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Re: JA-032 • Secondary Dominants
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 05:29:51 pm »
i've red this quickly and i was just wondering :
is there a link between this lesson and the chords progression from "hey joe" (c, g, d, a, e) ?

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Re: JA-032 • Secondary Dominants
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2012, 04:15:26 pm »
i've red this quickly and i was just wondering :
is there a link between this lesson and the chords progression from "hey joe" (c, g, d, a, e) ?
Well if the song was in the Key of C yeah you could fashion a thought there but I think most would think No is the answer here.
Maybe the Video clip will clear this up.
If you play the circle of 5th forward sound like Hey Joe you play it backward well it sound like many songs ;D
C 2 G is a 5th
G 2 C is a fourth but the same distance apart

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Re: JA-032 • Secondary Dominants
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2014, 06:09:35 pm »
Hi everyone, I'm a new member. I've found really practical this site and lessons, Justin is an awesome teacher. In this particular lesson, Justin takes the I-V/IV-IV and then he resolves that to IV minor. I've seen that so many times and still wondering not only why, but if I could take that major to minor in every chord, or just when I go to the IVth one... And I've also seen that change using extended dominant chords.

Example: C-7 F7 F-7 Bb7 Bb-7 Eb7.

Can anyone explain that particular change and usage please?

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Re: JA-032 • Secondary Dominants
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2014, 12:52:27 pm »
Example: C-7 F7 F-7 Bb7 Bb-7 Eb7.
Can anyone explain that particular change and usage please?

Welcome Pod,

Nothing to do with secondary dominates.  The F-7 is being used as a substitute for a Bb7.  The chords are closely related.
F-7 = Bb D F Ab
Bb7 = F Ab C Eb

Likewise, the Bb-7 is being used as a sub for Eb7.
Bb-7 = Bb Db F Ab
Eb7 = Eb G Bb Db

You'll see minor 6's and minor 7's used as subs in this way.
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