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BS-024 • Hold Back The River - James Bay
« on: June 30, 2010, 06:21:11 pm »
« Last Edit: January 21, 2016, 09:48:34 pm by Indigo »
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 06:01:51 pm »
Got a question about the rythym in the intro at bar 7 and 8:

Bar 7
0-x-x 
x-x-x
x-x-x
x-x-x
x-x-x
7-5/0-0

1-2/3-4  (What I assume to be counted)

Then you continue with
x-x-x
0-0-x
x-x-x
5-5-x
5-x-5 ....

1-2-3-4+-5+-6  (What you count for that lick)

I count figure out where beat  5 and 6 of the bar before are ?  I hope I could explain it more or less.
Any help appreciated...


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Re: ST-626 • Harvest (Neil Young)
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2010, 08:14:17 pm »
Don't know if that helps anyone, but if you follow his first instruction in the vid (which is more simple than the right hand close-up), he misses beat number four in the instrumental section (after the click) and picks an additional note in the melody strings at beat one (at least as far as I can tell). On beat two it seems to be a single string he's picking. It works for me to lift the barré finger in the Bm chord to pick the thinnest string on beat two.

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 03:20:27 pm »
Got a question about the rythym in the intro at bar 7 and 8:


Hey here is what I worked it out to be. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but it sounds close based on a live performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAsA00-5KoI

I think bar 8 only has 3 beats which confuses me but here is what I worked out as the rythem.

bar 7    1 2 3 4 5e& 6     bar 8  1 2 3   bar 9 is what he shows in the video starts with A as the base note
            ----7-8-787 5              7-5-0
           -----0-0-------              0-----
           --0-------------             -------
           -----------------            -------
           -----------------            -------
           0----------------           --------

Sorry if that comes off unclear

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Re: ST-626 • Harvest (Neil Young)
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 08:06:19 am »
Hi Justin (and others),
Thanks for this lesson. I have another request for some help with the instrumental. I'm having trouble keeping the strumming rhythm going while picking the individual notes. Also, what is that version of B minor you’re doing during the instrumental? Any help from Justin or any readers appreciated.

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Re: ST-626 • Harvest (Neil Young)
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2010, 10:49:39 pm »
I agree that this song is not that easy as it looks at first sight.

For the instrumental part check out the Mini Sweep Picking lesson

http://justinguitar.com/en/RO-004-MiniSweepPickingArpeggios.php

This may help. The melody of the instrumental part is quiet easy cause its all in or near the chords using the e ad b string.

For keeping the rhythm you´ve got to practice the pattern that justins shows in the beginning of the lesson over and over and then again ;-)

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Re: ST-626 • Harvest (Neil Young)
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2010, 11:30:29 pm »
Thanks Erim!
That's uplifting that I'm not the only one who finds the song a bit challenging. You've handled it very well, thought :)
I've just had a quick look on that Justin's lessons and I'm not sure yet how to put it to instrumental part of Harvest but I'll try to find it out.


For keeping the rhythm you´ve got to practice the pattern that justins shows in the beginning of the lesson over and over and then again ;-)

I've been aleady practicing it over and over ...and then again and still struggling a lot of with. Maybe in additional few hundreds of "over agains" I'll finally get some smoothness with it (hopefully :))
« Last Edit: June 02, 2011, 07:55:12 am by close2u »
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Re: ST-626 • Harvest (Neil Young)
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 11:07:52 pm »
OK... I've already looked at minisweep picking more carefully, even practiced it a bit, and still I'm not sure how to translate it into instrumental part of the Harvest.

I think I've managed to get sound quite close to how it should be in the case of two, or maybe three first chords (which doesn't seem to have much in common with Justin's minisweep picking lesson):
                                                  
E --------2h3p2---------------------------------------------------
B --------3--------------------2h3p2------------0h2p0------------
G --------2--------------------2------------ ----------------------
D------- -0--------------------2----------------------------------
A------------------------------0----------------------------------
E-------------------------------------------- ---0-----------------

but still I have a problem with the rest of the instrumental part.

HELP!
« Last Edit: June 02, 2011, 07:55:40 am by close2u »
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Re: ST-626 • Harvest (Neil Young)
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2010, 07:39:28 pm »
I tried to do a video to explain it, but after I watched it i wasn´t able to play the tune anymore. I´m no teaching guy. sry

LOL. ...Now seriously, I'd love to see this video. I'm sure it can't be so bad, just maybe you haven't kept distance to it yet and take it to subjectively.

Being honest, I'm close to give up with this song. Not because of the instrumental finger picking part, which I believe I finally would manage to learn, but because of the strumming part. I can even keep the tempo but no matter how much I try, my playing is very messy, especially when comes to hitting appropriate base note.
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Re: ST-626 • Harvest (Neil Young)
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2010, 04:52:40 pm »
Hi guys,

I was wondering if someone could help me with muting bits. I can't get it right. You're suppose to mute on the down is that it?

Cheers,

Mor

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Re: ST-626 • Harvest (Neil Young)
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 05:51:33 am »
@ Moriador

My understanding is when you down stroke it's not a complete mute.  Your slamming the side of your wrist into the top most strings to add a beat
and partial mute.  The strings still sound though.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2011, 07:56:50 am by close2u »

 

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