo, phone earbuds) to see if that affects it.

Also, since I know I'm posting these to a guitar forum, I wonder if I'm subconsciously lifting the guitar a bit too much in the mix, relative to the vocal.

Could also be that I'm not as experienced recording and EQing vocals (or maybe need a different mic that fits my voice better -- Lol), so they're not as "present" as they could be.

In any case, I appreciate the feedback. I'll take a closer look and listen next time I'm mixing something.

(And if anyone else wants to offer any feedback on the mix/level, I'd certainly appreciate hearing that, too. The more ears the better.)

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At this point I can only imagine being able to hear some of the things in this and the previous recording that would make one want to record another take

It's mostly little timing issues, or places where I don't hit a note in a chord as cleanly as I'd like. Often I think they're minor and probably not that noticeable in the context of the whole song, they just "stand out" to me once I've heard them. It's the same kind of thing that I've been telling me daughter not to worry about when she listens to recordings of own playing. "Physician, heal thyself!" :)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on September 09, 2020, 08:13:07 am
JWC,

It could be the listening means. For this one I was listening through some buds. They are better quality than the standard buds provided with a phone or tablet but not super hifi or mixing quality. So could possibly be colouring the experience. I also should play with the SC playback volume as I have found that for some reason when I soften that it influences the experience of the balance.

On the subconscious, I also wondered if you may have some sub-conscious thoughts about your own singing. I know many folk here don't enjoy their own singing and wondered if you might be softening it for that reason.

I appreciate that you hear things that aren't quite as good as you'd like.  I have the same sense when I listen to mine, just my quality/level bar is a lot lower that where you is ... so I think my oooopsies are far more obvious to more folk than yours would be. And just in case anybody is concerned, I am happy where I am and appreciate that it is a long and winding road.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on September 09, 2020, 08:14:24 am
Lovely version JWC, beautifully played and sung. You’re really on a roll at the moment.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on September 09, 2020, 07:40:12 pm
@J.W.C.
Tasty cover. Very nicely done. I listened over laptop speakers and thought everything sounded great. No real nits other than the intros and outros were a bit long, but hey if you really love a track -- play it for all it's worth and for as long as you want. Well done!   
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: J.W.C. on September 09, 2020, 08:03:04 pm
Lovely version JWC, beautifully played and sung. You’re really on a roll at the moment.

Tasty cover. Very nicely done. I listened over laptop speakers and thought everything sounded great. No real nits other than the intros and outros were a bit long, but hey if you really love a track -- play it for all it's worth and for as long as you want. Well done!

Thank you!

When I recorded the drums and bass I was thinking I might add some instrumental parts (electric guitar, maybe harmonica -- not sure) that would "fill out" the outro (and maybe add some touches to the intro), but I didn't end up doing that. I've been trying to overcome my inclination to keep working on stuff such that it's never finished or mixed down and just sits. I may still look into that, though.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Alex6strings on September 09, 2020, 10:37:39 pm
@J.W.C. another great way to start the day listening to one of your songs.  This was a really cool interpretation.  I like the bass, drums, acoustic only sound this had.   8)  Thanks for another great share!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: phx1973 on September 09, 2020, 11:00:26 pm
Here's a cover of Dylan's Knocking on Heaven's Door.

Knocking on Heaven's Door (https://soundcloud.com/j-w-c/knocking)

Guitar (Martin OM-35e)
Vocal (me)
Drums (created in the DAW with MIDI & a sampled drum kit)
Bass (created in the DAW with MIDI & a sampled bass)

This is one where I recorded the guitar, wasn't 100% happy with it, and let it sit (thinking I'd re-record the guitar at some point). Today I decided to let the guitar stand (despite my perceived "warts") and just recorded the vocal over what I already had.
I loved it J.W.C.  more like this please. LOL. And I listened before reading your comment about not being totally happy with the guitar work. Sounded pretty much flawless to me. We’re those SUS chords you were throwing in? Whatever it was, I thought it added a nice vibe to it that you don’t always get with this song. I’ve been thinking it may be about time for me to revise this song and you’ve given me some good ideas.


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Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: J.W.C. on September 10, 2020, 12:16:01 am
@J.W.C. another great way to start the day listening to one of your songs.  This was a really cool interpretation.  I like the bass, drums, acoustic only sound this had.   8)  Thanks for another great share!

I loved it J.W.C.  more like this please. LOL. And I listened before reading your comment about not being totally happy with the guitar work. Sounded pretty much flawless to me. We’re those SUS chords you were throwing in?

Thanks; I'm glad you liked it.

On the chord variations, yeah, I'm throwing in some sus chords here and there. I don't recall exactly what I played here (it's probably a little different every time), but the variations I'm using are almost certainly from the following:
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: batwoman on September 12, 2020, 01:28:59 am
Here's a cover of Dylan's Knocking on Heaven's Door.

Knocking on Heaven's Door (https://soundcloud.com/j-w-c/knocking)

Guitar (Martin OM-35e)
Vocal (me)
Drums (created in the DAW with MIDI & a sampled drum kit)
Bass (created in the DAW with MIDI & a sampled bass)

This is one where I recorded the guitar, wasn't 100% happy with it, and let it sit (thinking I'd re-record the guitar at some point). Today I decided to let the guitar stand (despite my perceived "warts") and just recorded the vocal over what I already had.

I don't have enough words to say how much I enjoyed this JWC. You have a masterful touch and a lightness that gives this life. Glorious tones, textures, spot on rhythm and groove. Thankyou.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: phx1973 on September 14, 2020, 07:23:32 pm
J.W.C's interpretation made me decide to go back and take another shot at this one and add it to this song challenge thread. I was surprised to see this song first came out the same year as I was born, 1973. And I added a bit of GNR phrasing in a couple parts, as an ode to my adolescence. LOL.

If you notice that my lips aren't moving in the first "ooh ooh ooh" part of the intro -- well, it occurred to me later that would be a nice addition, so I overdubbed that part by adding another track in Audacity. Everything else is just a one shot take.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDNdu4-M1OY
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: Alex6strings on September 14, 2020, 11:14:15 pm
 @phx1973 - The eagerly awaited Tosh KOHD has arrived and with a bang.  Really nice job Tosh, very nicely interpreted and your 'ooh oooh  oooooh oh'  additional track I think worked really well.   Aren't we lucky we can record and listen to ourselves making improvements like that so easily these days.  And now when you play it you'll 'oooh oooh ooohh oh'  live!    And everyone loves 'oooh oh ooooh oh oooh's' live.   ::)   I'm also a 1973 model Tosh, what a year it was for talent huh!   8) ;D ;)
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: phx1973 on September 15, 2020, 12:39:46 am
I'm also a 1973 model Tosh, what a year it was for talent huh!   8) ;D ;)

Sweet. Let's get the '73 band going! Like a fine wine. LOL.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: J.W.C. on September 15, 2020, 01:01:07 am
Very cool, Tosh! I love the GNR touches in there.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: DavidP on September 15, 2020, 07:00:15 am
I liked the laid back vibe of this rendition, Tosh. Another fine addition to the challenge thread.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: RC23 on September 15, 2020, 07:09:02 am
@phx1973

Really enjoyed that, it’s such a great song.

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: sairfingers on September 15, 2020, 09:08:47 am
Dylan meets Guns N’ Roses. Well done Tosh, an enjoyable version.
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: CT on September 25, 2020, 05:10:59 pm
I liked this a lot, as with all of the Tosh catalog of covers, always steady strumming and nice unique vocal inflection.

I have one nit that jumped out at me -- and that's the placement of the C7 chord. Is that the GnR connection? It struck my ear-balls oddly. Rather than just be nit-picky without a better suggestion, I picked up my guitar to see if there might be something a bit more transitional. I thought C/G (C chord with pinky at high E 3rd fret) worked better in that context. YMMV.

Another nice stylization, highly listenable and enjoyable!
Title: Re: Guitar Challenge 0001 - Knocking On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan / GnR etc)
Post by: phx1973 on September 25, 2020, 06:46:15 pm
I liked this a lot, as with all of the Tosh catalog of covers, always steady strumming and nice unique vocal inflection.

I have one nit that jumped out at me -- and that's the placement of the C7 chord. Is that the GnR connection? It struck my ear-balls oddly. Rather than just be nit-picky without a better suggestion, I picked up my guitar to see if there might be something a bit more transitional. I thought C/G (C chord with pinky at high E 3rd fret) worked better in that context. YMMV.

Another nice stylization, highly listenable and enjoyable!

Thanks Clint! That's funny about your comment regarding the C7. I couldn't decide if I liked it or not for the longest time. But this particular day it just sounded right to me. I'm not sure why, maybe just because it sounded different that your typical KOHD cover.