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Offline stitch101

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Re: E minor pentatonic question?
« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2012, 10:06:47 pm »
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but doesn't it still have to be figured out where the rest of the notes are

Hefty this is what the CAGED system teaches. Look at this diagram place the R on the 8th fret, this is the C major scale in the E shape of the CAGED system
can you see the C major barre chord in the diagram and can you see the E major shape? Now place the R on the 6th fret this is the A major scale and so on.


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Re: E minor pentatonic question?
« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2012, 11:43:33 pm »
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but doesn't it still have to be figured out where the rest of the notes are -obviously one can figure them out- but is it practical to do that, or is it something that becomes easier and easier with practice?

rest of notes? Yes
practical? Yes
Easier with time? Yes

The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.

You have to learn the numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. also known as.....

1 = Root = Tonic
2 = Second
3 = Third
4 = Fourth
5 = Fifth
6 = Sixth
7 = Seventh

If you know this......

A Major Scale is comprised of a specific array.

You pick a place to start. We will use C. The next note 2 is a whole step away or two frets. That's not hard to find is it?

OK, so far you now know where the 1 and 2 are.

The 3 is two frets from the 2 or another whole step. Certainly you can also remember that. 1 skip 2 skip 3.

But if you will learn the numbers 1 3 5 which are contained in EVERY major triad in the CAGED Shapes. It's a LOT EASIER to locate the other notes.  All you need to remember is that they run like this....

71   sit right next to each other. 34 sit next to each other. No frets in between. If fret 3 is a 7 then fret 4 is a 1. If fret 10 is determined to be a 4 then fret 9 is a 3.  ALWAYS 3|4    and 7|1

All the others look like this.   4| - |5| - |6| - |7|1| - |2| - |3|4| - |5 |  etc....

Just think about that for a minute. If you learn your chord shape, which you have to do if you actually plan on playing the guitar, AND you simply recognize which notes are the 1s. 3s. 5s    ..... all those other notes are just a fret or so away. It's really not that hard to do.


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Re: E minor pentatonic question?
« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2012, 02:34:47 pm »
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but doesn't it still have to be figured out where the rest of the notes are -obviously one can figure them out- but is it practical to do that, or is it something that becomes easier and easier with practice?

rest of notes? Yes
practical? Yes
Easier with time? Yes

The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.
The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale. The Major Scale.

You have to learn the numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. also known as.....

1 = Root = Tonic
2 = Second
3 = Third
4 = Fourth
5 = Fifth
6 = Sixth
7 = Seventh

If you know this......

A Major Scale is comprised of a specific array.

This array get easy to see with chords, by playing the major scale with chords you still get the interval training , and it would seem it is easy to but the numbers to the note after you put it to the chord.
 
This is hard stuff for a beginner but once you learn to play this scale with simple triads and full chords you will still get it's sound in your ears or head.
When it there you will be able to hear it inside your mind, sing it at will, this takes 2 weeks to 6 months playing with chords.

Really works not a jedi mind trick.

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Re: E minor pentatonic question?
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2012, 02:53:00 pm »
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This array get easy to see with chords, by playing the major scale with chords you still get the interval training , and it would seem it is easy to but the numbers to the note after you put it to the chord.

Good point.

If you learn the CAGED shapes and the 1s 3s 5s located in those Major triads then when you play more advanced chords such as 7ths or sus chords, even minors. You will come to realize the various tones you are altering and by default you are fortifying your knowledge of where the steps sits.

If you decide to play a 9th chord and rather than simply looking up a chart of dots and placing your fingers there, you should figure what scale steps are involved. Especially figure which note is the 9 note. You will find it is always sits halfway between the Root and Major 3 ( 1 and 3 ).

So yes, if your learn CAGED, The Major Scale and then different chords, you automatically learn all your scale steps.

UNLESS, all you do is play "DOTS".





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Re: E minor pentatonic question?
« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2012, 03:20:34 pm »
This array get easy to see with chords, by playing the major scale with chords you still get the interval training , and it would seem it is easier to Put the numbers to the notes after you put These Numbers to the chords of a scale.
Try the key of G and just play D as the 5 and the 7 chord, the F# contained in the D is still going to pull towards G the root.
Sorry for all the typos.

This pull with the 5 and 7 is a strong Force and its is also what allow me to get the key of a song.must have 5 chord.
Again not trying to even sound Jedi , but this force is string, you can play G and C  am em all the live long day it is the D that will tell you hey know we are moving, if you play a D7 the pull to G is stronger.