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Title: BS-610 • House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals
Post by: justinguitar on November 26, 2008, 11:01:09 am
Lesson Link: http://justinguitar.com/en/BS-610-HouseRisingSun-TheAnimals.php

Questions...



(formerly ST-512)
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: packersfan on December 19, 2008, 10:29:10 pm
I know that you can play House of the Rising Sun with Barre chord F, but what string would you play for the base note for the advanded (sorry for the spelling) strumming of the song? ??? ???
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: Ixion on December 21, 2008, 01:17:09 pm
Just an unprofessional observation on this so I'll apologise if this seems naff but if you barre F you are of course creating the option to hit a bass F an octave below that which you would play if using little F as you have probably figured. However, when listening to the song whilst playing the Barre'd F it doesn't seem to quite work, as the song needs to pitch up (if thats the right expression!) on that chord. So my personal preference would be to abandon the Barre'd F and play little F at that point.
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: Andy28 on January 07, 2009, 04:40:40 pm
Having listened to this (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg7jzi9JAkw) version I get the following chords rather than the version published in Justin's pdf. Anyone any thoughts?

Verse 1
         Am   C           D        F
There is a   house in New Orleans
        Am      C      E
They call the rising sun
           Am         C        D               F
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
      Am    E           Am    C D F
And God I know I’m one

Am E Am E

Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: MichelleM on April 12, 2009, 06:59:50 pm
Yes, I agree with your revised version - I've just been trying to work it out.  You need to work out the intro and the bits between too.  All the right notes, but not necessarily in that order...  pdf's seem to be just a rough guide.  I think it's tough for beginning, but guess it makes us listen real closely to the track.

Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: royp on May 02, 2009, 02:46:14 pm
pdf's seem to be just a rough guide. 

I think Justin is presenting a beginners' version, and you can play the extra chords you have found, but it will work without them too. I also agree about the barre F not really working well, as said above.

If you get as far as finding better ways to play it then that is great that you can work that out and play more complicated versions.

Another thing I found is that if I play up, down, up, picks instead of up, up ,up on the three thinnest strings, as shown at 4:04 of the video, then it sounds better.

Edit: One thing I would point out is that there are two E's at "sun", not one as written above.
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: royp on May 02, 2009, 05:26:38 pm
In the video, what does Justin mean by "3 feel" and "fingerpicking in 3/4" ?

The song sounds like it is in 6/8, or maybe 12/8.

I have this song in a very old song book. In there it is in 4/4, which I think is wrong. It is also in D minor in my book, which is not the key the Animals are playing it in. Song books huh? So many song books get it wrong. This one does credit the arrangement to Alan Price though.

For the part where I substitute up, down, up picks for up, up, up there is a close up at around 5:30 to 6:00 ish of the video. The up, up, up is probably best for beginners but the up, down, up sounds good.
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: Jennings on May 30, 2009, 08:58:15 am
For the 3 upstrokes, do you guys rake over the strings or up-pick each individually?

Cheers,

Jennings
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: royp on May 31, 2009, 11:16:15 am
For the 3 upstrokes, do you guys rake over the strings or up-pick each individually?

I would not call what I do a rake exactly, but when I do 3 upstrokes they are not really separate actions either. Somewhere between a true rake and individual picking, but closer to a rake, is what I use. You could try a rake at first, and then slow it down until it sounds good. I do find that my picking hand does some good sounding things which I don't entirely intend, I just go with the flow.

Justin does say that it is not exactly a rake he is using to play the arpeggios, if I remember right. Don't have time to watch his video lesson all the way through again just now.
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: close2u on October 14, 2009, 11:12:35 am
here's a start to moving it back on topic ...

here is my wife's grandson (age 12) playing The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)

I taught him everything he knows !!   ;)   ;)   :D  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9rzBKCMmV4
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: myBonnie on November 16, 2009, 09:18:32 am
hey guys, a forum approved question ;D

1.I really like the led zeppelin version, so i'm wondering did he use a pick to play that song?
2. I would luv to finger pick that song too, but when i use my fingers the sounds r not very clear and not as loud. hmmm.
3. I also worry that if i don't practice picking with a pick(which i don't really like) then i won't be able to do good solo once i get an electric... so should i just practice with a pick  ???
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: Bootstrap on November 16, 2009, 11:00:11 am
Bonnie you can play it both ways - with or without a pick - or strum it - really just comes down to versatility of your skills and playing it how you want to hear it on a particular day.

Um Close2U that kid has a very deep voice for a 12 year old  ;D
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: licksnkicks on June 21, 2010, 05:09:45 am
I really need a reply even though no one has been here for 120 days.  I'm getting mixed messages about what BPM this should be.  When I go to Youboob it's around 85  with my foot tapping and then I see it on the web at different BPM.  What is the BPM of this song?

Licksnkicks
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: PJMCM on June 21, 2010, 07:34:23 am
Licks,
From what I can find on Google, it would appear to be 80bpm. I'd say that's about right.

Peter
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: johnny fontaine on May 12, 2011, 12:35:01 pm
Can you point out on the web site where the song tab is for the house of the rising sun please
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: licksnkicks on May 12, 2011, 11:21:31 pm
Hey Johnny just watch this Siggi Mertens House of the rising sun tutorial.  It's played in the classical format.  The chords are really easy, just watch Siggi.  You don't need tabs just watch and learn. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIms5fPCBhc

There's a myriad of different tutorials on YT for this.  I have a tendency to watch Siggi though because he's been around the block more than once. I guess I'm prejudice because I really like Siggi's tutorials a lot. 
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: de_conne on March 03, 2014, 09:06:07 am
I've got a question regarding this song ...

I'm learning this song atm, using a Barre F chord (to get used to the Barre F).
Now I find that I like playing this song with the 'Old Faithfull' strumming pattern (DDUUD).

It sounds and feels good. But I don't get it, since this song is in 6/8?

How comes this works? I can actually also sing to it without noticing something wrong ...
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: Drubbing on March 03, 2014, 01:28:12 pm
Strum patterns aren't necessarily fixed to time signatures.
Title: Re: ST-512 • The House Of The Rising Sun (The Animals)
Post by: TB-AV on March 03, 2014, 03:53:39 pm
First down strum 1&

Then 2&3&  is a triplet ( three notes in two beats )

Then 4&5&6&

Actual notes 1   123   1 2 3

I think I strum it DDUUDU  but I rake that triplet section too.
Title: Re: BS-610 • House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals
Post by: jellybee on August 25, 2017, 01:41:02 am
Hello,

Sorry for digging this up again, but in the video, Justin didn't mention the rhythm for the rake strum.
So, I get a little trouble counting the beats. ???
Does the 4th beat still fall at the thinnest string or is it the 3rd beat ? :-\
Thank you all, for your help.
Title: Re: BS-610 • House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals
Post by: bigbl5 on August 25, 2017, 01:29:25 pm
Hello,

Sorry for digging this up again, but in the video, Justin didn't mention the rhythm for the rake strum.
So, I get a little trouble counting the beats. ???
Does the 4th beat still fall at the thinnest string or is it the 3rd beat ? :-\
Thank you all, for your help.

Actually he does tell you its on beat 4.  Watch the video starting around 7:45.  He says the easiest way to do it is "in time."  So: "1 (bass note), 2 and 3 (rake), 4 (1st string "thinnest"), 5 (second string), 6 (third string)."  Don't forget on the D and F you will need to play the bass string twice.   Also, the E does throw the timing off a little, but you need to compensate with that by doing the rake a hair faster, so the 1st string is always on beat 4.
Title: Re: BS-610 • House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals
Post by: jellybee on August 25, 2017, 02:24:18 pm
Actually he does tell you its on beat 4.  Watch the video starting around 7:45.  He says the easiest way to do it is "in time."  So: "1 (bass note), 2 and 3 (rake), 4 (1st string "thinnest"), 5 (second string), 6 (third string)."  Don't forget on the D and F you will need to play the bass string twice.   Also, the E does throw the timing off a little, but you need to compensate with that by doing the rake a hair faster, so the 1st string is always on beat 4.

Oh, I see. So, now to play like in the record, when I do the rake strum, I need to also hit the bass string as well.

Thanks for clearing things out for me.
Title: Re: BS-610 • House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals
Post by: mbmert on December 24, 2017, 08:46:06 am
Actually he does tell you its on beat 4.  Watch the video starting around 7:45.  He says the easiest way to do it is "in time."  So: "1 (bass note), 2 and 3 (rake), 4 (1st string "thinnest"), 5 (second string), 6 (third string)."  Don't forget on the D and F you will need to play the bass string twice.   Also, the E does throw the timing off a little, but you need to compensate with that by doing the rake a hair faster, so the 1st string is always on beat 4.

Okay then, what is the timing for the "reality". I mean racking part. As I understand:
1: Root
2-3: Strum
4: e
5: b
6: g

But when I rack the strings, I can't fill "2&3&". It sounds like I'm strumming on 2&3, but I leave it empty at last '&'. I got the timing on individual picking(the part justin shows before the recording style part), but I can't rack on time. Could it be because I'm playing it on slow tempo(50/60 for 6/8, so 100-120 for 3/4), so I don't get the "feel"? Because, when I don't put metronome, I can play it by feel, but still I'm feeling that I'm playing like 5,5/8 time signature.

Can someone suggest me something? I hope someone reads that part of the part, I don't want to ask it on general questions...
Title: Re: BS-610 • House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals
Post by: close2u on December 24, 2017, 08:51:53 am
@mbmert
If you got the he 'feel' then play along to the original song, even if it's a slowed version at first.