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Title: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: justinguitar on November 28, 2008, 01:42:35 am
Lesson Link: http://justinguitar.com/en/BS-101-ThreeLittleBirds-BobMarley.php

Questions...



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Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Rile on November 29, 2008, 09:33:24 pm
For anyone who wants to add more interest to this song, there is a nice little melody line you can 'extract' from A chord. Try transcribing it first, it's easy.
It goes like this:

              A

e---------0----------0---------------
B---------2-----0--------2--0--------
G---------2---2---2-----------2---2--
D---------2---------------------2----
A-----0---0--------------------------
X-------------------------------------

                                                                                                                  
You can also try adding Dsus4 on D, for example: down down up down up, pause(D still ringing), down up  down(on Dsus4)  up, and back to A. It fits nice with the melody  :)

Hope that helps.
   
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Sharkus on January 16, 2009, 06:55:09 pm
I've only been playing a couple weeks so if this is a silly question please be kind. 

In the video tutorial Justin mentions that an alternative style for playing this song is to strum on the off-beats.  However, since there is very little going on with the simple 4 down strums per measure, I logically don't understand how playing on beat or off beat makes any difference (both methods result in 4 downstrokes in a measure). 

Is it simply meant to slightly change the "alignment" of when the lyrics are sung vs when the strums occur?

Thinking like an artist rather than an engineer might take some time...
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Kroikey on January 22, 2009, 09:10:27 am
I felt like this too.  The best thing to do is tap your foot to the beat, and strum between the beats.  It works better if you have an accomplice who can play a tambourine or marraca :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Dhaga2 on January 22, 2009, 02:28:21 pm
Right, I don't really understand you Sharkus but I'll take a stab. The song on the the beats is 4 down strums, so 1 2 3 4. All down, what Justin does is add another down strum in-between the 1 2 3 4 so it ends up 1&2&3&4& with a down strum on both the number and &. It makes it sound a bit more reggae.

Hope that makes sense.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Cozza on February 21, 2009, 01:41:13 am
So as I understand in a sense it'll be 8 strums? I thought on the numbers it would be a miss.

Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: justinguitar on February 23, 2009, 09:09:19 pm
So as I understand in a sense it'll be 8 strums? I thought on the numbers it would be a miss.


You strum only on the "ands" (+)

1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +

It makes the "alignment" different with the vocal and sounds more reggae as stated earlier.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TB-AV on February 26, 2009, 02:34:26 am
"Is it simply meant to slightly change the "alignment" of when the lyrics are sung vs when the strums occur?

Thinking like an artist rather than an engineer might take some time..."

Yes, everybody starts at the same time, but some start with a -rest-.

So if a vocal starts on the downbeat and you play a rest... it's going to sound decidedly different than if you play a strum in unison with the vocal.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: deza on April 06, 2009, 12:58:59 pm
Hi

can anyone please tell me what tempo this should be paid in

thanks
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: limmomomo on April 06, 2009, 10:55:33 pm
Hi

can anyone please tell me what tempo this should be paid in

thanks

It doesn't really matter imo., you can play it on what ever tempo you like. Jimi played it in variable tempos. On the record its "abit faster" and if you go check live performanses it's usually abit slower tempoed. I think you just have to feel the chords and vibes from the song and go with it .. :) though you can always google some metronome and play it against the record and check the tempo.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: wlkks on June 21, 2009, 03:35:24 am
QUESTION!!!!!!
Dear Justin
Thank you for your marvellous lessons, I've learnt a lot these days!!

For playing songs, should I still follow the strum pattern? Like if I'm playing the D-chord, should I only strum from the fourth string to the lowest string, as usual? or should I strum every string?

One more thing is that, I don't know how to read the beat.
like,
        A                  A
Don't worry about a thing

when should I strum A-chord? at"worry"? or at "Don't"?
and when should I strum another A chord? at "thing" or at "about"

Thank you for you time~
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: martojo124 on June 25, 2009, 11:20:57 am
Everey A means a bar (4 strums)

You start the new bar at the word.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Stonio on July 07, 2009, 11:50:26 pm
I have chosen this to be my first song because I know it well and I love a bit 'o' Bob. (Redemption song would be great too)  ;)
This is a revealtion!!

I found this below** or is the fact i'm reading it like this ruining my progress of learning it the right way?
Apologies if i'm wrong in posting these chords..

So every time I see a letter on here I strum it 4 times (apart from the obvious intro) right??

**
Intro: A A A A


Chorus:

A
Don't worry, about a thing

       D                              A
Cause' every little thing, gonna be alright

       (A)
Singin' don't worry, about a thing

       D                              A
Cause' every little thing, gonna be alright


Verse:

A
Rise up this mornin'

               E
Smile with the rising sun

             D                 A
three little birds pirch by my doorstep

       (A)
Singin' sweet songs

           E
of melodys pure and true

       D                   A
sayin', this my message to you-oo-oo


Chorus:

        A
Singin' don't worry, about a thing

       D                                   A
Cause' every little thing, (is) gonna be alright

       (A)
Singin' don't worry, (don't worry) about a thing

       D                              A
Cause' every little thing, gonna be alright

(Verse)

(Chorus)

(Chorus)

(Chorus)Fade
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Estel on August 18, 2009, 09:00:35 am
Hey Guys,
Just starting out & trying to learn this song. I too was unsure when to change chords but I reckon martojo124's explanation sorted that out.
Couple of points though:
When watching the video, J appears to change to the D chord on the word "Cause" (every little thing) whereas the lyrics / tab shows the change at "every".
Similarly, in the verse, I reckon J changed to the A chord at "Three" (little birds) rather than "birds". Am I reading one or the other incorrectly?
Also, my middle finger has "calloused-up" & I get this little line running thru. I find lightly filing the callous to take the bumps away helps but is this a smart thing to do?
Thanks.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: gretsch18 on September 29, 2009, 04:24:22 pm
Sorry if I sound a little bit stupid in asking the previous question. I am a little slow sometimes at understanding things.

You are not alone....in fact, I think I'm more stupid....(I'm actually)
I keep hearing a down-strum and a 'knock' for the 'and' as in 1 -knock-2-knock-3-knock-4....Was Justin using the metronome to produce the 'knocking' beat?

Sorry, I even sound silly..... 
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: seanb on October 04, 2009, 04:41:14 pm
I'm finding this really hard to play.

It just sounds wrong to me if I strum with the beat - and while I totally get the concept of strumming on the off beat - I'm finding it really hard to do.

I just keep gravitating back to strumming on the beat.

This pattern seems to go counter to everything else on the course - on the RUST DVD Justin says that you always (almost) strum down on the beat and up on the off beats - but if Reggae is different that's quite a big exception to the rule.

Any tips for getting the hand of the off-beat strumming?

Sean


Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: knighty 1 on November 16, 2009, 03:43:30 pm
Sorry if I sound a little bit stupid in asking the previous question. I am a little slow sometimes at understanding things.

You are not alone....in fact, I think I'm more stupid....(I'm actually)
I keep hearing a down-strum and a 'knock' for the 'and' as in 1 -knock-2-knock-3-knock-4....Was Justin using the metronome to produce the 'knocking' beat?

Sorry, I even sound silly..... 
        no!  i think it was justin using his foot or tapping the body of the guitar on the off beat
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: EatLemons on December 11, 2009, 07:11:40 pm
All right, I have a question. Now, I know this sounds ridiculous and it's really an easy song, but counting the strums, paying attenion to the right number of strings to strum, and singing at the same time (wow - a bit too much).
Anyone having the same issue? I need to get all my chickens in a row before I start singing.

Please comment -lol-

Greets, EatLemons
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Gord on December 31, 2009, 07:02:27 am
Hi

can anyone please tell me what tempo this should be played in

thanks

About 72 or 76 BPM.
There is a good metronome where you can tap out the beat (as you listen to it in another window, maybe) and find the tempo. http://www.seventhstring.com/metronome/metronome.html
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Gord on December 31, 2009, 07:10:39 am
All right, I have a question. Now, I know this sounds ridiculous and it's really an easy song, but counting the strums, paying attenion to the right number of strings to strum, and singing at the same time (wow - a bit too much).
Anyone having the same issue? I need to get all my chickens in a row before I start singing.

Please comment -lol-

Greets, EatLemons

I just started too, and I found it easier to focus in things in this order:
1. Playing the chords right
2. Switching between chords smoothly and on each bar
3. Strumming consistent tempo
4. Singing

Singing plays heck with my tempo if I don't get used to how the guitar sounds first.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: EtherCJ on January 02, 2010, 06:40:32 pm
For anyone who wants to spice this song up a little more, here's a 16th note strum pattern.  It's basically the one from the B is for Bob version of the song: http://www.rhapsody.com/goto?rcid=tra.28773287

It goes 

1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a
D     U D     U   U   U D   D U
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Sh4d0W on March 15, 2010, 12:25:47 pm
Hello Justin and all guitarists :D,

I bought my first guitar recently and I'm learning to play.. First of all this page is awesome, thanks Justin for the beginner course and for all tips for beginners and stuff..

This song is pretty nice and easy to play but i have few questions :P

1. Is Justin playing A on 2 bars or 3 bars (from the beginning)? It seems to me like 3 bars (i just want to be sure)
2. I'm little confused how the chords go.. I think its this way, please correct me if I'm wrong...

   First is intro: A A A A
   Then it should go like this? : A A D A (twice), and then verse: A E A D A E D A (?)

Is it right?
(Sorry for stupid post :P and Sorry for my bad English)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: wobble_master on March 15, 2010, 10:03:13 pm
I could be wrong as well as I'm new too but I've got:

Intro: A A A A
Chorus: A D A A D A
Verse: A E D A A E D A
Chorus
Verse
Chorus
Chorus
Chorus (Fade)

Try that sounds right to me, but I could be wrong?
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Sh4d0W on March 17, 2010, 02:51:14 pm
i have one more (easy) question.. when playing E chord you strum all 6 strings, when playing A chord you strum 5 strings, when playing D chord you strum 4 strings, right?..  So when playing song and changing chords, do i need to strum that amount of strings as while playing individual chords or i strum all strings on each chord?

Please answer :P

(Sorry for my english)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: justinguitar on March 17, 2010, 10:08:10 pm
@Sh4d0W All good :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: close2u on March 18, 2010, 06:44:24 am
do i need to strum that amount of strings

yes

or i strum all strings on each chord?


no

simples  :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: wobble_master on March 25, 2010, 09:11:53 pm
Quote from: Sh4d0W
First is intro: A A A A
Then it should go like this? : A A D A (twice), and then verse: A E A D A E D A (?)

Is it right?

Quote from: Wobble_Master
Intro: A A A A
Chorus: A D A A D A
Verse: A E D A A E D A
Chorus
Verse
Chorus
Chorus
Chorus (Fade)

Could anyone please confirm if either of us have this right?, it sounds right (or as good as its going to get with me playing it  ;D) I've played both ways and think that Sh4d0W had it right?

Thanks in advance W
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Aluch on June 23, 2010, 08:24:52 pm
First is intro: A A A A
   Then it should go like this? : A A D A (twice), and then verse: A E A D A E D A (?)
Is it right?
(Sorry for stupid post :P and Sorry for my bad English)
intro part is 1 bar of A(4 down strumming )
2 bars A(4 down) and at Cause 1 bar D (down strum)
@ gonna be alright 1 bar A
verse:
1 bar A (rise up), 1bar E (smile...)
1 A (three...), 1 D (on my...), 1 A (singing..), 1 E (melodies..), 1 D (saying...), 1A (message to..)

repeat all
that little intro somoeone suggested is nice I will ask a bassist beginner where I go for song circle to play the whole time while we strum the song
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jojox on July 22, 2010, 03:00:08 pm
Hi! I would like to know if Justin, plaiyng this song, stops the strings from ringing after every chord or just let them ring in between two chords, for eample A A or also A E. Thank in advance :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: irishalkies on July 25, 2010, 12:07:22 am
You can strum it with your fingers if you like. But picks are seriously cheap. Buy some, or make a makeshift one for now. Hehe.... I've even made them out of cigarette paper packets before, so I can strum quietly at night.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: elshobokshy on December 23, 2010, 05:47:18 pm
Could you please tell me Justin how to play Happy Birthday song.... Make a quick video on how to do it please ? :(
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: radiohannibal on December 29, 2010, 11:14:01 pm
Justin mentions pdf files for these songs, which I assume has lyrics and chords, but I can't seem to find them anywhere.  Little help please?
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: sophiehiker on December 30, 2010, 01:21:05 am

Sorry, they were removed from the site for copyright reasons.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: radiohannibal on December 31, 2010, 02:18:30 pm
The bastards.  Ha.  Happy new year all.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jamshick on January 05, 2011, 01:27:58 pm
really sorry if this is a simple question but when I move from an E to the D cord the E string keeps ringing and then makes the D cord sound off. Is there a way to stop this from happening? Again sorry for the simple question but I've only just started playing so it could be just because I'm doing something wrong! Thanks in advance  :)

Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: flyhead on January 05, 2011, 01:37:09 pm
Once you become adept at this chord change you can use your thumb-tip to mute the E string. If you are still having problems with the change then simply ignore the ringing of the E string for now.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: sophiehiker on January 05, 2011, 02:47:51 pm

@jamshick - until you are able to wrap your thumb over the neck, you should be practicing not striking the open E and A strings when playing the D chord. 
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jamshick on January 05, 2011, 03:00:01 pm
thanks for the quick reply guys, I tried using my thumb to mute the E string like flyhead suggested and it worked. So I might only be able to play one song but at least it vaguely sounds in tune now! thanks again
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Died244 on February 11, 2011, 10:55:58 pm
I was wondering, are there any nice off-beats strumming patterns that I can apply? I'm still a bedroom rocker, so the only patterns I know are "D&D&D&D&" and "D&DU&UD&"... Any pattern that sounds nice with this song...
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Shonewizard on March 19, 2011, 02:43:00 pm
Hi all, at the start to say this is the best site what i find for learning guitars :) all cheers  :-* And now i need more help about this lesson. I have to practice more changing this 3 chords, but i need help when to play chords and when to sing words from the song?
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: themaxpowers on May 20, 2011, 08:21:48 am


**
Intro: A A A A


Chorus:

A
Don't worry, about a thing

       D                              A
Cause' every little thing, gonna be alright

       (A)
Singin' don't worry, about a thing

       D                              A
Cause' every little thing, gonna be alright


Verse:

A
Rise up this mornin'

               E
Smile with the rising sun

             D                 A
three little birds pirch by my doorstep

       (A)
Singin' sweet songs

           E
of melodys pure and true

       D                   A
sayin', this my message to you-oo-oo


Chorus:

        A
Singin' don't worry, about a thing

       D                                   A
Cause' every little thing, (is) gonna be alright

       (A)
Singin' don't worry, (don't worry) about a thing

       D                              A
Cause' every little thing, gonna be alright

(Verse)

(Chorus)

(Chorus)

(Chorus)Fade

There are some mistakes in yours, this is the corrected version played by Justin (if your lyrics are correct).
Intro: A A A A


Chorus:

A          A
Don't worry, about a thing

       D                              A
Cause' every little thing, gonna be alright

       (A)
Singin' don't worry, about a thing

       D                              A
Cause' every little thing, gonna be alright


Verse:

A
Rise up this mornin'

               E
Smile with the rising sun

             A                 D
three little birds pirch by my doorstep

       (A)
Singin' sweet songs

           E
of melodys pure and true

       D                   A
sayin', this my message to you-oo-oo


Chorus:

        A          A
Singin' don't worry, about a thing

       D                                   A
Cause' every little thing, (is) gonna be alright

       (A)
Singin' don't worry, (don't worry) about a thing

       D                              A
Cause' every little thing, gonna be alright
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: kristaps194 on May 21, 2011, 08:50:36 am
Firstly - Thanks from Latvia to Justin! You are the best teacher there is on the web!

But a couple of silly questions though.
What does (A) mean? I understand A is one full bar but (A)?
And about intro. Are those 4 As (A A A A) four bars or four parts of a bar?

P.S. Pardon my english.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: StringAmateur on May 30, 2011, 07:56:16 pm
Hello Justin and the other guitarrists  :) ,

i have one question right here:

how can one make the change from the A to the D chord sound clear??

my A string keeps ringing and I dont know how to mute it  :-[

thanks in advance!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: kristaps194 on June 15, 2011, 06:32:54 pm
@StringAmateur
As silly it may sound but - just keep practising! It ringed badly for me too but now (1 month since I've learned that change) it just comes out clear. Practice makes it perfect! ;)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: kelton77 on October 02, 2011, 06:57:56 am
im just starting out been playing for 6 weeks now and im learning this bob marly song ive found that its helping with with my 1 minute changes too a great way to learn a song and speed up my fingering.

should i do this all the way though the course or is it going to hamper me when learning new cords and stuff.
i only ask becouse sometimes i get to involed with trying to play the song ethier my fingering goes out or i just miss some of the cords.

thanks
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on October 02, 2011, 11:17:34 pm
Hello Kelton77 & welcome :)

It's natural to want to learn songs - that's what it's all about, after all.

...sometimes i get to involed with trying to play the song ethier my fingering goes out or i just miss some of the cords...

There's a big, big pitfall to avoid here - The MOST IMPORTANT hand in playing is the strumming hand. While you're learning chords, it's natural for all the attention to go on the fretting hand, and if you're not careful, you will pick up the bad habit of stopping strumming to change chords. This is really difficult to break out of (I know!) and the reason that Justin's course gets your fretting hand under control before introducing rhythm.

So if you're missing chords but keeping the rhythm, that's OK, but if you find little pauses creeping in then:
1) SLOW DOWN!
2)It might be better to just hang back for a week or two until your 1 minute changes are up to speed. Once the chord changes get quick enough to play in rhythm, then playing songs is the best way to practice (IMHO) and the 1 minute changes (on that combination  of chord changes) have done their work.

HTH

Andy
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: kelton77 on October 03, 2011, 07:55:27 am
Hi
andy thanks for the advise it will help alot i will just slow down i think it will be easier then worry about speed later when learning new songs.
and keep going on my one minute changes until its right i think i got a little speed when changeing though the cords but im getting.

thanks for your help  :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: southguy69 on May 23, 2012, 05:42:57 pm
hi all - I am trying to play this further up the neck using barr chords. I have the A and the D in the 5th fret but when I slide up for an E (7th fret) the E is too high, I guess it is an octave up.
The A and D sound great up there and really fit the song especially when playing the 'and' beats, very reggie! Can anyone help find another chord that would fit in in place of that E?
Many thanks x
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: JimLad on May 23, 2012, 06:02:35 pm
hi all - I am trying to play this further up the neck using barr chords. I have the A and the D in the 5th fret but when I slide up for an E (7th fret) the E is too high, I guess it is an octave up.
The A and D sound great up there and really fit the song especially when playing the 'and' beats, very reggie! Can anyone help find another chord that would fit in in place of that E?
Many thanks x

you could try the d shape E (move the d shape up 2 frets and fret the 2nd fret of the D string with your index finger.  or just play the triad without fretting the E on the 2nd fret of the D string.  you could also use the C shape (finger a C chord using your 2nd, 3rd and 4th fingers, move it up so that your 4th finger sits on the 7th fret of the 5th string then barre the thinnest 3 strings), but that would put your root on the 7th fret of the A string again.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on May 23, 2012, 06:14:34 pm
hi all - I am trying to play this further up the neck using barr chords. I have the A and the D in the 5th fret but when I slide up for an E (7th fret) the E is too high ....  Can anyone help find another chord that would fit in in place of that E?

The E chord you are playing on the 7th fret is an "A shaped bar chord", yes?? (x79997)

Here's a little application for the 'CAGED' system....

Nut <--C-A-G-E-D <--> C-A-G-E-D <--> C-A-G-E-D <--> C-A-G-E-D<--> C-A-G-E-D<--> C-A-G-E-D --> Bridge

You're using an "A shaped" chord, so there will be "C shaped" chord lower on the neck that shares the root, in this case 5th string 7th fret: X76454 (barre the 4th fret and play a 'C chord' with your other fingers - tricky, but so-able).

(If you wanted to go further, there's a "D shaped" chord that shares a root note with the "C shaped" chord - in this case 2nd string 5th fret: xx2454  but I find these hard to play as a barre. Go another step, and you end up with the standard "E shaped" open E chord.)

The "C shaped" bar chord is a cool one to learn as you can play I, IV, V chord progressions in one position.

(Same as Jimlad said, really...)

Andy
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: southguy69 on November 28, 2012, 06:20:34 pm
- love this song. I would like to move it up to barre chords so I can really get the reggae feel going on.

The only thing is that the E I am trying to use sounds wrong? I do an A barre at the 5th fret, 6th string and the D one string down. The only E close by is on the 7th fret of the 5th String, it sounds too high to fit? Any ideas on what to do here?

Many thanks

Dom 
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: shadowscott007 on November 28, 2012, 06:36:19 pm
Read the 5 or 6 posts above yours.

Shadow
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: mmmbert on November 28, 2012, 07:15:00 pm
- love this song. I would like to move it up to barre chords so I can really get the reggae feel going on.

The only thing is that the E I am trying to use sounds wrong? I do an A barre at the 5th fret, 6th string and the D one string down. The only E close by is on the 7th fret of the 5th String, it sounds too high to fit? Any ideas on what to do here?


If you just want to use barre chords, you could change the key:

For Example, you could play the A as an E shaped B barre at the 7th fret, the D as an E one string down, and the E then as an F# barre at the second fret.

Just a thought. Then the "E" would be "lower" than the other 2 just as in the open chord version.

in conjunction, you could tune all the strings down a step, and it would be in the original key as well.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: alanm on January 05, 2013, 11:26:10 am
Hi Justin and site administrators. Can't thank you enough for the site. I have just started learning guitar and Justins lessons have really fired my enthusiasm. A question, at the end of the lesson Justin mentions checking out his strumming tutorial. Which lesson number is that? Thanks.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: sophiehiker on January 05, 2013, 12:35:07 pm
If you're talking about the D DU UD pattern at 8:30-8:59 it's
http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-165-RhythmBasics4.php (http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-165-RhythmBasics4.php)

However, you might want to check out the entire Beginners Course if you're just starting.
http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-000-BeginnersCourse.php (http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-000-BeginnersCourse.php)

Cheers
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on January 05, 2013, 03:43:42 pm
@alanm: He might mean the R.U.S.T. dvd.

It used to be called "Really Usefull Strumming Techniques" - RUST, and you may still see it referred to as this on the forum, but I see it has recently been re-branded as 'Strumming Techniques 1':

http://justinguitar.com/en/PR-007-StrummingTechniques1.php

This has always been a paid for product, but the basics for a couple of patterns are in those lessons in the Beginner's course that SophieHiker linked to. Worth getting IMHO.

Andy

Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: alanm on January 07, 2013, 08:36:43 pm
Thanks for the advice sophiehiker and misterg.

As sophiehiker suggested I have started on Justin's beginner course and I bought the Beginner's Songbook.

I want to support this brilliant site as well as learn guitar so I'm going to buy and download the Strumming Techniques 1 DVD - thanks for the link misterg.

Alan.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: mikejain99 on January 11, 2013, 05:44:54 pm
Guys i've just joined this forum...:)
My A chord is sounding no where near justin's A chord in the video...
Playing each note of the chord sounds good but while strumming it sucks and thinnest E string is too loud which makes it even worse...!!!
Please help...
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: mmmbert on January 11, 2013, 07:13:05 pm
Guys i've just joined this forum...:)
My A chord is sounding no where near justin's A chord in the video...
Playing each note of the chord sounds good but while strumming it sucks and thinnest E string is too loud which makes it even worse...!!!
Please help...
I am afraid the answer is simply "Practice"

There is no magic bullet.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: sleepingbear on January 12, 2013, 10:34:01 pm
I read all the previous posts, but still didn't find the answer to the question about where to start singing every time? I'm a layman, but it's quite frustrating! I like the song very much. Watched the video many times, still not sure where should I start singing while strumming... Anybody can help me? Big thanks!!!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Dr Winterbourne on January 13, 2013, 12:37:19 am
Try singing along with the record.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TheCasual on January 17, 2013, 09:11:11 pm
Just started learning this song tonight. Only being playing a week.I've  learnt the chorus in 15 minutes, but how do you get it all to fit together? My chord changes are uneven and it doesn't sound great.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stitch101 on January 17, 2013, 09:34:44 pm
Play it slow at first. Start at a speed you can play everything in time and with clean chord changes.
Once you've mastered it at the slow pace start to speed it up little by little.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TheCasual on January 24, 2013, 09:59:03 pm
Play it slow at first. Start at a speed you can play everything in time and with clean chord changes.
Once you've mastered it at the slow pace start to speed it up little by little.

Been playing it a week now. Sounds okayish, but no near perfect. I'm still struggling with timing, but I think my problem is I stop strumming when I change chords.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on January 25, 2013, 12:57:27 am
Been playing it a week now. Sounds okayish, but no near perfect. I'm still struggling with timing, but I think my problem is I stop strumming when I change chords.

It's early days, but just a heads-up so you know that is a REALLY bad habit to get into, and can be hard to get out of. (I know, I did it!)

IMHO: Give some special effort to practicing the two things separately - Hammer the 1 minute changes some more for the chords involved, and practice strumming to a metronome without changing chords (hold one chord down, or just mute the strings). Use an on-line metronome if you haven't got one. Keep going, without introducing chord changes, until you can do 4 down strums, to your metronome, in your sleep, then come back to the song - still with the metronome.

Think of this stage as like being at a fork in the road. You can either take one path that lets your left hand rule the roost, or take the other and make your right hand rule the roost. At the moment, there's not much to choose between them, and it might seem natural for your left hand (or fretting hand) to take charge, as this is the one doing all the complicated stuff. With just a little effort, though, you can gently force your right hand to take charge. The problem is that once you venture down your chosen path, it can be very hard to get back. Make sure to choose the path that puts your strumming hand in control, as this sets your rhythm (which is THE most important thing in music).

It really won't take long, but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, as they say, and it's important to get in early (IMHO!).

/rant !

Andy
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TheCasual on January 26, 2013, 11:53:20 pm
A question for you, Andy.

When using the metronone do you continuously strum or do you strum and then wait for the next beep? Hope that makes sense, I don't think I've explained very well?

I'm doing exactly what you've said.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on January 27, 2013, 01:17:08 am
When using the metronone do you continuously strum or do you strum and then wait for the next beep? Hope that makes sense, I don't think I've explained very well?

OK: What you're aiming to do is to keep your strumming hand moving constantly up and down (not: Down. Wait. Up; or Down. Up. Wait...)

Every time your hand moves down, the pick strums the strings, and this should coincide with the metronome beep. You shouldn't wait for, or anticipate the metronome beep, just concentrate on keeping your hand movement synchronised with the beeps. If you're doing it really well, the metronome beep disappears under the sound of the strum. The analogy often given is that of jogging alongside someone else: You're running on your own, but you make automatic, sub-conscious adjustments to keep pace with them and stay alongside. Your strumming hand needs to jog alongside the metronome.

So I guess that's strumming continuously  ;D

If you can tap your foot on the beep at the same time it's a good habit to get into (seriously!).

I would guess 60 bpm is a good place to start (one strum per second).

Andy

Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: ghostdancer on April 21, 2013, 09:49:12 pm
Firstly - Thanks from Latvia to Justin! You are the best teacher there is on the web!

But a couple of silly questions though.
What does (A) mean? I understand A is one full bar but (A)?
And about intro. Are those 4 As (A A A A) four bars or four parts of a bar?

P.S. Pardon my english.

did anyone answer this i would like to know as well please
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on April 22, 2013, 12:05:38 am
Firstly - Thanks from Latvia to Justin! You are the best teacher there is on the web!

But a couple of silly questions though.
What does (A) mean? I understand A is one full bar but (A)?
And about intro. Are those 4 As (A A A A) four bars or four parts of a bar?

P.S. Pardon my english.

did anyone answer this i would like to know as well please

A chord name in brackets (A) ususally means that the chord has continued from the end of the last line (so you don't need to play it again, just finish the bar that you're on).

The 4 A chords in the intro are 4 bars of A

HTH :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Lonenut on May 27, 2013, 01:53:23 am
I'm playing on an electric guitar and this is basically my first "song" that I'm ever playing. This is probably a terribly obvious question, but I'm not certain what the answer is.

When I strum and go to my next note, my previous note is basically sustained. Should I be silencing the strings somehow, and if so how? If I don't and I, say, play an E before a D, the E string often continues to sustain past that strum.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on May 27, 2013, 10:38:35 am
It will sound worse on an electric than an acoustic, unfortunately, because the strings keep ringing much longer on an electric.

For the moment, don't worry about it. As your chord changing speed improves, it will be much less obvious, and in due course, you will learn to mute the low E string (with your left thumb) when you hold a D chord, but I think trying to do that now will probably just throw your chord fingering off.


Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Daveydoh on July 21, 2013, 12:02:18 am
I've been practicing with this song, but when I play it on my own using down strums only it sounds nothing like Bob Marley Three Little Birds

Should I be able to sing along to it so that someone can figure out the song I'm playing? Or should I just keep practicing it? I feel I picked up a bad habit some where and I'm trying to get rid of it. It is very much appreciated if this could be answered or maybe some advice for my situation, if it makes sense.

Thank you, very much appreciated.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: sophiehiker on July 21, 2013, 01:19:26 pm
When we all first start playing guitar, it doesn't sound like much.  And that's okay.   :)

There are three parts to music: harmony, melody, and rhythm.  When we first start playing chords on the guitar, we are playing the harmony.  There's no melody and, if you're playing all down strums, there's not much rhythm.  And that's okay.

If you can add the vocal, that helps a lot cause that's the melody.  A lot of us, when starting out,  have trouble singing and playing at the same time.  I practiced a lot playing along with the songs.  I used some software (Audacity) to slow the song down so I could keep up with the chord changes. 



Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: mouser9169 on July 21, 2013, 01:47:30 pm
There are three parts to music: harmony, melody, and rhythm

Don't forget counterpoint!  :o

The guitar is actually really good at keeping that going.

Anyway, to the strumming thing: in the very beginning, just play the chords in sequence. Make sure you're comfortable with the fingerings and the changes. This is pretty much step one in sight reading a new piece.

Once you can do that, introduce a steady rhythm and play your chords with simple strumming (4 or even 2 strums to a bar works well). When you're doing this, the rhythm is what's important - if you miss a chord, you miss a chord. Just like playing live, you've got to keep going. Keep it slow enough and your left hand will learn to keep up with your right.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: FragDaddy on August 01, 2013, 04:10:58 pm
Just got the Beginner's Songbook the other day, and having the same problem as with other songs on the Internet. At what word do you change chords??? When I watch his video, Justin's changes aren't right above the words of the song as in the book. Wouldn't it be a good idea to have the chord and it's corresponding words in a different font or color from the previous one? Just alternate between each chord and there would be no confussion. Also, being a beginner it would be nice to post a basic tempo with each song to help us get started. Would appreciate any help with understanding this. Thanks.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TheReplicant on August 01, 2013, 04:51:57 pm
Just got the Beginner's Songbook the other day, and having the same problem as with other songs on the Internet. At what word do you change chords??? When I watch his video, Justin's changes aren't right above the words of the song as in the book. Wouldn't it be a good idea to have the chord and it's corresponding words in a different font or color from the previous one? Just alternate between each chord and there would be no confussion. Also, being a beginner it would be nice to post a basic tempo with each song to help us get started. Would appreciate any help with understanding this. Thanks.

I've just had a look at my Beginner's book and the lyrics fall where they should. Remember that with lyrics there is room for embellishment so not everyone's take on the song will be exactly the same. Here's what I'd suggest:

1. Go listen to the song on youtube and become familiar with it. Learn the lyrics to memory.
2. Set your metronome at whatever bpm you're comfortable at and play the song through, 4 beats per bar and all downstrums (don't sing until you have the chord sequences down to memory).
3. Start humming the lyrics as you strum along and maybe just singing the words that fall on the first beat of each bar. For instance:

----------1----------2----------3----------4----------1----------2--------
hummmworryhummmhummmhummmhummmthinghummmhummm

After a while, if you've listened to the song and you're familiar with it, the lyrics fall into place naturally.

If you have a metronome with 'tap tempo' then just play the song on youtube and find the bpm that way. If it doesn't you can get a metronome app on Android or the App store with tap tempo built in. Find the tempo and practice 10, 20 or 20bpm less, slowly working your speed up as your changes get fast enough.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: mouser9169 on August 01, 2013, 08:06:28 pm
Just got the Beginner's Songbook the other day, and having the same problem as with other songs on the Internet. At what word do you change chords???

Part of it is the reggae. If you want to get a bit more 'in tune' with the song without getting too complicated - strum four strums to the bar, but strum the up-strums. So (1) AND (2) AND (3) AND (4) AND. Silent on 'beat', strum up on the and's. Same strumming motion and timing as you use for your usual four strums per bar strumming.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: FragDaddy on August 03, 2013, 01:29:07 am
Thank you Replicant and Mouser for taking the time to respond. I hear what you are saying, but being a 'newb' and buying a 'beginners' book, I guess I was hoping to be spoon fed.  ;)  I have a metronome, but thought it wouldn't hurt for a base tempo to be listed. Also, I don't like (probably cause I'm not good enough) to improvise. I have thought for years if they would distinguish the chord with the intended corresponding words, it would really help the beginners like myself. Pretty discouraged as I was hoping this might be the magic answer, but I'll keep plugging away. Thanks again.
PS. Tried to 'like' your comments, but this forum doesn't have that feature??
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: mouser9169 on August 03, 2013, 01:47:32 am

PS. Tried to 'like' your comments, but this forum doesn't have that feature??

<applaud> over on the left side.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on August 03, 2013, 01:48:46 am
it wouldn't hurt for a base tempo to be listed.

This has come up in the past - the problem is that most beginners wouldn't be able to play the songs at "full speed", so would either be driven into bad habits by trying to play faster than their current skill level allowed, or give up in disgust. The right speed is the speed that you can play at.

Quote
if they would distinguish the chord with the intended corresponding words, it would really help the beginners like myself.

In the Beginner's Song book, the chords are written pretty much where they should fall - it's sometimes part way through the words, but what should drive you is knowing how many bars (mostly 1 bar = 4 beats/strums) you need to play each chord for - certainly in the first part of the Beginners's Song book the chord is written once for each bar, so you should do 4 x down strums for each chord that you see, then change to the next. It's a step up the learning curve to appreciate that it's the rhythm that drives the chord changes, rather than the lyrics.

Don't be downhearted - we've all been there.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: FragDaddy on August 04, 2013, 05:47:39 am
Thanks for the info and encouragement misterg, I need them both!  :)  I've tried for years to play, had 6 different instructors (horrible, each for their own reasons), and tried different online courses, and bought numerous things 'guaranteed' to work, but no luck yet. I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I think I should be better than I am...... I can play and switch chords and stuff, but I just can't seem to make music. Hell, I'd be happy to play Mary had a little lamb at this point....  ;)

PS. Speaking of not so sharp, can't find the 'like' on the left. All I see is 'view profile' and 'personal message.'  Maybe Justin felt I wasn't smart enough to have a 'like' button!  ;)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: close2u on August 04, 2013, 06:20:38 am
you need a few more posts before you see the applaud button
:)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on August 04, 2013, 10:18:15 am
...bought numerous things 'guaranteed' to work....

Thanks for the feedback :) - I had tried to teach myself for about 20 years pre internet using many different methods, books, etc. (that Burt Weedon was a liar ;) ), and never got much beyond the point that you seem to be at now. I decided I was either going to learn to play properly or give away my guitar and started looking for tutors, etc. which led to finding Justin's site. I assumed I knew nothing and started from lesson 1 of the Beginner's course. From that experience, I'd say that Justin's Beginner's Course is truly a work of genius - it is far cleverer than it looks on the surface. It comes as close to being guaranteed to work as I can tell, but you do need to follow it slavishly, and practice all the things in the early stages that sound beginner-ish and not like you want to play - they are the foundations of the stuff that you do want to play. Also, don't get too far ahead of yourself - if something hasn't been covered by the course yet, then there will be a reason and you should (generally) stay away from it (it's easy to get into bad habits with strumming/rhythm - I know!). It needed a few months of discipline and self control, but it worked wonders for me.

YMMV :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: FragDaddy on August 04, 2013, 03:26:08 pm
Thanks for letting me know that close2u, now I don't feel quite as dumb. (can't tell you how long I searched that stupid page looking for it!). Kinda like how you make a blonde girl go insane, put her in a round room and tell her there is a dollar in the corner!  ;) 
Thanks misterg for sharing your story, it sounds VERY similar to mine. Can't tell you how many times I wanted to just get rid of it all, unfortunately that isn't my style....I've followed Justin's site for years and I kinda felt I owed him something for what he has and tried to teach me, so that's why I bought the book. I will devote a couple of solid hours to it later today and see if I can't make a little headway. Thanks again.
PS. Not wanting to get laughed off the board, but I have played RockSmith for the last year and a half and that has helped me more than anything else so far. Has anyone else tried that as a compliment to other methods? (I think I hear a roar of laughter across the pond!)   ;)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Dr Winterbourne on August 04, 2013, 03:54:05 pm
Fragdaddy, you are not alone http://justinguitarcommunity.com/index.php?topic=30502.0
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Goooner1 on August 04, 2013, 07:35:55 pm
No laughter from me had RS since the US release and looking forward to RS2014 in October.

It won't teach you to play on it's own, but in conjunction with this site it's brilliant. It certainly makes you want to keep practicing :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: FragDaddy on August 05, 2013, 04:03:03 pm
Thanks Dr. for the link and Goooner. Glad to see I don't have to keep it as my 'dirty little secret' anymore!  ;)  Any time you have a guitar in your hands, that's a good thing, and RS has kept one in my hands for hundreds of hours (just set the new high score for Super Slide last night). :)
As for the song book, I can follow along with Justin when he does a video, but without that, it is really hard for me to know where to change chords. I don't have a very musical ear and I can't seem to 'hear' the changes in the song. I'll keep playing with him and maybe it will come with more time. Thanks again.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: justinguitar on August 17, 2013, 07:56:28 am
Hey Frag, you'll find that if you practice consistently with a solid rhythm and count the beats along eventually you will 'feel' where the chords change without thinking about it :) A lot of the first part of the journey is repetition!!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TB-AV on August 17, 2013, 09:39:07 pm
@FD.. Might want to read entire message first because I am eventually going to tell you try to learn this --not-- as a Reggae song... which I think you are probably trying to do.... so I have made some Reggae oriented suggestions. I got distracted writing all this so I hope it makes sense...

Try playing the bass note then the chord. Boom chick.  Now you can mute the bass strings to make it even easier and play the chord on the upstrum which can get into a bit of a Ska feel. Very mechanical. That is not Reggae

The way the lesson is taught it's taking a Reggae song ( feel ) and making it an easy strumming Folk song. You probably hear in your head though the Reggae feel of the Marley version.

But the count is always going to be  1 2 3 4. Now the thing is, for the Reggae version the guitar is really playing 1 2  3  4   accents on the 2 and 4. They are down stabs.

The problem is they are singing to the other beats.... so when you try to do it yourself the bass groove is gone and drums with their tick tick tick are gone too.

Sooo... if you want to try to keep a bit of the reggae feel you can try this....

1 - play that as a down strum on the bass strings. Doesn't matter if they are muted or not, but your hand needs to bounce right up. Not a full swing but it still forms a down up movement of your arm.

1 - Down
& - bring hand/arm up but don't strum strings
2 - accented down strum on whole chord
& - upstrum
3 - light regular downstrum on whole chord
& regular upstrum on chord
4 - accented down strum
& - bring hand/arm up without strumming chord and get ready for next 1 with that little thumping bass note up/down action as 1 above. OR... you can strum this up too, muted or not.

Just keep repeating that. None of the chords change mid way. Everything will change on the 1 and because you are muting the bass note it gives you time to form your next chord and be ready for that accented 2.

Alternately... and to get started try this....

Open the book in front of you so your see the words and chord change. Play to this video.. The drum intro leads to the bass coming in on 1. When that comes in play a down strum and bounce up on the bass notes. Muted is fine. Then play the chords on the 2 and 4 as down strums with bass bumps in between. this should feel very natural. Bass chord bass chord bass chord. The chord should always hit where you hear that "skank" ( scratch sound ).

If you get locked in when the lead guitar comes in he will play his note before you strum your chord and your chord -should- sound like it matches. the only exception is the D line over "this is my message..."... just hold your count steady..... If you stay locked up when they sing "Don't worry" you should still be dead on.

If you find you are getting off, you either need to slow down or speed up. Reggae has what is know as the "bubble" and you can actually find yourself either locked to 1/8 or 1/16 notes on this song. either works. It probably depends on how much Reggae you have in your head and if you are hearing the bubble as you play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGYAAsHT4QE

Now having said all that... because of the nature of Reggae, if you want to go for that feel, you are going to have certain aspects of the song down cold. Like can you sing it? If so then play -to- your singing that would be ideal. There are just so many parts that create true Reggae and for even advanced players to do it, is very difficult. Most people can not play Reggae so don't feel alone.

This lesson is to get you strumming with 3 popular chords. Justin has the notes right where they need to be. Try singing the song as a ballad. Make the chord change words extend. Exaggerate them.

Don;t worryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about a thinggggggggggggggggg. Extend the words because they are the root note of the chord that you are playing and will help hold the music up. the other words are other scale tones and could throw you off.

If you have listened to Bob's version very much, then learning this in a Folk method of getting on the beats might seem odd but... if you get it so you can play it on the beats, you will be able to transition to the Reggae feel easier ( as long as you or someone else there can carry the vocal melody )...

But once you get to doing the Reggae guitar solo you either need to be very advanced because most Reggae parts are sparse and complex and while locked to a rhythm, they are not necessarily locked -on- a beat like 1 2 3 4.....

Again, Reggae is a massive rabbit hole that sounds easy but is incredibly intricate so it's no wonder you have problems if you try to play this solo as a beginner in Reggae fashion.

Try to sing and play the song like cowboy lullaby ballad... all your strumming and chords should line up right where Justin has them and with your singing. Once you get the changes down, try singing -to- your playing. By that time you should be strumming well and steady. Just sing to it, if you miss words don't worry, just hum, make noise, but keep strumming in time.

The book tells you to try the off beats after you get through Stage 4. I would not use upstrums if you aspire to learning Reggae. If you are SKA oriented though that would probably be a good idea.

The reason why is because a Reggae player will be chopping down on the strings and there will be a little bounce at the bottom that gets played as an upstroke ( sometimes.. maybe 50% as desired  ) and it's only catching the high strings. that's a major difference between SkA and Reggae. SKA might sound like stiff chick chick chick and Reggae will more often sound like swung chicka chicka chicka. This creates two totally different sounds. A good exercise would be to do it both ways until you can keep time and clearly hear the difference.

1st - Folk - Get your strums on the beat
2nd - Try the SKA upbeat strums. You should feel like you are popping like a pogo stick
3rd - Swung skanks chicka style downstrum. This should give you swaying back and forth Reggae feel

Don't expect that to happen over night. At the same time... with this lesson... don't be concerned you don't sound like Bob Marley ( no one else does either ) ... just try to make the song your own with the chords changing smoothly in the proper place as Justin has them notated.








Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: LMychajluk on October 11, 2013, 01:08:23 am
Not sure if this is the spot to ask, but is anyone else having trouble w/ the YouTube video? I've tried a few times over the last week or so and it always seems to stop downloading around the 1:07 mark.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: raj2488 on October 26, 2013, 06:46:59 am
Hello guys..How do I play the chords in between two bar lines?i just started to play the three little birds and noticed Justin strumming only four downstrokes for the intro part,|A|A|A|A| but I understand from the introduction section on the songbook that I got to play a chord between bar lines for a full bar and two beats if two chords found between bar lines..is there any exception for intros?appreciate if someone can explain me this..thank you.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Arshile22 on December 28, 2013, 05:36:23 pm
I've put together a little summary of the very basic things that I have found helpful in this forum.  As I just learned how to hold my pick properly 5 days ago, I am only including the very basic things that I was able to understand-  There is much more advice in the previous posts, and it's worth looking to- but this is just a little shortcut to the beginner's advice I created for myself and thought others might find it helpful.

Step 1  Learn the correct chords.  Justin's beginner course recommends to learn the chord shapes, strum each individual strings to make sure you are not muting any of the notes that contribute to the chord.  This also builds handstrength you will be thankful for after about 5 or more hrs of practice. The Chord progression for this simplified version of Marley's Three Little Birds is;
Intro AAAA
Chorus AADA  AADA
Verse AEAD  AEDA

song goes  Intro-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus x 3

Step2  Be able to switch chords smoothly.  Practice One-Minute Changes in the Beginner Course.  Personally, I set up my own 1 min changes exercise, applying the chords as they change in this song.   Commit the chords to memory.

Step 3  Work on playing the song through at a consistent tempo.  *This is perhaps the most important step for beginners*  Do not worry if you do not play the chord perfectly.   Also, you should be striving to change chords in rhythm without pausing.  If you need to pause then you need to slow down your tempo until you no longer need to pause.  It may be helpful to do this in concert with the metronome feature that Justin now has in the tool bar.  Start at a pace of maybe 15-20 bpm, work up towards maybe 60 bpm.  As I understand this songs tempo is  about 72-76 bpm.  It is more important for your strumming to be in rhythm at this point than for your chords to sound perfect and clear-  this quality will come the more you play the song.

Step 4  Start adding the vocals.  Better check someone else's advice on this one- I'm not that far.

Like I said, I just learned how to hold the pick- I just put these steps together to help organize my practice.  If anyone sees any correction that could be made for the better please make a reply.  Also, I hope I don't offend any other members of this sight by either repeating their advice or leaving out there advice.  I could only organize that which I could clearly understand.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jillettante on January 06, 2014, 11:14:11 pm
Justin has a very good 10 Step method for learning a song. Click on Lesson Index in the sidebar and, once there, scroll, scroll, scroll down to TE-401--Singing and Playing at the Same Time.

Even though the emphasis for many, if not most, of us is the guitar part, we're not learning to play melody in the early stages but only accompaniment to the songs. So it couldn't hurt to at least know how to quietly sing along with our playing.

When it comes to Step 2 "Learn the guitar part," there's no substitute for LOTS of repeats with the metronome, starting ridiculously slow and increasing maybe only by 2 beats with each repetition until you're smoothly changing chords at the correct tempo, which after the 10 recommended listens (Step 1) sounded like a 76 to me.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: spinsheet on January 27, 2014, 01:11:58 am
I am a complete beginner and a bit guitar challenged. That being said...

I was watching the video for Three Little Birds and just can't quite figure out the chord progression throughout the song. I was honestly trying to watch and write it down but kept getting lost. Could someone please fill me in on how many bars of each chord one does throughout the song?
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: shadowscott007 on January 27, 2014, 02:25:17 am
Did you watch the whole thing?

A A D A
A A D A

A E A D
A E D A

Shadow
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: close2u on January 27, 2014, 06:31:06 am
hello and welcome ...
Justin always describes the chord progression.
You have to listen follow, repeat etc.
Can I suggest you get the songbook that accompanies the beginner course?
http://justinguitar.com/en/PR-102-BeginnersSongbook.php
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jaycee on February 05, 2014, 06:33:51 pm
I have just bought the book and highly recommend it, if you haven't already got it.

I have posted a chord and lyric video on you tube for this song, and hopefully (as it's my first one) it will help.

Have a look at Justin's 10 step method for learning a song,   http://justinguitar.com/en/TE-401-SingingAndPlaying.php (http://justinguitar.com/en/TE-401-SingingAndPlaying.php) which I have written on the inside cover, and added an 11th step of performing it in front of another person (s)

Have fun

Every time you see the chord name strum down 4 times


Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: lorella on March 05, 2014, 03:28:05 pm
Hallo everyone!! Today justin beginner's songbook is arrived and now I'm trying to play three little birds. I'd like to know how many b.p.s. I must used for the metronome and if the third strumming pattern that justin shows in the video is DDUUD. Thanks a lot for the answer and sorry for my English
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Andreas Fischer on March 05, 2014, 03:34:28 pm
how many bpm? dont know but i recomend, try it realy slow, its a reggae

and try it first with only down strumms, it helps to start easy ... i startet with something complicated and failed
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: lorella on March 05, 2014, 03:52:36 pm
Thanks andreas I'll try it slowly but I saw the video and I like more with a down-up strumming
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Andreas Fischer on March 05, 2014, 03:56:51 pm
i understand that, i thought the same and choosed an even much more difficult strumming, it went well, but later with other songs, i had a strumming problem and now i play with only 4 downstrums to learn what i missed before, accurate strumming

anyway, you will make it right, i am sure
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stitch101 on March 05, 2014, 04:29:56 pm
Reggae Hits the accent on the up strum dUdUduU or one AND two AND three AND four AND. This what gives
Reggae it unique sound. The strumming pattern is a little more complicated than this but once you get in
the groove it will come naturally.





Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: zorner on April 10, 2014, 11:22:05 am
I searched the chords for this song and some chords are between brackets. What does it mean? Should I play those chords differently?
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: misterg on April 10, 2014, 06:07:48 pm
I searched the chords for this song and some chords are between brackets. What does it mean? Should I play those chords differently?

Hi,

I don't believe that there is a formal meaning.

If these are all at the start of a line it may mean a chord that has been 'carried over' from the end of the previous line, and it doesn't mean that you should play it again.

It could also just mean a second bar of the same chord....

...or just about anything else!

Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Jayrod on May 06, 2014, 01:19:18 pm
I transcribed Justin's YT video into a proper music notation PDF using LilyPond, complete with guitar chord schemes, strumming patterns, and melody. I read in the TOS that we are not allowed to post tabs or other copywritten material. Would this also apply to transcriptions? I notice that people have posted the words and chords already, so I don't see how this is any different. This has been a good exercise for me as I learn the guitar, given that I have prior musical training. Justin stresses that transcription and aural training is vital for progressing on the guitar.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Borodog on May 06, 2014, 06:34:59 pm
Definitely applies to transcriptions.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Jayrod on May 06, 2014, 07:18:08 pm
Borodog, thanks for the response. I guess I will keep them to myself.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TB-AV on May 06, 2014, 07:29:00 pm
Yes, you can post the link for research and instruction purposes. If any problem arises it can always be removed.

You will need more than 5 posts to post a link... Just go to just chatting and make 4 random posts/replies in a new thread. Then you can post here what you want. Or PM me the link and I will post it for you in your message. Yes, we always like to see students progress especially when based on Justin's advice and instruction.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TB-AV on May 06, 2014, 08:15:41 pm
Reggae Hits the accent on the up strum dUdUduU or one AND two AND three AND four AND. This what gives
Reggae it unique sound.

That's not how to play Reggae.... They "skank" almost always a 'down stroke' on the 2 and 4.

Practically -any- video you see of Bob clearly demonstrates this.

Go To 07:25




You have to distinguish real Reggae from strumming a beginner song sing along. That also is not what gives Reggae it's unique sound as it is very regular.  2 and 4 dead on. It's more so the drumming and bass as well as the Keys playing the 'bubble'. If you think about it it makes sense.  a-lot- of Reggae is about singing and the singer would have a harder time playing complex rhythm on their guitar so they get into the groove of the band and just lock up on 2 and 4 as their accents ( which is also how the American music they listened to would have been -- the back beat. )

If you can find some video of Bob playing accented upstokes on the 'ands' I would like to see it, that's an hour and a half of him playing down stokes.

It is painfully clear at this point in the video that he is playing down strokes.

Go TO 18:10 - 18:30  then 21:00 or so




 I have never seen Bob play any other style.  That's just how it's done. Reggae is defined by a "skank" on the 2 and 4.... You can even watch when he bends his knees. He dips on the 2 and 4..

27:27 - all down strokes.




It's just endless
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Borodog on May 06, 2014, 09:00:51 pm
"Reggae" is a pretty wide genre, but I think what says "Reggae" when I hear it is. "chips" and the 2 and 4, which are PROPERLY downstrums, and a back beat (eg the snare drum ) displaced to the 3. This is what confuses people; they think the song is halftime to what it actually is. They think that the snare hits are on 2,4 instead of 3, so they hear the chips on the "ands" instead of 2,4.

Anyway, the chips are properly down strokes.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TB-AV on May 06, 2014, 09:57:07 pm
Please everyone go to 4:18 - 4:32





Then watch this and play your DOWNSTROKE on the 2 and 4 to his drumming.





Justin is NOT trying to teach intense Reggae in this lesson. This is a beginner lesson or campfire lesson and if you can just get to strumming and singing you are doing fine. The feel you apply will come more from how you sing it than how you actually play it.

Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Jayrod on May 08, 2014, 02:41:41 am
OK, Three Little Birds transcription is here. I should add a disclaimer for educational uses only. I plan to add more transcriptions as I move through the course.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2a8dhlf3afwmasu/s80HRNnc2N
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Tim Mason on May 08, 2014, 09:46:30 am
Toots can do this :





You can play and sing a non-reggae version of Three Little Birds. It's just a song.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Macabre on June 23, 2014, 12:20:07 pm
OK, Three Little Birds transcription is here. I should add a disclaimer for educational uses only. I plan to add more transcriptions as I move through the course.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2a8dhlf3afwmasu/s80HRNnc2N

Thanks for that, I shall be giving it a go later.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Rivercruzin on July 10, 2014, 04:47:55 pm
Hi! New to forum and guitar. And 72 years old a bit slow. I need a definite clarification. Which is the correct way? This is what my book says:

         A                   A
Don't worry about a thing
          D                                    A
Cause every little thing gonna be alright
                  A                                   E
Rise up this morning, smiled with the risin sun
                 A                        D
Three little birds pitch by my doorstep
          A                                  E
Singin sweet songs of melodies pure and true
         D                                      A
Sayin, This is my message to you-ou-ou

But on J,s video it sounds as though he is starting A on Don't
and the D on Cause and A on Singin and D on Sayin. I have looked in back in forum have heard and seen posts both ways. So I am a bit confused.
Thanks

Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Borodog on July 10, 2014, 04:56:15 pm
Either way is fine. The way you have it written has better syncopation between the vocal and the beat in my opinion. Starting the phrases on the 1 is fine for beginners but it sounds kind of square.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stitch101 on July 10, 2014, 05:04:57 pm
For beginners Justin has simplified the songs to fit 4 down strums. Once your technique get better and
you start playing more like the records you'll find that reggae is accented on the second beat.
There is a video 6 posts before this on that explains the timing. 
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TB-AV on July 11, 2014, 02:53:57 pm
The song... I believe... will have "worry" and "every" on the 1.

Now if you were strumming easy guitar you would be strumming there and changing there. But reggae guitar really is going to hit the 2 and 4

So the beat stacks up like ... among other things....

Wor.... 1-rry
------------Guit --- 2
-------------------Bass drum -- 3
-----------------------------------Guit --- 4

Sooo.... if you can sing it, you really want to do that, and then just play your guitar on the 2 and 4. Which will mean..... your hands may be moving and you may be singing Worr but you might not hi the actual chord until the second half of word..... Now if other instruments were playing they would actually be sounding.... so your voice is actually changing chords before you strum.

It really depends on how you are going to play it.... I think the book is correct but the video, for what's trying to get across is probably ok too.

Or as Bob said... "He who feels it knows it".... If you are not feeling it keep moving things apart in time.

To me.... this song is really about singing and the guitar is simply along for the ride... As is the heart and soul of Reggae... it's really a singers music so even for solo guitar you still need to really be able to sing the rhythm even if your pitch is not great.


Watch this guy... I don't know how he is counting it, but in reggae when the T hits the three YELOW strings that is 3. Then he hits m+i on 2 and 4 and on a center red string he hits a red T == that is 1

So is you watch all that you see his changes match the book and he's playing the bass on 1. Every time he clacks his nails that's 3.

This would actually be a pretty good way to play it but still a little busy with that regular bass beat though... it's really hard to do all that stuff at once because you are emulating at least 4 instruments plus singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOSKYSpMsQk
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Rivercruzin on July 11, 2014, 03:55:54 pm
Thanks much for the last video! That was great! Watched it 7 or 8 times. I think what is going on before I started J,s course I had a book I had bought I was following. And I was looking to find the quarter note beats and I could not get them. Seemed as though there were more beats in there at times in a measure. I just will have to keep after it. Thanks to all!!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Rivercruzin on July 12, 2014, 08:01:03 pm
Making progress! I have no problem doing the song strumming and counting 1,2,3,4. Changing chords just fine. Now its just when I try to add the singing is where it throws me off. I think it will come with a bit more practice. Thanks to everyone!!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: w_ww_me on August 06, 2014, 08:08:44 pm
Justin says it's A E A D A E D A  for the verse but here it says it's A E D A  A E D A

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/b/bob_marley/three_little_birds_crd.htm

Which one is correct?
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Borodog on August 06, 2014, 08:48:20 pm
Just listened and Justin is correct.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: w_ww_me on August 06, 2014, 10:49:58 pm
Just listened and Justin is correct.

Thanks!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: mouser9169 on August 07, 2014, 04:01:42 am
Justin says it's A E A D A E D A  for the verse but here it says it's A E D A  A E D A

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/b/bob_marley/three_little_birds_crd.htm

Which one is correct?

They may well both be correct. You'll find that many songs are performed differently on different nights on different stages, even when done by the same artist (Joe Perry is a great example of this). One transcription may come from one recording, and a second from another one.

Justin's matches up with the 'official' music video - that much I can say, though it is 'simplified' as has been pointed out above.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: TB-AV on September 18, 2014, 02:08:11 pm
Here is a good video of Ziggy playing this song with easy strumming. He is playing in G ( G C D as opposed to A D E ). He makes a mistake in part of it but slides the chord up so don't be concerned about that.

TLB starts at about the 5:00 mark.



Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Tazz3 on December 02, 2014, 03:06:10 am
Sorry for the question about this song I kinda playing but I need help in the order of the chords
Iam not sure if iam doing it right  Starts off 4 bars is this right. This song is from Justin's bc
A..D..A..E..A....D..A..E..D ???

If its wrong tell me the chord order
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: tobyjenner on December 02, 2014, 04:24:45 pm
4 strums per bar each note below equals one bar eg Intro AAAA | AAAA | AAAA | AAAA

Intro AAAA      
Chorus 1 AADA AADA      
Verse 1   AEAD AEDA      
Chorus 2 as 1
Versre 2 as 1
Chorus 3 as 1
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Sizun on February 18, 2015, 09:53:58 am
Hello,

I found a version of this song I like a lot by Sarah Smith, but it seems it's not played in A. Can someone please help with identifying the key on the video ?

Thank you.



Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: aiki667 on May 07, 2015, 03:19:23 pm
Hi guys

i'm a newbie, might be obvious when you read my questions...

is it just me, or does Justin speed up his rhythm in the new video lesson??

I practise by playing along, but i seem to loose track of the rhytm, and i don't have this problem when i use the old video lesson.

i could use the metronome, but i don't know at what speed i should set it. can someone pls tell me?

thx
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: tobyjenner on May 07, 2015, 07:59:11 pm
75 bpm should do you fine  8)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: edel35 on December 31, 2016, 09:57:01 am
I just wanted to share my experience of learning this song in case it helps anyone else.
I listened to it a good bit first to get an idea of how it went, then I watched Justin's lesson. I was really put off by the 4 bar intro followed by another 2 bars of A. I thought I can't even manage the counting to 4 without having to remember which bar I'm on! I nearly gave up because the easiest song was practically impossible for me.
I read forum posts about keeping motivated and about how others were still working stage 1 songs when they were a couple of stages ahead, so I kept trying.
What worked for me was skipping the boring 6 bars, etc and going straight to the verse. As someone who sings I thought that would help, but no, avoid singing until you know the sequence off by heart.
So I practiced doing A to E to A to D one strum at a time, then the second part A to E to D to A one strum at a time. Then I put them together and worked my way up to one bar of each, but really slow. As my chord changes improved, so did my speed. I'm still intimidated by the metronome, so I'm just trying to go at my own slow and even pace.
Then I bought the songbook and started trying to play it all together from scratch. Finally, I can sing along and knowing the sequence off by heart has helped with where the chord changes go.
I haven't tried the reggae strum pattern yet, but might try once I have tried a few more stage 1 songs. It's taken me weeks to get to this stage so don't feel disheartened if it's not clicking yet.
By the way, I scrolled through several pages of this post before someone dealt with the question on the first page, ie, it's not about strumming down on the AND that makes the distinctive sound, it's strumming UP on off-beat.
Anyway, hope this helps someone.

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Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Rossco01 on January 01, 2017, 11:18:58 am
Well done edel and glad to see your making progress. It feels great once you can actually tell yourself you can play (and sing sometimes) a song. It gets even better as you progress.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: DarrellW on January 01, 2017, 11:40:19 am
Hello,
I found a version of this song I like a lot by Sarah Smith, but it seems it's not played in A. Can someone please help with identifying the key on the video ?
Thank you.
Looks to me like she's playing it in A, just mixing the positions where she's playing the chords; e.g. A barre (E shape) followed by D barre (A shape) then E barre (A shape) and she's also playing open chords.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: awooly on March 31, 2017, 04:09:01 am
I just wanted to share my experience of learning this song in case it helps anyone else.
I listened to it a good bit first to get an idea of how it went, then I watched Justin's lesson. I was really put off by the 4 bar intro followed by another 2 bars of A. I thought I can't even manage the counting to 4 without having to remember which bar I'm on! I nearly gave up because the easiest song was practically impossible for me.
I read forum posts about keeping motivated and about how others were still working stage 1 songs when they were a couple of stages ahead, so I kept trying.
What worked for me was skipping the boring 6 bars, etc and going straight to the verse. As someone who sings I thought that would help, but no, avoid singing until you know the sequence off by heart.
So I practiced doing A to E to A to D one strum at a time, then the second part A to E to D to A one strum at a time. Then I put them together and worked my way up to one bar of each, but really slow. As my chord changes improved, so did my speed. I'm still intimidated by the metronome, so I'm just trying to go at my own slow and even pace.
Then I bought the songbook and started trying to play it all together from scratch. Finally, I can sing along and knowing the sequence off by heart has helped with where the chord changes go.
I haven't tried the reggae strum pattern yet, but might try once I have tried a few more stage 1 songs. It's taken me weeks to get to this stage so don't feel disheartened if it's not clicking yet.
By the way, I scrolled through several pages of this post before someone dealt with the question on the first page, ie, it's not about strumming down on the AND that makes the distinctive sound, it's strumming UP on off-beat.
Anyway, hope this helps someone.


Thanks edel35, some good tips for a guy like me trying to learn this, my 1st song.  Been going a couple of months on Stage 1.  Received the Beginners Songbook in the mail yesterday  :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Shaolindelt on February 16, 2018, 02:55:19 am
Hey everyone - I’m revisiting some old songs and wanting to kind of perfect them as I move away from the BC.  As part of that, I’m trying to figure out a good way to move this song away from the basic 4 beats on the downstrum into something more dynamic. 

I’m not really feeling the reggae part (I’m clearly a white guy without Jamaican musical influence!) but I just haven’t found something between Reggae and “simple” basic strumming.

I’m working on adding the little A chord melody in (mentioned early in this thread) but I’m looking for some ideas to jazz this up a bit to make it more of a performance.  Some of the other songs I’m working on I have ideas to spice it up, but this one is a mental block.

Anyone have some extra ideas?


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Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: DarrellW on February 16, 2018, 06:30:05 am
Look at reply #127, Sarah Smith’s cover, food for thought! It’s one of my favourite versions of it!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: DavidP on February 16, 2018, 06:51:23 am
Shaolindelt,

I am not sure of your play grade.   I am BC at stage 7/8.  With that in mind, here's what I am doing which may be interesting for you or perhaps not enough of a step up.  What I am trying to step it up a little from the initial 4 down strums is the following:

1) Play it using barre chords.  A as an E shape, D & E as A shapes.

2) Strumming pattern is DUDUDUDU with the D strums percussive.  Do the percussive by lifting the left hand off a little and maybe adding a little hit with right hand palm on the down.  The strumming is more staccato as well, more chopping down and up rather than the usually stroking.

Seems to give a little more of the reggae feel. 

For future I suspect what may be needed is to extended the strumming from 1/8 to 1/16 note pattern and mix up the percussive down, the up strum and missed strums ... way beyond me to play it.  I can hear what I want it to sound like in my head but can't play what I hear.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: Shaolindelt on February 16, 2018, 12:50:52 pm
I can hear what I want it to sound like in my head but can't play what I hear.

Thanks for the suggestion.  Sounds like we are at a similar level - I’ve finished the BC but going back to polish it all and memorize some songs which I’ve not been doing thus far.  So barre chords (still not a huge fan of them) are in play and some moderate strumming techniques. 

I’m with you on this one, I hear the song, feel the groove but just struggling to make the transition to something on the guitar that carries the the same feel.  I think that off beat Reggae rhythm is messing with me a bit and I may need to spend some more time without Marley’s version and see if I I find something that makes this one more mine.  When I come up with something, I’ll post it too!


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Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stitch101 on February 16, 2018, 04:29:54 pm
Ziggy Marley can give you some good ideas on the strumming. He's not a reggae as Bob but still keeps the groove.
Three Little Birds starts at 5:00 He's playing it in G
https://youtu.be/XX5S2gXy3ps



Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: dan30_b on May 03, 2018, 02:40:30 pm
Hi,

I am attempting to do the upstrums on the offbeat. It is quite tricky although I think I am getting there but I have a question regarding it. I've looked through the previous pages and couldn't find the answer.

Should I be changing the chord at the start of each measure (just before the 1), or should I be changing the chord right before I strum it, between beat 1 and the & beat.

Changing at the start feels more natural but leaves a gap in the sound.

Thank you,
Dan.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jono on May 05, 2018, 10:37:31 am
I would change the chord between the 4+ and the 1. The open strings and anchor finger should keep the sound going during the change if you don't want the quiet patch.

Is reggae not supposed to have silence between the upstrums, it sounds better with the strings muted between upstrums.

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Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: DarrellW on May 05, 2018, 11:09:56 am
Is reggae not supposed to have silence between the upstrums, it sounds better with the strings muted between upstrums.
A bit like this


Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: dan30_b on May 07, 2018, 09:16:49 am
Thank you, that's very helpful, so change between bars and mute is what I will do from now on.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jump on October 24, 2018, 10:23:28 am
           hi there I am playing three little birds by bob marley I am having difficulties singing the song wile playing I know its a four beat rythem but what beat do you start singing on the first beat or all the beats or sing the song first and strum the four beats after that I realy do not know so please help me
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: PilgrimPod on October 24, 2018, 10:56:07 am
If you are able to it may be worth downloading the mobile app and taking a look at the song on there as it shows when and where the lyrics kick in in relation to the beat and chord changes. :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jump on October 25, 2018, 09:43:03 am
hi thank u for your repliy  what download do you need and can u get it from the app store on a tablet
         
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: PilgrimPod on October 25, 2018, 10:41:25 am
Just do a search for 'Justin Guitar Beginner Song Course' over on the app store and you'll find it. :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jump on October 25, 2018, 03:57:16 pm
          ok thank u I will have a look
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: jump on October 27, 2018, 07:08:54 pm
   Hi am I playing three little birds right i can not make the song sound right should I concentrate on the four beat rhythem or the chords I hope u can help
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on May 30, 2020, 12:57:05 pm
I've been trying to 'play' this tune https://www.justinguitar.com/guitar-lessons/fun-play-along-with-a-d-e-bc-117b (as one of the slower ones) but find I can't keep up with the chord changes. I have been practising my one minute changes and can get about 19/min for A-D, A-E and D-E, (which I have to say is an improvement from last week) but this doesn't seem to help with this song.

At the moment I'm at a loss as to how to progress (and I know that you are going to say practice, practice, practice) but having sat here for 30mins trying to play this it's frustrating at best!!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on May 30, 2020, 01:17:01 pm
Also find that I can't concentrate on strumming at the same time as trying to play the chords. So it's just one strum per bar, as doing anymore is just off putting!!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: joueur de guitare on May 30, 2020, 01:26:10 pm
Also find that I can't concentrate on strumming at the same time as trying to play the chords. So it's just one strum per bar, as doing anymore is just off putting!!

You're not expected to play every song at the right tempo from the off. :)

If you haven't got one already, get a metronome.

Play 4 strums a bar at a tempo you're comfortable with in time with the metronome. Increase the tempo gradually.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on May 30, 2020, 01:34:26 pm
At the moment it just seems like a bunch of chords which without the backing track from the video nobody would have a clue what I was attempting to play.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on May 30, 2020, 01:37:34 pm
You're not expected to play every song at the right tempo from the off. :)

If you haven't got one already, get a metronome.

Play 4 strums a bar at a tempo you're comfortable with in time with the metronome. Increase the tempo gradually.
I can use the metronome from JG's site but was attempting this to match the video.

Have bought JG's Beginners Songbook but not really sure how to use it as it doesn't tell you what speed to play things at.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: joueur de guitare on May 30, 2020, 01:45:27 pm
At the moment it just seems like a bunch of chords which without the backing track from the video nobody would have a clue what I was attempting to play.

I don't know how long you've been playing, so take this at face value.

Yep, it will sound rubbish played slow, it isn't fantastic unaccompanied at the 'right' speed. A lot of Justin's beginner's songs are simplified anyway, so don't get too hung up on that.

The object is to build your skills, not jump straight in and be accomplished.

Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: joueur de guitare on May 30, 2020, 01:52:24 pm

Have bought JG's Beginners Songbook but not really sure how to use it as it doesn't tell you what speed to play things at.

Yeah the lack of tempi in BS1 is a bit of an important omission, and it would have been good if Justin could have given them in his new videos. BS2 has them, but some of the songs are a bit more difficult.

As I said, play at a speed you're comfortable with, and gradually increase it. You're at the start of your guitar journey, have patience. And perseverance :)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on May 30, 2020, 01:58:47 pm
I don't know how long you've been playing, so take this at face value.
6 months since first picking up a guitar, and probably 3 months since using JG's site.


The object is to build your skills, not jump straight in and be accomplished.
I understand that but find when trying to change chords whatever skills I might have go out the window as I fumble to get my fingers in the right place. I can play the chords individually when doing my practice, but still struggling with the one minute changes ( and not quick enough to move on to another lesson).

Had a go using the metronome at 60 BPM & the Beginners Songbook but kept losing my place. can't look at three things at a time - right hand, left hand and book!

This is going to be a long struggle just to get this one song anywhere close.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on May 30, 2020, 02:03:20 pm
You're at the start of your guitar journey, have patience. And perseverance :)
You are right and I do understand!! Will keep going.

This reminds me of when I did my original CAD training back in the '90's, where I had to put a circle in a square so that the sides of the circle touch the sides of the square. Couldn't do it for weeks but now don't even think when doing it. Just comes natural!! Same with the guitar I guess. Time will tell.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: DarrellW on May 30, 2020, 07:33:47 pm
Had a go using the metronome at 60 BPM & the Beginners Songbook but kept losing my place. can't look at three things at a time - right hand, left hand and book!
This is going to be a long struggle just to get this one song anywhere close.
That’s not the way to learn a song, learn a few bars at a time until you’ve got them then add a few more, learn them and repeat until you’ve got the verse and chorus and that’s it just repeat. Playing from tab will not teach you how to play the song through, it’s there to tell you what it is that’s all.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: GregB on May 30, 2020, 08:00:53 pm
6 months since first picking up a guitar, and probably 3 months since using JG's site.
I understand that but find when trying to change chords whatever skills I might have go out the window as I fumble to get my fingers in the right place. I can play the chords individually when doing my practice, but still struggling with the one minute changes ( and not quick enough to move on to another lesson).

Had a go using the metronome at 60 BPM & the Beginners Songbook but kept losing my place. can't look at three things at a time - right hand, left hand and book!

This is going to be a long struggle just to get this one song anywhere close.

Watch Justin’s video on the song, he explains the issue your having, I’ve been there and sense your frustration but practising one minute changes is the answer, are you using your first finger as an anchor finger for all three chords.

If 60 bpm is too fast fight now try it at 40 bpm.

You will crack it if you perservere  ;D
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on May 31, 2020, 10:56:36 am
Ziggy Marley can give you some good ideas on the strumming. He's not a reggae as Bob but still keeps the groove.
Three Little Birds starts at 5:00 He's playing it in G
https://youtu.be/XX5S2gXy3ps




Just had a look at this. He doesn't seem to be playing the same chords as Justin's video!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: joueur de guitare on May 31, 2020, 11:03:25 am
Just had a look at this. He doesn't seem to be playing the same chords as Justin's video!

Quote
A lot of Justin's beginner's songs are simplified anyway, so don't get too hung up on that.

;)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: DarrellW on May 31, 2020, 12:00:52 pm
Just had a look at this. He doesn't seem to be playing the same chords as Justin's video!
True, Stitch said he was playing it in G which is to suit his vocal range. It was just for reference to the strumming pattern.
He’s playing barre chords E shape - G on the 3rd fret, C on the 8th fret and F on the 13th fret.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: sairfingers on May 31, 2020, 06:44:20 pm
True, Stitch said he was playing it in G which is to suit his vocal range. It was just for reference to the strumming pattern.
He’s playing barre chords E shape - G on the 3rd fret, C on the 8th fret and F on the 13th fret.
And this is the whole point of many of Justin’s song versions in his books and videos. Many are simplified but later on as your skills improve you can revisit them and put a whole new interpretation and dynamic into them with different chord voices, keys etc.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on May 31, 2020, 11:22:38 pm
That’s not the way to learn a song, learn a few bars at a time until you’ve got them then add a few more, learn them and repeat until you’ve got the verse and chorus and that’s it just repeat.
Thanks for that, as this is what I have been doing on and off all day & can now play the correct chords at the speed in the video. Strumming is still a problem but one thing at a time!!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: DarrellW on June 01, 2020, 12:32:24 am
And this is the whole point of many of Justin’s song versions in his books and videos. Many are simplified but later on as your skills improve you can revisit them and put a whole new interpretation and dynamic into them with different chord voices, keys etc.
Yes, I usually play this using the original chords but E = A shape barre on 7th fret, A = E shape barre on 5th fret and D = A shape barre on 5th fret. To see this in action my favourite cover of it by Sarah Smith:



Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on June 19, 2020, 11:41:53 pm
Yes, I usually play this using the original chords but E = A shape barre on 7th fret, A = E shape barre on 5th fret and D = A shape barre on 5th fret.
I don't even know what that means!! Having checked this is part of the IM course, which is way in the distance for me.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: DarrellW on June 20, 2020, 05:15:44 am
I don't even know what that means!! Having checked this is part of the IM course, which is way in the distance for me.
I agree, but it’s useful to know about it. There’s other ways it can be done as well but theory of triads and inversions are needed. Stick to the original lesson and work on it; I still play 3 little birds because it’s a great song but I play it more like Sarah Smith.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on August 09, 2020, 06:39:51 pm
Been having another go at this one. I can play the chords and even use a DDDUD strum but it just doesn't sound anywhere close to the song. Trying to sing along with this (in my head) I can't work out where the words should be in relation to the chord changes. The Beginners songbook doesn't really help and in the video Justin seems to miss out some strums to get the words in the right place, unless I'm not counting correctly. And this is supposed to be an easy song!!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on August 09, 2020, 06:42:25 pm
Also trying to count 1,2,3,4 and sing the words is really difficult!!
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: close2u on August 09, 2020, 06:48:54 pm
@stuartw

The original is a reggae rhythm which really doesn't fall neatly into the beginner repertoire of simple, basic strum patterns as it is an off-beat down strum style.
So you have to feel a song like this much more.
Can I recommend you move your attention to The Tide Is High.
This also uses just A, D and E chords (although for the original to play along with you need to capo at fret 2 iirc) and follows a reggae-ish style but you may find it easier to grab on to the groove.
https://www.justinguitar.com/songs/blondie-tide-is-high-chords-tabs-guitar-lesson-bs-128
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: DavidP on August 10, 2020, 07:27:52 am
Been having another go at this one. I can play the chords and even use a DDDUD strum but it just doesn't sound anywhere close to the song. Trying to sing along with this (in my head) I can't work out where the words should be in relation to the chord changes. The Beginners songbook doesn't really help and in the video Justin seems to miss out some strums to get the words in the right place, unless I'm not counting correctly. And this is supposed to be an easy song!!

Have you tried playing along with Justin as teaches how to play the song in his lesson. I did that and it helped me. I began following along when he played the 4 down strums slowed way down and eventually was able to play along as he performs the song at the start of the lesson.

That said, I have recorded my playing and singing it and am still not getting the words and the strumming on the off-beat correct. So may be simple in terms of chords used, simple lyrics, but is not nearly as simple as it may seem to play and sing it with that reggae feel.
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: stuartw on August 11, 2020, 12:07:25 am
@stuartw

The original is a reggae rhythm which really doesn't fall neatly into the beginner repertoire of simple, basic strum patterns as it is an off-beat down strum style.
So you have to feel a song like this much more.
Noted. Kind of begs the question why it is listed in the beginners section though!!
@stuartw
Can I recommend you move your attention to The Tide Is High.
This also uses just A, D and E chords (although for the original to play along with you need to capo at fret 2 iirc) and follows a reggae-ish style but you may find it easier to grab on to the groove.
https://www.justinguitar.com/songs/blondie-tide-is-high-chords-tabs-guitar-lesson-bs-128
Thanks for the heads up with this one. I'll give it a go. I remember when this originally was released :-)
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: dan71 on February 11, 2021, 02:21:42 pm
Not a question, but I couldn't find a place for random observations / good news that doesn't need a thread of it's own...

Three Little Birds suddenly felt like it clicked for me last night. I've had maybe a week of strumming on the beat, but it never felt right doing that while playing along. Having had a go at the mute-off-beat pattern on Tide is High, that fell into place for playing along to Three Little Birds. It isn't "done" but it was a step change from the day before.  :D
Title: Re: BS-101 • Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Post by: sairfingers on February 11, 2021, 03:32:23 pm
Well done Dan. Isn’t it a great feeling when something finally clicks. It’s practice, practice, practice!
Have some vibes from me.